CONVERSATION WITH JEANNE DAVIS, NSC STAFF
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January 6, 1976
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Review Staff: 76/0003
6 January 1976
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Conversation with Jeanne Davis, NSC Staff
1. Ms. Davis phoned me this afternoon to discuss the
problem of storage of the materials collected by the select
committees. She observed that storage at NSA is not accept-
able to the people with whom she has talked, which includes
General Scowcroft. 40 Committee material and NSC papers
should not, in her opinion, be held and controlled by NSA
personnel. She talked about the NSC taking custody and a
review of this is being conducted to see if it is physically
feasible to do so.
2. The NSC staff is going to try and develop two al-
ternatives to add to the two we now have. We are preparing
a draft on National Archives storage. NSA is preparing one
on storage out there, and NSC will prepare two options as
follows:
a. All the material will be stored by the NSC
and made available for Congressional reference;
b. Consideration will be given to some segrega-
tion by originating organizations. Under:the second
option, the NSC may have some kind of sub-option
whereby its materials are segregated from all the
others and stored at along with its STAT
other papers. I noted that the sub-option puts in-
vestigative materials back in CIA hands which we had
hoped to avoid.
3. General Scowcroft and Mr. Marsh seem to be in agree-
ment that eventual negotiations with the select committees
should be conducted by the White House. Ms. Davis and I agreed
that we would go ahead with the two options now being drafted
for storage in the National Archives and the NSA and that her
staff would try and develop its two additional options. The
committee that we have could hold another meeting, rank the
options in terms of desirability and put these in an option
paper for White House review.
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4. I noted that Mr. Martin of the DOS is to produce
some additional language on control of access, after which CIA
and NSA could complete their respective proposals. I promised
to provide her copies of these drafts. When she has completed
hers, we will hold our next meeting, which is to be in the near
future.
S. D. Breckinridge
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Review Staff: 76/0012
5 January 1976
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Meeting on Disposition of Select Committee
Records
This morning at 10:30 (0/DDA),
(0/S), (UGC), and I met with
the following: Alfred Goldberg, Office of the Secretary
of Defense; Thomas Martin, Office of Assistant Attorney
General; Michael Hornblow of the National Security Council,
and; J. J. Hitchcock, Department of State. The purpose of
the meeting was to consider a position for the Executive
Branch on how the House and Senate Select Committees
should provide for storage and handling their records after
termination of the investigations.
A copy of the proposed resolution had been distributed
in advance to those attending the meeting. We explained
the steps we had gone through in producing the draft in the
present form (copy attached), It was noted that:the most
difficult point, in terms of getting agreement with the
Congressional Committees, was the last provision which
specifies that eventual downgrading or declassification
of records would be carried out by the originating departments.
There was some general discussion about the draft bill
prepared by the Senate Committee on Government Operations.
Mr. Goldberg asked what alternatives had been con-
sidered as storage places, other than the National
Archives. We stated that it had been suggested that the
Agency accept the responsibility, which had been declined
because of repercussions if something happened to the
materials. Mr. Goldberg offered NSA as a storage site,
saying that Congressman Pike had agreed to this following
his earlier investigation of the Pueblo incident.
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It was the sense of the meeting that if the Congress
is to retain control over the material then storage at
NSA would be preferable to storage in the National Archives.
It was agreed, however, to propose drafts of two options,
one for NSA storage and one for National Archives storage.
Mr. Martin stated that he would like to provide
some additional language on how access to the materials
could be controlled. He was asked to provide this to
CIA as well as to NSA. suggested additional
language to provide not only for security clearances,
which refers to classifications, but also for security
approval, which provides for compartmented information.
Mr. Hornblow agreed to speak with Mr. Marsh, in
the White House, so some thought could be given to how
the Executive Branch would present its position to the
Select Committees.
Following circulation of drafts a new meeting will
be scheduled.
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29,December 1975
Resolved, that all records, including books, papers, maps,
photographs, or other documentary materials, regardless of
physical form or characteristics, made or received by the
Select Committee To Study Governmental Operations With
Respect To Intelligence Activities, established under
Senate Resolution 21 of the 94th Congrbss, shall be trans-
ferred upon the termination of the Select Committee's man-
date to the National Archives and Records Service, there
to be held in secure storage as described below in Section
2, with their use being limited to those persons or organ-
izations authorized in the manner described below in
Section 3.
Section 2. All records transferred to the National Archives
and Records Service for secure storage by the Senate Select
Committee shall be stored in a secure area or areas separate
and discrete from all other areas in which records are stored
by the National Archives and Records Service. This secure
storage shall meet the security specifications designated in
Executive Branch standards for appropriate storage of classi-
fied and/or unclassified_mat3rial? The Central Intelligence
Agency, acting in behalf of the: Executive Branch, will conduct
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a physical-security-survey to ensure that the storage facil-
ities meet those standards. National Archives and Records
Service personnel with access to the records will be appro-
priately cleared and briefed for records requiring special
clearance.
Section 3. Use of the records transferred by the Senate
Select Committee to the National Archives and Records Service
shall be limited to persons cleared and briefed for the
classifications and controls of the materials involved, and
shall be further limited to those persons and members of
organizations authorized in the specific manner described
below:
Section 3(a). Use of the records containing information
originated by the Senate Select Committee shall be limited
to (1) current members of the acting, duly established
Senate Legislative Oversight Committee or Committees, (2)
appropriate staff members-of the acting duly established
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Senate Legislative Oversight Committee or Committees, as
duly authorized by the Chairman of such Committee in
writing. Use of such stored records, developed by the
Senate Select Committee from the testimony, depositions
or affidavits of the employees or of former employees of
the various departments, agencies or organizations shall
be subject to the requirements of Section 3(b), below,
as though furnished by them.
Section 3(b). Records furnished or information provided
to the Senate Select Committee shall be available for use
by persons, agencies, departments, or organization, or
by congressional committees or bodies other than the duly
designated Senate Legislative Oversight Committee or
Committees, only with the prior concurrence of the orig-
inating department, agency, organization, or its successor.
Section 3(c). Any requests for records or information
delivered to the National Archives and Records Service
by the Senate Select Committee under this Resolution,
other than requests from the duly established Senate
Legislative Oversight Committee or Committees (as provided
in Section 3(a), supra) shall be made in writing by .a rep-
resentative designated by the department, agency or organ-
ization that originated said information The designated
official shall be responsible for ensuring that the proper
clearances- exist for the requestor-
Section 4. Eventual downgrading or declassification o
classified records transferred by the Senate Select
Committee to the National Archives and Records Service
shall be carried out by the originating departments,
agencies and organizations, or their successors, in
accordance with applicable statutes and Executive Orders.
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