you mean your not happy with newt, who they didnt even mention? I think there right as of today sarah is the front runner.

limbaugher

I can smell you from here.

When I asked for the name of a competent Republican candidate someone mentioned Mickey and Pluto. They forget that when the Democrats handed Mickey and Pluto a SURPLUS eight years ago they turned it into the biggest deficit ever. At the same time they gave this country a cancer that our competent President has finally stopped the growth of. Now you're mad that the country can't run a marathon yet. Give us two to six more years and we'll be in great shape.

Yeah in 2 to 6 more years we will be called the Divided States Of America

w

When we're we ever united in beliefs. Civil war? The fifties? The sixties? Any decade before or after. We're a two party system that pays billions of dollars to stay divided. Vote for the best person for the job, as we did in 2008. You won't agree with everything they do, but you can find comfort in the thought that the less competent person would probably have done worse.

melb33 is delusional and even wrong about dates. Only a fool believes that the ending Bush deficit of hundreds of billions was higher than BHO's three trillion. ( or does not know what a trillion is). "Eight years ago" was 2002, not the year Bush came into office. Also, the Democrat congress was in power for six of Bush's years and they are the only ones that can spend the money. If you must sound off, please read up on your delusions first so you will not prove your stupidity. O.K.? Example; those who cry about the defense budget do not look at the fact that over 100% was added to the last one as earmarks for vote buying by the "honest" liberals.

Mickey

I wasn't talking about you when I used the Mickey and Pluto comment. I was going to change that "eight years ago" thing but I figured that no intelligent adult would gloss over the substance of the comment to nitpick. Either I was mistaken or you are not an intelligent adult. The substance of the comment was that Bush was handed a surplus and a strong employment situation and he and the others in power at that time turned it into a major deficit and gave the country cancer. It takes money to cure stop the growth of cancer. It takes time to gain strength after the cancer growth has stopped. You must admit that the hundreds of billions of dollars used fight then fix Iraq was not wisely spent. Two to six more years and we'll be fine. Deep down you know the Dems in the white house will get at least that much. Maybe more! By the way some people prove thier stupidity by jumping from subject to subject without addressing the facts and opinions that are in thier face. Also before using vague terms like liberal and Democrat congress shows a lot of stupidity or just plain ignorance. Congress has always been made up of Democrats and Republicans.

Is 33 your IQ? With all the drivel you spout it sure looks like it. You're both wrong! There is no way back from this precipice. The U.S. is going OVER & DOWN!

we care more about the tax cuts, we hate government and if it goes broke and fails like it is so what, shut down all the socialist give away programs and you will have tons of money to fix roads etc. until all welfare,unemployment ,healthcare medicare,medicaid,food stamps are ended we will always be running defeceits, rewarding losers and failures is a recipe for failure, end these programs and everyone would have a much higher pay check and the economy will boom-end public schools too-too exspensive and dont work-teach your kid yourself-can do much better than some lib union loafer teacher!! worked fro me-vote tea party were takin america back!!

Your trickle-down corporatist mentality does NOT work. This country has tried it and it fails miserably EVERY single time. Epic Fail. And I'm not sure what is there to "take back"? Are you taking it from yourself? I'm not sure what you all mean by 'taking your country back'... taking it back to the 18th century? I wasn't aware we ever lost our country. My country too. So don't know what you are talking about exactly.

and you're surprised over that. Quite frankly, this administration doesn't give a crap about anything other than their Progressive ie Communist "movement". It was a "movement" way before Obama was in the spot light. It was a movement when he was 'organizer' and then Senator. This guy and his co-horts is all about trucking our country down the proverbial global governance road. No doubt about it. And, if people vote the Dems in next year you can be assured that Cap & Tax will pass. Obama wants this country broken and dependent upon BIG government and he's well on the way to doing that.

at lease we aren't pathological liars...like the Progressives..

Took over the car companies and told the Bond holders to go screw themselfs.. you said one how many more you want wise guy ??

geezee pete: Carl is correct on the auto companies, how about bank regulations, how about Health Care Reform, how about controlling the student loans........................all of these programs have nothing to do with helping the people they are all about CONTROL! Break the country financially and you have TOTAL CONTROL of the people! And that's what is exactly happening here.

forcing people into health care is communist period!!

LOL I have many many more just ask bayllie

Carl, anne, and limb. I really suggest you three look up the definition of communist/ism. I am shocked you all believe the stuff that comes out of your mouth. Sadly, the three of you need to go back to school.

MD: I don't give a crap if you want to call is Socialism, Communism, Marxism or any other "ISM" you can think of. It is NOT America!!!! And we need to stifle it NOW!!!

Let me get this right genius, when the Government takes over ownership of privately owned company and declares the Bond holders insolvent its called Capitalism ?? your the idiot...is this what they teach you in school today..Its Communism, socialism, socialist, Marxist, Chavez ism what ever you want to call it, but one thing it is...Un American...

its always nice to have you left coast guys watching over our Republic for us...

Dictionary ..Marxist version of Communist...overthrow of Capitalism

MD California: Shameful, isn't it? These poor people use terms that they have no understanding of and think are interchangeable, and say things like "it is not America" when we have a legally elected President doing what he said he would do. What is NOT American is the poor "teabaggers" constantly trying to overturn elections when they don't go the way they want them to. What is even funnier is that they have NO idea that the people that they support have no interest in middle class America, but are determined to rape this country for anything they can get.

newday your changing the subject to the tea baggers.. lets change it to why aren't the wonderful people of your party running on Obama Care if that's what he was elected on, why are they running from him and the Health Care bill if it was so great...Why are we excluding Companies like McDonald's. or the Louisiana Purchase, or the Nebraska Screw up..

rape the country.. how stupid are you college boy.. the Progressives are the ones changing America....Social Policies...... where in our constitution does it mention entitlements..... where?..... 46 percent of the citizens take and don't contribute.. Im looking at a copy.. tell me where.. you guys crap all over what built this Nation, and the cows are coming home Nov 2nd...hope your ready...

Carl, that may be one of the silliest things I have read. President Obama DID run on Health Care. Did you not listen to the debates?

Carl: A bail out does not equate to full ownership. Full ownership of a private company would mean that the government would seize all the property and all the stakes-- which it did not-- and the government has NO interest in doing so either. Owing money to the government is very different than the government owning the company outright. The same holds true when the government is only partial owner-- the remainder of the stakeholders are not insolvent-- they just don't have as much priority-- or for that matter, hold most of the stakes. In addition, I'm certain you don't know about the Government ownership exit plan or how a joint-venture occurred between the American car company and China car company. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure you have never owned stocks in a company and therefore, teaching you anything about how that works is well, a waste of time.

You also forget why all this happened too-- how convenient, on your part. And TARP was enacted by BUSH, not Obama. Obama had no choice but to follow through with the awful bill. If it were up to me, I would have allowed all those companies to go belly up. The sad part of your rant is that you have no clue that the percentage of corporate and business assets nationalized by the U.S. government is at 0.21%. That means the Corporations and business assets not held by U.S. government is 99.79%. So, by your definition, do you still believe we are living in communist times?

Please research your information more carefully.

Ann: You're a waste of time. Go do something useful.

She's a candidate for anything that gets her butt noticed!

You guys are hilarious, how quick you forget "Bush" he's been gone two years and your still whining about him

Guys Feisty is busy washing her hair, I don't believe she's a natural red head

George You can't be serious about the voters of this country not being given all the facts, even if you don't agree with those facts. We should get info and facts from all the media including all television, papers, periodicals and radio. Not one entity has all the facts that is why we need to reviewing everything so one can make the right choice.

sorry wgn but face it you dems are stuck with the loser obama to run in 2012 and everyone knows whoever runs against him is a landslide winner.

I am not sure that the conservatives have any candidates at this point in time that could go toe to toe with Obama. He would certainly present facts and quotes and whoever the conservatives put up against him better be ready.

I think there all buzzed all the time, couldn't be sober and do the goofy things they do. Most who vote for them are dopers too,no one could vote for them with a clear mind.

limpbag

You didn't address my last reply. I guess what you're saying is that the Palin/Whoever ticket will win big in 2012. Gutsy call. Except that she would not win the Republican nomination. C'mon let's debate like grown-ups. This post sounds pretty childish.

Mel, are you serious debate like adults this post sounds pretty childish as you start with limpbag please!

Dub

My posts ask intelligent questions and make intelligent comments. I simply start with an anecdote to get your attention. It's amazing that the most rational posts tend to get the least attention. Please address my reply to you from above.

Mel, what you said does have some merit, but the Dem party has drifted a ways from where they once were . Kennedy once said ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country that no longer seems to be the Dem view. 9/11 did unite the country we have to get back to common goals. We are no longer Americans we are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans there's nothing wrong with culture, but our goal here should be to be an American

wlee

The thought that we were ever a united nation is a myth. We were always African Americans (I prefer Black), Mexican American, etc. it's just that those Americans had no voice until America grew up a little. We are still a relatively young nation. I think that what we are going through now can best be described as growing pains. We are a greater nation now than we ever were. People always look back at the "good old days" . The "good old days" are a lie. Yes things seemed better when Mom and Dad shaded the truth from us, but as adults, we can't keep hiding from the truth. I believe that Obama/Biden was the better choice in 2008 now we just have to help our President do the good that many of us believe is in him. The times of our childhood will never come back, and if they did, as adults, we'd notice that they weren't good or bad. They were just the old times.

You'll come to wish those "good old days" were back before long. Where we're now headed, whoever is in government, is for the sick bay then the graveyard. All this talk about Clinton & Bush as if either of them ran the country. Obama's just another "puppet" in the never-ending line of scapegoats. There are very much more powerful people than these controlling your destiny and you can forget about a return to the good times of whatever generation you care to name.

Mel, I respectfully have to disagree where I grew up people worked and played together crime was lower and drugs were hard to find, yeah it wasn't perfect but it never will be. I do agree that we are experiencing gowing pains but it seems we are growing further apart. What we need is a party that brings us all together not divides us as the Repub and Dem parties do. Debate is good but when it gets to the point of she's a witch he's a commie it's gone to far

Sorry about the rant. Just needed to vent.

I saw a post about the evil health care bill. What is so evil about wanting decent health care at an affordable price?

It isn't affordable, add 30 million more who cant pay and it will be even less affordable.. duhhh

I didn't say it was. The rant was basically that anything to do with health care reform is doa due to both sides screaming instead of working together.

You didn't 'rant'; you spoke the truth and you're absolutely correct. None of us are experts but I would say for the majority of us we love this country and are trying desprately to do 'right' by it with our voting voice as that's the ONLY voice we have. We do know though that the Congress is made up of "checks-and-balances" and that we haven't had that since the end of 2006. Therefore, it only makes sense to vote the Reps in there to re-install the 'check-n'-balance' system. 'It truly is becoming a sad day for the United States. We as a nation have allowed our, yes OUR government to be taken over '...and you're correct on that aspect also. So it is our duty to VOTE and to VOTE as wisely as possible.

That is one of the problems. We can either vote for a bad republican candidate, or a bad democrat candidate. I pretty much ignore the independents because with a few exceptions, they either don't stand a chance, or are retreads from one of the other parties.

You are absolutely right though. We do need to vote. I was always taught it is your civic duty to vote. My mother is an immigrant to this country and she instilled in us that we must vote or take what we get.

Carl: the Health Care Reform bill is NOT a good bill and will economically break the country. The UK is now in the process of 'privatizing' their universal health care because of that very reason. If you haven't noticed, our current health insurance premiums are going up dramatically which stands to reason adding additional millions of people but take note that there remains 21 million that will not have coverage regardless. You do understand also that Health Care Insurance has never been an 'entitled right'? It's like car insurance, it's a 'purchased service'. Now within the HC bill also they've tucked in such great things as controlling the student loans, the business 1099s AND there are indeed 'dealth panels'. Donald Berwick is the head of Medicare..go read up on that scary type guy..an Obama pick (no surprise). So not only will this break the country financially, it will decrease the quality of health care.

I have relatives in UK who have nothing but good things to say about their system. A good share of the stories we hear about their system are just that. Stories. Is their system expensive? Yes. Would it work over here? Probably not.

I do think we need some serious health care reform in this country. I don't know what the answers are, but then again, neither do the republicans or the democrats.

I have had people rant at me about corporate taxes needing to go away because the stock holders and people getting paid are also paying taxes. I will say fine, but I have a few caveats to that:

1. Corporations have absolutely no say in anything to do with government.

2. Corporations receive no subsidies from said government.

3. Corporations still have to abide by the laws of the country.

There is a lot of talk about getting out of the way of business and we are a capitalistic country. I'm sorry, but where in the Constitution does it say this is a capitalist country? WE ARE A REPUBLIC!

Remember Franklin's comment: "We have a republic if we can keep it."

This is still the greatest experiment in government in history. Perhaps we should start working to keep it instead of kill it.

Finally someone who gets it Liberal American we are few , but with knowledge we can become many

wlee:

Knowledge is the issue here. We as a people are far too willing to accept being "dumb". Remember, ignorant people are much easier to rule and to force into slavery.

I really question comments about dismantling the department of education. I can't say that I know for a fact that someone has said it, but just the thought that this could be an idea is scary to say the least.

Education is the only hope this country has. Does our current education system have problems? Yes it does. Once again, should it be throw out because there's problems? No.

Liberal America. Maybe we should try to do what we the people want and not you the politician wants to do, or how about.. for the people, of the people, and by the people.. heres a new one" Majority " rules.. how about honoring the Constitution for a change..

Carl, I'm a big proponent of government "Of the people, by the people, and for the people." The point I would like to make is make sure who "the people" are. Just because your GOP, or democrat candidate for that matter says they will listen to you does not mean they actually are or have been. I tend to take the approach with a candidate, you have one term. If you don't do the job I want you to do, I will work to fire you too.

Believe it or not, I used to be a staunch republican. I feel the republican party abandoned me. I look at candidates and decide who will do the best job for me and that is how I vote. Unfortunately, for the past twenty eight years (the amount of time I've been able to vote, I've usually found I only have the lesser of two evils to vote for.

anni I was quoting Liberal sorry next time I will put it in quotation marks " "

Dear annirich: Would you do us all a favor and look up the definition of "check and balance"? It is very hard to take you seriously when you demonstrate that you have no clue what you are talking about.

newday:

Please don't attack annirich. I got the gist of what she was writing. The unfortunate thing is we all seem to have forgotten what "checks and balances" are. There are supposed to be three branches to government and they form the checks and balances. It is not supposed to be done by republicans or democrats.

Apparently, the founding fathers thought we would remain diligent in our actions to do what is best for the country instead of the party.

Sorry, Liberal, but the phrase "check and balance" has a specific meaning. Why is it important? Simply this, people like annirich constantly throw terms around that they have no understanding of. If poor anni begins to read about what she is posting, she may discover that she is wrong about more than definitions of terms. Words have meaning. Use them correctly.

newday:

That I will agree with. I just see far too much personal attack on these posts and it is as unproductive as what is being done in our nation's capital.

I get a little bent out of shape about misuse of terms myself.

Sorry.

Accepted, Liberal. I want to make sure you understand why I called out that particular post. It demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of our system of government. As I watch what goes on currently, I think that is a majority of the problem. People ASSUME what our government is, but they don't know. They use words like Marxist, Communist, and Socialist, think they are interchangeable and they are not. Worse, they think those words have something to do with our current President. If we don't ask people to define terms, and begin to read, we continue on this path.

Liberal American, your so right when you say the lesser of two evils it is truly disapointing, as far as the Angle comment I don't know what context she was speaking and if she had some other dept. to replace it with so its hard to make judgement

The government is corrupt. America is a capitalist society. Its days are numbered. Nothing & no one is going to halt the slide into chaos & bankruptcy. The principles of the founding fathers have been trodden underfoot giving rise to widespread corruption and fear. The time is coming when we must pay the piper and he won't want the greenback.

WOW.. your so COOL...Im impressed....are you voting for Harry ??

Ha-ha, spoken like a "true believer". Andrew Keen seems intent on blaming the "amateur" nature of blogging for any number of social ills. A hundred years ago they said the same thing about the automobile.

Somehow I sense he doth protest too much. Afterall, as a "professional" author - he is no doubt unnerved by the dwindling of newpaper, magazine, and book sales. And now, having his book selling for a little over $2 online - must be adding more fuel to his fire.

Incidently, my dear - not every blogger is an "amateur", nor is every amateur suffering from deep narcissistic tendencies. No offense intended, but, you do sound like a freshman college student who has just read her first textbook - and is now regurgitating its claims as gospel truth. Was that "snappy" enough for you?

I would like to laugh but as bad as obama is I wish bush was still our president, 2008 were really good times compared to now.

Limbaughger I want you to follow our current problems back to 2008 and find out why we are in this position. George found himself in deep trouble and couldn't find a way out so he tried to cover up the real bad till he could get out of office.

Lets see 9/11 two wars people who couldn't afford houses what do you think caused the economic problems

genius.. in 2007 he found himself being ruled by Teddy, Nancy and Harry and the Liberal Congress... how soon you for get..

Carl I didn't forget but you have the wrong rulers. As usual for conservatives..

and you'd rather have the self-professed "Bearded Marxist" in Chris Coons in Delaware? And that's a sure YES vote for Cap and Tax next year. I would think that the people of Delaware would be smarter than that!!!

Can we both agree neither candidate is very impressive, both your arguments are ridiculous one writing a story in college the other trying to impress a boy in her teenage days

So is JC going to make a run for the 2012 ticket? He may have a hard time explaining to voters his quote of give onto Caesar what is Caesar's. This sounds like he wants to raise taxes. Not a good stance for a Republican. I think both Romney and Huckabee will chew him up at the debates. He might make the VP slot, but not ready for prime time.

Given the attention span of most Americans, I am not sure anything carries over from 2010 to 2012. Realistically, one has to assume that if the GOP takes the house by a slight margin and the Senate is every so slightly (VP vote) held by the Democrats, this will make a large impact on how voters look at the prospective GOP hopefuls. No way can the GOP continue to block legislation and hope to gain ground in 2012.

Nancy doesn't require employment options, she and her husband are members of the "rich" class, owning businesses and a Napa vineyard that hires criminal workers from that southern nation across our border.

Hopefully the movement in the nation will continue through the mid-terms, but Obama and the media will then demonize the opposing party for continually to block the obama policies that drive the country forward.

Already the ObamaCare program isn't working. Oh, yes, it is the rich fat-cat insurance companies at fault for this. Or is it George Bush? Well, when your policies fail, blame it on others.

love those oil spill numbers from the White House. Reminds me of the studies on Global Warming.

safecracker,

what part of "ObamaCare" better known as health care reform is NOT working? Just saying it does not make it true. Provide some concrete evidence.

Hey Mic, you guys keep saying how the Repubs keep blocking things, how is that possible when the Dems had a super majority, you really need to think for yourself do you really think those Dem politicians care about you, same goes for the Repubs.

I never said that GOP blocked all legislation... you are generalizing. I would say that the House and Senate records may have more to say.

I realize that you may have a problem with the legislation that was passed, but I can tell you, that it does not amount to some socialist agenda as being told so many.

Mic C., ObieCare isn't going to work. Costs, which were to be reduced by $2500 on average, aren't going down - they are raising and the program isn't in force fully. What will happen when we are mandated?

If ObieCare is so good, why are 30 companies receiving a one year delay from the mandate?

From where do you think your doctor will come from when you must be on a program? We currently have a shortage of Dr.'s in the country, with many opting out of the med programs for cash only medical care.

How are companies going to be able to provide HC for their employees in the near future? Is this all a methodology to force the nation to single payer? It is my belief that ObieCare will take good care to a lower level with more costs and worse care.

But, go on line to read and attempt to understand the bill yourself. Don't be like your legislator who didn't read the bill prior to passing it.

The policy of rolling back financial reform that allows the hedge fund managers to make those 35 to 1 leverages with your retirement money... Great. It is too bad that the financial reform Act is too complex for most Americans to understand... plain and simple: by allowing a complete laissez-faire approach to the markets gets us right back to 2008. Maybe that is what most Americans need to experience, so that they get it.

did we really need to bail out the financial services industry? solvent companies would have taken over these failing firms without cost to the taxpayer. Not being able to read the reform act is due to Dem lawyers who wrote this stuff. We need to have legislation written in simple language that all can understand.

And on market issues, what do you feel that Fanny mae and Freddie Mac did to take the economy down? When issues were taken to committee, the Dems, Barney Frank, Dodd and Maxine did their best to stop actions on behalf of the leaders of those organizations. Now, where are they? Dodd is out, Barney may be voted out, and Maxine may have here committee problems. The leaders of the failed Freddie/Fannie are out with their $50M buyouts.

Now do you understand, or do you wish to site some liberal media outlet for rebuttal?

When you have nothing to buzz about, what can you do but create false election ads about your opponent? Americans are not as dumb as the ruling class makes us believe. You can't sell what the public doesn't want to buy.

Yeah nancy, we need to pass the bill to understand the bill. You passed it, I understand it, and I am not in favor of it.

spend, spend and spend.

Safecracker Save,save, and more saving is one of the things that got us into the financial mess that we are in today. We were a country of buyers and then we got scared and everyone started saving. When you have more saving than buying you risk loss of jobs and loss of manufacturing.