LIBYAN SAYS THE U.S. KILLED 56

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Libyan Says the U.S. Killed "56
CAIRO, April 8 (AP) - Libya's top
military commander was quoted by a
weekly Egyptian newspaper today as
saying American missiles killed 56 peo-
ple in the Gulf of Sidra fighting.
The military official, Brig. Abu-Bakr,
Younis, Commander in Chief of Libya'sj
armed forces, was quoted by Al Shaab,`,
an organ of Egypt's opposition Socialist
Labor Party. It said the remarks were
made to a Labor Party delegation that
visited Libya last week.
In the first known Libyan estimate of
casualties from the clashes on March
24-25, Brigadier Younis was quoted as.
saying 56 people "were martyred."
He was quoted as saying United
States warplanes hit a Libyan' fishing
boat with rockets and a tugboat sent
into the gulf to "rescue some seamen."
He did not explain why any rescue mis
sion was necessary.
The Reagan Administration has said
American forces sunk at least two
Libyan fast attack craft and attacked a
missile base after Libya fired SAM-5
missiles at American warplanes over,
the gulf.
The report also quoted the Libyan
leader, Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, as
saying Libya's fight against the United
States is "escalating everywhere."
The report said that when asked
whether the confrontation with the
United States had ended, Colonel Qad-
daft replied, "Never."
"It has ended temporarily in front f
the Gulf of Sidra, but the battle agai j,
America is escalating everywhere,'! .6
was quoted as saying. "It began in the
Gulf of Sidra, yes, to make America un-
derstand that this gulf has brought. it
nothing but a worldwide curse and that
the earth Is shaking under its feet
everywhere because of its idiptic and?
unjust policy against small peoples.".
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West Germany Is Expelling
Two of Libya's Diplomats
BONN, April 9 - The West German
Government announced today that it
was expelling two Libyan diplomats for
"activities incompatible with their dip-
lomatic status."
A Government spokesman declined
to link the two Libyans to the bombing
Saturday of a West Berlin discotheque
in which an American soldier and a
Turkish woman were killed and 230
others wounded.
But there was speculation here that
the expulsion was a response to Amer-
ican pressure to react to what Washing-
ton has said is clear evidence of the
Libya's instigation of terrorist acts.
The Government spokesman, Fried-
helm Ost, said Bonn had "indications
but no concrete proof" that the Libyan
mission in East Berlin was implicated
in the bombing of the La Belle disco-
theque, which was frequented by black
Americans and foreigners from third
world countries.
expelled two Libyan diplomats who in-
telligence officials said were planning
anti-American terrorist operations.
The West German expiusions, which
were announced by Foreign Minister
Hans-Dietrich Genscher at the Cabinet
meeting, appeared to be a minimal
gesture to appease the United States
without touching off a confrontation
with the Government of Col. Muammar
el-Qaddafi.
No Economic Sanctions
There is evident concern in the Koh'
Government that failure to adopt con-'
vincing measures might encourage the
United States to take military action
against Libya. But advisers to Chancel-
lor Kohl have made it clear that Bonn
will not adopt economic sanctions
against Libya, where 1,500 West Ger-
mans work.
In West Berlin, American, British
and French diplomats have been dis-
cussing measures to ban the 11 mem-
bers of the Libyan embassy in East
Berlin from crossing to the western
side of the city. But, according to West-
ern diplomats, technical objections by
the French side have delayed a deci-?
Sion by the allied command.
The command announced today that
"exceptional measures" would be
taken to insure the security of the city,
which the diplomats said presaged the
banning of the Libyan diplomats.
In February, the allied command,
which by postwar statute nominally
has control over the whole city of Ber-
lin, banned four North Korean diplo-
mats from entering West Berlin be-
cause of their suspected involvement in
smuggling American helicopter parts
to the east. The Soviet Union aban-
doned the command in 1948, but the
three NATO powers maintain a fiction
of four-power harmony by retaining the
`Should Get All Help Possible'
"We. will not allow our. American
friends to be bombed out or terrorized
out," Chancellor Helmut Kohl said at a
Cabinet meeting today, according to
his spokesman. "Our American friends
should get all the help possible to pro-
tect themselves and their families on
German soil."
Mr. Ost declined to identify the two
diplomats, but other officials identified
them as Ahmed Omar Issa and Mah-
mud Ahmed Shibani. An American dip-
lomat said they were two of six mem-
bers of the so-called Libyan People's
Bureau here "with definite terrorist
connections."
The diplomat said the two Libyans
were not directly implicated in the
bombing but were known to have been
involved in planning terrorist actions
against Americans in West Germany.
A West German intelligence source
said Mr. Issa had replaced Amin Ab-
dullah el-Amin, who had shifted from
the Bonn mission to the one in East
Berlin and who has been mentioned as
a possible Suspect in the discotheque
bombing. The two Libyans were known
to have subsequently met in West Ber-
lin, the source said.
The Reagan Administration has fur-
nished Bonn and other friendly capitals
with intercepted messages to the
Libyan mission in East Berlin that are
said to demonstrate involvement in the
discotheque bombing, and Washington
has urged closing the North African na-
tion's embassies. On Sunday, France
Soviet offices in the institution.
Britain, France and the United 1
States face a formidable challenge in
checking the terrorist threat since ac-
cess to West Berlin is virtually uncon-
trolled - a gesture to the principle that
the city has been divided by the wall
but not by the Western powers. East
Berlin has a large resident Arab popu-
lation that moves freely between east
and west.
American diplomats have disclosed
that a week before the attack on the dis-
cotheque, the United States warned the
Soviet Union and East Germany of a
possible Libyan terrorist action in West
Berlin. Today East Germany took the
unusual step of expressing "disgust
and indignation" over the bombing and
denying any connection with it.
A Foreign Ministry spokesman
issued a statement that rejected at-
tempts to associate East Germany
"with this criminal act," adding, "The
hope is expressed that that such crimi-
nal operations will not be misused to
poison the international atmosphere."
In an apparent allusion to American
pressure on Libya, the statement said
East Germany "respects the absolute
right of every nation to choose its politi-
cal, economic and social system free of
any external interference and imperi-
alist dictate."
"At the same time," it said, "we are
of the opinion that individual acts of
terror serve the most aggressive im-
perialist circles as a pretext to dis-
credit revolutionary movements."
East Germany maintains close con-'
tacts with the Qaddafi regime, and
East German intelligence experts are
known to advise their Libyan counter-
parts.
East Germany, according to Western
diplomats, is concerned that the
Libyan issue could complicate East-
West relations and sour the atmos-
phere for a trip to West Germany later
this year by Erich Honecker, the East
German leader. Bonn announced today
that a landmark cultural agreement
between the two Germanys would be
signed next month.
East Germany also evidently wants
to avoid international embarrassment
since its ruling Communist Party will
hold a congress next week that will be
addressed by the Soviet leader, Mikhail
S. Gorbachev.
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Interview with Muammar Qadhafi
l am a mixture. of Washington and Lincoln'
Tripoli,
^ Western journalists jokingly call it "the bar scene from
`Star Wars' "-referring to the nightly gathering of wildly
assorted business people, mullahs, terrorists and advisers-
Soviet and otherwise-in the lobby of the posh Al Kabir
Hotel. "Everyone's waiting to see Qadhafi;" explains a Da-
mascus-based Kurdish rebel leader.
Many' don't make it. The Libya of Muammar Qadhafi,,
"the Leader," is no longer the fountain of money it once was
for salesmen of every description. Libya's more than 3 mil-
lion people are tightening their belts. Though the breadlines
of last year have all but disappeared,' freight cranes in the
port of Tripoli are idle, and Libyans queue up to buy every-
thing from disposable diapers to light bulbs. At least half the
shops on Tripoli's First of September Street have closed.
Those who do see Qadhafi are mostly certifiable "revolu-
tionary fighters." Despite a staggering drop in Libya's an-
nual oil revenues-at least $20 billion since the late '70s-
he continues to finance a long ' list of terrorist groups.
"There's been no slowdown in funds or backing for revolu-
Q Colonel Qadhafi, is there any way to break the stalemate
between the U.S. and Libya? -
When there is a change in the President of the United
States, there will be understanding not only between our two
countries but with other countries as well. Reagan now rep-
resents the interests of the Israelis, and he is under the influ-
ence of his foreign minister, who is an Israeli.'
Q But Secretary of State Shultz is an American, born in the U.S.-
He's sacrificing the interests of the Americans in favor of
the Israelis. The bombing raid on Libya was for the interests
of the Israelis, because there is no Libyan-American problem.
Q What you refer to as "support of liberation movements" Ameri-
cans see as terrorism-
What you view as ter-
rorism is the Palestinian
struggle for liberation
against the Israelis. And
whatever. Reagan is call-
ing terrorism is actually
a struggle of the peo-
ple's liberation move-
ment against terrorism.
What the Americans
'ire doing is a terrorist
act, and what the Israelis
tre doing is a terrorist
ct. What the Palestin-
ins, Nicaraguans, the
ebanese are doing-this
a liberation movement.
But this "struggle" re-
:ults in American deaths
Exactly. America will
be harmed because it in-
volved itself for the bene-
fit of the Israelis.
tion; says a Moscow-educated member of Georges Ha-
bash's Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. Nor is
there any lessening of the frenzied anti-Semitism and open
hatred of the Reagan administration that permeate both
government and public.
- The image of Qadhafi as terrorist leader has changed,
however, since-the U.S. air strike last April in retaliation for
a Libya-sponsored bombing in West Berlin. The image is no
less violent, but with the unmasking of Syria's Hafez Assad
as a calculating. manipulator of state terrorism who tries to
deny his role, Qadhafi appears as much an erratic cash cow
as a guiding,genius of revolution.
Qadhafi rarely has been seen in public since the raid. But
one evening in late October, wearing a stylish jump suit, he
climbed the red-carpeted stairs of his mansion, which had
been damaged in the American attack. There, surrounded by
pieces of shattered glass and marble, he talked with U.S. News
& World Report Senior Correspondent Richard Z. Chesnoff
and American writer Barbara Victor, author of Terrorism,
who is now at work on a book about Qadhafi. ^
Q What is the resolution of the Palestinian question?
There is no resolution. The Palestinian people, behind the
Arab nation, will continue fighting till the end.
Q Is the end the destruction of Israel? Is that the final solution?
Maybe the destruction of the Arabs, maybe the destruc-
tion of Israel.
Q What's your reaction to suggestions that there was a Reagan
administration disinformation campaign against you?
The American people sit accused because they have not yet
tried Reagan and his gang for this scandal of disinformation,
which outdid the Watergate scandal. Also, they have not even
tried him for this crime that you see here [pointing to the rub-
"The Leader" plays to an audience in his bombed Tripoli residence
.U.S.NEWS & WORLD REPORT, Nov. 10, 1986
ble around him]-as a
killer and a murderer and
a madman. Does this i
.serve the interests of the
American people? Does
this build friendship?
Q There were reports that
after the bombing raid you
were deeply depressed-
This is part of the dis-
information campaign;
because during that peri-
od I was out with the peo-
ple more than normal.
Q Do you think President
Reagan tried to kill you?
You can see [laughing
and gesturing to the ruins
surrounding him]. He
should be tried as a killer,
as a murderer.
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last six months altered your support of what the U.S. considers
terrorist movements?
We have increased our support for the liberation move-
ments of the Palestinians and for all liberation movements
throughout the world. To react to this aggression, we have
doubled our efforts with the liberation movements.
Q Even if your activities provoke a similar response from the
U.S. government-
Even if they hit us with the atomic bombs!
Q Do the Abu Nidal and Georges Habash groups [both linked to
terrorism] use Libya as a base for their operations?
Libya is open for.the Palestinians.
Q Is the Soviet Union still behind you as solidly as before?
We are satisfied with the relationship with the Soviet
Union-with our friendship with the Soviet Union.
Q Would you comment on the recent
break in relations between Great Britain
and Syria?
The West is mad! It's still with the
spirit of the Crusades. They would like
to enable the Israelis to control the
Arab world, and they want to destroy
the Arabs. It's a colonial policy that
has not changed.
0 Is there a difference in your mind be-
tween anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism, or
anti-Jewishness?
We don't hate the Jews, because
some Libyans are Jews,and some Arabs
are Jews and Judaism is a religion.
We don't hate religion; we are
against Zionism. More clearly, we are
against colonialism. We would consid-
er Palestine as. occupied by these peo-
ple-whatever name you give them-
even if they were Moslems. They are
occupying Palestine, and they have to
be resisted.
I don't think a reasonable man can
support Israel. This is a tyrant entity and a terrorist one,
and it is manufacturing atomic weapons. Why don't you
stand by the Palestinian people, who are persecuted and
being displaced from their lands?
Why-did the Jews come from Europe to Palestine? Be-
cause you persecute them in Europe. They should get their
rights as European citizens. We shouldn't pay the price of
the persecution of the Jews.
Q If Palestine were to go back into the hands of the Palestin-
ians, where would the Israelis go?
Most of them came as invaders from Europe and Russia,
and they must go_ back to their homes. The Arabs stayed
800 years in Spain, and then they came back.
Q But the Jews originated in Palestine, too-
We accept the Jews who were living with us before
1948-for thousands of years, of course. These are Oriental
Jews. But the others are all invaders. The right of the Arabs
to resist is much stronger than Reagan and all of his might.
Q The Arabs have been fighting among themselves,for de-
cades. Why are t,ey so disunited?
Because of Western colonization. Because ' the Arab
homeland is divided into 20 countries because of the West-
ern colonization.
Q Would a leader other than Yassir Arafat be more effective in
uniting factions within the Palestine Liberation Organization?
Generally, Yassir Arafat has failed. Who's going to be the
alternative is unknown yet.
Q Is it conceivable that Americans will face attacks by "libera-
tion movements", inside the United States? Would you support
the activities of such groups?
Peoples have the right to defend themselves and to react
to aggression.
Q Does a resolution of the Palestinian issue depend on unity
within the Arab world?
Of course. Why does America object to unity of the Arab
nation? This means that the struggle of Abraham Lincoln
Syria sends young women to be trained
at a military academy in Tripoli
was terrorism and was wrong. Why
does the United States object to libera-
tion of Arab land? This means that
George Washington's liberation was
wrong and was terrorism. .
Arab unity is a unification of Arab
countries into states like the United
States. This is the role I am playing-a
mixture of the roles of George Washing-
ton and Abraham Lincoln.
Q Would you like to lead such a united
Arab world?
[Smiling broadly] Yes.. Why not?
Q What are your feelings about the fact
that thousands of your fellow Moslems in
Afghanistan have died at the hands of So-
viet troops?
This is a problem that concerns the
people of Afghanistan. The Russians
came there at the request of the legal,
government of Afghanistan.
America also occupies many coun-
tries at the request of those countries. It
had five bases here at the request of the
Libyan government before the revolution. Why didn't you
consider this'as occupation?
Q Has the tremendous drop in world oil prices caused Libya to
adjust its priorities, its standard of living?
It is the Western oil companies that are affected primari-
ly, because they lost a -lot of revenue. No, we have not been
affected.
I have one observation to make. Now, there are two,'
different ideological lines in the world-the Third World:
Latin America, Africa, Asia and the Arab homeland. They:
are in labor of revolution either toward Marxism, which is;
prevailing-the traditional direction, like Cuba and Ethio
pia-or the Jamahiriya. Libya is a Jamahiriya, a "state o:
the masses." Grenada, for example, during the time o
Maurice Bishop: He was following the. Jamahiriya line.
There was a Marxist coup against him,-and he was killed;
Then came the American intervention. Cuba, on the other
hand, got the other direction, the Marxist direction.
The war launched by America against Nicaragua, Grena-
da, Cuba-this is compelling these countries to go Marxist:
It's like you put pressure on Castro to become a Commu-
nist. I am not a Communist, but I might be obliged just to
nag America-to become a Communist out of spite.
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S2 Algiers EL MOUDJAHID in Frenc,
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angerous aberratio
countries, especia
threatening the Ara
campaign similar to
aberrations? Are they
wide action designed to
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s, to the extent of
y Syria, the target of a
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t rather one,spect of a planned world-
is now/essentially embodied in the
!alesti - ian resistance.
lion in the heart of Jerusalem a
Syria's supposed guilt was es
the stamp of a synchronized
stages. Indeed, some initiat
all reflect too glaringly the
through what devious means
ed in London. Everything
lose together and above
orship for conclusions
that Syria has been
threatened with reprisalsInd other militar
of the attack on Lib/a in April the P
Nor is this the fir time that London has nconditionally
espoused Washington's ideas, whether on interven g in the Near
East under cover df facilities granted to the U.S. Army or on
delaying as long/as possible the implementation f sanctions
against the coun,Iry of apartheid.
Is it believed irLondon and elsewhere that the Arab wo Id is too
weakened by ' s divisions to respond effectively in the eve t of an
attack on ope of its members, in this case Syria? It i quite
possible thall this commotion concerning Syria is merely way
of testing rab intentions. Be that as it may, there has bee no
lack of e4 ressions of support for Damascus over this camps n
unleashd by London.
For it part, Algeria has expressed its complete solidarity wit
Syri, at present the object "of a campaign of pressures and
hu iliation" within the context of "a more wide-ranging opera-
ti o directed against the Arab nation as a whole, designed to
ce it to abdicate its proper rights and to make concessions that
refuses to make," as the Foreign Ministry spokesman has very
JANA Cites Al-Qadhdhafi Interview With Irish TV
LD071104 Tripoli JANA in Arabic 0955 GMT 7 Nov 86
[Text] Tripoli, 7 Nov (JANA) - The Irish television network has
held an interview wth the brother leader of the revolution in
which he talked about a host of Arab and international issues.
OUDJAHID Backs Syria Against UI 6'Campaign'
with carefully measured
tagon strategists
At the beginning of the interview, the brother leader pointed out
that Libya was a politically, economically, and socially colonized
country before the revolution and was doomed to backwardness
and dependence on colonialism. It was dominated by families and
tribes loyal to colonialism, and this accelerated the emergence of
the revolution. The revolution was the process of liberating a part
of this world, namely Libya, to make progress, destroy backward-
ness, and enable the people to rule themselves instead of being
ruled by families. He explained that the world as a whole is
considered occupied, and the peoples colonized because they are
ruled by governments, parties, classes and forces of exploitation,
and, therefore, they must be liberated through a world people's
revolution and the establishment of a jamahiri system. This is the
stage of the Green Book. Therefore, progress must continue and
a solution to human problems must be found, because man's
needs have not been met and pressures have not been lifted from
him, and because freedom has not scored the final victory.
He said this is why the Third Universal Theory came about: to
achieve these things where previous attempts failed, because the
Third Universal Theory is the theory of liberating needs, the
theory of satisfying needs, and the people's history that will
replace the government theory. Therefore, green theories must
triumph and the Green Book and its explanations must spread to
create a cultural revolution and build a revolutionary movement;
namely, the movement of revolutionary committees whose task
would be to mobilize the masses and carry out people's revolution
so people's authority would be confirmed.
The brother leader explained that the British presence in Ireland
is a colonial presence and that there are geographic, linguistic,
and ethnic differences between them. He said that we support
the Irish cause, and. if I were the president of southern Ireland I
would have considered my country's independence incomplete
and partially colonized, and I would take part in fighting for the
liberation of the northern part of the island.
He added that the issue of Northern Ireland is a liberation and
just issue, and I.consider the British presence a colonialist one.
The Irish youth in the Irish island as a whole must take part in
the liberating of the northern part of the island, and all the Irish
must support their cause because this is their decision. The Irish
must express themselves without deputization, because
deputization means representation, and representation means
deception.
The leader of the revolution pointed out that the entire world
condemned Reagan and Thatcher, considering them warmon-
gers and child-killers who ought to be put on trial.
He said the United States is a mad member of the international
community and possesses a devastating power. Hence a deterrent
must be found, which can take numerous forms: It might take
the form of an alliance with a power that is counter to the United
States. It might take the form of a world front to be created of
all peoples to put an end to this lunacy. Or it could take the form
of a world army, an invisible army that would fight the United
States everywhere. If the United States practices aggression,
then we must face it in the same manner.
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The brother leader of the revolution called for the expulsion of
the agents of imperialism and Zionism from the Nonaligned
Movement: countries such as Egypt, Zaire, the Ivory Coast,
some of the Latin American fascist countries, and some of the
Arab countries that are agents of Zionism, racism, and imperial-
ism and that are puppets in the hands of America and Zionism.
Asked how Arab unity could be achieved, the brother leader of
the revolution affirmed that the achievement of Arab unity can
be made through the masses and not through governments.
Henceforth, we will begin serious work for the unification of the
Arab nation. Libya is on the side of the people's masses. We
believe this to be a legitimate stance, and legitimacy is what the
peoples want.
The brother leader of the revolution affirmed that the severance
of relations with Syria by the stationary U.S. aircraft carrier is
only an imperialist racist role hostile to the Arab nation that will
lead to the destruction of Western interests and the isolation of
the aircraft carrier, which supports terrorism against Syria. This
is an unjust stance, as is that of Europe toward Libya, which is
not based on any evidence. But this will be of benefit to Ireland,
will help to bolster its relations with Libya and the Arab world,
and will turn it into a friend of the Arab world, entering a new
era of cooperation with it.
The brother leader of the revolution affirmed that the jamahiri
tendency must be encouraged because it is a neutral and progres-
sive tendency, although the United States considers it to be
against it.
The brother leader asked: Why does the United States oppose
the jamahiri system in Libya, Nicaragua, or Grenada before the
occupation? The jamahiri tendency, he said, is a new world
phenomenon, but it is not directed against anyone. Eternal peace
is bound to come once the jamahiri system becomes established
in the world, when only the peoples will remain while govern-
ments and parties and parliaments will disappear, and when there
will be no classes any longer or causes for aggression, because the
peoples do not hate each other.
AI-Turayki Begin
LD061632 Tripoli.
Tour as Envoy to Canada
NA in English 1452 GMT 6 Nov 86
[Text] New York, Al H
'Ali 'abd al-Salam al-T
Great Al-Jamahiriyah at
governor-general. The la
iriyah News Agency - Dr.
permanent representative of
s presented his credentials as
emphasized the promotion of
lity and mutual respect.
He has explaib&d the nature of anti-Al-Jamahiriyah media cam-
paign pointing out the policy of Great Al-Jamahiriyah.
Friendship Society attended by large number of senators, mem-
bers of parliament ~nd university dons, men of letters, apart fr
Canadian-Libyan relations.
Dr. al-Turayki in a 1 ture he delivered in U.S. Fordhafn Uni-
versity has pointed o t the active role played by Great Al-
Jamahiriyah in the A tab, Islamic, African and righ aligned
dialogue in supporting
He says that our country i
Arab unity, pointing out
sized the security of Euro
region.
frican countries and li~eration move-
making every end6avour to achieve
sign military fl/ets. He has empha-
He also asserts the active role
member of the committee for f
O.A.U.
t U.N./and that our country is
e ligt}tdation of colonialism in
inst the so-called veto at the
He stresses that our country is ag
,that it is time to modify U.N
He concludes by enumerating t 4e massive and civilized
achievements accomplished by the Gkeat Al-Fatih Revolution.
SUDAN
Minister on Garang Movement, Reli
JN061937 Khartoum SUVA in Arabic
(
[Text] Khartoum, 6 Nov
UNA) - In a
Presidential Affairs Minister Salah 'Abd
iating with Garang
that the government l/as abandoned nego
ment's lack of credibility. However, the g
prevent any party frgm negotiating with him,
the Garang move-
e minister added.
The minister voiced optimism that the Gara g movement will
collapse, especially since it has begun to avoi any clashes with
the Armed Foes and begun instead to a ack citizens in
peaceful areas away from areas of military operations. He
explained that, he scarcity of relief supplies has eated divisions
The ministe said the government welcomes any of rt that would
contribute stopping bloodshed in the south so th government
will be abJ to continue the program its has dra up for the
south. He also announced that the government has t up collec-
tive camp for those who left the southern region b use of the
security situation. He said that the relief agency is exe ing great
efforts in cooperation with the relevant authorities to secure relief
supplies and security for these camps, which are expected to
house thousands of evacuees.
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Qaddafi Says the Sanctions
Could Turn(Libyal~o Soviet
By JUDITH MILLER
TRIPOLI, Libya, Jan. 9 - Col.
Muamtpar el-Qaddafi warned tonight
that continued American hostility to-
ward this country would lead to "more
cooperation" between Libya and the
Soviet Union.
The dresult, he said, might be the
transformation of Libya into a Commu-
nist nation, a Cuba in the Arab world.
The Libyan leader also said Palestin-
ian "freedom fighters" had hurt their
cause by killing civilians in attacks like
those op the Rome and Vienna airports
Dec. 27, and called upon Palestinians to
limit their struggle to "military Israeli
objecti'es."
The Libyan leader issued the warn-
ing to the United States and his counsel
to Palestinians in an interview at the
Babl el-Azzazir military barracks in
Tripoli' with five Western reporters
after a news conference attended by
more than 60 foreign and Libyan jour-
nalists, All five Western reporters at
the interview were women.
Support for Greens
Colgnel Qaddafi said at the news con-
ference that he was calling upon West-
ern Europe and the Arabs to rid the
Mediterranean of any American mili-
tary presence. He also vowed to "sup-
port" ip unspecified ways West Euro-
pean groups - such as the Greens in
West Germany - that oppose the pres-
ence of American missiles and bases
Colonel Qaddafi said Libya was
"studying" the possibility of respond-
ing to, President Reagan's freeze on
Libyan assets by freezing American
assets. here. Those assets are esti-
mate4 by some diplomats at $400 mil-
lion.
He characterized the overall body of
sanctions as "crazy and face-saving
measures," and called them a "silly
and emotional" response that would
have ab adverse effect on Libya. The
colonel predicted that his country
would' easily replace the Americans
workg here with East and West Euro-
peans.,
He'~tressed that Americans in Libya
wereuafe, and that they would be given
asylum if they desired it but would also
be free to leave safely if they wished to
comply with President Reagan's or-
ders.
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Colonel Qaddafi's tone in the inter-
viewidiffered sharply from that of he
took *in the news conference that
prece4ed it and from the tone of his
meeting Wednesday night with Ambas-
sadors 'from seven West European
countries. In the interview, the colonel,
who had covered the blue denim vest
and trousers that he was wearing dur-
ing the news conference with a camel-
colored, gold-embroidered Arab-style
cloak, appeared relaxed and jovial.
He criticized Mr. Reagan as a "weak
man" who had "created many crises in
the world."
This week the Reagan Administra-
tion ordered a total trade embargo with
Libya, told all Americans living here to
leave, and froze all Libyan assets in the
United States to protest what it says
are Libyan sponsorship of and involve-
ment in Palestinian terrorist attacks
on civilians, such as those at the Rome
and Vienna airports, in which 19 people
died and more than 100 were wounded.
Colonel Qaddafi said that in the past,
Libya had always refused to grant the
Soviet Union military bases here. "But
if the United States continues to pose a
threat, maybe the Libyan people will
change this," he said.
'More Cooperation,' He Says
Asked if he thought Libya might now
grant the Russians naval bases here,
Colonel Qaddafi replied, "Not bases."
But, he added, "With regard to the
American threat, there will be more
cooperation between Libya and the
Soviet Union."
It was even "possible," Colonel Qad-
dafi said, that Libya could turn into a
Communist nation.
Using as an example Cuba and its
leader, Fidel Castro, he said: "You did
the same with Cuba. Castro was not ?a
Communist and Cuba was not Commu-
nist. But you forced him to be Commu-
nist and he changed.
"This is dangerous for you," he said,
"to create a Communist country by
your policy."
At the news conference Colonel Qad-
dafi mocked President Reagan as a
"useless actor" and charged that
America was "extremely anti-Se-
mitic" with respect to Arabs, and "rac-
ist and hostile" to Islam.
Denial of Libyan Role
He repeated that Libya had not been
involved in the Rome and Vienna air-
port attacks, but refused to condemn
the actions or a group that carried
them out as "terrorists."
The struggle for the liberation of
Palestine, he said, was "the most sa-
cred work."
At. the same time, however, he said,
when pressed, that his comments did
not signal any "approval" of the air-
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t a news conference yesterday in Tripoli, Libya.
port massacres. He did not elaborate
on this point until the interview follow-
ing the press conference.
He dismissed as "trivial and untrue"
recent Tunisian allegations that two of
the terrorists who carried out the
Vienna attack had Tunisian passports
that Libya had confiscated last sum-
mer from Tunisian workers Tripoli
was evicting from the country.
He declined to say what he discussed
with Sabry al-Banna, also known as
Abu Nidal, the leader of a breakaway
Palestinian faction believed to have or-
chestrated the Rome and Vienna raids,
the last time the two met. "That is not
your business," he said.
Colonel Qaddafi said that American
sanctions were directed not just
against Libya, but against "the entire
Arab nation." The Arabs would have a
collective response, he said, when Arab
League foreign ministers met in Tunis
next week.
In his meeting with the seven West-
era European Ambassadors on
Wednesday, Colonel Qaddafi warned
the envoys that "if it comes to a war,
we will drag Western Europe into it,"
according to one diplomat who was at
the meeting.
U.S.'Sanctions Are Condemned
FEZ, Morocco, Jan. 9 (AP) - Libya
scored another diplomatic success here
today, pushing through the Islamic
Conference Organization a resolution
that condemns the American sanctions
against Libya and calls on Moslem
countries to counter the measures.
The resolution, passed in a regular
session, called on all Moslem nations
"to take the necessary actions deemed
appropriate to counter these oppres-
sive American measures."
The resolution passed today specifi-
cally named the United States and
called upon Washington "to rescind
these oppressive economic measures."
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