STURDY STAN AT THE CIA

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP05T00644R000200780022-4
• Release Decision: RIFPUB
• Original Classification: K
• Document Page Count: 4
• Document Creation Date: December 22, 2016
• Document Release Date: June 16, 2009
• Sequence Number: 22
• Publication Date: November 27, 1978
• Content Type: OPEN SOURCE

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thing "',to, "a ? newt-""statistical 'matrix.
:Turner's' uneasy with" words,.-which
.means he has tendencies opposed to
those:intelligence.agents who want to
caveateverything."''''
Retired."'Admiral".'Elmo- "Bud"
Zumwalt ''recommended 'Turner ` for
...-several:'important Navy posts in'?the
past. But he -sees the ~ CIA* as "in-
'.creasingly acting.'as'-a?"propaganda
:arm "of the presidency rather than
.absolutely 'tuthless about coming out
with'; objective ceiteria:"'This tilting,
towards presidents began:with Henry
:Kissinger; Zumwalt says, and: today
arter :makes ??. pur is statements
i.and,.the:?next CiA analyses lean in
that direction.'!
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CIA morale in. the field is so low,
she.'insists;;"that if:.youjevaluate.on a,'
;one-to-10 ;scale .;in ;comparison with,;
,the KGB, the CIA:.:wouid have, gotten:
a ;five: - at ,. its .highest-'effecti.veness...
Right now they operate at the level of
gone: The-KGB opera.tes.-ateeig4t...'!
Zumwalt. blames Carter,'rather
than Turner "I don 't.think anyone. at
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.ambassador they ever'had:.He.leaves
everything behind in order to wont.
our way of life, We all ought . to ..be
the :CIA ..could:: perforiai :differently
,given 'a'president. who?operates from
.the. naive base Mr..: Carter .,-operates
from;.who thinks that.,the same ideo-
logical. ; and, -.theological, orientation
effective at'.,*
Camp,. David with two
religious, men'.can be applied to.'the
Soviets.. So they're, taking 'him 'right
and left; And .Admiraf.Turner is.giv-
ing..the. president; exactly: what he
wants,. Which is what one shouId'ex=
"peel from.. a loyal presidential ap-
Turner flatly denies "that. he has
,politicized. the.; agency's..intelligence
reports for.thebenefit of,the adminis-
tration:.: "What you are :?seeing is a
greater... openness,.; regardless :,of
. ,whether, it; supports.or detracts (from.
administration, positions) . I'm not in.
,the policy: game :I'm.:' declassifying
whit-.6n-be de-cla'ssified..;Som'etimes
I,m,Y.praised . and .'sometimes 'I'm'
?damned, I'm'nothere.to"undercut the..
,president,but.I'm', not'.here' to support
political:'sense-,because- I'
have to be objective.....
He;:also denies the accusation that
he restricts. dissenting, views. in. CIA..
analyses .;-`' If..there.is ; one thing . I
'?have~: 'done : successfully..; ,it is. to
,emphasize-,;min.ority::'.views in the
intelligence reports.,.. You'. can't find
anybody than would?deny:"that I've.
-driven footnotes .out.beca'use before I
-came here I,never. read,the:footnotes..
I assumed they came from'some wild
guy,.who had to dissent...:;:
Today, if. a dissent.,is, necessary, it'
goes: right in the. text:of, the,estimate:
?Yout have:'to; read it..':Then'the deci
sion maker's got the whole picture. I.
am.. just excited what .: it' s' done to im .
prove the: estimating process. and, I'm
curious, to-know:who accused me of
suppressing, minority' Views. If I,
knew I'd probably; hang.;Iiirn. up. by!
,his, thumbs.'
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''was,_rev,ealed that the: former Soviet
diplomat had "spent` large sums 'of
proud.'.
CIA-provided'. money'on a woman. "I. However Turner is embarrassed
don't 'wantao'.be a'prude..I don't ap- ..over the case of an employee, 'Wil-
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iam Kampil
s, having, been con.
prove:ift my-own life,of the kind of
victM. selling satellite secrets to
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g' Mow. "I've ''ti htened _, security
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.S his. private' life He's an:un.
ar-
.. ried man.-He has the right to do what
he likes with his'money'and his spare
time,. -We're trying to help . him.transi
tion into being an American, without
invading his constitutional and legal
rights to privacy
;'He hasn't: done `'anything crimi-
nal. We. had. rio..part in his private
:.female. companionship relations. We
:did not pay him to pay her.-- We paid
hi4n-wbat he deserves on thegrounds
..of what he is.doing-for' us. I'm'proud
we have a country that will attract a''
rnan:of his high caliber and?reputa-
"'tion and prom ise.`inside the: Soviet,
Union. 'L.-mean; "~t.really shows that.,.,
when he -lived here- fora few years: '.
He had everything going .for him
in. his country, he. was a the youngest
procedures: here: I'd like it not 'to
have happened. It's: very'difficult to
establish such tight procedures that
At can't happen. All?the papers on my
desk are highly'',classifiedr' It's-'the
,`medium of doing business. If', I ;have
..lo sign for each one we can,gget our-
`selves tied in'knots.: So you'' Rive to
comprom ise,.between,efficiency and
security. I think the; whole''?govern-
ment in'the'?past 10 years has` leaned
. a'little bit-'much- toward .more effi
:cient.'ways of handling' their 'paper.
rather': than-to' secure ;ways 'of han-.
,filing them,~'%
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