AL-QADHDHAFI INTERVIEWED ON TERRORISM

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under the leadership of the Polisario Front, their sole legitimate
representative, for the recovery of their national rights."
They remain convinced that the solution to the West Saharan
question lies in immediate and full implementation of OAU
Resolution AHG 104 and in adhering to the decisions and
resolutions of the Nonaligned Movement and the United
Nations.
With regard to the Middle East, the two ministers expressed their
support for the Palestinian people's struggle led by the PLO and
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"They condemned Israel's warlike and expansionist policy and
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They expressed their deep concern over the continuation of the
war between Iran and Iraq, member-countries of the Nonaligned
Movement.
The Mozambique foreign minister praised Algeria's solidarity
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"The two ministers analyzed the conclusions of the last meeting
of the Algerian-Mozambique joint cooperation commission,
which took place in Algiers. They expressed satisfaction with the
results achieved and showed a desire to see the decisions made
successfully implemented.
"On behalf of the delegation accompanying him and on his own
account, the Algerian foreign minister thanked the Mozambique
side for the warm and fraternal welcome given to it during its
visit to the People's Republic of Mozambique.
"His Excellency Ahmed Taleb Ibrahimi invited his counterpart,
His Excellency Joaquim Alberto Chissano, to make an official
friendly visit to the Democratic and Popular Republic of Algeria.
"The invitation was accepted with pleasure. The dates will be
fixed through diplomatic channels.
Mauritanian President Departs After Talks
LDI 72001 Algiers Domestic Service in Arabic
1200 GMT 16 Jan 86
[Text] Colonel Maayouia Ould Taya, chairman of the National
Committee and president of Mauritania, accompanied by his
wife, left Algeria this morning at the end of his working and
friendship visit. They were seen off at Houari Boumediene
International Airport by President and FLN Secretary General
Chadli Bendjedid and his wife, and by FLN Political Bureau
member and minister of Justice Boualem Baki; Minister of
Commerce Abdelaziz Khellef; Deputy Minister in Charge of
Cooperation Noureddin Harbi; Deputy Minister in Charge of
Budget and Public Property Moustapha Ben Ammar; head of
international affairs and cooperation at the President's Office,
Abdelkader [name indistinct]; and the ambassadors of the two
countries.
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The two presidents held political talks in camera this morning.
Earlier they had political talks attended by the members of both
delegations.
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Al-(adkdllafJInterviewed on Terrorism
AU221:~31 Vienna KURIER in German 22 Jan 86 p 5
["First part" of "exclusive" interview given by Libyan Rev-
olution leader Al-Qadhdhafi to KURIER reporter Heinz Nuss-
baumer in a tent "south of Tripoli" - date not given]
[Text) [Nussbaumer] "Colonel, up to now the Austrians have
believed that their sympathy for the fate of the Palestinians
would protect them from terrorism - was that naive?"
[Al-Qadhdhafi] "Support of a just cause can never be naive. By
the way, the Palestinians know my attitude very well: There
must be no Palestinian actions in Vienna. I will now tell you
something which up to now only a few people in Austria have
known: In contacts, the Austrians informed us that they had
received threats from Abu Nidal; some Palestinian prisoners in
Vienna (the terrorists involved in the attack on the Vienna
Synagogue and the murder of Heinz Nittel - KURIER) were
to be freed by force. When we heard that, we told the Palestinian
leaders: Please, don't do that."
[Nussbaumer]"Was that before or after the Schwechat drama?"
[AI-Qadhdhafi] "Before, of course. We clearly told the Palestin-
ians that the release of these people must be attempted through
negotiations, not by force. We did not want this to happen in a
friendly country. But they did it, all the same - presumably in
order to get the prisoners out."
[Nussbaumer] "...But they did not say that during and after the
attack..."
[Al-Qadhdhafi] "Probably because their operation failed right at,
the beginning."
[Nussbaumer] "Do you actually share the view that the murder
of innocent people must be punished?
[A]-Qadhdhafi] "This is a difficult matter. I believe these people
cannot be assessed by the yardstick of conventional law. If we
want to do that, then we must do it everywhere. Then the Israelis
who committed genocide in Lebanon must be sentenced under
Lebanese law - that would probably mean a death sentence for
Arik Sharon (Israel's former defense minister - KURIER).
Then the Israeli pilots who bombed Tunis would also have to be
sentenced under Tunisian law."
[Nussbaumer] "Are you ready to declare publicly: `Although
I support the Palestinian cause I do not support actions such as
those in Vienna and Rome, nor people such as Abu Nidal - for
this is sheer terrorism'?"
[Al-Qadhdhafi] "This is another of those difficult problems. We
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as states are bound by norms of law - but who can restrict people
such as the Palestinians and convince them not to do something?
I am against terrorism - the true terrorists are indeed the
Israelis - but the principle prevails: Here is someone fighting
for a just cause. As long as they are doing that, I am going to
support them."
[Nussbaumer] "Regardless of what they do?"
[Al-Qadhdhafi] "Let me make myself quite clear once more:
The criterion for our support is their just cause, not their deeds.
And there is no getting away from that. The Americans do not
ask the Israeli Government, either, what it does with the weapons
that come from the United States. Take the Palestinians: Do
you really believe they would tell us in advance the details of their
operations? I am telling you: They don't do that."
[Nussbaumer]"Let us try a different approach: Next time you
see Abu Nidal, what are you going to tell him'?
[Al-Qadhdhafi] "I have already pointed out that we have
appealed to the Palestinian groups not to use force to achieve the
release of the prisoners in Vienna. Everything else is their busi-
ness and their responsibility - not ours. We discuss neither the
tactics nor the details of their operations."
[Nussbaumer]"And Rome and Vienna have not altered anything
about this?
[Al-Qadhdhafi] "No, because the Palestinians act regardless of
whether or not we accept it. From their viewpoint their struggle
serves the resolution of their problem - regardless about how
we feel about it."
[Nussbaumer] "Colonel, let me remind you of two remarks you
have made. The first: 'if Abu Nidal is a terrorist, then George
Washington was also a terrorist.' And the second: '[F the
United States attacks, then we will have millions of Abu Nidals.'
If I interpret your words correctly, then you regard Abu Nidal
not as a terrorist but as a freedom fighter..."
[Nussbaumer] "But this is precisely the problem we are having
with you..."
[Al-Qadhdhafi] "Abu Nidal is Abu Nidal. What happened in
Vienna and Rome is quite a different matter..."
[Nussbaumer] "Do you mean to say that it is not Abu Nidal who
is responsiole for Vienna and Rome?"
[Al-Qadhdhafi] "As far as I know, to this day there is at any rate
no proof that Abu Nidal is to blame. Who has any evidence'? But
even if your assumption were correct - I am only saying this for
the sake of argument - then this would still not mean that Abu
Nidal was not a legitimate leader of a Palestinian group. For, if
your logic were to apply, then this would also make the U.S.
Government, which supports Israel, not a legitimate government
but a terrorist government."
[Nussbaumer] "Once more: We had in Vienna a tragedy with
Austrian victims, and Abu Nidal was the presumable wirepuller.
Our problem is that you regard this man as a freedom fighter..."
[Al-Qadhdhafi] "I insist on my distinction between those who
have attacked in Rome and Vienna and Abu Nidal. And I am
taking the liberty to remark: The responsibility of the Israelis
for the most terrible things in Lebanon, where tanks simply rolled
over cars packed with refugees' families, is indeed far more
obvious than the responsibility of Abu Nidal for the attacks in
Vienna and Rome."
[Nussbaumer] "But the Austrians have nothing whatever to do
with the Middle East conflict...."
[Al-Qadhdhafi] "Nor have the Lebanese and the Tunisians."
[Nussbaumer] "But at least they belong in the conflict region..."
[Al-Qadhdhafi] "Perhaps we should glance at the map: Austria
is presumably closer to Palestine than Tunisia."
[Nussbaumer] "Except Tunisia, where the PLO has its headquar-
ters, is politically closer to the Middle East conflict than Aus-
tria..."
[Al-Qadhdhafi] "I am telling you once more: The Tunisian
Government, of all governments, was and is most certainly not
part of the Middle East conflict."
[Nussbaumer] "Speaking of that: Tunisian authorities
declared immediately after the drama of Vienna that the terror-
ists' passports had been stolen from Tunisian guest workers in
Libya, or had been taken away from them before they were
thrown out of the country. Have you any evidence whether these
assertions are correct or false?"
[Al-Qadhdhafi] "This is really quite a ridiculous matter - I do
not want to bother with it. This is a matter for immigration
authorities, or police, or secret services-or, best of all, the police
department in charge of faked passports. I tell you honestly:
That is the first time I have heard about this story, from you."
[Nussbaumer] "After the Schwechat attack there were many
who said the Palestinians gave a real slap in the face to Bruno
Kreisky's policy of friendship with the Arabs. Are you aware of
it?"
[Al-Qadhdhafi] "A man like Kreisky, who supports a just cause,
cannot pursue any wrong policy. I am convinced that he has not
adopted his attitude because he wants to be thanked and honored
for it. He who believes in a cause also reckons with criticism and
some defeats - but this will certainly not alter anything about
his belief in justice."
[Nussbaumer] "Thus, do you regard it as conceivable that one of
the motives behind the Vienna attack might be the deliberate
attempt to destroy Kreisky's Middle East policy?"
[Al-Qadhdhafi] "We don't know what these people wanted. We
don't know what was going on in their heads. They do not ask
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Arab governments for permission, indeed they do not even ask
their own leaders. They can do a?hundred such things in a day,
without contacting the headquarters of their group."
[Nussbaumer] "A ticklish question: Which sector of the Arab
world could be partly responsible for the attacks of Vienna and
Rome, or could have been helpful behind the scenes?"
[Al-Qadhdhafi] "1 don't think that any country in the Arab world
is responsible for it. The Palestinians have done this, they alone
have to take the consequences. For actions such as these they do
not need any tanks, airplanes, or submarines. Believe me: A
Kalashnikov gun can be found anywhere."
Al-Qadhdhafi Speaks With YAR's Salih 22 Jan
LD221352 Tripoli Domestic Service in Arabic
1330 GMT 22 Jan 86
[Text] The brother leader of the Great Fatah Revolution had a
telephone conversation this morning with Brother 'Ali `Abdallah
Salih, president of the YAR. They discussed the development of
the situation in the PDRY.
The brother leader of the revolution has received a cable from
Ethiopian President Haile Mariam Mengistu dealing with the
development of the situation in the PDRY.
Major Jallud Press Conference on U.S. `Terrorism' .
LD221303 Tripoli Television Service in Arabic
2040 GMT 21 Jan 86 F
[Press conference by Staff Major 'Abd al-Salam Ahmad(allud)
with foreign and local journalists on 16. January; place not given;
questions in English followed by Arabic translation except where
indicated - recorded]
[Text] [Jallud] At the beginning of the meeting, I would like to
emphasize the following points:
First, no power on earth can eliminate us politically and
revolutionarily speaking. We may be eliminated physically, but
not politically, for example. No power, neither Reagan nor the
Reagan administration, can defeat us psychologically: We can-
not budge an inch from any position we take or belief we harbor..
Our position on the causes of freedom is a principle, and the most
sacred struggle on earth is the struggle of the Palestinian people
and the struggle of the people of South Africa. . . . .
The second point is that I hope that you have been shown that
the claims that the problem is with Al-Qadhdhafi are untrue, and
that you have noticed that all the Libyan people are bracing
themselves for confrontation. I personally believe in all the ideas
put forward by the brother colonel, and that I would die in
defense of these ideas. The fact.that the mass media, Reagan,
and the terrorist Reagan administration are trying to pretend
that the problem is with Al-Qadhdhafi cannot be believed by
anyone.
Colonel Mu'ammar al-Qadhdhafi represents a state of mind of
the youth in the Arab world, Africa, the world, and even in the
United States itself. He represents a mass uprising to confront
the United States and U.S. arrogance; All revolutionaries in
Libya, the Arab world, Africa, and in the world are Mu'ammar
al-Qadhdhafi. I
The United States knows, the U.S. Administration and Reagan
know that neither Al-Qadhdhafi nor the Libyan people are
terrorists, but to the U.S. Administration and to Reagan,
standing with the liberation movements and resisting the United
States is terrorism, and resisting U.S. arrogance is also terrorism.
The Arab nation knows that the United States is hostile to us
because the United States ishostile to the aspirations of the Arab
nation for unity, liberation of Palestine, building of socialism, and
the incitement undertaken by the brother colonel of the popular
masses. . .
Furthermore, it is clear that the terrorist administration headed
by Reagan has tried to isolate Libya, but we now find that the
United States is isolated. Now all people, all the democratic
forces, are with Libya against the United States, and now
Reagan is the one isolated in the black house.
We cannot be isolated and we cannot be besieged because the
revolution can neither be isolated nor besieged. The fact is that
Reagan, the terrorist Reagan administration, know that AI-
Qadhdhafi does not carry explosives or guns, but he carries ideas
that herald better for the world and the peoples of the world, and
these ideas are stronger than bombs and fleets. Ideas are more
powerful than missiles and tanks and more powerful than even
the atom that Reagan possesses. The Libyan people are a small
people and cannot be besieged economically. A U.S. blockade
would benefit it; it would lead our people to seek to feed and dress
themselves with their own means.
Even if the Western states blackmail us and submit to the U.S.
line, we are ready to switch our trade to the socialist states, to the
Soviet Union and China. We reject blackmail and the linking of
the Libyan people with terrorism. The Libyan people are the
greatest victims of the terrorism of the U.S. Administration.
We think that there is an invitation available for newsmen 'to visit
Libya, any place they may want to visit, to see for themselves
that Libya has farms, plants, and schools. They would see things
other than what Ronald Reagan told the Americans about
terrorist camps. They would see factories, farms, schools, hospi-
tals. I want to underline another important point: The U.S.
Administration and Reagan have no right, no legitimacy, and no
ability to attack the Libyan people. It is not true that Reagan can
attack us but that he just does not want to. He has neither the
right nor ability to do so.
A very important point: We reject the viewpoints of Reagan and
the U.S. White House on terrorism. We believe that the United
Nations Organization is the one entitled to define what terrorism
is, and ways of facing up to terrorism. We have called for this
since the seventies. I want to stress that all the revolutionary
forces in Libya, all the masses in Libya, all the revolutionary
forces in the Arab world, all the Arab masses, all the youth and
revolutionaries in Africa, all the popular masses in Africa and
throughout the world are with Mu'ammar al-Qadhdhafi. You
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have seen on television screens and through the mass media the
millions that had come out for Al-Qadhdhafi in Senegal, Mali,
Ghana, and Burkina Faso. They came out to welcome Al-
Qadhdhafi. This is an answer to Reagan's lie that Mu'ammar
al-Qadhdhafi is a terrorist. It has never happened before in
Africa's history that millions go out to welcome one person. I do
not believe they were forced to do so. It was clear from their faces
and gestures that they came out on their own volition. In fact,
Reagan is not facing Mu'ammar al-Qadhdhafi. He is facing a
state of revolution, a popular movement due to Al-Qadhdhafi's
ideas, throughout the world.
It is time for the American people to understand the truth, and
time for the U.S. Administration to stop describing people's
struggle as terrorism and liberation movements as terrorists. The
United States, the Reagan administration, the Pentagon and
U.S. intelligence are the theoreticians of terrorism and the ones
who actually practice terrorism. Reagan himself has tried to get
Al-Qadhdhafi assassinated. Lumumba, Allende, and many
strugglers were assassinated by the U.S. Administration and
U.S. intelligence. Lumumba, Allende, etc.
We have faith in ourselves and we know what we are doing. The
U.S. Administration cannot defeat us psychologically or make us
doubt ourselves. Thank you.
Will this be published in the mass media?
[Unidentified speaker] Yes.
[Jallud] All right.
[Question] [Sentence indistinct]
[Translator] A question from the NBC network. The question
says: When did President Reagan attempt to get Col al-
Qadhdhafi assassinated?
[Jallud] [Words indistinct]
[Translator in English] The answer: This was published in the
mass media, the newspapers.
[Jallud] This is known.
[Correspondent in English, no translation) I did not get to read
it. I was...
[Jallud, interrupting] And the most recent news about this was
what THE WASHINGTON POST published about the attempt,
the U.S. plan.
[Correspondent in English] I do not believe THE WASHING
TON POST story.
[Jallud] You are free to believe or not.
[Correspondent in English, no translation] But what are the
facts? What happened? Which is...
[Jallud, interrupting] The officers of U.S. intelligence, on orders .
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from Reagan and the director of intelligence, are the ones that
trained the terrorist groups that had entered Libya. They trained
them in Sudan; the U.S. officers trained them and they entered
with the aim of assassinating Col al-Qadhdhafi and striking vital
economic installations of the Libyan people. They were trained
under the supervision of U.S. intelligence. When Reagan says
that the problem is with Al-Qadhdhafi, this means that he has
Al-Qadhdhafi personally in mind and that he is preparing for a
terrorist act against Al-Qadhdhafi. He wants to convince the
public about this.
[Correspondent in English] Are you referring to a plot last
November or a plot before that?
[Jallud] That plot and also before that. There exists a decree, a
special decree for the poisoning of Al-Qadhdhafi.
[Correspondent] When was that?
[Jallud] A few years back. We can go back to...I have no exact
dates, but you can go back to facts. It has been published.
[Correspondent in English] Was there an assassination attempt
in November, 2 or 3 months ago?
[Jallud] No, there has not been an attempt. I did not say this. I
said that the preoccupation of Reagan, the U.S. Administration,
and U.S. intelligence is to liquidate Al-Qadhdhafi physically
through an act of terrorism.
[Al-Nadi (?Habib)] What are the steps that should be taken by
the Arab foreign ministers who are due to meet at the end of the
month regarding the U.S. threats and the hostile economic
measures recently taken by the U.S. Administration against
Libya?
[Jallud] This will be left for the Arab brothers to decide. We will
submit a working paper. We are in the same front, in the same
world.
[CBS correspondent in English] What is the number of Soviet
citizens working in Libya?
[Jallud] In fact, we have no permanent experts in Libya. I mean,
people come for a specified period, like someone who comes here
from the United States or it is like when we sign a contract for
building a power station and some people come here to build it
and train people to use it.
[David (?Grundy) from the SUNDAY TIMES in English] Is it
still your policy, Major, to liquidate the strayed dogs in Europe
and (?elsewhere) like in Egypt?
[Jallud] We do not give any importance to these people. We do
not even think about them because they are, in fact, a dead force,
I mean politically dead. We have no intention of doing so, as in
fact we do encourage them to return to Libya. But we do not,
however, guarantee that a revolutionary youth might not act of
his own initiative, which is not planned or decided by us.
[SUNDAY TIMES correspondent in English] So the attempts
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against former Prime Minister Bakkush in Egypt were purely the
work of volunteers? They were not ordered by the Libyan Gov-
ernment?
[Jallud] We guess that they were carried out by someone, whom
we do not know, or that they were the work of Egyptian intel-
ligence. _
[Judy Miller of THE NEW YORK TIMES in English] We have
heard for a while about the revolutionary committees and rev-
olutionary guards and, Col al-Qadhdhafi told us when he met
with us that he knew that there were some people in the Army,
in the established Armed Forces, who were unhappy about the
growing role of the revolutionary committees and the rev-
olutionary guards. That is what Col Al-Qadhdhafi told us.
Because Major Jallud is supervising these groups, can he please
tell us what exactly is their role in the military and in what
specific ways have they changed military policy?
[Jallud] The movement of the military revolutionary committee
is, in fact, part of the movement of the revolutionary committees
as a whole. They do stress the revolution, spread its ideas, and
revolutionize the Armed Forces. In a way, for example, they
would instigate the Armed Forces to train the people and to speed
up the elimination of the regular Army and the establishment of
the people's authority. They do not, however, have an official
mission to give order to that effect; they have to do it through
persuasion and instigation.
At the same time and because of the ideas they advocate, they
should give an example to the Armed Forces and thus make the
Armed Forces be in the service of the people and in the service
of the revolution as an unionist and revolutionary force, mobi-
lized for the liberation of Palestine. The traditional Army should
be eliminated as soon as possible. This can be achieved when the
level of the people's training matches the level of Army training.
It is an opportunity for you, and I am inviting you, to visit the
secondary schools and the faculties. Concerning the (?rev-
olutionary) guards, well it is the same everywhere. In each
country there is a guard, a royal guard, or a republican guards.
These guards are recruited to do their duties, for which they are
paid. It is the same thing here with us. We have a traditional
Jamahiri guard that is recruited to do its job for money. We want
to see an end to these traditional guards and the establishment
of the revolutionary Jamahiri guards, which will not be a perma-
nent force. I mean it will be formed from volunteers who will be
doing their usual jobs, farming, teaching, and studying. There
will be no ruler, president, or monarch that will need someone to
defend him. Therefore, a person will have to hire someone and
pay him. Then the security will be guaranteed by the people who
own the authority and the wealth and the weapons. Thus the
police will disappear, as well as the regular guards and the
regular army.
I do not know how U.S. intelligence gathered that there is
resentment in the Army. Sometimes they say it is because of some
economic measures, and some other times they say it is because
of the involvement of the revolutionary committees. We are
ready, in fact, (?to allow) them to visit any place that they would
like to visit. If you are really searching for the truth we are ready
to help you get the information as it is. Thank you.
[Norwegian TV correspondent in English] Where has the eco-
nomic war against Libya hurt you most?
[Jallud] In fact, since Reagan took office and even toward the end
of Carter's term, relations began to deteriorate. Now the problem
is a problem for the buyers and not the vendors; everyone is
looking for a market. I have read some statements made by
Europeans who said that the United States always begins a
boycott and then fails to see it through. That is what the Europe-
ans think. We have several agreements with some U.S. compan-
ies, which do contact us in defiance of such an order for a boycott.
Reagan has stated that the Libyans have been successful in
overcoming the U.S. blockade. All people are eager to find a
market. We have a 3-year plan, starting this year, which amounts
to 15 billion Libyan dinars, nearly 50 million dollars. Many
markets do rely upon the Libyan market, which is a stable market
because the Libyan regime is a stable regime, as the system of
the people's congresses and people's committees can not be
eliminated easily by anyone. The financial institutions, as you
might be aware of, have stated that the most successful measures
to overcome the economic crisis are the Libyan ones, and called
on other people to follow the Libyan example. We are not really
perturbed and, if Reagan wants confrontation with Libya, he will
have to confront the Arab nation from the (?Arabian) gulf to the
(?Atlantic) ocean, and we are determined to see this. He will have
.also to confront an Islamic confrontation because Reagan repre-
sents a new kind of crusade against Islam and Arabs. He thinks
that he can pick up the flags of European colonialism, which had
fallen, pick them up anew and challenge the Arab world. He
knows, however, that the people's consciousness will not permit
him to do so nor will it allow it. Thank you.
[Correspondent in English] Please, in the 3-year plan, what does
the 15 billion dollars mean?
[Jallud] The expenditure of the 3-year plan.
[NEW YORK TIMES correspondent in English] Earlier on the
colonel said that Libya was studying a possible response to the
U.S. decision to freeze Libyan assets in the United States. (?Has'
there been) a decision on whether or not Libya will freeze U.S.
assets?
[Jallud] The decision is in the hands of the people's congresses,
which have the right to make such decisions. The congresses are
now in session and a decision might follow. Also, some finance
and economic experts are studying the matter. The final decision
will, however, be in the hands of congresses.
[Correspondent in English] Major Jallud, this is a question that
I know I should ask Col al-Qadhdhafi, but we heard the speech
that he made yesterday, on the (?birthday) anniversary of the late
President Jamal `Abd al-Nasir, in which he told the guerrillas
that he will be willing to train them in Libya on terrorist and
suicide mission. Could you please tell us what Col al-Qadhdhafi
or what you believe Col al-Qadhdhafi meant by this statement
last night?.
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[Jallud] First of all, I would say that Col al-Qadhdhafi did not
say terrorist attack, he said suicide attack.
[Female correspondent, in English] He said irhabiyyah [terrorist];
I am sorry...
[Jallud, interrupting] The United States decided on confrontation
against us. It was inevitable that we should take [word indistinct]
Mu'ammar al-Qadhdhafi does not belong to the Libyan people
alone, but to the entire Arab nation, Islamic and African world.
We have received cables from tens of thousands of volunteers
(?expecting to come here). This is because they regard the battle
against the United States as their own battle. If we see that the
United States is continuing with the confrontation, then we will
begin the mobilization. What do you want us to do? We have not
gone to the United States. The United States has come to us.
Now there are tens of thousands of Arab, African, and Muslim
youths awaiting orders to come to Libya to be trained on suicidal
fedayeen operations. This is because if war breaks out against the
United States it will not be limited; it will be comprehensive. We
put full responsibility in this regard on the U.S. President and
the U.S. Administration. The whole world should be aware of
that. We are not responsible whatsoever. Any (?development) will
be the responsibility of Reagan and the U.S. Administration. The
lie being spread by Reagan and the U.S. Administration about
Mu'ammar al-Qadhdhafi or the Libyan people will not deceive
the Arab nation, nor will it deceive the (?American) or the
African peoples. If the confrontation begins, then it will be
comprehensive. It will be without any restriction. Even from the
religious point of view [words indistinct]. We are not (?racists).
[words indistinct] We shall not be handcuffed [words indistinct].
[Correspondent in English] Could I ask the major [words indis-
tinct] some clarification that the Tunisian passports found on the
terrorists responsible for the massacre at Rome airport had been
in fact taken from Tunisians in Libya; what has he to say about
that?
[Jallud] This is a very ridiculous excuse. We have lost 11,000 lost
passports. We have informed the Italian Government about that.
[words indistinct] It is not a problem. Anyhow, the Tunisian
Government has not informed Interpol about these passports.
This is a naive excuse. Those people [the terrorists at Rome
airport] have no real passports; they have not come (?to) Libya
and have not been trained in Libya. [words indistinct] unless there
is a premeditated (?intention) to attack Libya. We have a Libyan
proverb which says [words indistinct] then you will find them.
Therefore, these are funny and naive (?accusations). Even you,
who asked the question, are not convinced of your own question.
(?Those who are behind the) passports are the U.S. authorities.
U.S. intelligence is an expert on this.
[Correspondent, in English] Major Jallud, what is your relation-
ship with Abu Nidal? We have heard a lot of rumors about him
living here. Could you say exactly what the relationship is? I
mean with his organization?
Q 7 NORTH AFRICA
[words indistinct].
People's Congress Urges Spain To Cancel Decision
LD222011 Tripoli JANA in Arabic 1930 GMT 22 Jan 86
[Text] Tripoli, 22 Jan (JANA) - The Permanent Secretariat of
the Arab People's Congress has stressed, in a statement concern-
ing the Spanish Government's decision to recognize the Zionist
enemy, that this step taken by the Gonzalez government will
encourage the Zionist enemy to carry out new criminal practices
against the unarmed civilian Arabs in occuped Palestine and
Lebanon.
The secretariat urged the Spanish Government in its statement
issued Wednesday to cancel its decision. It also urged the Arab
League to shoulder its responsibilities so that this decision does
not become valid and so encourage some African and European
countries to recognize the Zionist entity.
The Permanent Secretariat of the Arab People's Congress also
appealed, in its statement, to Spanish public opinion regarding
this attitude that has harmed Spanish-Arab relations, stressing
the Arab nation's historic relations with Spain and stating that
these relations cannot be monopolized by any government and
that we shall struggle alongside the Spanish people to alter this
stance.
`Most' Basic People's Congresses Conclude Debates
LD221644 Tripoli JANA in Arabic 1540 GMT 22 Jan 86
[Text] Tripoli, 22 Jan (JANA) - Most basic people's congresses
have now concluded debates here regarding items on their
agenda at their third ordinary session for 1395 after the prophet's
demise, corresponding to 1986. The Libyan masses have devoted
their latest meetings to discussions of the U.S. crusade-type
conspiracy against Libya, and the economic measures announced
by Reagan, aimed at containing the Muslim Arab Libyan peo-
ple's ambitions in the service of Muslims and in confronting their
enemies.
On the other hand, Arab citizens present in the Jamahiriyah have
echoed one another and held Arab congresses throughout Libya,
at which they affirmed their readiness to die in defense of the
Islamic al-Fatih revolution, and to confront all crusade-type
attempts aiming to impugn the Arab and Islamic role played by
the Arab Libyan people throughout the world.
Muslim `Jihad Battalions' To Be Formed for Defense
LD222000 Tripoli JANA in English 1907 GMT 22 Jan 86
[Text] Tripoli, Jumada Awal 10, Jan 22, JAMAHIRIYAH
NEWS AGENCY - The meeting of East Africa's callers,
which was held recently in the capital of Burundi, Bujumbura,
declared its solidarity and standing by the Muslim people of
[Jallud] We back the detachments of the Palestinian revolution, 'Jamahiriyah in its confrontation with the brutal crusade which
as the brother colonel said. People change. We are not guardians the leader of international terrorism - America - launches
over the Palestinians. We are not responsible for their actions. against the Islamic Al-Fatih September Revolution because it is
As for the liberation of Palestine it is our own responsibility the invincible bastion of Islam repulsing all the attacks of the
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