ALGIERS TV INTERVIEWS AL-QADHDHAFI

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• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP05-01559R000400430045-9
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• Document Creation Date: December 22, 2016
• Document Release Date: February 2, 2012
• Sequence Number: 45
• Publication Date: September 7, 1988
• Content Type: CABLE

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COUNTRY: LIBYA
SUBJ: TAKE 5 OF 8 -- ALGIERS TV INTERVIEWS AL-QADHDHAFI
REF: LD0609234188 TRIPOLI TELEVISION ARABIC 062010///TO ARAB
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((EXCERPTS ((AL-QADHDHAFI CONTINUES)) THE ALGERIAN
CHARTER IS A PLAN OF ACTION WHICH WE MUST IMPLEMENT AS OF
TODAY. HENCEFORTH IT MUST BE IMPLEMENTED IN LIBYA AND
ALGERIA BECAUSE IT IS A POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC PLAN. AS
FOR THE GREEN BOOK, IT IS A THEORY; A THEORY WHICH PERHAPS
MAY ONLY BE IMPLEMENTED AFTER 100 YEARS. IT IS A THEORY
WHICH ((WORDS INDISTINCT)). IT IS A THEORY WHICH ADVOCATES
THE CREATION OF A NEW ERA, THE JAMAHIRI ERA. POWER WOULD
BELONG TO THE PEOPLE; WEALTH WOULD BELONG TO THE PEOPLE;
EVERYTHING WOULD BELONG TO THE PEOPLE. GENERALLY SPEAKING,
THE GREEN BOOK IN ITS THREE CHAPTERS IS CLEAR. IT IS
SOMETHING ELSE THAT THE GREEN BOOK WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE
IMPLEMENTED. IT MUST BE READ ONLY. TO BE READ IN LIBYA AND
ALGERIA AND MAYBE ANOTHER GENERATION WILL IMPLEMENT IT.
EVEN IN LIBYA WE HAVE MADE GREAT STRIDES WITHOUT BEING ABLE
TO IMPLEMENT THE GREEN BOOK. IT IS (?NOT) EVEN NECESSARY TO
IMPLEMENT IT IN LIBYA ((WORD INDISTINCT)). GENERALLY
SPEAKING, IT IS A THEORY AND IDEOLOGY.
AS FOR THE CHARTER, WE CAN IMPLEMENT IT AS OF TODAY.
THERE IS NO OBJECTION TO IT. I WOULD SAY: LET THE ALGERIAN
CHARTER BE CIRCULATED TO ALL LIBRARIES AND CULTURAL CENTERS
IN LIBYA, IN ALL POPULAR CIRCLES ((WORD INDISTINCT)). IT IS
A BRILLIANT PLAN OF ACTION. ((REPETITIVE PASSAGE OMITTED))
((QUESTION)) BROTHER COLONEL, WE EXPECET A MAGHREBAN
SUMMIT BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR. WHAT CAN WE EXPECT
FROM THIS SUMMIT FROM THE ASPECT OF THE NEW IMPETUS IT WILL
GIVE?
((AL-QADHDHAFI)) IT IS NOT IMPORTANT WHETHER IT IS HELD
OR NOT; WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THAT THE WORKING COMMITTEES
ACCOMPLISH THEIR WORK. THE SUMMIT GAVE THE GREEN LIGHT AND
ENTRUSTED THESE COMMITTEES TO DRAW UP VISUALIZATIONS FOR THE
ESTABLISHMENT OF MAGHREBAN UNITY. IF THEY ACCOMPLISH
ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES THAT WE MEET, WE WILL MEET. THERE IS
NO LONGER A PROBLEM FOR US TO MEET. SHOULD WE ONE DAY
CONTACT EACH OTHER, THEN THERE IS NO BIG PROBLEM; WE CAN
MEET AT THE HOME OF ANYONE OF US. WE ARE BROTHERS AND WE
ARE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, AND THANK GOD, THERE ARE NO
PROBLEMS. WE TALK ON THE PHONE CONTINUALLY AMONG OURSELVES
AND WE CAN MEET AT ANY TIME -- WE, THE FIVE. IN OTHER
WORDS, IT DOES NOT INTEREST US IF A SUMMIT IS HELD OR NOT;
WHAT CONCERNS US IS THAT THE COMMITTEES ACCOMPLISH THEIR
WORK. THIS IS WHAT MATTERS.
((QUESTION)) THE RELATIONS OF COOPERATION AND
COMPLEMENTARITY BETWEEN THE TWO FRATERNAL PEOPLE, THE
ALGERIAN AND LIBYAN PEOPLES, HAVE CONTINUED TO DEVELOP IN
LINE WITH THEIR EXPECTATIONS AND IN AN EMBODIMENT OF THE
WILL OF THE ALGERIAN AND THE LIBYAN REVOLUTIONS, ESPECIALLY
SINCE THE HISTORIC MEETING BETWEEN YOU AND PRESIDENT CHADLI
BENDJEDID AT AIN AMENAS IN 1986. CAN YOU, BROTHER COLONEL,
EVALUATE THE STEPS THAT HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED AND THE SCOPE
FOR THE ACHIEVEMENT OF THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES OF THE ARAB
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NATION?
((AL-QADHDHAFI)) IN GENERAL, AS A RESULT OF THE MEETINGS,
THE DIALOGUE, AND THE SERIOUS INTERACTIONS BETWEEN THE
ALGERIAN AND THE LIBYAN REVOLUTIONS WE ARE NOW ABOUT TO
PRESENT A DRAFT FOR UNITY AND THE CREATION OF ONE STATE
BETWEEN LIBYA AND ALGERIA. THIS IS RECORDED IN THE DRAFT OF
THE UNIONIST CONSTITUTION FOR A ONE STATE -- AND TUNISIA
MIGHT JOIN US IN SETTING UP THIS STATE, BECAUSE OF THE
EVENTS OF 7 NOVEMBER. TUNISIA WAS BACKWARD. AND HAS NOW
BECOME PROGRESSIVE, AND CONSEQUENTLY, THERE IS NO OBSTACLE,
NO REASON, TO MAKE TUNISIA STAND ALOOF FROM JOINING IN THE
FOUNDING OF THE UNIONIST STATE.
THE THREE OF US MIGHT SET UP A UNIONIST STATE AND BE AT
THE SAME TIME IN A MAGHREBAN UNITY THAT BRINGS TOGETHER
MOROCCO AND MAURITANIA, AND SEE THE FATE OF THE SAHARA
((AL-QADHDHAFI LAUGHS)): SHALL WE SAY IT IS A STATE, PART OF
THE REGION?
THUS THIS STRUGGLE HAS INDEED INFLUENCED WHAT WE SEE NOW:
THE BROTHERS IN ALGERIA INFORMED US THAT ON 1 SEPTEMBER 1989
A CELEBRATION WILL BE HELD ON THE ARTIFICIAL BORDERS CREATED
OF COURSE BY THE FRENCH, THE ENGLISH, AND THE ITALIANS, TO
ABOLISH THE BORDERS AND THE NEED FOR PASSPORTS, AND TO MOVE
WITH AN IDENTITY CARD. THIS GAVE US GREAT PLEASURE, AND WE
CONSIDER THIS A SALUTE AND A PRESENT FROM THE
REVOLUTIONARIES OF ALGERIA TO THE AL-FATIH ANNIVERSARY.
((PASSAGE OMITTED: POINTING OUT THAT THE ALGERIAN,
PALESTINIAN, AND LIBYAN REVOLUTIONS ALL BEGAN ON THE FIRST
DAY OF THE MONTH)
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