hey Yuck, wasn't Ms. Max one of those who also aided the leaders of Freddie and Fanny?

Of course they won't. Pelosi's promise of cleaning up corruption was a blatent lie. They spent more than Bush did in 2 years than Bush spent in 8. That's no lie. Rangel who cheated on his taxes, is in the position to create tax laws. GO FIGURE. Then they wait until after the election to investigate the ethics charges. They did the same with the tax cuts. These liberals are NOT looking out for the best interests of the people. They allow corruption and criminal activity. There has been no accountability in the housing meltdown. The candidate in California who is opposing Meg Whitman, called her a "whore." They also harrass her about hiring an illegal immigrant as a nanny. For one thing the nanny was FIRED for it well before this campaign. She was probably a great worker! But it was the law. Now maybe that law should be changed because I don't care if someone is a nanny. A 16year old can be a nanny and I wouldn't care if anyone paid taxes. Unless there were over 5 employees. This is like mowing someones lawn or shoveling snow. Give it a break. Not to mention that it is illegal to inquire about immigration status. If they have their documents, which MEG WHITMAN had, then they can't dig deeper.

No need to rush Rangel's hearing. He's going to be around for at least 2 more years, since the fine, brilliant folks in Harlem are going to re-elect him.

They also look for the possibility that Waters and Rangle will be out of office by then so won't have to worry about it. Any one know if the these hearings have any authority over those voted out of office before the hearings happen?

Yes, they carry the full force of law and can lead to a federal indictment as well as jail time. William Jefferson was tried and censured after he was voted out of office for taking bribes.

Neither Maxine Waters nor Charlie Rangel have anything to fear with respect to being voted out of office, they are both in safe Democrat districts.

However, I think both Democrats and Republicans, along with some aides, are on the Congressional Ethics Committee's investigation list. There are approximately 30 Congressional Representatives, in addition to an undisclosed number of aides, on that list which will not be released by the Ethics Committee.

Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/29/AR2009102904597.html

I find it amazing that the Speaker of the House has not pushed for the investigations to be completed more swiftly, so she can live up to her statement: "It is time to clean the Swamp".

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I find it amazing that the Speaker of the House has not pushed for the investigations to be completed more swiftly, so she can live up to her statement: "It is time to clean the Swamp".

The Democrats are not the only swamp dwellers on Capitol Hill.

They may not be but they have a commanding lead at this point And I don't know how you can defend them when they have shown that they don't feel any law applies to them.

The fact that Rangel has 4 rent controlled apartments are bit of a problem. Each year he has to sign a sworn statement that each is his primary residence. How can that be? If he signed such a statement, he is guilty of more than just ethics charges. He is guilty of perjury. So, he can be prosecuted in NY if he loses his bid for re-election.

I'm curious that if they do indeed lose their respective elections and are found to be at fault by their peers, will they still have to make restitution?

WOuld be neat if Rangle could be charged in court since he did break the law as well as perjured himself but then the left ( and in some cases the right too) has already a history of ignoring perjury ( look at Clinton) . Would not be surprised if the ethics stuff went away completely if these two are re-elected

Dragonchef, that would be up to the New York AG Cumo who happens to be running for the governors seat and is too busy to take on lawbreakers, despite his protestations that he goes after both parties equally.

It has happened before. Clinton was found guilty of perjury while in office. In a hearing after he left office, he was again found guilty and forced to surrender his law license. I don't see the democrat controlled state of NY going after him, and Bloomberg, the mayor of New York city and primary jurisdiction of the offense, is nothing more than a democrat puppet.

Come on. The democrats are generating their own bad publicity. As for Rangel and Waters, their hearings should be held before the election.

Rangel used office stamps and office paper for personal use, How unethical!

I believe in the private sector that is considered stealing and employees can and are fired for doing just that. So, you think its ok to use company assets for personal use. Go ask your boss what he thinks about that. I have had to fire employees in the past for stealing office supplies. But I guess since Rangels office supplies are supplied and paid for by our tax money, you're fine with him doing that. I mean after all, he needed it and couldn't afford to buy his own!

Jose Von Hussein: You paint a bitter picture...you have anything you can point to as proof of what you write, or is this just some more Progressive wishing it were so? Back up what you say with proof or keep your pie hole closed...you'll be catching flies like BHO does! Okay, waiting for your proof! BTW, Jose...are you in this country legally? Got a valid social security; valid drivers license, valid birth certificate?

Oh please. Do you really think that based on what you have witnessed in the last years that you can actually make any argument that the corruption in Washington is partisan. Go ahead make meaningless smart remarks without substance the politicians who feel entitled to jobs and corrupt practices are counting on you to be clever and take sides. Think or they win and you lose. Be serious and help serious people take control or you will be rioting in the streets being manipulated by th elites within the year.

FireAntMan - the proof is in the article above: The Democrats WILL be holding hearings. Please name ONE ethics hearing the Republicans held...? None? That's what I thought!

Nice try, but you and Jerry both lose on this point - the Dem's said they would "Drain the swamp" and guess what? They had investigations, they're going to have hearings. What did the Republicans do when they were in charge of the swamp, hmmm? NOTHING!

Pretty easy to see who's a tad better at this. Perfect? Hell no! Better than you other guys? YOU BETCHA!!

Could be the Republicans don't rush to hearings because those of the GOP caught are usually pilloried in the press and resign before it gets to possible hearings- with Rangle and Waters blatant ( at least for sure with Rangle ) perjury and ego and lack of real in depth media coverage make a mockery of the ethics charges- in the real world you can bet most accused of this kind of "crime would be suspended without pay till cleared or convicted

Are you talking about people like Ensign or Vitter resigning, Dragonchef? Face it, Republicans try to cover things up and act all innocent when they are just as, if not more so, dirty than those they accuse. Think: Watergate.

I agree Beth. By doing this now, it shows major differences in how the dems and repubs do things. Its a hard choice, I'm sure. But these hearings need to happen. It will benefit dems in the long run.

No, it will benefit everyone...that is, everyone thats opposed to this Dem led failure of an administration....

Bob, I partially agree with you. You dems and repubs keep trading power back and forth with seemingly one goal: screwing up the country worse than the last guys did. Well, it will be the repubs' turn next; I'm sure you guys will keep the trend going.

Your wrong Kirby, I say Rangel is guilty as charged, But I also think we would be hard pressed to find an office worker who has NOT used office stamps and stationary. Maybe we need automatic death penalties for driving away from the bank with their ink pen??

Now Waters,,,,,,,by all real info, She is totally innocent

Almost as silly as having a ethics hearing when Clinton got a blowjob from a grown woman with charges brought on by Republicans who now all have convictions for homosexual pedophilia

Walters was not innocent as you claim. She did aid her husband with his banking empire, and at the request of Barney Frank not to interfear.

and while I am not a clinton fan, you have to admit, he did define considerations for having sex. I'm certain that admission aided others in their lives. Heck, it may even have helped those homo Repubs you talk about.

Go Billy bob, I sure do miss those days of drinking in the capital.

13 Charges against Rangel, its not just for licking Stamps there Mo. we understand that your whole life depends on Spinning. RANGEL and WATERS are CRooks..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38466499/

And BO.. Clinton was Impeached for Lying to a Grand Jury.. Not for turning the Oval office into the Oral Office

Rangel and Waters are both guilty. Both have used their positions to gain monetarily. Neither one of them will ever have to get food stamps or collect welfare though I wouldn't put it past ol' Charlie to try.

SO because these aren't sex crimes they should be given a pass? When did monetary crimes become legal- interesting outlook for the left that looks at everything being OK as long as they benefit

He should have been jailed for his part in the Twana Brally sorry if spelled wrong but Rangle and Sharpton were in the middle of that from the start) fiasco since it involved falsely accusing police of rape and that is perjury

And this compares to Rangle's ethics charges how? Rangle committed perjury, defrauded the state and prevented others from finding those rent controled apartments, that needed them while using them to add to his bank account as if doesn't get enough in his pay for being a wind bag, racist, do nothing Franks and Dodd backer

Done Again, Its not "Hope and Change" its COPE and CRINGE. WE THE

PEOPLE are doing that aren't we?

Innocent of what? Getting a blowjob from a grown woman is NOT a crime is it? Unlike the hundreds of Republicans who have been convicted of homosexual pedophilia (including the group that brought ethics charges against Clinton)

Again there Bo, He was Impeached for Lying under Oath to a Grand Jury,

and Bo. Please. List those 100s of Republicans that have been convicted of Homosexuality.. I will call you what you are. a Liar..

And the Clinton Squirt told all. Just ask Monicas cleaner.

Rangel "stole" about $1 worth of stamps and stationary, Republicans are spending millions to investigate it,,,,,,,,,,,,Which is the true crime?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38466499/

Bo. Still trying to Minimize what Rangel Actually did..

Bo, how would you know the value of anything he stole? Is he a relative of yours and has told you the sordid details? Did he tell you about having a homosexual dating service operating out of his apartment? Did he tell you it was his at the moment 'partner' who was doing it without his knowledge? Straighten us out on this stuff (13 charges) that he will be investigated for. We need to know your inside info so we can get everything straight!

What was I saying all the time? That the DINOsaurs are buried in the swamp. It needs to be drained.