Iraq: Unfinished Business
Lesley Stahl On The Many Possible Sources of Conflict That Could Erupt Once The U.S. Withdraws Completely
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Play CBS Video Video Iraq: Unfinished Business Lesley Stahl goes to Iraq to report on the many possible sources of conflict that could erupt once the U.S. completely withdraws from the country by the end of 2011.
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Video Extra: Al Qaeda And Iraq Gen. Ray Odierno talks to Lesley Stahl about Al Qaeda's attempts to try to stay relevant in Iraq.
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Video Moving Day: Getting Out of Iraq We all know moving isn't easy. Try moving roughly two million items, ranging from ammunition to office chairs, over desert sands in 130 degree heat while the enemy is shooting at you. "60 Minutes Overtime" unpacks the story of the U.S. Army's massive logistical draw down in Iraq.
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Lesley Stahl and Gen. Ray Odierno, flying over "disputed" areas of Iraq. (CBS)
The American commander who knows more about that unfinished business than anyone is four-star General Ray Odierno, who spent more time in Iraq than any other senior officer. In 2003, he led the 4th Infantry Division that captured Saddam Hussein. He helped implement the "surge" as General Petraeus' number two.
And became number one himself two years ago when Iraq was so violent, he never left the base without wearing full body armor. Last month, as he was about to relinquish command, he showed us a very different Iraq.
When asked by correspondent Lesley Stahl whether he was wearing armor at a Baghdad market, the general told her, "No, I'm not."
As General Odierno looks back on his two years as commander, he says that despite a recent wave of bombings, the level of violence has come down considerably. His last act as the man in charge was to oversee the U.S. military drawdown, the largest movement of troops and materiel since World War II.
60 Minutes Overtime: Moving Day in Iraq
We all know moving isn't easy. Try moving roughly two million items, ranging from ammunition to office chairs, over desert sands in 130 degree heat while the enemy is shooting at you. "60 Minutes Overtime" unpacks the story of the U.S. Army's massive logistical draw down in Iraq.
Extra: Al Qaeda and Iraq
Extra: Saddam's Torture Chambers
It was a logistical tour de force, involving over 40,000 armored vehicles, jeeps and bulldozers; 2.2 million separate items had to be sorted, stacked and packed, as well as 7,000 tons of ammunition.
The Army's 4th Stryker Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division was the last combat unit to leave. It took them three days and nights to move across the border into Kuwait.
But many Iraqis wonder what the U.S. occupation accomplished, as we leave their country with a litany of unresolved issues, not the least being political disarray: Iraq's parliament remained locked, dark and empty, for nearly seven months while the politicians wrangled over who would be the next prime minister.
"People are beginning to wonder, you know, if this country can really sustain democracy," Stahl remarked.
"Well, I think we have to see. I mean, I still think it's too early to tell," Odierno said. "If you look in United States history, democracy was pretty ugly in the beginning. This is a very difficult form of government. But I think they really want it."
"If I were an Iraqi, I'd say 'We had this great election. We're so proud of ourselves. But what did they get for it?'" Stahl asked.
"You had an election that was free and people were able to vote for the people they thought. It was a very close election. A very close election," Odierno replied. "When have you seen a close election in the Arab world?"
But the question for people like Rahad al Hindi is: what has democracy meant for their daily lives?
The United States has spent $50 billion trying to rebuild Iraq, including $5 billion to improve the electrical grid, but as we discovered, the grid barely works.
People who can afford them buy generators, which explains the rats' nests of wires you see everywhere.
But Rahad, a factory worker, can't afford much, so she and her family live here mostly in the dark. They get only two hours of electricity a day, so no power for a fan, for a refrigerator, or a pump to bring water into their apartment.
Rahad and her brother, Bassam, get water from their neighbors with generators, one pail at a time. It's a daily trek back down the stairwell and up the street and then back again. If her neighbors aren't home, Rahad says there's no water.
"They weren't there, oh no!" Stahl remarked, after Rahad returned with an empty pail. "So now you have to wait for them to come home before you can have any water?"
It's hard to tell just how representative Rahad is: overall in Iraq, per capita income has jumped nearly 700 percent since 2003. But we couldn't find anyone who didn't complain about the quality of life.
Produced by Richard Bonin
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- I don't think for a moment that Israel and their neocon shills in the Bush administration had any part in involving the USA in Iraq.
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- it is with a sense of dread and great foreboding that I take your bait. I cant help myself. I see the worm, and I can see that big hook in there plain as day.OK, lets have it. Who put the US into Iraq? The Bilderbergers? The Rothchilds? The Masons? The Jews? Oh wait. ****. You already said it wasnt israel. Who could it be?? Go ahead. Sicken me.
- But I think they really want it Democracy?????????????? Just like Athens wanted Democracy what they have now is "a Boullibaise of selfishness " There tribal Dammit just like wild dogs and OUR Pack is bittin at their Heels!!!!
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- "many possible sources of conflict"? Like their long post-poned civil war maybe? geesh, people, we need to wise up and GTF out of Iraq! There was never any reason to be there in the first place. If they want a blood bath, they're going to have one no matter how long we delay it.
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- I hate to say it, but the Iraquis will have no on to blame but themselves for whatever happens after US troops pull out. For starters, the Iraqis asked the US to withdraw its troops. Their inability to form a stable government is a result of being unable to bring the warring religious factions together. 5,000+ American lives plus billions of dollars are more than enough contributed to them to help stabilize their crisis. There were two reasons we went to war there; WMD's and to rid the country of Saddam Hussein. The US should have started pulling our troops out of there the day after Hussein was captured. I don't understands why the US feels it is our duty to solve the problems of the world. The US is in the middle of one of the worst crisis' in American history.I think the government need to clean its own closet and stabilize the US before taking on the problems of other Nations. We are currently trillions of dollars in debt because of our own corrupt government and thieves from Wall Street and American Bankers. China (technically) owns almost one-half of the US as a result of the US continually borrowing money from other Countries. $80 billion dollars were sent to Greece to keep their government from collapsing. I think funds and supplies sent to other Countries when they experience natural disasters is the right thing to do, however the US has enough starving, homeless and downtrodden people right here in the US that should be taken care of first.!!
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- nobody to blame but themselves? They can cast a little blame toward the US. For they had an island of western secular society, with equal rights for women and religious fundamentalism kept in check. Their society has been blown backwards a few hundred years, with a rule by fanatics, depending on how big and how many guns they have. Al Queda now has a permanent home in Iraq. An entire generation lost The middle east is a much more dangerous place now. All for what? The WMD lie? Surely you jest. Yeah,right, we should have began pulling our troops out the moment after we blew their society to bits. I dont understand why we feel obligated to "solve" the problems we create.
- Lesley Stahl is so not compassionate in her interviews...I would not want her to talk to me!!!!!
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- Peace with honor.
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- Iraq: Unfinished Business. "To the rear, 'harch! Double Time!" France: Vietnam, Algeria... US: Vietnam, Lebanon, Somalia, Iraq...
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- The "Bush lied" line used by the left is just so much hatred of Bush with no facts. It is so easy to look back and blame and villify, but even today it is mostly about scoring political points.
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- Although its easy to look back and say the Iraq war was a mistake, we really do not know what would have happened had we not gone to war. It was a very fearful time and the war would not have happened without huge public support and support from democrats, as well as support from the world. All intelligence thought Saddam had weapons. The left has been very successful at villifying George Bush, but much of the criticism is very very unfair. War is rarely popular, but we really will never know if it was a mistake or not because we don't know what would have happened had we not gone to wary
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- Unfinished Business? War is not just a business. WAR IS A RACKET and THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL MAFIA has not finished robbing you of money and the lives of your sons and daughters.
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