AL-QADHDHAFI WARNS EUROPE ON PROTECTING 'TERRORISTS'

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Documents on Talks With PRC Officials Signed
LD271131 Algiers APS in Arabic 0700 GMT 27 Oct 85
[Text] Algiers, 27 Oct (APS) -Two documents were signed
yesterday on the outcome of the political and economic talks and
on the various areas of cooperation between Algeria and China
following the visit by a Chinese delegation led by Tian Jiyun,
member of the Political Bureau and vice-premier of the PRC
Council of State.
In the political field, the good relations between Algeria and the
PRC were emphasized when Tian Jiyun was received by Presi-
dent Chadli Bendjedid, president of the republic and secretary
general of the party.
The signing of these two documents projects the strengthening
of bilateral economic relations.
The meeting of the second session of the joint committee for
economic, trade, and technical cooperation will be held in Beijing
during the first [word indistinct] of 1986.
The position of cooperation was discussed at these talks. The two
sides have agreed to use all means to develop it so both parties
can utilize all the available potential.
PRC Envoy Conveys Leader's Message to Bendjedid
LD262022 Algiers Domestic Service in French
1830 GMT 26 Oct 85
[Text] President Chadli Bendjedid today received the PRC vice
chairman, who gave him a message from President Li Xiannian.
The minister for light industry and the head of the department
of international affairs and cooperation of the presidency and the
Chinese ambassador in Algiers were present at the audience.
[brahimi Holds Talks With Leaders in New York
LD26/207 Algiers APS in English /O10 GMT 26 Oct 85
[Text] New York, 26 Oct 85 (APS) -The Foreign Affairs
Minister Dr Ahmed Taleb (brahimi met Thursday evening here
after a dinner offered by Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi, a
number of heads of state and government. In this context, he
conferred with West German Chancellor Helmut Kohl,
presidents Eanes of Portugal, Ziaul Haq of Pakistan, Bongo of
Gabon, Vieira of Guinea Bissau and Pereira of Cape Verde and
prime ministers Mugabe of Zimbabwe and Lange of New Zea-
land.
Dr Ahmed Taleb (brahimi also paid a visit to Senegalese Presi-
dent and Acting Chairman of the O.A.U. Abdou Diouf.
He also met the U.N. secretary general, Javier Perez de Cuellar
and Yugoslav President Vlajkovic.
The talks the foreign affairs minister had with various heads of
state and government and the U.N, secretary general, were
centered on international topical question such as the Western
Sahara issue the Iraq-Iran war and the Chadian problem.
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AI-Qa>~dhafi Warns Europe on Protecting `Terrorists'
LD261313 Tripoli Voice of Greater Arab Homeland
in Arabic 2/40 GMT 25 Oct 85
[Libyan leader Colonel Mu`ammar al-Qadhdhafi address
relayed via satellite to a seminar on Libyan development held in
Paris on 25 October -recorded]
[Text] I would like to thank the organizers of this seminar as well
as the nongovernmental organizations that have shown an inter-
est. (consider this to be an important international contribution
to acquainting nations with each other. Through such efforts,
worthy of thanks, the confirmation of understanding between the
[word indistinctj?of the world, and increasing and strengthening
the links between Europe and our country in particular. This
seminar is being'held in France, a European country situated on
the shore of the Mediterranean, opposite to our country. It is held
so that those living around this fake, the Mediterranean Sea -
which we want to be a lake of peace -can exchange views on
knowledge, trade, assistance, science, and culture, and not on
fleets, military campaigns and destructive propaganda. We call
for the evacuation of all foreign fleets from the Mediterranean,
and we want this sea also to be free of foreign bases and nuclear
weapons and become a lake of peace. Arabs and Europeans
should struggle side by side in order to achieve this common
objective.
First, Libya is now based on the Jamahiri system, which is based
on the Third Universal Theory [AI-Nadhariyah al-Alamiyah
al-Thalithah] as recorded in the Green Book in its three parts. To
understand the nature of this new society, we should first under-
stand the Green Book, understand the Jamahiriyah theory, the
Libyan popular theory. This theory is not Libyan, rather it is an
international theory. Also it is not my work inasmuch as it is my
collection of the axioms and self-evident truths which 1 have
classified and put in sections in the Green Book. The struggle of
mankind is the author of the Green Book. There have been
examples [armanahij) of Libyan society in history but they did
not reach the stage now achieved by Libya. Before Christ, the
Jamahiri system [words indistinct].
In the French revolution, following the destruction of the Bastille
on 14 July, when the masses rose to burn down the palaces of the
feudalism and princes, a Jamahiri system was established, but
the revolution afterwards regrettably [word indistinct] and the
French revolution relapsed then as a Jamahiri revolution. Then
it was confirmed as a bourgeois republic, which opened new
horizons for the world, as the representative, bourgeois regime.
This, as is known, means it was a revolution by the bourgeoisie
against feudalism.
When the Bolshevik revolution broke out in Russia, Russia was
in a different situation from Libya, despite the fact that there is
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materials: drugs, threats, cheating, and false promises. Harfan
said one of the leaders of the Labor-Communist Party in Ba`la-
bakkthreatened him that if he did not join the operation he might
as well consider himself dead. The squad, as stated, contained
four people, two Christians and two Muslims. The purpose of the
mixed composition was to demonstrate that the Lebanese opposi-
tion front is renewing its activity, and that the common goal of
the sacred jihad is bridging the differences of opinion among the
sects and parties. The Voice of Hope broadcasting station was
selected as the target of choice, mainly in order to achieve
maximum impact in propaganda and morale terms. The prepara-
tions for the operation took several days and were crowned a few
hours prior to the departure by a cocktail of high-power pep pills
and ecstatic jihad preaching. It was explained to the squad
members that, according to the plan, they would emerge from
their mission safe and sound. They carried explosives weighing
50 kg on their backs and they were told that they had ] 0 minutes
between setting the charge and its explosion, but what happened
in the courtyard of the broadcasting station teaches us that the
terrorists were misled by those who sent them. As soon as they
planted the explosive charge beside the station's wall, the explo-
sionoccurred and three of the squad members were blown up and
their remains scattered to the four winds. All that was left of
them was the belt buckles with the symbol of the communist
organization on them. Luckily for him, Nasir Harlan was
wounded breaking in to the station and was left a little behind
the others. After the explosion, he tried to flee, but traces of blood
he left behind gave him away in a short time. Harfan told his
interrogators he had feared this was going to be a suicide mission,
since on the eve of the departure for the operation, the squad
members recorded a videotape filled with jihad slogans.
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now a great similarity to Libya. [Words indistinct] thinkers
dreamed about this society and I believe that [names indistinct]
all dreamed about or depicted an ideal society free of various
authorities, free of [word indistinct], of exploitation, free of
government. That is how people can live without a government,
without an instrument of oppression, how people can live without
oppression, with police, an army, a ruler; how people can live,
rule, and administer themselves without any representation,
deputization, or mediation.
1 believe that these dreams, hopes, and previous attempts have
now been realized in Libya through the Jamahiri system. The
Green Book is the (?general) guide for all peoples to follow the
example of Libya in setting up a Jamahiri system. [Passage
indistinctJ. When the French revolution erupted, France was
accused of being a state of terror, a state of the mob, a state of
the riffraff, and of humiliating kings and established families.
The whole of Europe laid siege to France, and armies, led by
emperors, kings, and generals overloaded with medals, marched
in an attempt to liquidate this new (?cry) in France, the (?cry for
fraternity, freedom, and equality). But they were the ones who
were finished - the emporors, the kings, and the generals -and
the bourgeois republic triumphed in Europe and the world.
Was France in fact a terrorist state or were events originally a
call for terror? It was a call for freedom, equality, and fraternity,
and for the establishment of a republic. But the world at that time
was backward in relation to this model, and it disapproved of it
and fought it because the world at the time was a reactionary
one. The republic triumphed and the reactionary world fell
because it lost its relationship with progress; anything losing its
relationship with progress loses the battle for life.
Even Libya is now being accused of calling for chaos, for [words
indistinct]. We want to make history. We know that the world is
backward in relation to the Libyan model and subsequently it
cannot absorb the fact that Libyan society is new because it is
not the same nature as existing society - that of government of
the people, armies, police, exploitation, oppression, deputization,
mediation on behalf of the citizen, on behalf of the masses.
[sentence as heard] The society which now exists in Libya is
strange to the world. 1 expect the world to reject and fight it, but
this new model will triumph because it is progressive.
Those who arc now fighting the Jamahiri system and the Jama-
hiriyah are actually reactionaries and shortsighted people cast
away by history and progress because they are reactionaries, and
consequently they will inevitably fall and the Jamahiriyah will
triumph. The whole world will then turn inevitably to the
Jamahiri system just as it did after the French revolution and
turned to the republican system.
When the Bolshevik revolution broke in Russia, Russia was
alsobranded a country of terror, blood, steel, and fire. The world
fought it and tried to contain it. But the world at the time was a
capitalist world, a rotten world, and hence could not accept the
Bolshevik tenets: the state of the workers, the liquidation of the
feudalist and exploitive classes. The world, being a capitalist
world, sympathized with the classes opposed by the Bolshevik
revolution and with the reactionaries, being itself a reactionary
world. But who triumphed in the end? The Bolshevik revolution
triumphed because [words indistinct] and those who tried to
beseige it and [words indistinct] failed.
Does this means that the Bolshevik revolution was a revolution
staged for the sake of shedding blood and the destruction of the
world and [word indistinct]? Not at all. It was staged for the sake
of socialism and the workers, and to combat capitalism. It has
progressed quite considerably along this road. It suffices now fo
ask the capitalist world [words indistinct] the socialist world. In
fact, it is a call for prosperity and progress, and the solution of
the economic problem. But .the world fighting it is a world
breathing its last breath. [Passage indistinct].
Iran is likewise being branded a country of executions, terror,and
fanaticism. But this [words indistinct]. The Iranian revolution is
a popular revolution and a patriotic revolution. It is against
imperialism, Zionist militarism, and reaction. The imperialist,
capitalist reactionary world cannot but fight it. But it will
triumph over them.
The same thing applies to Libya. It is a new model and a new
outcry calling for the liberation of peoples, the liberation of the
masses, and the establishment of a Jamahiri world run by the
masses without governments. It calls for the abolition of armies.
The Third Universal Theory calls for the abolition of armies,
authorities, and governments. Only the peoples will remain so
that there will be true independence. True independence cannot
be achieved at a summit among the big powers as one expects
now, nor at the United Nations, which has lost its credibility
because the big powers have the right to veto the resolutions of
the UN General Assembly, which represents all the peoples on
earth. Hence, wars are everywhere, and the UN Security Council
seems unable to establish peace. Palestine is occupied and the
UN Security Council has been unable to return it to the Palestin-
ian people.
Grenada has also been overrun, but the UN Security Council has
been unable to wrest it away From the grip of imperialism and
return it to its people and to the revolutionaries.
Tension now rules the world. The world is ruled also by feelings
of fear for mankind and peace. Peace, complete peace, cannot be
achieved except when Jamahiriyahs are set up everywhere
throughout the world, and when all armies, governments, par-
liaments,andclasses are eliminated, and the masses remain. This
is because peoples never hate each other. There is not one people
prepared to leave their country to occupy the land of another
people. This has never happened except in the cases of exoduses
brought about forhistorical reasons, as you all know. Armies,
however, cross borders on the orders of their commanders. Once
the armies vanish, so will their commanders. There will be no
instrument to cross the borders nor will there be anyone to give
orders.
It is unlikely that the popular congresses in Libya, which are
actually the whole Libyan people, will leave their land to occupy
the land of others. But they are prepared to defend their land.
The armed people are prepared for defense.
When there is an armed people, there are no ambitions for
occupation because the armed people arc there to deter any
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enemies against occupation and invasion. Thus, peace will prevail
only when the peoples become masters.
But how do the peoples become the masters? They become
masters once they adopt the idea of popular congresses and
popular committees.
Though the French revolution itself... [changes thought] From
my study of the history of the French revolution, I realized that
the Jamahiriyah system was achieved there. Popular congresses
rose automatically and the Bastille fell, as well as the palaces of
the princes and the feudalist lords. The French people set up what
was called then popular councils, which are in fact popular
congresses.
Following the revolution in Libya, and when the people realized
that the monarchy had fallen, the bases were controlled, and the
police had laid down their arms, the Libyan people set up popular
congresses everywhere. Thus, when people want to run their own
affairs and when they believe that they are in a position of
responsibility and there is no government to run things, they set
up popular congresses. The popular congresses are thus a natural
phenomenon that follows when peoples become free.
The Jamahiri world is a world run by popular congresses, and by
popular committees -- congresses and committees everywhere.
The new slogans will be raised and they will triumph: There can
be no democracy without popular congresses and congresses and
committees everywhere; there can be no proxy for the people;
representation is nothing but charlatanism.
It has been proven: There is no real representation of the peoples
in Europe. The European parliaments have approved the installa-
tion of American missiles, long-range nuclear missiles, while the
peoples stage demonstrations in the streets in protest. Every day
we see in Europe horsemen confronting demonstrators in the
streets, and there are acts of suppression and imprisonment and
violent clashes between the people and the police. In Britain, in
South Africa, and in America there are fires.
All this shows that the angry masses in the streets are not actually
represented. There are parliaments, but these parliaments, it
seems, do not represent anyone. This is because the parliaments
are governed by charlatanism: Representation is nothing but
charlatanism. This saying is an immortal one. It is not of my
making. It is one that requires no proof. For no one can represent
another. If one is sick, no other person can feel what he is
suffering. If a man is miserable, no matter how hard you try, you
cannot truly represent his misery. If a man is angry, you cannot
reflect his true degree of anger. If there is a man who is needy,
you cannot truly represent his degree of need. Only he himself
alone can truly express his pains, ambitions, happiness, and
pleasure. Thus, representation is nothing but charlatanism --
psychologically, socially, and politically. All parliaments must
fall, governments must end, and armies be abolished and
replaced by popular congresses and popular committees. Acon-
gresswould have authority vested in it and the committees would
be the tools implementing the decisions made by this popular
authority.
But this requires a world cultural revolution that would spread
these green theories and the Green Book. The ones who will
herald this will be the revolutionaries. Hence, it is necessary to
have a revolutionary movement, a revolutionary committees
movement. Thus, the new universal green movement would
spread throughout the whole world so that the masses would learn
the sayings and teachings of the Green Book, the new bible.
The masses would then understand this new knowledge. Then a
cultural revolution would take place and would be followed by
political and economic revolutions. Libya is a revolutionary state
founded on popular authority, popular congresses, and popular
committees. My role is only one of instigation. 1 strongly support
the cause of liberation and revolution.
Who are the ones who accuse Libya of terrorism? They are the
oneswho are opposed to the cause of liberation and against the
revolution. They are the forces of oppression, exploitation, impe-
rialism, racism, and of Zionism, which occupies a land which
does not belong to the Zionists. Those who accuse Libya of
terrorism go even so far as to accuse the PLO of being a terrorist
organization at a time when the whole world recognizes the PLO
as the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people.
Thus, supporting the PLO is considered supporting terrorism.
This is exactly what Reagan, American society, and Zionism say.
They say that Libya is a country that supports terrorism. Since
the PLO is a terrorist organization, then Libya is a country that
supports terrorism. This is what we hear now: Support for peoples
struggling for freedom means terrorism.
They consider Nicaragua to be a terrorist country. This is
because Nicaragua has embarked on an action of liberation,one
of national independence. They consider the--Nicaraguan
national liberation movement to be a terrorist movement. Since
Libya supports Nicaragua, they consider Libya to be a country
supporting terrorism.
Recently in South Africa, the poet Benjamin [Moloise] was
executed. He was a revolutionary, patriotic person. But they
considered him an outlaw and a rebel against authority. They
considered him a terrorist. They also labeled acts of terrorism the
popular demonstrations staged by blacks in South Africa who are
demanding their right to independence in their own land and the
eviction of the aggressive invading white people who have no right
to the resources of South Africa. Thus, when we support the
African National Congress, or Benjamin, or the demonstrations
in South Africa, we are considered a country supporting terror-
ism.
The countries opposed to liberation, the forces opposed to liber-
ation describe everything else as terrorism. This point must be
made clear. 1 believe it is clear to you. We must discuss the
meaning of terrorism. We are ready to attend an international
conference or seminars to explain the meaning of terrorism.
The fact of the matter is that terrorism is the American terroriza-
tion of the peoples: Terrorization with fleets, nuclear bombs,
nuclear detonations, and the militarization of space. This is
terrorism. All peoples now live in terror. Even the space over their
heads has been militarized and nuclear missiles have been
installed everywhere, as well as nuclear bases. Fleets are now
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threatening secure peoples; take, for example, the repeated
American aggression in the Gulf of Sidra, which is aggression
against a country that wishes to live in peace. This is terrorism.
We live under terrorism by imperialism. The Lebanese people
are living under terror because of the Zionist guns. The Syrian
people in the Golan are living under terror. The Jordanian people
are living under terror. Even Tunisia is now living under terror
of Zionist aggression. A small peaceful nation was subjected to
aggression in broad daylight and to strikes by aircraft with bombs
and missiles. This is terrorism exceeding all terrorism, taking
place at a distance from over 1,000 km.
Thus we are living under the threat of Zionist, imperialist
terrorism. But when we try to resist it, we are considered terror-
ists. This is topsy-turvey logic. It verges deeply into the illogical.
On the contrary, Libya is a victim of terrorism -American
terrorism. Even those European countries which benefit from the
existence of Libya economically and politically as a neutral
country are now protecting terrorist groups that oppose the
revolution in Libya. But those European countries will pay the
price for their protection of terrorism, because terrorism will
move into its territory. Any chases in the streets or any explosions
that might take place will be the responsibility of those who
protect terrorism. European countries should realize where their
interests lie. They should appreciate their interests in Libya; they
are huge interests.
1 will show you by figures how Libya is a developing country,
investing billions in development. This has enabled European
countries to reap great benefits as a result of the development
operation in Libya. There are over 300 companies from Western
Europe alone operating in Libya which gain billions in profits as
a result of development in all fields which has been taking place
in Libya in the post-revolution era. This is a revolution of
development and not a revolution of terrorism.
Those European countries have not in fact appreciated their own
interests. This is because they are subservient to American
policy, which is hostile to Libya, and because they provide
protection for anti-Libyan terrorists.
In the context of the topic of this seminar, which is development
in Libya and the Jamahiriyah in Libya, I have here before me
statistics showing Libya's development and its imports from
West European countries. Libya's imports from these West
European countries in 1981, the first year of the 5-year plan,
totalled about $6 billion. In 1982, they totalled about $5 billion.
In 1971, they totalled to $500 million only. These figures concern
our imports from Western Europe. This shows that after the
revolution, the volume of our imports increased.
As for Libya's imports from Western Europe compared to its
total imports worldwide, the figures show that Libya's imports
from the West European countries constitute 70 percent of
Libya's total imports. These imports are developing. They were
60 percent, but they have now reached 70 percent. This means
that Libya imports 70 percent of its total imports from Western
Europe.
Thus, Libya is extremely important to Western Europe. Con-
sequently, Western Europe must think of its own interests and
not those of America. America wants to sacrifice the interests of
Western Europe for the sake of safeguarding its own interests.
Hence, the United States does not look at these figures or at these
billions. There are over 300 West European companies operating
in Libya. All these interests would be harmed if Libya decides to
evict Western Europe and close the door in its face should
Western Europe continue to protect anti-Libyan terrorists and
continue to support the extremely anti-Libya American racist
policy.
On the other hand, the percentage of Libya's exports to Western
Europe (?has gone down). In other words, quite the opposite to
imports. Until 1985, exports were 85 percent, that is, 85 percent
of Libya's exports went to Western Europe. At the present time,
Western Europe imports only 54 percent of Libya's exports.
While 70 percent of our imports come from Western Europe, only
54 percent of our exports go to Western Europe. This means that
this relationship is in favor of Western Europe more than it is in
favor of Libya, because Libya's exports to Western Europe are
diminishing while Libya's imports from Western Europe are
growing. Europe must grasp this.
I thank you, for this is a valuable opportunity you have offered
me to objectively put before you these facts. I have before me, on
paper; the balance of the contracts between Libya and the states
of Western Europe concerning 5-year plan projects: West Ger-
many; $7 billion. This is just the volume of contracts between
West Germany and Libya. Italy: $4 billion; France, $1 billion;
Britain, $400 million. So, Germany is No 1; Italy No 2; France
No 3, and then Britain.
The value of contracts with Western Europe -there are other
states in Western Europe which 1 have not mentioned - is $16
billion. Imagine -- $16 billion. This, in brief, is the volume of
foreign cooperation between Libya and Western Europe alone;
and it is in favor of Western Europe. It shows just how massive
Libya's spending is, Libya's investments in development.
After the revolution about 1,000 foreign companies entered and
worked in Libya in the fields of industry, agriculture, health,
[words indistinct], ports, and airports. These are the fields of
development in Libya.
Furthermore, I want to say that the regime in Libya, the Jama-
hiriyah regime -about which 1 briefed you earlier - is based
on the Green Book. It is meant to be based on the Green Book.
Its implementation will appear more clearly in the future because
ambiguity might arise due to the fact that we are on the way to
eliminating the style of the previous regime with its corrupt,
exploitation-based relations and its bourgeois, reactionary, and
consumption-based culture. We are taking up this fight in order
to create a new productive, cooperative, socialist, democratic
people's culture, and a regime founded on this idea.
The economic order in Libya is an implementation of the first
chapter; I mean, the second chapter of the Green Book. It is based
on the order of partnership. There are now partners in the
production of the great establishments owned by the people.
Take, for instance, a plant manufacturing tractors. Suppose it
produces 30 tractors a day:10 tractors go to the plant, to the plant
that has participated with us in producing them; 10 tractors go
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to the raw materials suppliers, or to the people if they were the
ones who supplied them; and ] 0 tractors go to the workers.
Likewise, suppose a cement plant produces 3,000 sacks a day:
1,000 sacks go to the plant; 1,000 sacks to the raw materials
suppliers, and 1,000 sacks to the workers. Workers do not relin-
quish 1,000 sacks for a wage equivalent to 100 or 200 sacks, as
is the case now in the world where workers are slaves [words
indistinct] their wages.
Wage earners are those who give up their production in return
for a wage which equals part of their production, but in Libya,
with the liberation of workers from the wage system, workers who
have become partners, not wage earners, under the slogan "Part-
ners, Not Wage Earners," now receive compensation for all of
their production. The factory, raw materials, the workers; these
three elements participated in a productive operation and gave
us a product. This product is divided equally among these three
elements. But what is happening now in the world is that a factory
owner takes all three shares and gives a worker a wage, which
equals only part of his production. The economic system based
on the system of partnership has its main support in the fact that
wage earners have become partners. The workers [words indis-
tinct].
Second, there is also the system of joint partnership: A group of
Libyans participate equally in productive work and the adminis-
tration of this work is shared equally. They have no manager, but
if there must be one, one of the partners in the joint partnership
becomes a manager for a day, a week, a month. They divide
production among themselves equally, that is according to the
effort and according to the [word indistinct] of each one in the
joint aartnership. This is (?currently a major project). Each group
of Libyans comes to the General People's Committee for the
Economy for a licence to establish a productive joint partnership:
So Libyans, 10, 20, they become partners; there is no employer
and employee; they are all partners. Accordingly, there is no
employer and employee. In Libya there is no Libyan who works
for another Libyan for a wage. There are no wages at all in Libya.
This is [words indistinct].
The other model: the individual worker. A Libyan citizen wants
to have a farm [words indistinct]; one wants to open a workshop
for himself and his family, or as an individual; one wants to open
a repair workshop, a production workshop. What is important is
that it should be productive work. Everyone is free; the one who
wants to work for himself and the one who wants to work with
others in a joint partnership is free to do so, and the one who
wants to work with the people in an establishment owned by the
people, in which he is a partner in production, is free to do so.
There is also another system: one who wants to provide a service
to the people. The people should provide him with a livelihood.
Let us assume that a doctor or a teacher says: 1 do not want to
enter into a joint partnership or work in an establishment owned
by the people, and 1 do not want to establish a workshop or a farm
for myself; I want to serve the people, l want to be in the field of
medicine or in teaching, to teach children or treat the sick. In
return, the people should guarantee the livelihood of this person,
but not by way of a wage. ]t is important however that the people
guarantee a carefree livelihood sufficient to meet his needs.
[Passage indistinct].
This led the world to the point of falsifying (?contracts), with all
the emphasis on money becoming (?essential). The quest now is
not for somebody with qualifications or with production poten-
tial, for somebody knowing the value of money. No, the quest
now is for somebody with money itself. This is very grave, and is
the reason why the world is now deviating, and is forging cur-
rency. There is currently a great problem: The forging of cur-
rency in the world. Why is currency being forged? Because the
quest now is only for currency, for money. For currency, even
forged, one can take other people's production. One's value is
measured by the money in his pocket.
The questions now are not how many consumer goods do you
have, how big is your production capacity, what are your
qualifications; no, the question is how much money you have in
your pocket. Hence, the forging of money has become ineluc-
table. This is a disaster because production will stop,
qualifications will be abandoned, man's values will be
obliterated, and a man's value will be measured by the amount
of money he has. Therefore, money is an evil that must be fought.
Money must be (word indistinct] money. Money disappears when
profit disappears.
The society of the masses, heralded by the Green Book and the
Third Universal Theory, is a society where economic activity is
aimed at satisfying the needs, and not at saving. You (?work) so
as to live, and not so as to save. The rest of (?production) must go
to the people [words indistinct] what it wants, but the activity of
an individual must be aimed only at satisfying his needs.
In this regard, even the religious doctrines, Islam and other
religions, were founded on this basis, on the basis of this economic
theory. Perhaps Christianity and Judaism too, all religions [words
indistinct], shunning illicit gains, not taking other people's prop-
erty, forbidding interest. This means that a person should pro-
duce in order to satisfy his needs only; the remainder is for
society. If we followed this policy there would be no crisis or
unemployment in the world. The cause of the current economic
crisis and unemployment in the world is the fact that anyone is
allowed to exploit society. One person should not have 100 houses
and then rent them. He has the right to just one house; the other
99 must be the property of the people.
Everyone tries to take [words indistinct] society is divided among
the members of the society; the share of each one is a stone or a
house and the remainder is collective property. A person has no
right to touch the wealth of society, to add to what he really needs
and then say: This is my property, my private property. Commu-
nism, as a matter of fact, meets Islam on this subject. What 1
have seen is that communism calls for a man living in a commu-
nistsociety toproduce only so as to live, to produce so as to satisfy
his needs. From his production he takes what satisfies his needs.
Communism says that you produce the maximum, but from your
own production you take only what satisfies your needs and you
leave the rest for society.
This is the economic order in force in Libya, an order for
liberating needs. For a person to become free, he must be freed
from his needs. It is in the needs that freedom lies, and it is in
freedom that happiness lies. For a person to be happy he must be
free, and for him to be free we must fret him from his needs and
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remove from him all pressure, both material and moral. We must
also break all his bonds. If bonds are smashed, pressures lifted,
and needs taken care of, then man becomes really free and his
human nature is fulfilled. He becomes the one who makes
decisions; he can make laws for himself, make decisions for
himself. He can decide his influence in the People's Congresses.
Naturally this can be realized only in a Jamahiri society founded
on the People's Congresses and the Peoples Committees. Land
belongs to everyone and everyone can use land to satisfy his needs
by his own efforts (?but not to exploit) others. Land is collective
property. Anyone who wants to build a house does not buy it from
anyone. If he wants to build a workshop on it, he does not buy
from anyone; if he wants to build a farm on it, he does not buy
the land from anyone, and he does not own the land on which his
farm is built; he owns the farm but not the land on which the
farm is built.
A house belongs to the one who lives in it. A family cannot live
in a house belonging to someone else because this would be a
serious (?encroachment) on freedom, a very grave restriction to
freedom. [Words indistinct] moral and material [word indistinct]
against freedom is the fact that someone lives in a house belong-
ing to someone else. For someone to become free we must at least
free his basic needs: housing, means of transport, clothing, food,
drink, and decision-making. These are things that man must
possess, otherwise he will lose his freedom.
[Word indistinct] governments (?use) the current exploitation to
deny man these opportunities, to deny him the right to decision-
making [word indistinct] with the government or parliament.
Man therefore is denied material and moral power. The forces of
exploitation benefit [words indistinct] food, housing, means of
transport belonging to others; [word indistinct] belonging to
others. If [word indistinct] man becomes nothing. When mankind
realizes this new (?approach) it will revolt over this [word indis-
tinct]ofthese material and moral opportunities. This is the origin
of cultural revolution. The cultural revolution will start when
man everywhere realizes that to be free he must possess these
capabilities. Freedom is not ('?the principle) of liberalism or the
one that led to imperialist capitalism, the freedom to plunder
other people's potentials.
No, one is free when one possesses one's own potentials, when one
is master of one's own needs; but what belongs to others is for
others. Presently, capitalism says that one is free to exploit others,
plunder others, enslave others. This led to the advent of Marxism
as a nationalist reaction forbidding private property definitively;
houses became the property of (municipality?), instead of belong-
ing to a landlord. But this [word indistinct] that has harmed
freedom.
The Jamahiri regime is the exit from the controversial crisis
between Marxism and capitalism that has now worsened. Man-
kind is now facing an impasse and marking time. But, mankind
has the capability to transcend crisis. [t is these capabilities that
have created the Green Book and the Third Universal Theory in
order to move toward progress once again. There is no [words
indistinct] for any reason. The Jamahiri regime is post-Marxism.
[Word indistinct] Marxism, there was an outlet to move forward.
[Word indistinct] that Marxism is a progressive trend but [words
indistinct] and faced an impasse.
The Jamahiriyah is once again the one to forge the path ahead
even if Marxism (?or any other ideology) [words indistinct]. The
economic order [in Libya] is based on this foundation. A house
must be maintained by its owners. Even housemaids are slaves
[words indistinct]; a car belongs to the person driving it; a house
belongs to those who live in it. He who produces consumes his
own production; no one has the right to take other people's
production. He who produces has the right to consume his
production. But now millions of workers produce and others
produce. They are forced to relinquish their production in return
for a small wage. So the slogan of, "Partners, Not Wage Earners"
must spread throughout the world so that sit-ins and demonstra-
tions waged by workers throughout the world [words indistinct];
wages must be completely abolished and workers must be freed
from their bonds and become partners, not wage earners. This
must spread to factories. This would spread by means of rev-
olutionary committees in every plant, in every place where there
are workers. They would spread these new daring slogans.
Mankind will get out of its crisis only if the existing world is
destroyed, the world of imperialism, ('?oppression), exploitation,
the world of government and people, ruler and the ruled, the
employer and the workers, president and those he presides over.
Representatives, middlemen, leaders, presidents, all these must
disappear and be replaced by the masses; wealth must go to the
masses, not to a government or a private sector. Wealth must be
divided among members of society and everyone must get his
share of this wealth and satisfy his needs from it. Socialist
establishments must be set up where workers are partners not
wage earners until we attain a society where workers decide their
own affairs.
The political regime in Libya is based on the Jamahiri regime,
that is People's Congresses and People's Committees. Very sim-
ple: All the people are mobilized in People's Congresses which
have the power; they promulgate laws and resolutions. They
decide everything and the People's Committees implement this.
We are just a revolutionary force instigating the masses and
encouraging them to exercise power. We are still in the first
stage, getting rid of the culture and mentality of relying on a
government, on the existence of a government. We are presently
in a society without a government. [t is difficult for people to
accept and live without a government, without an army, without
police.
Last month, September, the Libyan police force disappeared and
was replaced by a local people's security force. Every
neighborhood sets up its own security. The agent wears a green
badge [words indistinct], in streets in Libya you would find that
traffic is regulated by people carrying green badges. Any citizen
can volunteer to do this job. A criminal is apprehended by any
member of the People's Security because a criminal is everyone's
enemy. So the people are taking over tasks that used to be
performed by an organ. In return for the existence of this organ,
people relinquish some of their freedom. Freedom is indivisible,
and for freedom to be complete the people must assume all the
tasks performed by the organs that reduce its freedom, foremost
of which is the institution of government.
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In Libya government has been abolished and replaced by People's
Congresses and People's Committees. The greater the population
a state has and the more remote its regions are, the more it is in
dire need of a Jamahiri regime. Perhaps a small state may not be
badly in need of a Jamahiri regime because it can be admin-
istered by means of any organ. But big states need the Jamahiri
regime more than the small states, and it is impossible for capitals
in big states, even with lies and fiddling, to practice this [word
indistinct]. Beijing cannot; it is impossible for Beijing to manage
the affairs of one billion people in China, or to know what they
want. China, more than Libya, needs to become a Jamahiriyah.
Likewise, Delhi cannot manage its nationalities and provinces
with a federal government. Impossible, and the proof is the
opposition, the trouble, and the bloody acts now taking place in
India. They all constitute the rejection of an inadequate regime.
[Sentence indistinct]. The Jamahiri regime is the regime that
would solve India's problems, the problem of [word indistinct].
The Soviet Union has to a certain extent overcome this - it is
also a big country with a big population - by means of the
soviets. The soviet regime is an incomplete Jamahiri regime; it
has not reached the grassroots. The soviets do represent the
masses, but the Jamahiri regime [words indistinct]. The masses
themselves are mobilized in the People's Congresses. The con-
gresses are the ultimate objective, and councils, soviets, and
committees are just steps on the road. This indicates that in the
future the entire world will become a Jamahiri. The proof is the
expanding basis of opposition and the widening of the basis of
participation in power. This is not going to stop midway. It will
continue until everyone gets into power, and then the Jamahiri
regime is set up. The multiplicity of parties is proof that everyone
wants to govern, and the widening of the platform of opposition
to power shows that all people want to govern and reject rulers.
The expansion of participation in power indicates that incomplete
power [the power of government as opposed to the masses] is
beginning to give way to complete power [power of the masses].
This is not going to stop midway. In the end, it will lead to the
emergence of the power of the people, the emergence of a
government with the participation of all.
History confirms this. There used to be monarchies where the
king alone ruled and owned the land and everything it contained,
and afterwards left it to his sons. This has now become ridiculous
and unacceptable due to progress. Republics later appeared
where the people elected the king, the president of the republic
being a king without a crown. People elect a king, a ruler. Their
are presidents of republics who are in fact kings because they are
presidents for life. Heritage is also involved, a president leaving
power to his son after him. This happens even in a republic.
The third stage is a stage where the masses govern themselves
and reject choosing someone to rule them. Not only do they reject
having someone rule them, but they reject even choosingsomeone
to rule them. They govern themselves because they now believe
that they are fit to govern themselves. All these demonstrations,
sit-ins, strikes, agitations in the world, and the negative and
positive political acts in the world now are an expression of
rejection: The masses set up a government and after a while this
government turns against them. They elect a parliament and then
they stage demonstrations against decisions adopted by this
parliament. Parliaments promulgate laws rejected by the masses.
This means that all-out rebellion has begun, and this is in fact
the beginning of the end for the instruments of power: par-
liaments, governments [word indistinct].
The social order is given in the third chapter of the Green Book.
When I say social order, some may think about men and women.
[n a Jamahiri society there is no consideration for the words man
and woman. In a Jamahiri society the masses are the masses
irrespective of whether they are males or females. [n this society
males and females exist only from a biological point of view which
in no way interests the political and economic domains. The
Jamahiri regime recognizes only the human being without seek-
ing to know whether it is male or female because this does not
concern it. All people are equal and the Jamahiri society is based
on all the masses. It has a completely different view of .women
from the traditional view of men and women.
In a Jamahiri society there are no men and women; there are just
masses. Hence, there are no [word indistinct] issue of women.
Society becomes free entirely, men and women, if one can say so.
This society is based on other social. matters which I now would
like to speak about such as education. From the social point of
view it is the education as provided for by the third chapter of the
Green Book [words indistinct]. Learning is a natural right for
everyone and one cannot be denied it unless denial is self-
imposed. Education also must be free without any restrictions,
molds, and official shapes. Now every state wants to teach the
new generations what the authority deems fit, but the Jamahiri
regime gives the right to everyone to familiarize himself with all
trends. [Sentence indistinct].
Education, science, and learning are not an organized curriculum
and classified subjects young people are obliged to learn during
a number of hours on rows of benches from printed books. This
sort of education that prevails throughout the world is a method
contrary to (?freedom). Mandatory education, over which states
of the world are priding themselves whenever they manage to
impose it on their respective youths, is one of the methods of
denying freedom. The mandatory shaping of man's talents is the
mandatory orientation of man's options. It is an act of dictator-
ship killing freedom. [Words indistinct] before free choice to
[words indistinct] to force man to learn a given curriculum is a
dictatorial act. Imposing specified subjects to inculcate people is
a dictatorial act. Mandatory teaching and organized curriculum-
based teaching are in fact a way of making the masses ignorant.
All states that define the trends of education through official
curricula and force people to learn them, and officially define the
subjects to be learned, are states practicing repression against
their citizens. All the methods of education now prevailing in the
world must be destroyed by a world cultural revolution that
would free the mentality of man from the curricula of [words
indistinct].
This in no way means closing schools, as those who think superfi-
cially may think when hearing this; nor does it mean people
abandoning education. Quite the contrary: Society should make
available all types of education and leave to the people the
freedom to take to any science spontaneously. This requires a
sufficient number of schools for all types of education. Not
securing enough schools means limiting the freedom of man, and
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forcing man to learn the specific subjects available. (t means
denying man a natural right as a result of the absence of other
types of education.
Societies that forbid and monopolize education are reactionary
societies, biased toward ignorance and against freedom. The
societies that prevent the knowledge of religion as it is are
reactionary societies, biased toward ignorance and hostile to
freedom. The societies that monopolize religious knowledge are
also reactionary societies, that is examples of ignorance and
slavery. Societies that discredit other people's religion, other
people's civilization, and other people's behavior in offering them
as subjects of learning are reactionary, biased societies hostile to
freedom. It is like the Christian teachers who now, throughout
the Christian world, in schools inculcate in the youth of Europe
and the Christian world a deliberately false teaching. They tell
them that Muhammad is a charlatan, a magician, and not a
prophet. Why tell them this'? Just tell them the truth and then
they will judge for themselves.
This is ignorance and a reactionary act; it is against freedom. Let
people know; let Christian youth know who Muhammad was as
we in the Third World (?know about) Christ because He is
mentioned in the Koran and no one can change this. We know
how He was born to His mother Mary, (Heron's) sister, [words
indistinct], the story of Moses. We know where Mary came from
and where Jesus, Mary's son, came from, how He was born, spoke
to people, and how He disappeared. We are free; we can adopt
Christianity if we want, and we know who Muhammad really
was and who Jesus really was. However, you in Europe give the
youth false information on the Islamic religion, motivated by the
crusaders, racism, and fanaticism. This is reactionism, igno-
rance, fanaticism, and against freedom. Societies which monop-
olize religious knowledge are also reactionary, fanatical,
ignorant, and against Freedom. They are societies which distort
other people's religion and culture; Arab and Islamic cultures are
distorted in Europe for political motives. This is a fanatical,
reactionary, and antifreedom action; it does not allow a person
access to true knowledge so that he can choose, (words indistinct]
freedom. Societies that prohibit materialist knowledge are reac-
tionary, fanatical, ignorant, and against freedom. These societies
prevent [words indistinct] other people's right to knowledge; they
do not allow the use of the atom for peaceful purposes, [word
indistinct] sea, nor solar energy.
This is fanaticism, ignorance, reactionaryism, and an action
against freedom. Societies that prohibit materialist knowledge
are reactionary, fanatical, ignorant, and antifreedom societies.
Societies that monopolize materialist knowledge are reactionary,
fanatical, ignorant, and against freedom, such as when the
United States prevented Libyan students from studying space,
aviation, nuclear physics; it stopped them. This is ignorance; this
is against science. Space, nuclear physics, and aviation are
sciences [word indistinct] it is possible to use for peace, cooper-
ation, happiness, and freedom. The United States issues an order
preventing Libyan students studying space, nuclear physics,
andaviation - this is the height of crudeness, ugliness, and [word
indistinct]. Societies that monopolize materialist knowledge are
reactionary, biased towards ignorance and against freedom.
Knowledge is every man's right and no one has the right to
deprive him of it in any country, unless a person commits an act
[words indistinct]; that is if a person commits an act that would
take him to prison, of course, he may learn something [word
indistinct] the knowledge. (?The objective) here is to control him
so he does not harm [society] with this knowledge. Ignorance ends
when everything is presented truthfully, and when knowledge is
accessible to every person [words indistinct]. Every person has
(?his own talent); some in drawing, some in [word indistinct],
some in reading, some in clothing. The disabled, the healthy,
men, women, old and young, everyone should be offered
(?knowledge) in the way that suits them. There is uo specific
[word indistinct] way, and [words indistinct] forced to reach this
way. [Sentence indistinct].This is an (?analytical) and
philosophical action education in the Jamahiri society which
should now exist in Libya. [Sentence as heard]
We talk about social order in Libya, and we also talk about [word
indistinct] and arts. People should protect their heritage, [musi-
cal]compositions, notes which suit them, and should not be forced
to grasp or enjoy (word indistinct] other people's compositions or
notes, because these are related to language and taste and cannot
be imposed.
Sports, horsemanship, and [word indistinct] in the Jamahiri
system (?if .t existed) in Libya would abolish wrestling and
boxing; wrestling [words indistinct] people wrestling each other,
bull-fighting, and fighting between other animals, and boxing -
this is a barbaric act and a campaign should be launched in the
world to abolish wrestling, boxing, and torturing animals, jump-
ingand fighting each other as they do in Europe -cock-Fighting,
bull-fighting, horse jumping.
[Unidentified speaker]: We have informed you that at the end we
did not [word indistinct]. We thought that it would be possible to
(?make time for) you to contribute to our seminar and ask you a
few questions. [n fact the majority of us who know the Green
Book [word indistinct] Libya is unchallenged. Even though it may
be unknown, or even [words indistinct], those who have come here
today have come to complete their knowledge, and have worked
throughout the past 3 days. If you kindly agree to stay with us
for half an hour, we will present these questions, a series of
questions which I believe did not reach you due to poor commu-
nications. The questions are on four issues, the issues that are the
subjects of our seminar: the history of religion and modern
history of the Libyan Jamahiriyah and its ideology, which are
basically known to the majority of us. The other issue is the
development. process, which raises many questions, and I will
mention some of them; for exan-ple, the current state of your
programs and the results of the oil crisis, and the crisis in the
capitalist world as a whole. To what extenC would your plans be
affected or changed in view of the fact that your plans are to
promote national independence and develop all parts and sectors
of the country and the economy? We ask you precisely how your
Jamahiri democracy would be able, by its unity or the unity of
its committees, to achieve quick results and have adequate infor-
mation in aworld that is changing rapidly and in a country, which
you yourself say, does not have an administration or government?
[f you like, we will embark on other problems which concern your
agriculture and [words indistinct] but we will not have enough
time. Your Excellency, Colonel, 1 have asked you questions. If
you could enlighten us about them, we would be grateful to you.
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your question. Naturally, the world economic crisis has affected
us all and the oil exporting countries have suffered. In a country
like Libya, where there recently was a revolution, (?which was
dependent on oil) and did not have enough time to compensate
for oil with other alternatives, we are now moving, with difficulty,
to (?develop) alternatives to oil. [Words indistinct] the rev-
olutionary objective is to develop firm and lasting alternatives to
oil for the Libyan people. However, the prevalent consumption
mentality was brought about by the capitalist group and the
imperialist world and created this consumption mentality. It is
difficult for us to break through toward production, away from
[words indistinct] of consumption, and, indeed, we are facing a
problem regarding this. However, with the establishment of the
Jamahiri system, People's Congresses and People's Committees,
people will look after themselves and will shoulder their respon-
sibilities. The Libyan people are a part of People's Congresses,
and with the help of the People's Committees of People's Con-
gresses, because People's Congresses are composed of all the
people, the common people. [sentence as heard]
As for People's Committees, they are composed of administrative
leadership, technicians, administrators, and experts who are used
by the People's.Congresses in the People's Committees to imple-
ment their resolutions [words indistinct]. Congresses decide
whatever they want and the committees implement whatever the
congresses want [words indistinct]. The Libyan people, in their
People's Congresses and People's ,Committees, put two issues
forward: this is oil, this is the quantity of oil exported by Libya,
this is the price, and these are [words indistinct] their needs and
requirements [words ?indistinct] their income and requirement,
and try to define supply and demand. This is better than if there
was a governmental system which makes decisions that surprise
the people. This is the cause of the .failure of governments;
governments which have never decided anything for the benefit
of the people. But people were not aware of economic problems
[words indistinct]. Even in Europe socialist governments were
ousted and capitalist governments took over; capitalist govern-
ments were ousted and socialist governments took over, and vice
versa and [words indistinct]. In the Jamahiri system people take
responsibility for themselves and there is no government to be
ousted; there is no party to be blamed. People know their income,
their efforts, and their needs [words indistinct]. Libya has not
suffered a political crisis like countries that have governments
and parliaments. There is no government that could be blamed
and ousted, and there is no parliament from which we can
withdraw confidence, or a government from which parliament
can withdraw confidence. There is no parliament that can be
dissolved in order to hold new elections. There are permanant
People's Congresses, which include all the people, and People's
Committees, which change continually. People's Committees can
be changed for others. There is no political crisis in the Jamahiri
system. Even workers do not go on strike or stage demonstrations
because they are partners in production. Workers in Libya are
partners and not hired. [Sentence indistinct]. The Jamahri system
is luckier than all other systems in fgcing crises because people
decide their destiny and know everything; they decide everything.
a Government may be forced to withdraw subsidies from some
basic commodities [words indistinct]; people may be surprised by
the rise in the price of basic commodities and stage demonstra-
tions, and the government is ousted (words indistinct]. The gov-
ernment may withhold payment of wages and salaries because it
does not have the income, and suddenly people find that their
wages have fallen, and they stage demonstrations to oust the
government. Another government is established and the former
government has no sky from which gold falls, and the crisis
continues. Crises continue in many countries despite changes of
government due to this reason. [n the Jamahiri system the
congresses decide whether to lower wages, increase wages, lower
[the price of] commodities, raise commodities. Libya is a country
in which society is complex. [Words indistinct], it is backward,
among backward countries, and on the other hand, luckily, when
there is a world crisis, it is not a complex society from an
economic perspective. It will not be held back. I do not think that
Libya would be held back by an economic crisis; it will pass
easily. I tried to answer this only from an ideological view. Thank
you.
AI-Qadhdhafi Receives Moroccan, UAE Envoys
LD252224 Tripoli Voice oI Creaser Arab Homeland
in Arabic 2l lS CMT 25 Oct 85
[Text] The leader of the Great September Revolution today
received the Moroccan king's envoy, Ahmed Reda Guedira, and
the UAE oil minister, Mani` Said al-Utaybah, who have been
sent by King Hassan II of Morocco and the UAE president,
Shaykh Zayid bin Sultan AI-Nuhayyan.
AI-Qadhdhafi Receives Junblatt, Diouf Letters
LD27004/ Tripoli Voice o,/'Creater Arab Homeland
in Arabic 2/ lS CMT 26 Oct 85
[Text] The brother leader of the great AI-Fatih Revolution has
received a letter from brother Walid Junblatt, president of the
Socialist Progressive Party and head of Lebanon's National
Democratic Front, connected with events in Lebanon.
The brother leader of the revolution has received a letter from
Senegalese President Abdou Diouf, the current chairman of the
OAU.
YSP Delegation Arrives in Tripoli 27 Oct
LD280032 Tripoli JANA in Arabic 1645 GMT 27 Oct 85
[Text] Tripoli, 27 Oct (JANA) -Brother `Abd al-Ghani `Abd
al-Qadir, member of the Political Bureau of the Yemeni Socialist
Party in the PDRY, and a delegation accompanying him arrived
in Tripoli this afternoon for a visit to the Socialist People's Libyan
Arab Jamahiriyah.
In a statement to JANA brother `Abd al-Ghani said that his visit
came in the framework of contacts existing between the two
fraternal countries the Jamahiriyah and the PDRY.
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