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Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE Kruse Noland Lane Norre1l Lanham . , _. Norton Lar'cade O'Brien, Ili. Lind O'Hara, Ill. Lucinghan O'Neill Las O'Sullivan McCarthy O'Toole McConnell Pace McCormack Passman McDonough Patman McGrath Patten McGuire Peterson McKinnon McSweeney Mack, ;11. Madden Philbin Pickett Poage Poulson Preston Sheppard Silees Smathers Spence Staggers Stanley Sullivan Tauriello Thomas Thompson Thornberry Tollefson Trimble Underwood Van Zandt Vinson Vorys Wagner Walter Whitaker White, Idaho Widnall Wier Wigglesworth Willis Wilson, Okla. Wilson, Tex. Woodhouse Yates Young Zablocki Mansfield Priest Marcantonio Rains Warsalls Ramsay Martin, Mass. Rhodes Miles, Eiehlmau lylills Robeson Morgan Rodino Multer Rogers, Fla. Murdopk Rogers, Mass. Murphy Rooney Murray, Tenn. Roosevelt Nelson Sasscer Nixon Shelley NAYS-91 Abernethy Hall, Nicholson Allen, Ill. Leonard W. Norblad 'Andersen, Halleck O'Hara, Minn. . H. Carl Harden O'Konski Anderson, Calif.Harvey Phillips, Calif. Arends Hill Rankin Barrett, Wyo. Hoeven Reed, Ill. Bennett, Fla. Hoffman, Mich, Reed, N. Y. -Bennett, Mich. Horan Bees Bishop Hull Boggs, Del. Jenison Brovgn, Ohio Jenkins Byrnes, Wis. Jennings Case, S. Dak. Jensen Clevenger Jonas Cole, Kans. Kearney Calmer Keating Crawford Kunkel Cunningham Latham Davis, Wis. D'Ewart Dondero Elston Fellows Golden Graham Gross Simpson, Pa. Smith, Kans. Smith, Wis. Stefan Taber Tackett Talle Velde Vursell Weichel Whitten Williams Winstead Withrow Wolcott Woodruff LeFevre Lichtenwalter McCulloch McMillen, Ill. Mack, Wash. Martin, Iowa Mason Meyer Michener Miller, Nebr. Murray, Wis. Andresen, Gamble Lyle August H. Gary Lynch Auchincloss Gillette McGregor Baring Gilmer McMillan, S. C. Barrett, Pa. Goodwin Macy Bates, Ky. Gore Marshall Battle Gorski Merrow Beall Granahan Miller, Calif. Blackney Granger Miller, Md. 13olton, Md. Green Mitchell pykin Gwinn Monroney Breen Hall, Morris Brehm Edwin Arthur Morrison Brooks Xap4 Morton Bryson Hare Moulder Buckley, N. Y. Hebert O'Brien, Mich. Bulwinkle Heffernan Patterson Burdick Heller Perkins Burke Herlong Pfeifer, Cannon Hinshaw Joseph L. Carroll Hobbs Pfeiffer, Cavalcante Hoffman, Ill. William L. Chador Hope Phillips, Tenn. Cole, N. Y. Irving Plumley Cotton Jackson, Wash. Polk Coudert James Potter Cox Kearns Powell Delaney Keefe Quinn Dingell Kelley, Pa. Rabaut Dolliver Kelly, N. Y. Redden Durham Kennedy Regan Eberharter Keogh Ribicoff Engel, Mich. Kerr Richards Fogarty Lodge Rivers Frazier Lovre Sabath Sadlak Smith, Ohio Walsh Sadowski Smith, Va. Welch St. George Steed Werdel Sanborn Stigler Wheeler Saylor Stockman White, Calif. Scott, Hardie Sutton Whittington Scott, Taylor Wickersham Hugh D., Jr. Teague Wilson, Ind. So the joint resolution was p pairs : Mr. O'Brien of Michigan Mr. Gorski with My `Cole o ew York. Mr. Herlong with'Mr. Cot n. Mr. Delaney wi~tfi Mr. August H. Andresen. Mr. Cox with Mr. Edwin Arthur Hall. Mr. Dingell with Mr. Beall. Mr. Steed with Mr. Hinshaw. Mr. Stigler with Mr. Sanborn. Mr. Wheeler with Mr. Smith of Ohio. Mr. Teague with Mr. Stockman. Mr. Sutton with Mr. Werdel. Mr. Polk with Mr. Kearns. Mr. Powell with Mr. Hope. Mr. Wickersham with Mr. Gillette. Mr. Redden with Mr. Hardie Scott. Mr. Regan with Mr. Wilson of Indiana. Mr. Welch with Mr. Miller of Maryland. Mr. Rabaut with Mr. Morton. Mr. Ribicoff with Mr. Keefe. Mr. Wood with Mr. Phillips of Tennessee. Mr. Irving with Mr. Plumley. Mr. Joseph L. Pfeifer with Mr. Tows. Mrs. Kelly of New York with Mr. Taylor. Mr. Jackson of Washington with Mr. Coudert. Mr. Perkins with Mr. Aucbincloss. Mr. Keogh with Mr. Wolverton. Mr. Green with Mr. Hand. Mr. Sadowski with Mr. James. Mr. Boykin with Mr. Blackney. Mr. Granahan with Mr. William L. Pfeiffer, Mr. Kennedy with Mr. Dolliver. Mr. Carroll with Mr. Shafer. Mr. Miller of California with Mr. Sadlak. Mr. Hebert with Mr. Macy. Mr. Gary with Mr. Hugh D. Scott, Jr. Mr. Moulder with Mr. Brehm. Mr. Gilmer with Mr. Gwinn. Mr. Sims with Mr. Lovre. Mr. Heller with Mr. McGregor. Mr, Morrison with Mr. Patterson. Mr. Eberharter with Mr. Engel of Michigan. Mr. Kelley of Pennsylvania with Mr. Hoff- man of Illinois. Mr. Fogarty with Mr. Wadsworth. Mr. Frazier with Mr. Goodwin. Mr. GUILL changed his vote from "nay" to "yea." The result of the vote was announced as above recorded. The doors were opened. A motion to reconsider was laid on the table. FURTHER MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE A further message from the Senate, by Mr. McDaniel, its enrolling clerk, announced that the Senate had passed, with amendments in which the concur- rence of the House is requested, a bill of the House of the following title: H. R. 8567. An act making appropriations to supply deficiencies in certain appropria- tions for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1950, and for other purposes. The message also announced that the Senate insists upon its amendments to the foregoing bill, requests a conference with the House on the disagreeing votes -9223 of the b Hou thereon, and appoints Mr. CKELL Mr. HAYDEN, Mr. Rus- NLISTMENT OF ALIENS IN THE REGULAR ARMY House Resolution 649 and ask for its immediate consideration. The Clerk read the resolution, as fol- lows : Resolved, That immediately upon the adoption of this resolution it shall be in order to move that the House resolve itself into the Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Union for the consideration of the bill (S. 2269) to provide for the en- listment of aliens in the Regular Army. That after general debate, which shall be confined to the bill and continue not to exceed 1 hour, to be equally divided and controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee on Armed Services, the bill shall be read for amendment under the 5-minute rule. At the conclusion of the consideration of the bill for amendment, the Committee shall rise and report the bill to the House with such amendments as may have been adopted and the previous question shall be considered as ordered on the bill and amendments thereto to final passage without intervening motion, except one motion to recommit. Mr. COLMER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 1 minute. Mr. Speaker, this resolution would make in order the consideration of S. 2269, a bill which has been requested by those in charge of the Armed Forces of this country, to permit certain aliens to be enlisted in our Armed Forces. Mr. Speaker, I now yield 12 minutes to the distinguished chairman of the House Committee on Armed Services, the gentleman from Georgia [Mr. VINSON], who will explain the purposes of the bill. (Mr. VINSON asked and was given' permission to revise and extend his remarks.) Mr. VINSON. Mr. Speaker, I will try to explain this new program which is to be inaugurated in the Army with respect to enlistments. The bill, which the pend- ing resolution makes in order to be con- sidered in the Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Union, author- izes 2,500 aliens to be enlisted in the Army of the United States. Before these aliens can be enlisted in the Army they must first be screened by the Depart- ment of the Army and the program must have the approval of the Office of the Secretary of State. Every effort will be made in the screening process to have it so thorough that no one who should not serve in our Armed Forces will be permitted to enter. We prescribe that they not have dependents and they must be between the ages of 18 and 35. I may say that this is a Senate bill. It was introduced and passed in the other body, the author of it being the dis- tinguished junior Senator from the Com- monwealth of Massachusetts [Mr. LODGE]. The reason why the Army feels it is necessary to have these aliens is based on several factors. In modern warfare Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 9224 Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JUNE 22 it is necessary to haa technicians of the highest character, people who can handle modern weapons, people who are familiar with the language spoken in foreign countries, people who are familiar with the terrain, and people who know some= thing about areas which are somewhat foreign to us. That is the reason why General Collins appeared before the committee in executive session as well as in public session and considered this new step highly important in the manage- ment of the Army. He feels it is neces- sary that.there be a small number ad- mitted into the Army. What do we offer these people in re- turn for enlisting? We say they must enlist, for a period of 5 years. If at the end of that period they obtain an hon- orable discharge and have been ordered to the United States and have been brought to this country by that means, then they will be eligible for citizenship. That is all the bill does. Mr. Speaker, I propose to offer an amendment to the committee amend- ment to strike out on page 3 the words "or earlier." The committee language was this: "pursuant to military orders shall, if otherwise qualified for citizen- ship, and after completion of 5 or more years of military service, or earlier if honorably discharged therefrom." The reason that prompted us to put the words "or earlier" in was that after the person enlists and serves a year or so he might be found to have some physical disabilities and therefore we would not want to hold him to the 5-year require- ment. But the more we thought about it, we thought we were on sounder ground if we struck out the words "or earlier" so that the person would have to be in the Army for at least 5 years. Mr. RICH. Mr. Speaker, will the gen- tleman yield? Mr. VINSON. I yield. Mr. RICH. What is the real purpose of taking a foreigner and putting him into our army when you can get men who have been naturalized who know all of these countries? We have people from all of these countries who already have become naturalized citizens of the United States. Mr. VINSON. That is a very impor- tant question. General Collins feels, and the Army feels, that it is highly de- sirable at this time to have a small num- ber of highly trained technicians, peo- ple who are familiar with every phase of life in other countries, so they can con- tribute their knowledge to the proper performance of military duty. Mr. RICH. Mr. Speaker, will the gen- tleman yield further? Mr. VINSON. I yield. Mr. RICH. If you want those men, do you know who they are? Mr VINSON. No. I do not know who they are. Probably the services do not yet know; but they know one thing, that there, are types of people abroad who would like to get into the Army, who can contribute certain important- knowl-edge to our Army, and by doing so, if honorably discharged and brought to this country-remember that-brought to this country, they will get citizenship. As a matter of fact, they may never come to this country. The Army may not or- der them here.' The Army may keep them abroad. If so, they do not get citi- zenship. ivfr. RICH. If he is a citizen of some foreign country, the Army cannot give him any orders at all that he will obey. He will obey the laws of his own coun- try. Mr. VINSON. But he cannot get into this country unless the Army orders him here. Mr. RICH. We have 13,000 aliens in the State Department, and if you can tell me where they are doing a good job for this country, then I do not know any- thing about it. Mr. VINSON. Well, we have all been considerably disturbed about various re- cent charges, but I am utterly confident that General Collins and the men who run the Army are not going to bring any Communists into the United States Army. I will speak without any reser- vation as far as the Army is concerned. Mr. 'WILLIAMS. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. VINSON. I yield to the distin- guished gentleman from Mississippi. Mr. WILLIAMS. It is my under- standing that the Army needs these peo- ple to perform certain specialized duties, such as interpreters, and so forth. In the light of that, is there any reason why those people could not be employed in a civilian capacity, rather than to take them into the Army? Mr. 'VINSON. Well, you would not have sufficient control over them. You must have people that you can direct and order in military matters. Now, I repeat that we asked General Collins to come into executive session on this.. I said, "Tell us how you are going to use these men," and he told us. I cannot divulge those things in public debate, but you can rest assured that the Army is not going to put any Com- munists in it knowingly, and these aliens are going to be in our service only after they have been most carefully screened. Mr. HOEVEN. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. ?VINSON. I yield to the distin- guished gentleman from Iowa. Mr. HOEVEN. Why is it necessary to have the approval of the Secretary of State? Mr. VINSON. As far as I am con- cerned,. I would just as soon have the approval of .the Army. I will go further and say that I am perfectly willing to have the scrutinizing done by commit- tees of Congress. We have plenty of precedent for that. I am perfectly will- ing to have the list of these men sub- mitted to our Judiciary Committee for consultation with the Department of the Army before they are admitted to the service. But these men should be in the Army because they can render great service to the Army. Only 2,500 are in- volved. Mr.HOEVEN. That is not the ques- tion; I want to know why we need the approval of the State Department? Mr. VINSON. I do not need the ap- proval of the Secretary of State as far as I ana concerned. That can be strick- en out, Mr. HOEVEN. Why is it in the bill? Mr. VINSON. Because Senator LODGE put it in the bill. So far as I am con- cerned it can be stricken out. Mr. WALTER. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? . Mr. VINSON. I yield. Mr. WALTER. What effect will the enactment of this legislation have on immigration quotas? ` Mr. VINSON. This is outside of im- migration quotas. I will be perfectly willing to accept an amendment--now listen, because you will want to know what I am talking about-that before any of these aliens 'are accepted by the Army consultation must be had with the Judiciary Commit- tees of the House and the Senate; be- cause we all have the same objective, we do not want anybody in our Army who should not be in that service. I am willing to accept any safeguard to see that we get the right recruits, re- cruits who can be of service and benefit to carry out any Army mission that General Collins feels is absolutely neces- sary. Mr. WALTER. I call attention to the picture at the left of the Speaker, the portrait of Lafayette; I remind the gentleman of Pulaski, V'on Steuben?, and others, men who took an illustrious Part- in our fight for independence. Mr. VINSON. That is quite different; they did not enlist in the Army of the United States; they were allies. These men, however, are going to enlist. Mr. WALTER. A moment ago the question was raised as to the reason for the inclusion of the Secretary of State. That is absolutely essential, as I see it, because the State Department occupie the position of screening all aliens tha come to the United States. Byincludifig-Okiii the authorization from the Secretary o! State it is certain there is no question but what the proper visa would be issued, Mr. VINSON. I hope the committee will give us a full opportunity to vote on the bill, so I trust the rule will be adopted; but I felt it necessary in ad- vance of general debate to make some explanation of the reasons behind the bill. Mr. JAVITS. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield for a question? Mr. VINSON. I yield. Mr. JAVITS. The gentleman empha. sized the point. about Communists; will the gentleman emphasize equally the fact that those with a Nazi or Fascist background are equally undesirable as far as our Army is concerned? Mr. VINSON. They will be screened; we will not have anybody but whose heart beats in harmony with ours. Mr. Speaker, I hope the committee will adopt the resolution, will debate the bill for an hour and will let the House vote on it. Mr. COLMER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 minutes to the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. ALLEN]. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may require. Mr. Speaker, I am opposed to this bill, because in times like these when we hear about all our other departments of the Government having Reds and Commu- `Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 9225 nists and subversives in them, above ,all, I want to see that the United States Army is 100 percent American. That is the reason why I am opposing this measure. I know that for many years there were certain individuals in our Government who have been attempting to get these foreigners into it. First they wanted -a foreign legion, then they wanted 25,000, but they found so much opposition among the membership of both bodies of Congress that they abandoned that and now they have finally got it down to 2,500. I think there is a statement in the re- port that is nothing less than an insult to the American soldier. It states that these foreigners, "the citizen candidate on his part gives us a rare human talent in highly specialized fields and will cer- tainly be of substantial value to our country." A Mr. Speaker, can you conceive that this * r Ill provides for boys of 18 years of age coming in and joining the Army and be- ing classified as specialists? As special- fists they will naturally obtain the rank of master or technical sergeant. It would be an insult to these men whom the Armed Services Committee is calling into the service and who may be special- ists if you do not give them the rank of master sergeant or technical sergeant. This putting of foreign boys 18 years of age over American boys who have been in the Army for many years is not fair. Mr. VINSON. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. I yield to the gentleman from Georgia. Mr. VINSON. The gentleman is in error in the line of argument he is mak- ,ing because this covers original enlist- ments. When they originally enlist they go in at the lowest grade, so, therefore, lould not come in as a technical sergeant. Jas Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. I am saying that this bill provides that these foreign- ers who come in are specialists at 18 years of age. The bil' itself stipulates they must be specialists and, consequently, if they are specialists they would be entitled soon, to become master or technical ser- geants and our own American boys who have served for many years would be under the orders of these foreigners. Mr. VAN ZANDT. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. I yield to the gentleman from Pennsylvania. Mr. VANS ZANDT. It is nothing un- usual for an alien who is a resident of the United States to enlist in our armed services. If the gentleman will go back through military history he will find res- ident aliens held responsible positions in the Army, Navy and Marine Corps and American boys submitted to their com- uands. Mr..ALLEN of Illinois. As far as I am concerned if I were in the Army I would not want some 18-year-old boy to come in and be my master sergeant or techni- cal sergeant. Mr. GROSS. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. I yield to the gentleman from Iowa. Mr. GROSS. Where are these for- 'eigners coming from? Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. I do not know what countries they are coming from. Mr. GROSS. Is there a lack of men wanting to enlist in the Army at the present time? Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. At the pres- ent time I believe they have more who desire to enlist-more American boys- than they will take. Mr. GROSS. Can the gentleman tell me what effect this sort of thing will have upon the 4,000,000 unemployed and on a lot of boys who have just come out of the high schools and colleges? Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Inasmuch as there are thousands of young boys-tens of thousands of them-coming out of the colleges with no work, who have engineering and other specialist learn- ing, perhaps it would be well to regard them as specialists. They are the ones who have lived in America. We should give them the master sergeant's position. Mr. McCORMACK. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. I yield to the gentleman from Massachusetts. Mr. McCORMACK. It is my impres- sion that the age limit set out in this bill is between 18 and 35. . Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. That is cor- rect, 18 to 35. In other words, this bill provides that a young foreigner 18 can be regarded as a specialist. They would come into the Army as specialists and consequently they would eventually re- ceive a specialist's rank as technical or master sergeant. Mr. CASE of South Dakota. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. I yield to the gentleman from South Dakota. Mr. CASE of South Dakota. I want to express the thought that if anybody enlisted at 18 comes in as an original enlistment and got any such rank there might be room for criticism. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. The bill pro- vides he must be a specialist. I will ask the gentleman how the average foreigner could be a specialist at that age? Mr. CASE of South Dakota. It is not limited to those who are 18. The age is up to 35 and they have that long to qualify as a specialist. Mr. JOHNSON. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. I yield to the gentleman from California. Mr. JOHNSON. A great many boys enlist who want to become specialists and they enlist at 18. They have to work up through the ranks before they can attain the rank of technical sergeant. None of these boys will go in as ser- geants; also, I want to point out to the gentleman that probably the vast ma- jority of them will be over 21 years of age because very few minors come to America before they are 21. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. It is the prac- tice of the Army if a specialist comes in for him to soon reach a sergeantcy. This bill provides that they must be spe- cialists in order to qualify. Mr. JOHNSON. The bill does not provide that at all. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. It provides that they must be a specialist. Mr. JOHNSON. That is not in the bill. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. What does this language in the report mean, then? What is the purpose of writing it in the report? Mr. JOHNSON. The purpose is to provide that they may become specialists. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. The purpose is stated. That is why they are brought in, because they are specialists. Mr. VAN ZANDT. I am afraid the gentleman from Illinois does not under- stand the real job to be assigned these individuals. They must have certain qualifications which security reasons will not permit me to mention at this time. But, I can assure the gentleman the spe- cialized ability of these individuals does not apply to the term "specialists" as the gentleman understands it. Mr. KEATING. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. I yield to the gentleman from New York. Mr. KEATING. In that same connec- tion I suggest to the gentleman that among the specialists, of course, would be those who had linguistic ability which some of our own people might not have, and that might enter into this picture; also I make the observation that in World War II there were a great many aliens who served in our Army and who served with great distinction and cour- age, and in recognition of that we passed a measure here to assist in their efforts to become American citizens. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, again I say that I personally would like to keep at least one depart- ment of this Government 100-percent American. Mr. COLMER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 10 minutes to the distinguished majority leader, the gentleman from Massachu- setts [Mr. MCCORMACK]. Mr. McCORMACK. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to proceed out of order. The SPEAKER. Is there objection tb the request of the gentleman from Mas- sachusetts? There was no objection. Mr. McCORMACK. Mr. Speaker, in relation to the pending bill, I think my distinguished and valued friend from Illinois [Mr. ALLEN] is unnecessarily alarmed. If I had any objection to the bill it would be the fact that it is con- fined to 2,500 only. But, that is satis- factory to me, because I recognize that committees have their problems, and I go along as far as I possibly can with committee reports. The committee has done an unusually fine job by the first amendment on page 2 which eliminates the possibility of any American foreign legion. I think the committee acted wisely in that respect, because in refer- ring to the foreign legion of any country, without mentioning any one country in particular, and I do not like to, some- times it brings about repercussions abroad that may be misunderstood when there is no offense intended, but, the first committee amendment on page 2 takes care of that and precludes, if it remains in the bill, which I assume it will, and becomes law, the possibility of any organization such as an American foreign legion being established. Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000,010.006-6 Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 9226 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE Mr. JOHNSON. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. McCORMACK. I yield to the gen- tleman from California. Mr. JOHNSON. Regarding the num- ber, the gentleman will note that Sena- tor LODGE had 10,000 in it, and our com- mittee, after considering it very care- fully, determined it was sort of an experi- ment, pioneering, and that we would sooner have a small number, and if proved to be successful that we could enlarge it. Mr. McCORMACK I had that in mind. I recognize that when the com- mittee reports out a bill, that It is the collective judgment of the committee, and while I might have some views in some respects to the contrary, I hesi- tate to go against a committee, even in part, when I am in agreement with the 'objective sought. I am supporting the bill. My remarks are not to be taken as criticism of any member of the commit- tee reporting' out this fine bill, and the two amendments adopted by the commit- tee are excellent amendments. They are not merely perfecting, but strengthen- ing amendments. Mr. CASE of South Dakota. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. McCORMACK. I yield to the gentleman from South' Dakota. Mr. CASE of South Dakota., I was hoping that the gentleman would oppose the amendment and let it stay at 10,000, because it seems to me the bill has merits on its face, If we cannot integrate 10,000 troops in the total Army, it would be surprising. Mr. McCORMACK. Of course, this bill will go to conference, and what will. be in disagreement will be 10,000 in one branch and 2,500 in the other. What I wanted to talk about was a matter that I consider of historic im- portance today taking place in Paris. Delegates from France, western Ger- m,Any, Belgium, Italy, The Netherlands, and Luxemburg met last Tuesday in Paris, France, in what may be a historic conference aimed at pooling their coal and steel production and to see if they can resolve the recent suggestions of Robert Schuman, Foreign Minister of France, and his French associates, into a practical and effective plan. What a great ideal to try to bring into agreement, operation, and effect by these six countries. As stated in part by Foreign Minister Schuman: It is our desire to associate in a common and permanent work of peacetime nations which for centuries have fought one another in bloody conflicts. He was referring, of course, to France and Germany. Through the successful welding of France and Germany together in this common effort there would be assured, as he said, the "certainty thus to banish from our European community a latent cause of trouble, suspicion, and an- guish," and this would be a basis to erect "a solid, European edifice accessi- ble to all nations of good will." What noble thoughts when he further said: We feel we are not permitted to fail, nor to quit without finishing the job. But no one has ever tried such a system as we have outlined. Never have the states conferred, nor even thought of delegating as a group a fraction of their sovereignty to an independ- ent supranational organization. He called for "a pioneering boldness which is too often absent from our inter- national institutions." I hope the representatives of the six countries attending this conference will do so with an understanding mind, not impugning the motives of anyone or any of the countries. If this is the animating spirit of 'the conference, and I am sure it is, no natter how far apart they may be during their deliberations they will be able to come to an agreement of historic importance. We of America will watch the delibera- tions, and hope and pray they will come to a successful conclusion. There is a great ideal that has been brought into this conference and which has brought the conference into being. It has as its objective the removal of some important economic factors that have caused Germany and France in the past to be suspicious of each other for centuries, all due to human weaknesses, and which have created fear, hostility, enmity,, and war, instead of understand- ing and confidence in each other, and friendship and peace. For if any decided step forward in understanding and trust and real friendship can be and is taken by France and Germany and the other four participating nations, a historic step has been taken toward European unity and permanent peace throughout the world. In connection with this conference a significant event happened in the elec- tions a few days ago in a part of Ger- many, where the Communist Party can- didates, who received 16 percent of the votes cast in the last election, received only about 5 percent of the votes cast a few days ago. Over 150 years ago the fathers of our country met in a Constitutional Conven- tion to establish a new government for the Thirteen Colonies who had success- fully won their independence from Great Britain, The delegates to that conven- tion met under most trying conditions. We know from history that they had a great and historic ideal in mind, the re- sult of which is our country today, which we enjoy and possess. We know from history the opposition they met, of their uncertainties, their despair many times of success, but they persevered and finally were successful. We know the great dif- ficulty they had in having three-fourths of the Original Thirteen States ratify the Constitution. Bute conditions existed that required solution, and men with great ideals and courage lived then, and difficulties that appeared insurmountable were overcome. Uncertainty and confusion vanished and a new notion was established, which is ours today. The delegates to the convention were men with ideals. They were men with understanding minds. They were deter- mined to succeed, and they did succeed. The framers of the Constitution and the founders of our Government had to meet, honest misunderstanding on the part of sortie; jealousy and prejudice on the part of others; they had to meet the doubt- ing Thomases also. They always exist. They had to contend with the blind and deliberate opponents to any form of gov- ernment other than a monarchy. They had to contend with those who, in their day, sought only personal or political ad- vantage even against the best interests of the 13 floundering States operating under "the Articles of Confederation. While the conference now going on in Paris is not for the purpose of establish- ing a new nation, it is a conference of historic importance. Its ideals are high and noble. Its purpose is to chart a new journey in Europe. However, there is a basic resemblance between this confer- ence and our Constitutional Convention of over 150 years ago. The delegates to the Paris Conference, I think it might also be called a convention, can learn much to guide and direct them in their deliberations and efforts from the de- liberations of the Constitutional Con- vention which brought the United States of America into existence. The free world and countless of millions of per- sons in Communist-controlled countries are watching and will watch with hope and prayers the outcome of this con- ference. A successful outcome will be one of the outstanding constructive events in the history of the world. The delegates of the six countries have grave responsibilities resting upon them, for the benefit or disappointment of not only this generation, but of many generations to come. . Mr. Speaker, I consider this confer- ence to be of such importance and the results which may flow from it to be of such historic importance to you and me and others of this generation as well as those of future generations to come, that notice should be taken of it in this body. I felt. it was my duty to do so and to Ask convey to the delegates to that confer- ence representing the six participating countries the fact that we are watching -it-not only countless of millions of Americans, but countless of millions of people everywhere, recognizing that if they can make a decided step forward, they will be overcoming human weak- nesses that have brought about wars in the past and they will be thereby strengthening the will of God, which is everlastingly present, and that they will be accomplishing something of benefit to the entire world for many generations to come. A successful outcome will be a decided step toward permanent peace. Mr. Speaker, the entire text of Mr. Schuman's statement on the steel- and coal-pool plan is as follows: TEXT OF SCHUMAN STATEMENT ON POOL PLAN Six weeks to the very day have barely elapsed since in this very room with historic memories the French Government made known its plan. Six weeks-a very short interval for such a new and vast objective as pooling the coal and steel production of our countries; very short when one thinks of the customary slowness of international transactions. France has been blamed for acting pre- cipitately. There has been talk of rapid and brutal tactics. But experience has shown us that the best initiatives are _ frittered away when, after their birth, they are delayed In preliminary consultations. Approved For Release 2000/08/25 CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 1950 Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE In a world anguished by so many set-backs and by impotence, I think we had the right- in fact, the duty-to count on the strength of the idea, to take advantage of the impetus given by the hope it has aroused and the instinctive support of our peoples. We are now here at' the beginning of our task. It is to you, gentlemen, that our six governments have confided the task of jus- tifying this hope. Your task is to express in elastic and clear language, with a view to preparing definite commitments, the prin- ciples that have determined the choice of our objectives and that constitute the basis of our deliberations. We are agreed on the orientation of our work, on the goal we wish to reach. Our gov- ernments have agreed to seek in common, by a free confrontation of views and special sit- uations, the best means of applying the prin- ciples that we have accepted by creation of new institutions without precedent in the present-day world. DECLARES TASK IS GREAT It is a great task, gentlemen, that the con- dence of our governments has conferred We undertake it with ride and on us u p . p conscious of our responsibilities, we feel that we are not permitted to fail or to give up without result, Moreover, our conclusions, as you know, will be submitted for the ap- proval of our governments and the sovereign decision of our parliaments. No one among us is unaware of the excep- tional difficulties of our undertaking. Ad- mittedly, we all have voluminous statistics at our disposal. We shall make good use of the impartial studies made previously on a national scale, as well as those made by international bodies. But never has a system resembling that which we have in view actually been at- tempted. Never have States entrusted nor even considered jointly delegating a frac- tion of their sovereignty to an independent supranational organization. We shall have to setup a draft treaty that, will define in broad outline the attributions of this joint authority, the way it will func- tion, the means of appeal against its deci- sions and of making its responsibilities ef- technical details that will be the objective of agreements to be concluded subsequently after ratification of the treaty. These con- yentions will have to be easy to revise so that they may be adapted to the lessons of experience. We wish to substitute for the ancient prac- tices of dumping and discrimination an en- lightened cooperation. That is essential. But what is equally important, and what from the very beginning has been inscribed in the forefront of the plan, is our determi- nation to associate in a joint and perma- nent task of peace two nations that for cen- turies have been opposed in bloody compe- tition. It is the certainty of thus eradicat- ing from our European community a latent cause of trouble, of mistrust, and anguish; It is the hope of erecting on this peaceful cooperation a solid European structure, accessible to all nations of good will. We earnestly would have liked Great Brit- ain to be present at our discussions. We cannot conceive of Europe without her. We know, and are reassured by this, that the British Government desires the success of our labors. Certain difficulties that have prevented her participating, actively, at least, at the pres- ent stage, appeared in the course of discus- sions that were both frank and friendly. We preserve the hope that the doubts and scru- pies that a somewhat doctrinal reasoning has failed to overcome will finally yield to more concrete demonstrations. No. 123-8 The French Government certainly will act in conformity with the desires of all the participating governments when it keeps the British Government informed of the develop- ment of our deliberations, and thus will insure it the possibility, if not of coming and joining us-which we persist in hoping-at least of sending us all its useful observa- tions, and thus prepare the way for future cooperation. The conclusions we shall reach will be the fruit of our discussions. Each one of you will contribute your suggestions and criti- cisms. We shall have a joint determination to succeed, to do something constructive, on the basis of the principles already defined. We shall be inspired by a youthful rashness that is too frequently absent from our inter- national institutions. Without losing sight of the individual needs of our countries we must be aware that national interests in these times consist in finding beyond our national boundaries the means of achieving a more rational economic structure, more economical and more in- tensive production, and a greater and more readily accessible market. Our initiative in no way is meant to ignore or misunderstand the attempts made else- where to give Europe a healthy economy. Mr. Stikker recently made an important and fruitful contribution to it. It is situated in a different sphere from our own. There is neither duplication nor contradiction be- tween our two objectives. The chief characteristic of the French pro- posal Is that, aside from its economic impor- tance, which is susceptible to developments that at the present moment cannot be guessed at, it has had and preserves a po- litical value that from the very first moment struck opinion in different countries more than anything else. For our part, we shall begin the work thus assigned to us. We shall first of. all have to adopt a method of working. It will be work in teams instead of a conference with me- ticulous and rigid rules. We shall all of us wish above all to be efficient. Brilliant elo- quence will not tempt us. An informative meeting tomorrow will en- able us to fix our ideas in this respect. They will be defined during personal contacts that we shall be anxious to establish and main- tain. The fundamentals of our problems will be taken up at the same time. The two cannot be separated. We shall pool our ideas, we shall put them up against each other and choose between them. The French Govern- ment will make known Its ideas to you in the next few days. The draft text it will submit will form the basis for work it hopes will be useful and fruitful. For today, I shall limit myself to wel- coming you in my Government's name, and expressing ardent hopes that we shall not disappoint the expectations of the peoples who place their hope and confidence in you. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from South Dakota [Mr. CASE] Mr. CASE of South Dakota. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to proceed on the same subject that the distinguished majority leader just discussed. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from South Dakota? There was no objection. THE FREE STATES OF EUROPE Mr. CASE of South Dakota. Mr. Speaker, I am not authorized to speak for the minority on this matter, but it ha~pens that during the Eightieth Con- 9227 gress in the fall of 1947'I was chairman of a subcommittee for Germany and Austria of the so-called Herter commit- tee, the Select Committee on Foreign Aid, and spent 6 weeks in Germany and Austria with a subcommittee of five members. The problem which the gen- tleman, from Massachusetts has dis- cussed was the basic problem with which we were concerned during the entire time tklat we were there, and that was the economic rehabiiltation of western Eu- rope and the part that western Germany might play in it. In that capacity we conferred not only with the German leaders but the French leaders in the French zone of western Germany and with British leaders in the English zone. When we returned we made a report, which included this recommendation: That the states of Germany which are free to do so be encouraged to form a con- stitutional government at the earliest pos- sible date; a government with powers derived from the member states, a government which other German states could join when free to do so, and free itself to join any federation of free states looking toward the economic stability of Europe and world peace. In concluding our report covering this and other recommendations, we said: The committee believes that carrying out these recommendations will go far in putting Germany on her feet, relieve the United States taxpayer of immense occupation costs, bring to the cause of world stability and European recovery the great capacities of the German people and aid much in developing the free states of Europe as a bulwark of world peace and free institutions. The report was signed: The subcommittee for Germany: FRANCIS CASE, South Dakota, chairman; JoHN M. VoRYs, Ohio; CHARLES W. VURSELL, Illinois; EUGENE E. Cox, Georgia; OVERTON BROOKS, Louisiana. So it is my sincere conviction, Mr. Speaker, that what is happening in Paris today is probably as important for the future of the world as anything can be. I would heartily endorse all that the distinguished majority leader has said as to the importance of what is going on there to all our deliberations here. All of these things that we talk about here- peace and the cost of Government-are definitely hitched up to wha4 may come out of the Paris conference. As a member of the minority I want to join in what the distinguished majority leader has said about the importance of what they are trying to do at the confer- ence. So, for myself, and I am sure for those who were on that committee, I wish for Premier Schuman and his asso- ciates the greatest possible success in what they are seeking to do at this con- ference in Paris. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. RICH]. (Mr. RICH asked and was given per- mission to revise and extend his remarks.) Mr. RICH. Mr. Speaker, I hold in highest regard the members of the Mili- tary Affairs Committee on both sides of the aisle, but I am greatly surprised at Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 9228 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE their bringing in a bill such as we have to consider today. They want to admit 12,500 more aliens, if necessary, Into this country above the quota. That is the first objection I have to the bill. The second objection I have to the bill is because they want the Secretary of State to pass on the men they are going to allow to come into the Army. of the United States, and go into foreign coun- tries where they learn everything about our own Army, and then, if they do not Want to join up as an American citizen, they are free to tell everything they have learned about the American Army. If that is good policy and good business, then I do not know what I am talking about. It is silly to me. Then I want to say further that I have the highest regard for the Military Af- fairs Committee, but I do not want to see them taken over like most of the mem- bers of our Foreign Affairs Coii rriittee is being taken over by foreign countries. We are getting so imbued with the ideol- ogy of these foreign countries that I won- der where our Americanism is going. I just cannot see it like they do. It is too much for me. It seems to me that these foreigners are pulling the wool over our eyes and we do not know it. This is poor judgment on the part of everybody who has any part in trying to pass this legis- lation. When you have 13,000 aliens in the State Department passing out the hard-earned dollars of our American taxpayers it is about time that the Amer- ican people woke up and realized what is going on. I just cannot understand what you are trying to do, putting 2,500 aliens in the Army. It is just too terrible to contemplate the ultimate results if they turn against America. Mr. VINSON. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. RICH. I yield to the gentleman from Georgia, chairman of the commit- tee, a man who I have the greatest re- spect for. Mr. VINSON, The gentleman said he was surprised that the Armed Services Committee reported such a bill. Does the gentleman know who the author of this bill is-the distinguished Senator from- Massachusetts [Mr. LODGE]? Mr. RICH. I do not care who the author of it is. I do not care whether he Is a Republican or a Democrat, or what he is. All I want him to be is a good, sound American, and. if he is a good, sound American, he will think deeper. These fellows who brought up this bill here have not been thinking deep enough, hard enough, sound enough for me. Mr. VINSON. Does the gentleman know that the Chief of Staff, General Collins, personally is appealing for this legislation? What comment has the gen- tleman about the Chief of Staff? He has 8lready made his comments about the committee and about the author of the bill. What is his comment about the Chief of Staff? Mr. RICH. I want the Chief of Staff of the American Army to get Americans. We do not have to get a lot of foreigners to run our Army, it is a sad commentary. I want the Chief of Staff of the Ameri- can Army to see that we educate our own -American boys to be in our Army. We have a lot of our American boys who are right here in America who want to go into the Army, men who know all about those countries, men whom you can trust, men who are good American citizens, born in America or naturalized American citizens, men that we are going to pay with American dollars, men that are Americans from the top of their head to the soles of their feet. That is what I want. I do not want any foreigners. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. RICH. Yes; I yield to my col- league who was kind enough to give me this time. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. I asked the gentleman to yield in order that I might ask a question of the gentleman from Georgia [Mr. VINSON]. Does this deny the American boy, if we reach a certain quota in our own Army, where there may be thousands of American boys trying to get into our own Army--will this hill, according to its lan- guage, deny 2,500 American boys the right to serve the flag which they ad- mire so much? Mr. VINSON, I would say it probably would not, because you will hardly ever be up to within 2,500 of our enlisted strength. It will not interfere with any enlistment in the Army. Mr. RICH. I will ask the gentleman from Georgia this question: There being a quota on the number of men in the Army, and we take in these 2,500 for- eigners, will not that necessarily deny such positions to 2,500 American boys? Mr. VINSON. Yes; it would, if you had only 611,000, and that is all the money you appropriated for. You might not have any money to pay for 2,500, so the 2,500 would not come in. . The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman from Pennsyl- vania has expired. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I yield the gentleman three additional minutes; and I will ask the able chair- man of the Defense Committee this question: I think the gentleman from Pennsylvania made a very thought-pro- voking observation when he said that the State Department approves of these in- dividuals coming into the Army. What will prevent left-wingers from coming over here, getting information from our Army in these enlistments and peddling It to their advantage to some other coun- try in the event some crisis confronts us? Mr. 'VINSON. If the gentleman from Illinois and the gentleman from Penn- sylvania think that General Collins and the men who run the Army will permit aliens who are communistic in thought to enter into the armed services, then they should vote against this bill. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Well, I think it. Mr. VINSON. And I want to say this in view of the way the distinguished gen- tleman from Pennsylvania has been criticizing the committee, criticizing the officers- Mr. RICH. No;.I said that the State Department was pulling the wool over the committee's eyes. I think you good men are being fooled terribly in this legislation. JUNE 22 Mr. VINSON. The gentleman was criticizing the committee; he was criti- cizing the author of the bill; he was criticizing General Collins. Mr. RICH. No, no, no; first, I am criticizing the Foreign Affairs Commit- tee-and I love every one of the mem- bers of that committee and the members of the Armed Services Committee-but you have just been hoodwinked. I want you to get your glasses on and see what is happening. That is the point I am trying to make here. Only sound Amer- icans should be in the American Army. Mr. VINSON. My glasses are on, and I am looking over them listening to the fallacy of the gentleman's argument; but at the same time I am trusting Gen- eral Collins. Strike out the State De- partment if that disturbs you. Mr. RICH. Well, you -ought to do that; you should do it, and only let good Americans in our armed services. Mr. VINSON. All right. I am going along with the bill. I have confidence in General Collins, and the American people have confidence in him. When General Collins comes behind closed doors after we had. held this bill in com- mittee for over a year and stated his reasons for wanting it, charged with the responsibility he is charged with, saying that we must have this small group, I am willing to trust him. Mr. RICH. We have the gentleman's own statement now that he held this bill up 1 year. You just did not hold it up 1,000 years long enough; yes, better still, forever. Mr. VINSON. That may be true. We would not have brought it out if General Collins, charged with this great respon- sibility, had not urged it. Mr. RICH. Let me ask the chairman of the Armed Services Committee this question: Why in the world does Gen'" eral Collins, head of our Army, want tt, go out and get 2,500 foreigners instead of getting 2,500 equally well-trained and competent Americans? That is what I want to know. Mr. VINSON. For the simple reason that he wants people In the Army who know the terrain, the language, the cus- toms, the philosophy, and the psychol- ogy of the people in countries that prob- ably he may have to deal with. Mr. RICH. For years we have been taking men from every country in the world into this country; they have be- come American citizens-good American citizens, naturalized. To say that we do not have qualified Americans to fill this need is ridiculous. It is a poor admis- sion by anybody in the Army or out of the Army. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman from Pennsyl- vania has again expired. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I yield four additional minutes to the gentleman from Pennsylvania. Will the gentleman from Pennsylva- nia yield? Mr. RICH. I yield. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. The chairman of the Armed Services Committee does not for one minute imagine that Gen- eral Collins, great man that he is, but busy man that he is, could personally Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 .1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 9229 supervise these enlistments and check American soldiers have for their service know, when things get that secret they against left wingers getting into the or do they get more benefits? do not usually amount to a hoot, anyway. armed services. Mr. VINSON. They will be enlisted I want to know if there is any person Mr. VINSON. I will say this, that with the same rights, the same privileges within the United States or elsewhere these men will be hand-picked and they and be dispersed through the Army like who is worth a tinker's hoot to this coun- will be combed arid the authorities will any other enlistee in the Army. try or any other country who would take know exactly what they are before they Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. They will not the citizenship of some other country in are taken in the Army. That is the rea- get more than the American soldier in order to sell out the people of his own son we have limited it to 2,500 men. benefits? country? .If he has a certain philosophy Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. I have heard Mr. VINSON. Every benefit that the in life and. has a definite belief, and if that expression before, especially in con- American soldier is entitled to he gets. he will swap that information that nection with the State Department and Mr. TACKETT. Mr. Speaker, will the might be detrimental to his own people the Secretary saying how clean his De- gentleman yield? to some other nation because they will partment was, yet other officials of the Mr. RICH. I yield to the gentleman give him citizenship and a few more dol- State Department came here at one from Arkansas. lars than he could get by serving his own time and stated that they knew there Mr. TACKETT. With all the talk people, then I guarantee you that that we're two or three hundred homosexuals that has been going on I have not been information is not worth a hoot, anyway. who, should be fired. able to ascertain yet, I have heard no one Mr. ABERNETHY. Mr. Speaker, will Mr. nURNSIDE. Mr Speaker, will say yet, what the purpose of this bill is. the gentleman yield? the gentleman yield?' Why do we need 2,500 aliens in the Mr. TACKETT. I yield to the gen- Mr, RICH. No; I asked for this time Army? tleman from Mississippi. to put across an idea, abut I have not Mr. RICH. I say we do not need Mr. ABERNETHY. I do not know of We have Americans enough, we anything that is dearer to the American The them elf t i . . o mys me ti much of the t a is Americanism is and should be the have Americans who are sound men who people than their citizenship. best citizenship in all the world. are naturalized American citizens, who Mr. TACKETT. But we are selling it The head of the Army, great general will fight for the country like our own mighty cheap now. that he may be, ought to realize that he boys have In all the wars that they have Mr. ABERNETHY. American citizen- should be able to get better results from been in. I do not believe in taking a lot ship is something which is coveted American citizens than from any for- of aliens and putting them in our Army around the world. Does not the gentle- eigner who was ever born. That is the regardless of where they come from or man think that we are lowering it to a what their nationality is or anything very ordinary category when we use it point I make. If we here in the Congress are American citizens we ought to insist else. I think it is wrong. That is the as a lure to get spies into the Army of on having an army of American citizens. matter I am talking about. the United States? We should not hire other citizens to be- Mr. TACKETT. Does the gentleman Mr. TACKETT. I cannot imagine tray their own country. The Good Book understand this is a swap whereby we anything that we could do that would says, "Lead not into temptation." We do guarantee some person on foreign soil so lower respect of those things that not want an army of foreigners. American citizenship if he will spy on our people have so prized in life as to Mr. BURNSIDE. Mr. Speaker, will his own country or some other country? offer American citizenship to somebody the gentleman yield? Mr. RICH. Yes; and when the 5 years that will come here and give us some r. RICH. I yield to the gentleman are up he goes back to his own country information about some other people- from' West Virginia. and tells them all the secrets he learned even his own people; in other words, 1,12r. BURNSIDE. I want to answer while a member of the armed services of we will give the sorriest man in the three questions that have been raised our country. It is wrong. I hope the world citizenship if he will be a dirty here. First, the Army is 25,000 under committee will take this bill back and spy. quota at the present time and this will keep it for just 1,000 years longer in com- Mr. RANKIN. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? America for Americans forever mittee . . t displace any persons in the Army; :grid, we were able to get many scien- Once an American always an American. Mr. TACKETT. I yield to the gen- .- h i z hi is tlema from Mississippi __ _______-_ that is ort c ti ens p ith our i pw "G `"? w could ?,,,.,.tha.h.. ---keworth fighting for. Love of country is Mr. RANKIN. To show you how easy New, which we used meth our greatest heritage. It is for one of these spies to cover up, go$ten if we had not used a method like k I i ld f th R er, y e evo- e Mr. COLMER. Mr. Spea 135 years after the close o this e 000 and, third, F 13 the State e Dee-s 6 minutes to the gentleman from Arkan- lutionary War the British Government l art fsment speaking clerks a about in n the S sas [Mr. TACKETTI. published a record that showed that ahead aead and and sent assistant clerks r Ameri- Mr. TACKETT. Mr. Speaker, I do Bancroft, Benjamin Franklin's secre- ii d if we went nt and ca ,over there to those places our cost not purport to know anything about tary, while he was in France, was a Brit- " of governirient would go up tremendously. this bill. For that reason I am not going ish spy, and when Franklin would send inst it But I hi et information it l d t f t E t , . or aga ng an o g o argue or m over o Mr. RICH. What does the gentleman c xe about the cost of government? He would like to have some facts in order instead of getting information, he would t i that I may know whether or not i s give Information to the enemy. doe been voting for everything. That the type of legislation I suspect it to be. does,-not seem to mean anything to a It is my opinion that this proposal It would be very easy for these spies lob pi' Members over on that, side. enlists 2,500 aliens into our armed serv- who would come in under this kind of a provision to undermine this country want soldiers who are Americans first ices for the purpose of obtaining infor- ,it and to take back the secrets that we are a , second `I want fellows in the Army mation from foreign countries by giving trying to protect. ' rom the top to the bottom who are go- some on foreign soil something they ~i to see that we have Americans to otherwise would not have less they be Mr. TACKETT. I want to ask some- ,L- America "It is about time that spies. We passed a bill of this sort last one, if it is not too big a secret to tell, o tr in t o mede Iii 611 the affairs do we need 2,500 men who happen to live dl p y year. It was so secretive we did not in Europe or on some other portion of gory nation iri the world. It is time even open our mouths about it. They lobe outside this country? Do we this g e look after the, citizens of this said, "Do not talk about it at all. It ... try and do it through and by citizens is too secret." You were then authoriz- need them, have we run out of people to - In our army is it. necessary for us up; oucac cu s~ , -- ---- - -- ---- e, ave a o eeneTits that'the _ not supposed to talk about it. You man from California. of Illinois, I would 11Ke uavc aa, auca you Juoo waUSY 4'- uc- L N L qs_~ e. airman o the Committee `cause you just want 2,500 spies. I guess Mr. JOHNSON. Mr. Speaker, will the L_..~ ., ~. gentleman vield? RICH. I eld to the gentleman whether 10,006 or h,500 should be en- ~t -yi lieving that they should tell on their own lipoiS,_ listed by virtue of this legislation. I nennip in turn for American citizenship? en snap yre d Now you get into an argument as to formation by luring someone into be ~prro\edFor Release 2000/08/25 : CIA-RbP57-0O384R001000010006-6 Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 8230 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE Mr. JOHNSON. Does not the gentle- here nor there, on the fact that when ?man realize that in America there are It came to real patriotism in this coun- a great many refugees from countries try my section had no superior. There- behind the iron curtain? There are fore, I can understand the alarm and thousands of them that have left their the concern of my friends and colleagues, country because the government has as I say, particularly from my section. changed and the entire life of the coun- But now let us see where we are on this try has changed. They have ideas like proposed legislation. we have, and it is those people that we This is nothing new, to begin with, would like to have in our Army, people about having aliens in our armed forces. who are thoroughly screened and who Why, in the very birth of this country, understand the situation In parts of the who contributed more, aside from George world where we have very meagre knowl- Washington, than the gentleman from edge. France, Mr. Lafayette? Who contrib- Mr. TACKETT. Why does not this uted more in taking our green enlistees bill say that? and turning them Into trained soldiers . Mr. JOHNSON. The bill could not than Von Steuben, of Germany? Who spell all those things out, in the very contributed more than Pulaski, of Po- nature of things, but that Is what the land, to whom monuments have been situation is. I want to point out one erected in this country? thing, if I may. Some people seem to Aside from that, modern warfare is be so jittery about foreigners. Sitting conducted in modern times on a differ- right in this Congress, one out of every ent basis, when every resource, when six men and women In this House of every technique has to be resorted to in Representatives is the son or the daugh- order. to win that war. We live In a ter of an immigrant. Their parents small world, a world that has shrunk were good American citizens. We think to a very small sphere compared with the screening process provided by our bill what it was a few years ago. We live will guarantee, beyond any question that In one world, whether we like it or do these soldiers will be .100 percent Amer- not 'like it. As far as I am personally lean. concerned, and I have often said this, Mr. TACKETT. Well, I do not know I should like to follow the admonition that that is anything to be all elated over. of the great father of this country to The fact is, though I do not know but beware of these foreign alliances and maybe we have two or three people here entanglements and live within ourselves. 'who are descendants from American In- If it were not for the smallness of this dians. I guess the rest of us come from world today, I would be the rankest iso- somewhere; I do not know where. That lationist in this body. I should like to Is not the argument. My goodness alive, get away from all of that, But we have 150 years ago a lot of your people did to face conditions as they are. some things that maybe you would not The SPEAKER pro tempore. ; The be proud of or I would not be proud of, time of the gentleman from Mississippi I do not know, but that is the poorest has expired. argument I ever heard of. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, Mr. RANKIN. Mr. Speaker, If the I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from gentleman will yield further, I want to Mississippi. call the attention of the gentleman from Mr, COLMER. I appreciate the cour- California to the fact that we had some tesy of my friend. of these refugees from behind the iron The chairman of the Committee on curtain, especially a couple of Eislers. Armed Services says he would be glad When we turned the spotlight onto them to take the State Department out of this. we found that they were Communists, I, too, have criticized the State Depart- traitors to this country, Gerhardt Eis- ment, but the State Department, Is put ler is over there now .leading a Commu- into this picture because it is the one nist drive in Germany. agency that is best set up and qualified Mr. TACKETT. I know if these 2,500 to screen these people who are going to people are all perfect, and if General be taken into the armed forces. If there whoever he is is going to personally is a better agency that can be set up, look after them, and he can keep his then substitute that when you have the hands right on them and not make one bill on the floor. mistake, it will be a wonderful Idea, be- Modern warfare, as I started to say, cause we can get some good information has changed. Conditions have changed from some other countries from some over there. We have to have confidence fellow that is willing to sell his own peo- in somebody. My first impression, when ple down the river. At the same time, if this legislation was brought up before you make one mistake, it will cost you a the Committee on Rules, was to oppose lot more than you will gain by taking in It. As a layman, as a civilian, as a Mem- these 2,500 people. ber of Congress, I cannot say what we Mr. COLMER. Mr. Speaker, I yield should have or should not have in our myself 3 minutes, armed services. But when the Chief of Mr. Speaker, I can recognize and ap- Staff of the Army of the United States preciate the differences of opinion that says that this is what we need, and that arise about this proposed legislation. I they want it, so that they can guard especially appreciate the fact that so them and watch them and screen them, much of the opposition to this proposed and if they commit sabotage against this legislation that has been expressed country or prove unfaithful,. they will be today, openly and privately, comes from subject to court martial, I cannot argue my section of the country.. I have al- against it. ways prided myself and my section, Let us not get unduly excited about justly or unjustly, and that is neither this. If, after giving mature judgment JUNE 22 and consideration to this, you do not be- lieve that it is a wise, patriotic thing to do for our country, then vote against it. But let us not get into hysteria on the question. Mr. RICH. Can you place more con- fidence in a foreigner than you can in an American citizen? Mr. COLMER. Of course not, my friend, of course not. That is not the issue here. The issue is simply whether we have enough confidence in those In charge of our armed services and the na- tional defense to give them the .weapons to properly defend this country. They say that they can best do that job by having these trained aliens, familiar with certain countries of Europe, the habits and secrets of the people and the governments of those countries, in our armed service. The Chief of Staff and his fellow'' ficers are trained In warfare. I al. layman. I am forced to rely on their judgment. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I yield `myself 3 minutes. Mr. Speaker, I did not think I was going to ask for a roll-call vote on the rule or on the bill itself, but after listen- ing to the debate here and not hearing one reason why we should have this measure passed, I certainly am going to ask for a roll call on both the rule and the bill. One thing has come out here. While General Collins, I believe, did come up and request this bill, there is nothing in the record where the Department of Defense or where Mr. Johnson or any of them came up and requested such a thing as this. I do not think anyone can dispute that some of these foreign boys would like to come into this coun- try and get benefits forever under syj a law as this. They would be h s to join the colors in order to recew.d' these benefits as technical master ser- geants and as specialists-benefits which they would get for the rest of their lives. Naturally they will join the American flag and perhaps it may be that some of them may turn over the information they receive as a result of holding these technical positions to the enemy. Mr. VINSON. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. I yield. Mr. VINSON. In view of the fact that the gentleman from Illinois pays so much attention to Mr. Johnson, I want to call his attention to what Mr. Johnson said: As indicated the Department of the Army testifies in support of the proposed legisla- tion. In so testifying, the Army is repre- senting the views of the Department as a whole. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Yes; that is right; that is the department as a whole. With regard to the quota of enlist- ments, there are now many American boys who want to join the American Army. If you add these 2,500 that will be denying 2,500 American boys the right to serve under the American flag, boys who will probably do a much better job than some of these foreigners. I appre- ciate that under the bill that anyone Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 CQNG.RR.ESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE opposing this bill will not have an op- Mr1v R. Mr. , Speaker, I move the .previous question. The previous question was ordered. The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Ti cp ss) , The question is. on the reso- lution. The question was taken; and on a di- vision (demanded by Mr. ALLEN of Illinois and Mr. RIcH) there were-ayes 73, noes 17. 9r,. RIC L'. 'Mr. Speaker, I object to ground that a the vot,e on the quorum is not present, and I make the point of order that a quorum is not-preesnt. The SPEAKER_ pro tempore. Evi- dently a quorum is not present. The Doorkeeper will close the doors, the Sergeant at Arms will notify absent Members, and the Clerk will call the `~ r^ll ]~ 111e question was taken; and there Fe-yep 232, nays 61, not voting 137, AS follows: [Roll No. 181] Ahbitt,.,, Douglas Kirwan Addonizlo Dgyle Klein Albert Eaton Kunkel Allen, Calif. Eberharter Lane Andersen, Elliott Lanham IT. Carl Ellsworth Latham Andrews. Elston LeCompte Arends Engle, Calif. LeFevre Aspinall Evins Lind Bailey Feighan Linehan Barden Fellows Lucas Ba}ring Fenton McCarthy Bates, Mass. Fernandez McConnell Battle Fisher McCormack Beckworth Flood McCulloch Benp,gtt, Fla. Forand McDonough Bennett Mich. Ford McGrath Bentsen Fugate McGuire BiemilIer Fulton McKinnon G dori , bsif ` , R.OOrsai Graham Brown, Ohio Grant Bpclianan Gregory Buckley, Ill. Quill Burleson Hagen lines . ? Gavin Magee Goodwin Marsallse Martin, Iowa 4( Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 YEAS-232 Martin, Mass. Meyer Michener Miles Miller, Nebr. Mills Burton Hall, Multer Byrne, N. Y. Leonard W. Murdock Byrnes,'Wis. Halleck Murphy Camp Harden Murray, Tenn. Canfield Hardy Nelson Cannon Harrison Nixon Cjrnahan Hart Noland Carroll Harvey Norblad I Case, N. J. Havenner Norton Case, S. Dak. Hays, Ark. O'Brien, Ill. Celler Hedrick O'Hara, Ill. atham Herter O'Konski Cbelf Heselton O'Neill ' Sullivan Che cley Hoffman, Mich. O C r ,otopher Holifleld Patten Clemente Holmes Peterson Cgoley Jacobs Preston Cooper Javits Price Corbett Denison Priest Crawford Jennings Ramsay Crook. Jensen Rhodes # ' hpjngham Jones, Ala. Robeson tis Jones, Mo. Rodino L'e Jones, N. C. Rogers, Mass. rennorf" - Tiiad "`-" - Rooney ~ ` ; F Keating: o, n .i1ourn nger` `-Kilday Short Slices Simpson, Ill.; Smathers Thornberry Widnall Spence Tollefson Wier Staggers Trimble Wigglesworth Stanley Underwood Wilson, Okla. Stefan Van Zandt Withrow Sullivan Vinson Wolcott Taber Vorys Woodhouse Talle Wagner Woodruff Tauriello Walter Yates Thomas Weichel Young Thompson Whitaker Zablocki NAYS-61 Abernethy Hull Rankin Allen, Ill. Jonas Reed, Ill. Allen, La. Kean Reed, N. Y. Angell Kearney Rees Barrett, Wyo. Kruse Rich Bishop Larcade Rogers, Fla. Bolton, Ohio McMillen, Ill. Scrivner Carlyle Mahon Secrest Cole, Kans. Mansfield Smith, Kans. Davis, Ga. Marcantonio Smith, Wis. Davis, Wis. Mason Tackett D'Ewart Murray, Wis. Teague Dondero Nicholson Velde Gathings Norrell Vursell Golden O'Hara, Minn. Whitten Gossett O'.Tbole Williams Gross Passman Willis Harris Patman Wilson, Tex. Hays, Ohio Pickett Winstead Hill Poage Hoeven Rains NOT VOTING-137 Anderson, Calif. Hebert Plumley Andresen, Heffernan Polk August H. Heller Potter Auchincloss Herlong Powell Barrett, Pa. Hinshaw Quinn Bates, Ky. Hobbs Rabaut Beall Hoffman, 111. Redden Blackney Hope Regan Boggs, Del. Horan Ribicoff Bolton, Md. Irving Richards Boykin Jackson, Wash. Rivers Breen James Sabath Brehm Jenkins Sadlak Brooks Kearns Sadowski Bryson Keefe St. George Buckley, N. Y. Kelley, Pa. Sanborn Bulwinkle Kelly, N. Y. Saylor Burdick Kennedy Scott, Hardie Burke Keogh Scott, Cavalcante Kerr Hugh D., Jr. Chiperfleld Lichtenwalter Shafer Chudoff Lodge Shelley Cole, N. Y. Lovre Simpson, Pa. Cotton Lyle Sims Coudert Lynch Smith, Ohio Cox McGregor Smith, Va. Dawson McMillan, S. C. Steed DeGraffenried McSweeney Stigler Dingell Mack, Ill. Stockman Dolliver Macy Sutton Doughton Marshall Taylor Durham Merrow Towe Engel, Mich. Miller, Calif. ? Wadsworth Fallon Miller, Md. Walsh Fogarty Mitchell Welch Frazier Monroney Werdel Gamble Morris Wheeler Gary Morrison White, Calif. Gillette Morton White, Idaho Gilmer Moulder Whittington Gore O'Brien, Mich. Wickersham Granahan Pace Wilson, Ind. Granger Patterson Wolverton Green Perkins Wood Gwinn Pfeifer, Hall, Joseph L. Edwin Arthur Pfeiffer, Hand William L. Hare Phillips, Tenn. So the resolution was r.greed to. The Clerk announced the following pairs: Mr. O'Brien of Michigan with Mr. Wolver- ton. Mr. Gary with Mr. Macy. Mr. Bates of Kentucky with Mr. Coudert. Mr. Burke with Mr. Towe. .j.. Jackson of. Washington with Mrs. St. George. Mr. Gilmer with Mr. Horan. Mr. Boykin with Mr. Jenkins. Mr. Miller of California with Mr. Kearns. Mr. Hebert with Mr. Chiperfield. 9231 Mr. Redden with Mr. Miller of Maryland. Mr. Mitchell with Mr. Lichtenwalter. Mr. Rabaut with Mr. McGregor. Mr. Cavalcante with Mr. Auchincloss. Mr. deGraffenried with Mr. Blackney. Mr. Fallon with Mr. Morton. Mr. Welch with Mr. Dolliver. Mr. Wickersham with Mr. Gwinn, Mr. Perkins with Mr. Hand. Mr. Wood with Mr. Hoffman of Illinois. Mr. Brooks with Mr. James. Mr. Morrison with Mr. Sadlak. Mr. Sadowski with Mr. Wadsworth. Mr. Moulder with Mr, Boggs of Delaware. Mr. Keogh with Mr. Patterson. Mrs. Kelly of New York with Mr. Potter. Mr. Heller with Mr. Engel of Michigan. Mr. Heffernan with Mr. Beall. Mr. Kennedy with Mr. Anderson of Cali- fornia. Mr. Joseph L. Pfeifer with Mr. August H. Andresen. Mr. Buckley of New York with Mr. Brehm. Mr. Chudoff with Mr. Cole of New York. Mr. Green with Mr. Gillette. Mr. Barrett of Pennsylvania with Mr. Hin- shaw. Mr. Lynch with Mr. Hope. Mr. Dingell with Mr. Taylor. Mr. Cox with Mr. Shafer. Mr. Fogarty with Mr. Simpson of Pennsyl- vania. Mr. Frazier with Mr. Stockman. Mr. Granahan with Mr. Hardie Scott. Mr. Regan with Mr. William L. Pfeiffer. Mr. Ribicoff with Mr. Gamble. Mr. Steed with Mr. Edwin Arthur Hall. Mr. Stigler with Mr. Hugh D. Scott, Jr. Mr. Irving with Mr. Werdel. Mr. Sutton with Mr. Wilson of Indiana. Mr. McSweeney with Mr. Sanborn. Mr. Mack of Illinois with Mr. Saylor. Mr. SECREST and Mr. MARCANTONIO changed their vote from "yea" to "nay." The result of the vote was announced as above recorded. The doors were opened. DEFICIENCY APPROPRIATION ACT, 1950 Mr. CANNON. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to take from the Speaker's desk the bill (H. R. 8567) mak- ing appropriations to supply deficiencies in certain appropriations for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1950, and for other purposes, with Senate amendments thereto, disagree to the Senate amend- ments, and agree to the conference asked by the Senate. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from Mis- souri? [After a pause]. The Chair hears none, and appoints the following conferees: Messrs. CANNON, MAHON, THOMAS, WRITTEN, TABER, and WIGGLES- WORTH. Mr. CANNON. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the conferees on the bill H. R. 8567 have until 12 o'clock tonight to submit a conference report. The SPEAKER, Ks there objection to the request of the gentleman from Mis- souri? There was no objection. The 'conference report and statement follow : CONFERENCE REPORT (H. REST. No. 8567) The committee of conference on the dis- agreeing votes of the two Houses on the amendments of the Senate to the bill (H. R. 8567) "making appropriations to supply de- ficiencies in certain appropriations for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1950, and for other purposes," having met, after full and free Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RD,P57-00384R001000010006-6 Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 . 9232 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE conference, have agreed to recommend and -do recommend to their respective Houses as follows: That the Senate recede from its amend- ments numbered 2 and 26. That the House. recede from its disagree- ment to the amendments of the Senate num- bered 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20,21, 25, 28, 29 and 30, and agree to the same. Amendment numbered 9: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amend- ment of the Senate numbered 9, and agree to the same with an amendment, as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed by said amend- ment, insert 11$122,500"; and the Senate agree to the same. Amendment numbered 10: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amend- ment of the Senate numbered 10, and agree to the same with an amendment, as follows: In lieu of the sum proposed by said amend- ment, insert "$100,000"; and the Senate agree to the same. Amendment numbered 14: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amend- ment of the Senate numbered 14, and agree to the same with an amendment, as follows: In lieu of the matter stricken and Inserted by said amendment, insert the following: "For 'Contributions for annuity benefits,' such additional amounts as may be necessary on account of the Act of September. 1, 1916 (39 Stat. 718), as amended." And the Senate agree to the same. Amendment numbered 19: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amend- ment of the Senate numbered 19, and agree to the same with an amendment, as follows: In lieu of the matter proposed by said amendment insert ", of which not to exceed $20,000 may remain available for obligation until July 31, 1950"; and the Senate agree to the same. Amendment numbered 22: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amend- ment of the Senate numbered 22, And-agree' to the same with an amendment, as follows: In lieu of the matter. proposed by said amendment insert ", of which not to exceed $127, 00 may remain available for obligation until,July 31, 1950"; and the Sedate agree to the same. Amendment numbered 23: That the House recede from its disagreement to the amend- ment of the Senate numbered 23, and-agree to the same,with an amendment, as follows: In lieu of the matter, proposed by said amendment, insert: "CONTROL OF FOREST PESTS "FOREST PEST CONTROL ACT "For an additional amount for 'Forest Pest Control Act', $2,000,000, to remain avail- able until June 30, 1951: Provided, That this appropriation shall be available from and including May 29, 1950, for the purposes of Such appropriation." And the Senate agree to the same. The committee of conference report in disagreement amendments numbered 11, 12, 24 ,and 27, .CLARENCE CANNON, GEORGE H. MAHON, ALBERT THOMAS, JOHN TABER, R. B. WIGGLESWORTH, Managers on the Part of the House. KENNETH MCKELLAR, CARL HAYDEN, RICHARD B. RUSSELL, STYLES BRIDGES, CHAN GURNEY, Managers on the Part, of the Senate. STATELONT June 30, 1950, and for other purposes, sub- mit the following report in explanation of the effect of the action agreed upon and recommended in the accompanying con- ference report as to each of such amend- ments, namely: DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Amendment No. 1 appropriates $160,000 for general supervision and instruction, public schools, as proposed by the Senate. Amendment No. 2 appropriates $32,400 for the municipal court, as proposed by the House, instead of $40,360, as proposed by the Senate. Amendment No. 3 extends the availability of funds for Glenn Dale Sanatorium, as pro- posed by the Senate. LEGISLATIVE BRANCH Amendments Nos. 4 and 5 appropriate $127,000 for contingent expenses of the Senate, as proposed by the Senate. Amendment No. 6 appropriates $2,000 for folding documents, as proposed by the, Senate. Amendments Nos. 7 and 8 appropriate gratuities to the widows of deceased Repre- sentatives, as proposed by the Senate. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE Amendment No. 9 appropriates $122,500 for legal activities not otherwise provided for, instead of $109,000 as proposed by the House, and $145,000 as proposed by the Senate. Amendment No. 10 appropriates $100,000 for contingent expenses, instead of $80,000 as proposed by the House and $114,000 as proposed by the Senate. Amendment No. 11 is reported in disagree- ment. Amendment No. 12 is reported in disagree- ment. Amendment No. 13 appropriates $90,000 for fees of witnesses as proposed by the Senate, instead of.$185,000 as proposed by the House. TREASURY DEPARTMENT Amendment No. 14 appropriates an indef- inite amount for contributions for annuity benefits, Secret Service Division, as proposed by the House, instead of $11,900 as proposed by the Senate. POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT Amendment No. 15 appropriates $54,200 for salaries of inspectors as proposed by the Senate. Amendment No. 16 appropriates $10,000,- 000 for rural delivery service as proposed by the Senate instead of $6,000,000 as proposed by the House. Amendment No. 17 appropriates $572,000 for salaries, custodial service as proposed by the Senate. DEPARTMENT OF LABOR Amendment No. 18 appropriates $64,127 for the office of the solicitor as proposed by the Senate instead of $113,000 as proposed by the House. Amendment No. 19 provides that not to exceed $20,000 of the appropriation for the office of the solicitor shall remain available until July 31, 1950, instead of an indefinite amount as proposed by the Senate. Amendment No. 20 appropriates $6,100 for the Bureau of Labor Standards as proposed by the Senate instead of $9,500 as proposed by the House. Amendment No. 21 appropriates $655,000 for the Wage and Hour Division as proposed by the Senate instead of $1,100,000 as pro- posed by the House. Amendment No. 22 provides that not to exceed $127,000 of the appropriation for the Wage and Hour Division shall remain avail- able until July 31, 1960, instead of an indefi- of .the two Houses on the amendments of DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE the Senate to the bill (H. R. 8567) making Amendment No. 23 appropriates $2,000,- appropriations to supply deficiencies in cer- 000 for forest pest control instead of $3,620,- tain appropriations for the fiscal year ending 000 as proposed by the Senate, such amount JUNE 22 to be available from May 29, 1950, and all obligations for such purpose incurred after such date to be charged to the appropriation herein provided. EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT Amendment No. 24 reported in disagree- ment. PUBLIC HOUSING ADMINISTRATION Amendment No. 25 provides that the ap- propriation shall remain available until June 30, 1951. NATIONAL ADVISORY COMMCrTEE FOR AERONAUTICS Amendment No. 26 appropriates $76,000,- 000 as proposed by the House instead of $78,- 500,000 as proposed by the Senate., DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE Amendment No. 27 reported in disagree- ment. PAY INCREASES-DEPARTMENT OF LABOR Amendment No. 28 provides that $120,000 of the funds for the Bureau of Labor Statis- tics shall be derived by transfer, as propo by the Senate, Instead of $85,000, as propo by the House. CLAIMS, JUDGMENTS, ETC. Amendments Nos. 29 and 30 appropriate $9,914,909.82 for payment of claims, etc., as proposed by the Senate instead of $8,627,- 922.79 as proposed by the House. CLARENCE CANNON, GEORGE H. MAHON, ALBERT THOMAS, JOHN TABER, R. B. WIGGLESWORTH, Managers on the Part of the House. ENLISTMENT OF ALIENS IN THE REGULAR ARMY Mr. VINSON. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House resolve itself Into the Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Union for the consideration of the bill (S. 2269) to provide for the enlistment of aliens in the Regular Army. The motion was agreed to. '_ Accordingly the House resolved ite into the Committee of the Whole Hot,.. on the State of the Union for the con- sideration of the bill S. 2269, with Mr. CARROLL in the chair. The Clerk read the title of the bill. By unanimous consent, the first read- ing of the bill was dispensed with. Mr. VINSON. Mr,. Chairman, the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. ALLEN] raised the question that the bill did not have the approval of the Secretary of Defense, Mr. Johnson. I desire to call to the attention of the committee the fact that in a letter dated January 25, 1950, written to me by the Secretary of the Army, the Secretary had this to say: The Secretary of Defense has delegated to this department the responsibility of ex- pressing the views of the Department of De- fense. The Department of the Army favors the enactment of H. R. 6140 subject to the amendments hereinafter recommended. So the committee can understand this is a departmental bill recommended by ,the Department of Defense and the re- sponsibility for its consideration was given to the Department of the Army. Mr. JOHNSON. M:r. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. VINSON. I yield. Mr. JOHNSON, Will the chairman please advise the committee whether the vote on the bill in committee was unani- mous? Approved For Release 2000/08/25 - `CIA-RDP57-00384RO0100001.0006-6 t r Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 9233 Mr. VINSON. I point out to the Com- -mittee that after two or three hearings, after Senator LODGE, the author of the bill, appeared in person, after General Collins had testified in open hearings as well as in executive session, after thor- ough debate in committee, the Commit- tee on Armed Services made a unanimous recommendation in support of this bill. Mr. Chairman, in view of what has been said, I propose to offer an amend- ment to strike out the wording with ref- erence'to the Secretary of State. I am not sharing, by offering that amend- ment, in some of the criticisms that have been made of the Secretary of State or his department, but I am eliminating the opportunity that the retention of 'those words in the bill might give to some as a ground for objection. So the bill will read, if that amend- ment is agreed to, "With the approval of the Secretary of the Army." Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Will the gen- Wteman yield? Mr VINSON. I yield. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Did the Com- mittee on Armed Services unanimously agree to the State Department doing the screening of everyone? Is it my under- standing that the Armed Services Com- mittee wanted the State Department to do all the screening and the final ap- proval? Mr. VINSON. If the gentleman from Illinois has the idea that the State De- partment does any screening, he is in error, Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Did your com- mittee unanimously approve doing the screening as the gentleman from Cali- fornia mentioned, when he said you had unanimously reported the bill? Mr. VINSON. The whole theory of the bill is that all the screening and the selection and the enlisting shall be done v the Department of the Army. So I X11 offer an amendment at the proper -- ' time to strike from this bill "the Sec- retary of State," giving complete con- trol of this legislation to the Department of the Army. That will eliminate the objection that some have made to the bill. Then, I will also offer an amendment on page 3 of the bill to strike out the words "or earlier." The effect of that is this: Under the committee amend- ment, before anyone could get citizen- ship, he must be ordered to this coun- try and must have served honorably for 5 years or have received an honorable discharge at the end of the enlistment or at an earlier date. So we will offer an amendment to strike out "or earlier." The effect of that is that he must serve not less than 5 years, must be honorably discharged, and he must be ordered to the United States. If he is not ordered to the United States, it makes no differ- ence how long he serves, he never can become a citizen of the United States. Now, let us be realistic about this. Suppose a certain alien is recruited in K:` ;tle Army from a country in Europe. He nevbrcomes to this country. He never becomes a citizen of the United States. If he is never ordered here, he does not become a citizen of the United States. If he is ordered here, and if he is other- wise qualified and has served 5 years hon- orably, then he is eligible for citizenship. Mr. STEFAN. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. VINSON. I yield. Mr. STEFAN. After 5 years can he take out his first papers, or does he au- tomatically become a citizen? Mr. VINSON, He must qualify after that, just like everyone else. Mr. STEFAN. In other words, he will have to wait 5 years more before becom- ing a citizen? Mr. VINSON. No. Mr. STEFAN. Then, he automati- cally becomes a citizen. I am afraid the gentleman did not clarify that. After 5 years he takes out his first papers, does he? Under the regular immigration laws an alien takes out his first papers. Mr. VINSON. He gets the same bene- fits automatically that the wartime alien received. Mr. STEFAN. That would be 1 year, then. Mr. VINSON. Yes. That is all the benefit he gets. Mr. STEFAN. Then, after 5 years, the 1-year provision applies? Mr. VINSON. Yes. Now, all this bill does is to permit the Department of the Army to recruit 2,500 people, to recruit them for a period of 3 years. They must be between the ages of 18-and 35. Let me call your attention to this: The demands of modern war and of modern military machines for highly technical, scientific, professional, and specially trained individuals are insatiable. The time has passed when a general practi- tioner in the art of warfare will suffice. The military now is a grouping of vast numbers of specially trained technicians in every field of human endeavor. This high degree of specialization and our world-wide interests, risks, and obli- gations have produced this program. It will open to our Army opportunities for obtaining exceptionally well qualified persons in fields which cannot be fully satisfied through our own manpower re- sources. Persons such as skilled lin- guists, persons who comprehend foreign customs, temperament, and phychology, who are intimately familiar with the ter- rain and local geographic features of various areas in the world, will be of ex- treme value to our Army and yet very difficult to obtain solely from among American citizens. It is such people that this bill contemplates will be ad- mitted into our Army. That is the whole purpose of the leg- islation, and it is also safeguarded as to citizenship. With the number admissible so lim- ited-only 2,500-there can be no doubt that those admitted will be of the very highest caliber and of the finest abilities. Because of these considerations the Army Chief of Staff, who appeared be- fore our committee both in open and in executive session on this bill, is very eager for the early enactment of this measure in order to get this important program promptly under way. Now, there is another important pro- vision in this bill. It is section 4, ap- pearing on page 3 of the bill. This section will qualify for American citizenship, within certain- limitations, the persons who enter the Army under this program. In order to qualify, these persons must first enter the United States pursuant to military orders. In other words, the Army must order them into the United States before they may qualify for citizenship. So, here is the situation on that: The alien enlists overseas if acceptable in all respects to the Army. He cannot get to the United States unless the Army orders him here. If the Army does not order him here, he can never become an Amer- ican citizen in this program. He will re- main an alien in our service abroad until and unless the Army terminates his service or he refuses to reenlist. So you see when he enlists abroad he must be ordered by the Army to come here before the benefit of citizenship can be given to him. The Army can keep him 5 years in his Army enlistment abroad, and he gets no benefit as far as citizenship is concerned, but if the Army orders him here, he qualifies for citizen- ship and needs only to file a petition of naturalization, or if he and his witnesses are examined by a representative of the Army they may be naturalized immedi- ately. Even then he must have com- pleted 5 years of service before he can qualify. I think that gives the committee all the information. There is nothing in this bill to get excited about. The De- partment of the Army sponsors it; Gen- eral Collins is asking for it; and I think it is a bill that will strengthen the Army. It is a bill that will not permit the Army to have saddled upon it some 2,500 Com- munists enlisting in the services. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Georgia has consumed 12 minutes. Mr. SHORT. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may desire. Mr. Chairman, when this legislation was first proposed to our committee, the gentleman from Texas [Mr. KILDAY] and myself both hit the ceiling. To say that we were surprised is putting it very mildly. Naturally, one would think of foreign legions, of hired Hessians, and wonder if we have reached such a low level in this country that red-blooded Americans are not any longer willing to face danger and, if necessary, die for their country but would have to depend on foreign mercenaries. That was one of the things that caused us some appre- hension in the beginning. Another was the thought if we would bring in the original number asked for, 25,000, we might get enough rotten apples in the barrel of our own Army to con- taminate our patriotic American soldier. That danger still exists to some extent because if we are frank and honest with you we will have to admit that this meas- ure carries some calculated risk. We run a risk when we bring aliens into our Army. They, I think, run an even greater risk because they give notice to their native countries as well as to America that their head is in a noose and they will have to exercise not only extreme caution but prove through trial under Close surveillance, after being carefully screened, and combed with a fine-tooth comb, that they are loyal and Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 9234 CONGRESSIONAL .RECORD-HOUSE patriotic to the Army in which they have entered. We all know of the deplorable state of affairs in Europe following the last global conflict, the complete destruction and utter devastation, the hopelessness and despair existing among the masses of the people. We know there are many people who because their forms of government have been changed, who because they suffered such political upheaval, social chaos and economic dislocation who now live in slavery and fear, would welcome the opportunity of entering the service of the United States Army in the hope of some day receiving citizenship, per- haps the greatest prize that could be offered to a distressed people in any sec- tion of this world. Modern mechanized warfare is no longer a simple matter. It is highly com- plex and technical. Some of us here who visited the,great underground fac- tory at Nordhausen in Germany 3 or 4 weeks before the surrender of the Reich went through 33 miles of subterranean passages where the V-1 and V-2 bombs were being manufactured. We had wit- nessed the appalling destruction in both London and Antwerp that was done by these missiles of death. We will have to frankly admit that in many respects the Germans were scientifically ahead of us, not only when it came to making up these bombs of destruction but also in the development of submarines of the snorkel type. If we can ggt some good German scien- tists, Czech engineers, and Balt brains, if we can get some men of high tech- nical skill-men who love freedom as most of the Polish loved it-we might use them to advantage, and do not forget the magnificent contribution that the Polish volunteers in the last war made to the winning of our victory, particu- `larly in Italy. Do not forget even what the Japanese out in Hawaii contributed in the same country-in Italy-in bring- Ing victory to the American forces. Look at the two portraits before you. George Washington, a British subject, led our American Revolution and Lafay- ette, a citizen of France, helped him win our independence. We do not have to question the patriotism of any of these foreigners or aliens who are willing to loin us because of their comparable po- litical background, because of their love of freedom, because of their devotion to liberty, because of their similar philoso- phy of life. Many of them are without a home or country and would not have 'to betray their native land. Mr. JOHNSON, Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. SHORT. I yield to the gentleman from California. Mr. JOHNSON. Will the gentleman kindly add the Italians who joined the Fifth Army to help us fight in Italy and Germany? Mr. SHORT. Not only the Italians who joined the Fifth Army but the un- derground in France and every other country invaded. Now, I think we learned, particularly you men here who were in active combat-certainly the author of this bill as an officer in the United States Army in Sicily, in north Africa, and in Italy-he learned through his on experience, as has, I am sure, our friend the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. 'VAN ZANDTI, out in the Pacific war- we learned the lesson in Africa, in Eu- rope, in the Pacific, wherever men fought that if we had had the advantage and the benefit of certain skills, knowledge of the language, knowledge of the topog- raphy, the geography, the terrain, the conditions in a particular area to be in- vaded, we would have saved many, many American lives. It is all a question of intelligence and it is all a question of knowing not only how strong you are but how strong or weak your enemy is; and if we take 2,500 men, which are not many when they are dispersed, but integrated among over 600,000, I think perhaps they will be able to give their commanders certaiin knowledge in the event of conflict and before invasion that will save many, many American lives. Let us be honest. This is a dirty business, but war is dirty. It is dan- gerous business, but war is dangerous. So while I was inclined at the beginning to vigorously oppose this bill, and while there are aspects to it that are repug- nant to the conscience of any decent human being, I am convinced, after we sat on the bill and after we heard the representatives of both the State and Defense Departments, the bill should be passed. Because we do have to have a State Department-I hope-that Members will not allow any precon- ceived notions or prejudices to have too much weight as they consider this par- ticular measure. We have our foreign embassies in all countries. We have our military and naval attaches. I think that today the Department of Defense and the Department of State must work more closely in unison and integration and cohesion than ever before. This last war taught us that lesson. But, whether you leave the State Department in the bill or take it out, I think that on the whole the measure is meritorious and.should be passed in the interest of the security and the defense of the United States. Mr. DONDERO. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. SHORT. I yield to the gentle- man from Michigan. Mr. DONDERO. Are we taking a new step today or is there any precedent in American history for an act of this kind? Mr. GAVIN. Mr. Chairman, I would like to, answer that question. Mr. SHORT. I yield to the gentle- man. Mr. GAVIN. I might call the atten- tion of the gentleman from Michigan to the fact that during the war years of 1941 to 1945 we had 117,000 aliens in the service of the Armed Forces, so there is nothing new in this legislation before us today. We have already established the precedent of enlisting aliens into the Armed Forces. Mr. VAN ZANDT. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. SHORT. I yield to the gentleman from Pennsylvania. Approved 'For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 JUNE 22 Mr. VAN ZANDT. It is a well-known fact that after World War I and World War II we granted citizenship to aliens who aided us to win both World Wars. Mr. MARCANTONIO. Mr. Chair- man, will the gentleman yield? Mr. SHORT. I yield to the gentleman from New York. Mr. MARCANTONIO. While that -statement is true, the fact should be pointed out that these so-called aliens, I prefer to use the term foreign born, who were residing in the United States and were called into the Army did not set up the fact that they were not citi- zens, but went in and. served and served honorably and well for our country, and that is why they became citizens of the United States later. But this is a dif- ferent situation. These are people who are living abroad and are not living in the United States and will become merely paid hirelings, present-day Hessians. Mr. VINSON. Mr. Chairman, will th~ gentleman yield? Mr. SHORT. I yield to the gentle- man from Georgia. Mr. VINSON. Let me call the atten- tion of the gentleman from New York to the fact that this involves the same principle and is the same thing seamen had. There are laws on the statute books today that an alien seaman can get citizenship after 5 years of service on a ship. The identical thing is in this bill. Mr. SHORT. May I also call the at- tention of the gentleman from New York to the language on page 2, lines 5 to 8: Persons enlisted under the provisions of this act shall be integrated into established units with citizen soldiers and not segre- gated into separate organizations for aliens. So they are no more citizens than the people who resided for a brief period in the United States before they went into the armed services. A few months o0i residence makes little difference. Mr. MARCANTONIO. I will tell the gentleman what makes the big differ- ence. It is the fact that a person has migrated to the United States, together with the fact that he has chosen our country as the land in which he wants to live. That man has the right to fight for the United States and should be given citizenship. But there is certainly a big difference between that situation and the situation where you take a hireling abroad and confer citizenship upon him, for what? Mr. SHORT. I may say to the gen- tleman, and the gentleman well knows it, and knows it as well or better perhaps than most of us, that there are hundreds of thousands of aliens and foreigners in other countries who have been more eager but less fortunate in getting to the United States than those who are already here. Mr. GAVIN. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. SHORT. I yield to the gentleman from Pennsylvania. Mr. GAVIN. I should like to call to attention of the gentleman my remarks made when this proposal was before the House in June 1948 about people who have no country to turn to. They are t Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-ROUSE 9235 Mr. SCRIVNER. That still does not answer the question as to what veter- ans' benefits these men will get whether they become citizens or not. Mr. VINSON. He gets no benefits un- til he becomes a citizen. He must be- come a citizen. Mr. SCRIVNER. I think the commit- tee should make that exceptionally clear in the bill. Mr. VINSON. He is an alien until he becomes a citizen, so that he can enjoy any benefits under any of our laws. Mr. SCRIVNER. He would be a vet- eran as soon as he is discharged. Mr. VINSON. He will not be a citizen. He is an alien in every sense of the word until citizenship is conferred upon him. Mr. SCRIVNER. Then I take it on the word of the chairman that he would not receive any veterans' benefit unless he becomes a citizen? Mr. VINSON. That is correct. Mr. SCRIVNER. Now the statement has just been made here that very few of them are going to take out citizenship papers-then where is the great reward that you are talking about in this bill? Mr. SHORT. They will get the pay of a United States soldier while they are serving for five long years. Some will become citizens but by no means all. . Mr. VAN ZANDT. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. SHORT. I yield. Mr. VAN ZANDT. Is it not true they will be on probation for about 5 years before being -granted citizenship?. Mr. SHORT. Absolutely. And they are watched and checked continually and carefully. Mr. VAN ZANDT. Also they will be under the strict observation of their commanding officer who will have to recommend whether or not they shall be granted citizenship? Mr. SHORT. They will be combed when they are brought in by the Army and they will be combed by the Depart- ment of State as well before they have the rights of citizenship bestowed upon them. Mr. MILLER of Nebraska. Mr. Chair- man, will the gentleman yield? Mr. SHORT. I yield. Mr. MILLER of Nebraska. The state- ment has been made that about 115,000 or 116,000 aliens were in the Army in the last war which just closed, and they were not citizens of the United States, as I understand it. Do they get benefits under the GI bill of rights, the same as men who are citizens of the United States? Mr. KEARNEY. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. SHORT. I yield to the gentle- man from New York [Mr. KEARNEY], who is a member of the Committee on Vet- erans Affairs, to answer that question. Mr. KEARNEY. If they are honor- ably discharged members of the armed services, they are entitled to the bene- fits of veterans legislation. Mr. MILLER of Nebraska. But under this bill unless they become citizens of the United States they are not entitled stateless people. - They cannot go back islands under attack, he would have lost to their own countries as they have no thousands upon thousands of lives. t t I said at that time: Mr. SHORT. There is no doubt about o t . ry o go coun Now as far as availability &f aliens is con- that. I think it is an accurate historical cerried for enlistment, it might be said there and military fact that has been estab- are a considerable number of Polish ex-serv- lished. icemen; and in Britain alone it is estimated Mr. REES. Mr. Chairman, will the there are about 110,000 of these men. How gentleman yield? many are in the United States and British Mr. SHORT. I yield. zones of Germany who could be enlisted in Mr. REFS. The thing that disturbs our Armed Forces, I am unable to say. But 1understand there are thousands of these me is that you have to put them in the stateless lien and that a great many are United States Army to get the informa- being used by our forces for civilian guard tion you are talking about. Can you not duty. secure the information without having to There are also a - great number of males take these people and putting them in from the Baltic States-Estonia, Latvia, and the United States Army to get that in- Lithuania-and some from Czechoslovakia formation which we are discussing now and Yugoslavia, who are most reliable and and which was mentioned by the gentle- have potential soldiers. Many of these men have basic military training and are well man from Pennsylvania? These people qualified to serve in our Army. who gave us the information that he So it is not a question of taking them talks about were not in our armed forces, -'~ into this country, they have no country were they? to go to. Mr. SHORT. No; but if they fought Here we have a group of mezl who are side by side with us and were a part of us, we would perhaps receive even greater stateless, who would be anxious to enlist help. If the thing does not become too in the services of the United States; who top-heavy it would work out, there is understand the characteristics and your danger. language of the country in which they Chairman, will would serve; who would be good soldiers Mrrr. a question? and do afine job for us. In fact, we have the gentleman DONDERO. SHORT. I yield yield. Mod. used them in a civilian status. I think Mr. Mr. SHORT. In other words, this this legislation is of great importance Mr. . intended . In to make a cons and will give us an opportunity to tap bill l is intsioneo our really t defense. this reservoir of manpower desirous of Mr. VINSON. Ynational es. enlisting in our services. Mr. DONDERO. That is what I This would give these soldiers and gather from the gentleman's speech. prospective citizens something to work Mr. SHORT. Absolutely. That is for, and during the 5-year period we the reason we reduced the number to could indoctrinate them with the funda- 2,500 because it is more or less a new mentals of Americanism and good citi- project. It is going to be a matter of zenship. If after rendering honorable trial and error. If it proves successful service and found qualified, they would then we can expand it and enlarge it. be in excellent condition to make good If it does not, we can get rid of it. sound American citizens. I think this Mr. SCRIVNER. Mr. Chairman, will is a great opportunity and this bill should the gentleman yield? pass overwhelmingly. Mr. SHORT. I yield. Mr. SHORT. God forbid that there Mr. SCRIVNER. What other bene- forced another conflict, but if we are fits will these men receive, besides the forced into it, I hope 'that when we in- it oportunity to take out American citi- a a fe few, we will wade soome me certain from m zenshi if they are ordered to this coun- people, ople, a sections few, Just the world have s try? I am referring definitely and par- , as We would like to talk about it, bu become American citizens unless they are said once in connection with the con- sideration country. of similar legislation, perhaps broughMr. t t to to this ER. The bill does not say the least we said about this in public that. the better off we all would be. Mr. SHORT. Yes it does but I dare __ dn-.. I yield to the gentleman ~~???~ ~?? ?~ -___ ________ ._ __ _ enns lvania. Mr. VINSON. The bill does say posi- tively that they get no benefits until they ar with General 1 etirbliul ? When the person becomes a citizen of the n hopping program in the Pacific? United States, he will enjoy every benefit ',VAl~I_GtllVLl, vvcac+ua+v~... ~.?n .- heyad of ens w o ;new the terrai_ Mr. SHORT. He gets no more and no A roved For Release 2000/08/25 CIA-RDP57-00384RO01000010006-6 those regions who do speak the language, titularly to veterans' benefits. What who do know the country, and who know will they get? conditions, and can advise our com- Mr. SHORT. They will be entitled to wanders intelligently as to the problems the same rights, benefits, privileges, pre- ahey are going to face when they go in rogatives and pay as any other enlistee in t in'd take over. That is the pur- the United States Army and no more. pose of of this bill. Mr. SCRIVNER. That is whether There is little that anyone else, I think, they come over here and take out Amer- coufd add to what our chairman has al- icon citizenship or not? ready given you. It is something that Mr. SHORT. No; they have to be- we cannot tell you everything about. come American citizens and they will not I t Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 IZ413 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JUNE 22 to any of the benefits of the GI bill of . Mr. SHORT. Yes, which says how long they shall re- rights? Mr. ELSTON. And, In the second main so. W. SHORT. That is right, place, they must be sent to this country Mr. SHORT. During his term of en- Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Mr. Chairman, on orders of military authorities? listment, I should think. will the gentleman yield? Mr. SHORT. Yes, sir. - Mr. VINSON. No. You cannot en- Mr. SHORT. I yield. Mr. ELSTON. And, In the third place, list anyone unless he is a single man. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. What would which has not been mentioned, they Mr. SCRIVNER. But he can enlist be the position of the individual soldier - must otherwise possess all other qualifi- today and get married the next day and in the event that the United States went cations of a citizen, develop a line of dependents, and in 5 to war against his country? Does he Mr. SHORT. Oh, yes. Yes. Abso- years he could have at least three. have to give up any allegiance to his own lutely. Mr. VINSON. They could not do that country while serving under the Stars Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chairman, will the without permission of the service. and Stripes? gentleman yield? Mr. SCRIVNER. There Is nothing in Mr. SHORT. Why, certainly, abso- Mr. SHORT. I yield. the bill that says so. lutely. If he does not, he would in all Mr. GROSS. It is presumed that these Mr. VINSON. He cannot do it, be- probability lose his head if he went back men are going to win stripes soon after cause that is during the term of his to his own country. they get into the American Army? Is enlistment. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. What does he that not right? Mr. SHORT. That is my under- have to do with regard to serving his Mr. SHORT. Yes. I hope so; they will standing. allegiance to his own country? be no good if they do not. Mr. SCRIVNER. There is not any Mr. SHORT. When he goes into the Mr. GROSS. What effect will that bar on it. United States Army he pledges , alle- have upon the morale of the American Mr. VINSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield glance and swears loyalty and fealty to Army? myself 2 minutes to clear up this matter.'" the flag, Constitution, and institutions Mr, SHORT. I think the American Is Anyone serving outside of the United of the United States. willing to compete with anybody at any States cannot get married without the Mr. ALLEY of Illinois. He takes the time, and if he is not willing to do it, permission of the cornmanding officer oath? then he should be ashamed to call him- under whom he serves. That applies to Mr. SHORT. Yes. If he is caught self an American. citizens, and it will apply In cases of reneging or, cheating, of course, it is, his Mr. .ROSS. But you are going to this kind. neck through court martial in our own bring those men in here and almost au- Mr. SCRIVNER. Let us follow that forces; or, if he tries to go back to his tomaticaIly bestow stripes on them. a little. Here, for instance, the enlistee own country, they would put him before Mr. SHORT. Oh, no. Not at all. could be the elder son or any son of the the firing squad the following morning. They come in as enlisted men, and they family; the parent dies; he has four or Mr. VAN ZANDT. Mr. Chairman, will serve through the grades. However, I five brothers and sisters dependent upon the gentleman yield? dare say the men who are chosen will be him. If they are actual dependents he Mr. SHORT. I yield, men who possess many skills and spe- is entitled to benefits for them under Mr. VAN ZANDT. Is it not true veter- cialized knowledge and are much the pay bill, just the same as our men ans of World Wars I and II were grant- smarter in some ways even than many are. ed a short cut to citizenship as a result Americans. I know they are much Mr. VINSON. He would be entitled of their honorable service during the smarter than I am. as an enlisted man to any benefits other wars? Mr. GROSS. Of course I would not enlisted men in the Army are entitled to. Mr. SHORT. Yes; that is true. admit that. . Mr. SCRIVNER. That is just exactly Mr. VELDE. Mr. Chairman, Will the Mr. SHORT. And we need that scien- what I figured. gentleman yield? tific training and technological develop- Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chairman, will the Mr. SHORT. I yield. ment. Americans should not think that gentleman yield? Mr. VELDE. Certain mention has we have a monopoly on all the wisdom Mr. VINSON. I yield. been made of possibilities of war. i and virtue there is in this world. Mr. GROSS. The gentleman presume you include in the realm of Mr. 'VINSON. Mr. Chairman, will cates his prede. possibilities a war with Russia. In the gentleman yield? answer on overseas service. what way would this help to get infor- Mr. SHORT. I yield. that There the man nothing will in be in this bill oveelrseas eas service that states tt oration from Russia about various fa- Mr. VINSON. I think the gentleman or any part of it. '01lities in Russia? should make it clear, and the committee Mr. VINSON. He has to enlist from Mr. SHORT. I am hopeful, myself, should understand, that anyone enlist- overseas, and he is kept overseas until that several of the Slavic countries be- ing now will get no benefits of the GI bill the Army orders him here. hind the iron curtain can furnish us of rights, because they all had to serve Mr. GROSS. The bill does not say so. with a few of this quota, because they during the other war. They apply only Mr. VINSON. Then if he is ordered possess a great deal of knowledge, not during that time, and they get no rights here, after serving 5 years honorably, he only about their own countries behind that the GI obtains on account of his is eligible for citizenship. That is all the iron curtain, but they possess consid- service during the war. He would get all the bill does. erable knowledge about Russia itself. benefits of an enlisted man, clothes, ra- Mr. GROSS. But this bill makes no Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Will the gen- tions, pay, and then he cannot get any- such provision. tleman yield for one further qeustion? thing until he becomes an American Mr. VINSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield Mr. SHORT. I yield. citizen. 5 minutes to the distinguished gentle- Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Was there any Mr. SCRIVNER. Not even peacetime man from Texas [Mr. GOSSETT]. testimony that this was the beiinning of disability pensions? a one-world army? Mr. VINSON. We have no peacetime Mn fished c a Mn Of the com the Mr. SHORT. No. None whatever. disability pensions. tee third was nota n ll to excited Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. It is not the Mr. SCRIVNER. Oh, we most cer- tee said this was not a ing to get exciteforerunner to bring us under one general tainly do, about, and I am :not going to get excited army? Mr. SHORT. Yes; we have peacetime about it; but I am opposed to the bill, Mr. SHORT. No, no. I think I can disability pensions, and I want to explain briefly tile reasons allay the gentleman's fears and appre- Mr. SCRIVNER. The question I want for my opposition, pensions on that score, to ask is this: As I read this bill, when Last year, if you_yyjll.,recall,.out o. la. Mr. ELSTON. Mr. Chairman, will the these men enlist they are to be unmar- sa=p4 , _ ee we passed a bill to er- gentleman yield? i e(~ aliens, me without dependents. nit the CIC-I believe that is rigs any- Mr. SHORT. I yield. V, ~"E Men without depend- way_Ge ?rces-toxng Mr, ELSTON. As a matter of fact, es; s ff; will be cheaper. il1Q s~ersola~; they_cou .,bring in anyone.. want there are three safeguards. First, they Mr was thought at that SCRIVNER i ' . . How long will they t me: must it was-7 s ve 5 years in the Armed Forces have to remain unmarried and without that such w of the United States. dependents? There is nothing in the bill ould ia1~e care nL,iemex gent ases of perso s fu;rnisnine info;- Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57;-003848001000010006-6 Approved For Release 2000/58/25 ' CIA-RDP57-00384RO01000010006-6 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 9237 mation to the armed? yice& Recently, in this session oMongress-and I want the gentleman to follow me here-re- cently, in, this session of . Congress we passed the Walter bill for selective im- migration, and we provided that a board should be set up composed of a epre- sentative-from each of Commerce,-State, Justice, Labor, and the armed services- five on this board-to pick 2,500 per year. They could just give an immigration visa to any person they wanted, regardless of who he was or his place in line. That would take care of persons of peculiar skills or those whom we thought might be of service to this country. My opposition to this bill is that it is a new gadget, of which we have too many already, for obtaining American citizen- sLip. My guess is that if this bill should become law probably a million ' aliens would like to enlist, because it certainly ?vould be a bonanza for them; the emolu- ments and privileges of service in the American Army certainly exceed those of most jobs and professions abroad. I am just a little tired of passing legisla- tion year in and year out, multitudinous legislation, because some general in the armed services, or some secretary comes in and says, "We need it; we want it." I do not know the parentage of this par- ticular bill, but I fear it is ill-conceived. Mr. VI;NSON. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. GOSSETT. I yield. Mr. VINSON. I certainly trust the gentleman will not-try to convey the thought to this committee that we 35 men are pushed around by generals be- cause they just want this or just want that done. If there is any committee of Congress that is independent and that is independent in its thinking, it is the Armed Services Committee. Mr. GOSSETT. I concede to my good ~lend that he has a very distinguished %~ommittee; but, unfortunately, the com- mittees of this Congress-and that ap- plies to all of us-generally tend to lean too heavily upon the bureaus and agen- cies whose business they handle. Mr. VINSON. This committee does not do it; this committee does its own thinking. That is the reason why we are oftentimes in controversy with the departments. Mr. GOSSETT. And there are some members of the gentleman's committee who are not very well sold on this bill, I might say, notwithstanding the atmos- phere of unanimity the gentleman seeks to throw around it. What I am trying to say is that we have already taken care of this situation in the bill passed last year and in the bill now pending in, the other body. And let me make this point: The dis- tinguished Member of the other body who authored this bill, after his return from Europe, recommended the discharge of all aliens in the State Department. Now he wants to employ aliens abroad in the American Army. Reference has been made here to the citizenship provisions that we extended to aliens serving in wartime. Those were aliens resident in this country. This bill sets up a complete new de- parture from any policy that has ever heretofore been followed in this country, and I submit it is a dangerous policy, a needless policy, an unnecessary policy, and that we should not pass this type of legislation. Mr. REES. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. GOSSETT. I yield to the gentle- man from Kansas. Mr. REES. There is another thing that disturbs me. Under this bill, we are holding out to a foreigner, a man who lives in a foreign country, the promise that, if he will relinquish his citizenship, his allegiance to his own country, then he can join the American Army and have the benefits same as our armed forces. It seems to me it is a rather strange sit- uation when we have to go through this process to protect ourselves and our country against a potential enemy or an enemy we think we may have later on. We tell a fellow in some foreign country who joins our forces that, in the event we have to go to war with his country or any country, "You must give up all of your rights and relinquish your citizen- ship and join the American Army." Mr. GOSSETT. We are asking the man to forswear his allegiance, assum- ing thereby we will make him a better servant of our own. Mr. REES. Which to me is a rather strange situation, especially considering this is a peacetime measure. Mr. VINSON. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. GOSSETT. I yield to the gentle- man from Georgia. Mr. VINSON. In answer to the gen- tleman from Kansas, my viewpoint would be that a great many people are in coun- tries that are dominated by outside coun- tries, and therefore this gives an oppor- tunity to serve where he feels he can be of some benefit. Mr. GOSSETT. We are not setting up the American Army as an escape avenue for people who may want to run away from their own country. The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from Texas has expired. Mr. VINSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield the gentleman one additional minute. Let me ask the gentleman from Texas this question: Is it not a fact that a similar kind of provision exists in ref- erence to serving by aliens under the seamen's law? Mr. GOSSETT. That is true, and I think that act ought to be repealed. It is bad legislation. Mr. VINSON. I have a copy of it be- fore me. We are doing no more by this bill than is already on the statute books in reference to serving on ships as sea- men, is that not correct? Mr. GOSSETT. That Is correct, but one bad law does not justify another bad law. These persons who are going to foreswear and repudiate allegiance to their own country would not be the sort of individual we would want to make an American citizen. That is the sort of person you are inviting by this legis- lation. If he is not a good citizen of the country for which he refuses to fight and the country that he deserts, he is not going to be a very good citizen of this country. Let me remind the committee that this bill obligates us, as a matter of fact, to give the enlisted alien citizenship. The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman has again expired. Mr. VINSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 1 minute. Mr. Chairman, I want to call the com- mittee's attention to the fact that for 10 years there has been on the statute books an act providing that aliens who volun- teer, and serve honorably for a period of 3 years on our ships at sea, automatically get citizenship if their service has been satisfactory. So what is the use of get- ting disturbed about this legislation? Mr. MARCANTONIO. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. VINSON. I yield to the gentle- man from New York. Mr. MARCANTONIO. Does not the statute provide that these seamen must have been lawfully admitted? Mr. VINSON. No; it does not pro- vide that at all. He is not even ad- mitted. He enlists when the ship goes abroad and he makes a contract and serves for 3 years. We already have a law like this, and everybody is getting excited about extending almost the same provisions to the Army. Mr. JOHNSON. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. VINSON. I yield. Mr, JOHNSON. The big point is that the people we propose to enlist are with- out a country. They are all over there in the occupied areas. Mr. VINSON. That is it exactly. Mr. JOHNSON. They cannot go back to the Baltics and the other countries. Mr. VINSON. Mr. Chairman, if there are no further requests for time, I ask that the bill be read for amendment. The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will read. The Clerk read the bill, as follows: '* Be it enacted, etc., That, with the ap- proval of the Secretary of State, the Secre- tary of the Army, under such regulations as the Secretary of the Army may prescribe, is authorized until June 30, 1951, to accept original enlistments in the Regular Army for periods of not less than 5 years of not to exceed 10,000 qualified unmarried aliens (without dependents as defined in sec. 4 of the act of June 16, 1942 (56 Stat. 381), as amended), who are not less than 18 years of age or more than 85 years of age; and, with the approval of the Secretary of State, to accept reenlistment of any such alien upon the expiration of his original term of enlist- ment for such period or periods as the Sec- retary of the Army may determine. SEC. 2. Provisions of law prohibiting the payment of any person not a citizen of the United States shall neither apply to aliens who enlist in the Regular Army under the provisions of section 1 of this act nor to their dependents and beneficiaries. SEC. 3. So much of section 2 of the act ap- proved August 1, 1894 (28 Stat., chs. 179, 216; 10 U. S. C. 625), as amended, as reads "; and In time of peace no person (except an In- dian) who is not a citizen of the United States or who has not made legal declaration of his intention to become a citizen of the United States, shall be enlisted for the first enlistment in the Army" is hereby sus- pended until June 30, 1951, with respect to enlistments made under section 1 of this act. SEC. 4. Notwithstanding the periods set forth therein, the provisions of section 324A of the Nationality Act of 1940, as added by the act of June 1, 1948 (Public Law 567, Approved For Release 2000/08125: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP51-00384RO01000010006-6 .8238 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 80th tong.), are applicable to aliens en- listed or reenlisted pursuant to the pro- visions of this act. Any alien enlisted or reenlisted pursuant to the provisions of this act who subsequently enters the United States or an outlying possession thereof (in- . cluding the Panama Canal Zone, but ex- eluding the Philippine Islands) pursuant to military orders shall be deemed to have been lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence within the meaning of such section 324A. With the following committee amend- ments : Page 1, line 5, strike out "1951" and insert "1953." Page 1, line 6, after the word "enlistments", insert "or reenlistments." Page 1, line 8, strike out "ten thousand" and insert "two thousand five hundred." Page 2, line 5, after the colon, insert "Pro- vided, That persons enlisted under the pro- visions of this act shall be integrated into, established units with citizen soldiers arid not segregated into. separate organizations for aliens." Page 2, line 21, strike out "1951" and in- sert "1953." The committee amendments were agreed to. The Clerk read as follows: Committee amendment: Page 3, line 1.0, after the word "shall", insert the following: "if otherwise, qualified for citizenship, and after completion of five or more years of military service, or earlier if honorably dis- charged therefrom." Mr. VINSON. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment to the committee amend- The Clerk read as follows: Amendment offered by Mr. VINSON to the committee amendment: . Page 3, line 11, strike out the words "or earlier." The amendment was agreed to. The committee amendment as amend- ed was agreed to. Mr. VINSON. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment., The Clerk read as follows: Amendment offered by l(Sr. VINsON: On page 1, strike out lines 3 and 4 and insert in lieu thereof the following: "That the Secretary of the Army, under such reg- lations as the Secretary of." And on page 2, strike out lines 1 and 2 and insert In lieu thereof the following: "35 years of age, and to accept reenlistment of any such alien upon." Mr. VINSON. Mr. Chairman, I desire to state that this Is the language that I offered to strike out, so that no one has any authority over this except the Secre- tary of the Army. Mr. STEFAN. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment. Mr. Chairman, I listened very carefully to the debate on this particular phase of this bill, that is, that part of it which relates to the Department of State. I hope the gentleman will withdraw this amendment, and I will tell you why. The United States has about 300 missions scattered over the world today. They are expected to be our first line of de- fense. In each of these missions we have the chief. He is the sole repre- sentative of the United States in that part of the world. Under him we have various employees who are the eyes and ears of our bovernment, In some of these missions we have military, naval, and air attaches. All foreign affairs and contacts with foreign governments must be cleared through these missions and eventually through the Department of State at home. These missions handle all of our foreign problems including the questions of immigration. This bill is in part a problem of immigration but main- ly it is part of the stockpiling against a probable future emergency. ,it stock- piles men into our service. The Chief of National Defense and the Chief of our Army say it. is necessary. That is a must in the plans for future defense. But the plans for future defense is an all- inclusive one. It brings together not only the armed services but our Foreign Service and the State Department are on this defense team. Each is part of the defense wheel and the Foreign Serv- ice and the State Department are most important spokes in this wheel. The amendment of the chairman of the Armed Services Committee is dangerous because it tears out two important spokes and entirely bypasses the State Depart- ment which now deals with these prob- lems of aliens in foreign lands who want to come to our country. No matter what any of you think personally about the Secretary of State or the State Depart- ment I urge you to vote against this amendment. This country must have a good Department of State and a good Foreign. Service and neither should be bypassed in legislation dealing with our serious defense problems. If we want teamwork do not start breaking up the team with amendments such as this one. Mr. VINSON. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. ' STEFAN. I yield to the gentle- man from Georgia. Mr. VINSON. I would say in response to the gentleman's observation that the State Department further than being mentioned In this bill is bound to be in the picture. The State Department un- der the National Security Act is in all phases of the Army, Navy, and Air de- fenses. Under that act they are con- versant with each other. Even though you leave out the Secretary of State, no man, I am satisfied, would be enlisted unless the Secretary of State was cogni- zant of the importance of these various enlistments. So I do not think it would hurt to-leave out that phrase. The rea- son the gentleman has just advanced was the reason we put it in, but the gen- tleman heard the debate. Mr. STEFAN. I have heard the de- bate, and I think it is a dangerous prece- dent you are setting by your amendment. Mr. VINSON. It might be. So let us do this. The committee heard the de- bate. :[f the committee want to leave it out, let them leave it out. If they want to keep it in, let them keep it in. It is immaterial to me. The committee wanted it in, but to meet certain objec- tions that were being raised to this bill I offer this amendment to give the com- mittee an opportunity to decide on it. Now, if they want to vote it out, let them vote it out, but let us vote on it. Mr. STEFAN. In spite of my admira- tion for the chairman of the Committee on Armed $ervices, I must oppose his JUNE 22 amendment. It shows lack of confidence of a very important part of our national defense team. I urge the Committee to vote against the amendment. The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Georgia [Mr. VINSON]. The question was taken; and on a divi- sion (demanded by Mr. ALLEN of Illi- nos) there were-ayes 1.4, noes 58. So the amendment was rejected. Mr. GOSSETT. Mr. Chairman, I of- fer an amendment. The Clerk read as follows: Amendment offered by Mr. GossETT: On page 1, line 9, after the word "unmarried", insert "male." Mr. VINSON. Mr. Chairman, we ac- cept the amendment. It was never in- tended that anyone except male aliens would be enlisted in the service. r~r The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the gentle- man from Texas [Mr. G-OSSETT]. The amendment was agreed to. The CHAIRMAN. Under the rule, the committee rises. Accordingly the Committee rose; and the Speaker having resumed the chair, Mr. CARROLL, Chairman of the Commit- tee of the Whole House on the State of the Union, reported that that Commit- tee; having had under consideration the bill (S. 2269) to provide for the enlist- ment of aliens in the Regular Army, pur- suant to House Resolution 649, he re- ported the bill back to the House with sundry amendments adopted by the Committee of the Whole. The SPEAKER. Under the rule, the previous question is ordered. Is a separate vote demanded on any amendment? If not, the Chair will put them en gross. ~1 The amendments were agreed to. The SPEAKER. The question is on the third reading of the bill. The bill was ordered to be read a third time, and was read the third time. The SPEAKER. The question is on the passage of the bill. The question was taken; and on a di- vision (demanded by Mr. ALLEN of Illi- nois) there were-ayes 80, noes 21. Mr. ALLEN of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a quorum is not present, and make the point of order that a quorum is not present. The SPEAKER, Evidently a quorum is not present. The Doorkeeper will close the doors, the Sergeant at Arms will notify absent Members, and the Clerk: will call the roll. The question was taken; and there were-yeas 201, nays 84, not voting 145, as follows: [Roll No. 1.82] YEAS-201 Abbitt Bentsen Burnside Addonizio Biemiller Burton Albert Boggs, La. Byrne, N. Y. Allen, Calif. Bolling Byrnes, Wis. Anderson, Calif. Bonner Camp Arends Bosone Canfield Aspinall Boykin Cannon Bailey Bramblett Carnahan Baring Brown, Ga. Case, N. J. Bates, Mass. Brown, Ohio Case, S. Dak. Beckworth Buchanan Celler Bennett, Fla Buckley, Ill. Christopher Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-0Q384R001,000010006-6 :'Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 1950 Clernente Colmer Combs Cooley. Cooper Corbett Sys, Ark. Nixon edrick Noland eseTton Norblad ,Crawford Jenkins Crook Jennings Grosser Jensen Cunningham Johnson Curtis Jones, Ala. Vague Jones, Mo. Davenport Judd Davies, N. Y. Karst Davis, Tenn. Karsten Dawson ' Kearney DeGraffenried Keating Denton Kee Dollinger . Kilburn Dondero Donohue. bughton Doyle Eaton Elliott Lane Elston Lanham Engle, Calif. LeCompte )'eigha'n Fellows :MIC'Ptofl Qrand V6id Fugate "r Tfon Fufco1o axmsitz Mack, Wash >vin Madden oiTwin Magee rdoi Marsalis orskl Martin, Iowa Quill ' Michener j jell, Miller, Nebr. g~}ird W. Mills eok ' Morgan Jail Murdock rori Murphy Phillips, Calif. Poulson Preston Price Priest Ramsay Rhodes Riehlman Robeson Rodino Rogers, Mass. Roosevelt Sasscer Scudder Shelley Sheppard Short Sikes Simpson, Ill. Smathers Staggers Stanley Stefan Sullivan -Taber Talle Tauriello Thomas Thompson Thornberry Tollefson Trimble Underwood Van Zandt Vinson Vorys Wadsworth Wagner Waiter Weichel Widnall Wigglesworth Wilson, Okla. Withrow Wolcott Woodruff Young Zablocki thews Hagen Pickett ~g$]f Harris Poage Ch=gsney 'Kruse Smith, wig, ;fevenger_` -Larcade Tackett Gamble Gary Gillette Gilmer Gore Granahan Granger Green Gwinn Hale Hall, Edwin Arthur Hand Hare CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE Holmes O'Brien, 111. Howell O'Konski Huber O'Neill Jackson, Calif. O'Sullivan Jacobs Peterson Javits Philbin Kilday King Kirwan Klein Kunkel Lesevre Lind Linehan Lucas '"McConnell McCormack McCulloch McDonough McGrath McKinnon McSweeney x4winkTd- - '-Engel, Mich. zrdicic'` . -Evins Hebert Heffernan Heller Herlong Herter Hinshaw Hobbs Hoffman, Ill. Hope Horan Irving Jackson, Wash. James Kearns Keefe Kelley, Pa. Kelly, N. Y. Kennedy Keogh Mason Merrow Miles Miller, Calif. Miller, Md. Mitchell Monroney Morris Morrison Morton Moulder O'Brien, Mich. Pace Patterson Perkins Pfeifer, Joseph L. Pfeiffer, William L. Phillips, Tenn. Latham Plumley Lichtenwalter Polk Lodge Potter Lovre Powell Lyle Quinn Lynch Rabaut McGregor Redden McGuire Regan McMillan, S. C. Ribicoff McMillen, Ill. Richards Mack, III. Rivers Macy Sabath Marshall Sadlak Martin, Mass. Sadowski St. George Sanborn Saylor Scott, Hardie Scott, Hugh D., Jr. Shafer Simpson, Pa. Sims Smith, Ohio Smith, Va. Spence Steed Stigler Stockman Sutton Taylor Teague Tows Velde Walsh Welch Werdel Wheeler Whitaker White, Calif. White, Idaho Whitten Whittington Wickersham Wilson, Ind. Wolverton Wood Woodhouse So the bill was passed. The Clerk announced -the following pairs : On this vote: Mr. Chatham for, with Mr. Whitten against. Mr. Towe for, with Mr. Horan against. Mr. Hand for, with Mr. Hoffman of Illinois against. Mr. Lodge for, with Mr. Dolliver against. Mr. Coudert for, with Mr. Smith of Ohio against. Mr. Sadowski for, with Mr. Pace against. Mr. McGuire for, with Mrs. Woodhouse against. Mr. Mack of Illinois for, with Mr. Teague against. Mr. Wolverton for, with Mr. Mason against. Mr. Kearns for, with Mr. Macy against. Mr. Herter for, with Mr. McMillen of Illi- nois against. Until further notice: Mr. Jackson of Washington with Mr. Keefe. Mr. Rubicoff with Mr. Auchincloss. Mr. Steed with Mr. Taylor. Mr. Stigler with Mrs. St. George. Mr. Regan with Mr. Gamble. Mr. Miller of California with Mr. James. Mr. Wickersham with Mr. Hinshaw. Mr. Whittington with Mr. Gillette. Mr. Redden with Mr. Stockman. Mr. Wheeler with Mr. Simpson of Pennsyl- vania. Mr. Mitchell with Mr. Gwinn. Mr. Sutton with Mr. Hale. Mr. Wood with Mr Patterson. Mr. Dingell with Mr. William L. Pfeiffer. Mr. Barrett of Pennsylvania with Mr. Cole of New York. Mr. Whitaker with Mr. Beall. Mr. Green with Mr. August H. Andresen. Mr. Perkins with Mr. Boggs of Delaware, Mr. Joseph L. Pfeifer with Mr. Latham. Mr. Rabaut with Mr. McGregor. Mr. Sabath with Mr. Werdel. Mr. Evins with Mr. Wilson of Indiana. Mr. Frazier with Mr. Shafer. Mr. Hebert with Mr. Hardie Scott. Mr. Keogh with Mr. Hugh D. Scott, Jr. Mrs. Kelly of New York with Mr. Brehm. Mr. Heller with Mr. Chiperfleid. Mr. Lynch with Mr. Cotton. Mr. Heffernan with Mr. Engel of Michigan. Mr. Delaney with Mr. Edwin Arthur Hall. Mr. Kennedy with Mr. Hope. Mr. O'Brien of Michigan with Mr. San- born. 9239 Mr. Eberharter with Mr. Potter. Mr. Kelley of Pennsylvania with Mr. Phil- lips of Tennessee. Mr. Gary with Mr. Miller of Maryland. Mr. Morrison with Mr. Martin of Massa- chusetts. Mr. Hobbs with Mr. Saylor. Mr. Gilmer with Mr. Velde, Mr. Herlong with Mr. Sadlak. Mr. Cavalcante with Mr. Morton. Mr. Chudoff with Mr. Merrow. Mr. Irving with Mr. Plumley. Mr. O'HARA of Illinois changed his vote from "present" to "nay." Mr. THORNBERRY changed his vote from "nay" to "yea." Mr. WIER changed his vote from "yea" to "nay." The result of the vote was announced as above recorded. The doors were opened. A motion to reconsider was laid on the table. STILL FURTHER MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE A still further message from the Sen- ate, by Mr. Carrell, one of its clerks, an- nounced that the Senate had passed a joint resolution of the following title, in which the concurrence of the House is requested: S. J. Res. 190. Joint resolution extending the period of effectiveness of the Selective Service Act of 1948 15 days. EXTENDING SELECTIVE SERVICE ACT OF 1948 Mr. VINSON; Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent for the immediate consideration of Senate Joint Resolution 190, extending the period of effectiveness of the Selective Service Act of 1948 15 days. The Clerk read the title of the joint resolution. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from Georgia? Mr. MARCANTONIO. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, I realize if I objected to the present consideration of the resolution, a rule would be obtained and it would be called up tomorrow. That would only inconvenience the mem- bership so that they would have to come back here tomorrow when I understand it is intended that we adjourn over until Monday. Therefore, nothing would be accom- plished by objecting at this time except to delay the matter 24 hours. Mr. McCORMACK. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. MARCANTONIO. I yield. Mr. McCORMACK. In order that the RECORD might show that the assumption of the gentleman from New York is cor- rect, I will state that that is correct. Mr. MARCANTONIO. I thank the gentleman. Therefore, Mr. Speaker, I shall not object to the present considera- tion of the resolution. However, I want the RECORD to show my consistent and conscientious opposition to any form of selective-service legislation. The.SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from Georgia? There was no objection. Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384ROO100001OOO6 9240 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. The Clerk read the joint resolution (S. J. Res. 190), as follows: Resolved, etc., That subsection (b) of sec- tion 17 of the Selective Service Act of 1948 as amended by striking out "the second an- niversary of the date of enactment of this title" and inserting in lieu thereof "July 9, 1950 " The joint resolution was ordered to be read a third time, was read the third time, and passed, and a motion to re- consider was laid on the table. ADJOURNMENT OVER Mr. McCORMACK. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that when the House adjourns today it adjourn to meet on Monday next. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to .the request of the gentleman from Mas- sachusetts? There was no objection. SIGNING OF ENROLLED BILLS AND JOINT RESOLUTIONS Mr. McCORMACK. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that notwith- standing the adjournment of the House it may be in order for the Clerk to re- ceive any messages from the Senate, and the Speaker be authorized to sign any enrolled bills and joint resolutions duly passed by both Houses and found truly enrolled. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from Mas- sachusetts? There was no objection. EXTENSION OF REMARKS Mr. PATTERSON (at the request of Mr. MICHENER) was given permission to extend his remarks. Mr. BOGGS of Louisiana asked and was given permission to extend his re- marks. Mr. PETERSON asked and was given permission to extend his remarks and include a citation issued to his colleague, Mr. BENNETT of Florida. Mr. TEAGUE (at the request of Mr. PRIEST) was given permission to extend his remarks in two instances and include extraneous matter. Mr, WICKERSHAM (at the request of Mr. PRIEST) was given permission to ex- tend his remarks. Mr. GAVIN asked and was given per- mission to revise and extend his remarks made in Committee of the Whole. Mr, STEFAN asked and was given per-, mission to revise and extend his remarks made in Committee of the Whole. . Mr. DAVENPORT asked and was given permission to extend his remarks and include extraneous matter. Mr. DONOHUE asked and was given permission to extend his remarks and include extraneous matter. PROGRAM FOR NEXT WEEK Mr. HALLECK. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to proceed for 1 Minute. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from In- diana? There was no objection. Mr. HALLECK. I would like to inquire of the majority leader if he can advise as to the program for next week. Mr. McCORMACK. I should be very glad to do so. Monday is District Day. There are seven bills on the District Committee agenda. I am not sure if they will be called up in this order, but I am stating them in the following order for the in- formation of the House. H. R. 2887, known as the architect's registration bill. H. R. 6669, the rent control bill. H. R. 7881, known as the dead human bodies bill. H. R. 8055, relating to banks, demand items. H. R. 8709, relating to the health officer and assistant. H. R. 8710, relating to the Eastern High School Stadium. H. R. 8782, relating to nurseries and nursery schools. On Monday we are hopeful that the Rules Committee will report out a rule making in order consideration of the tax bill. I have no knowledge now what pe- riod of time the rule will provide for, but upon the assumption that there will be 2 days' debate, then the tax bill will be taken up Tuesday and Wednesday. Of course, Wednesday is primary day in Georgia, and in accordance with the policy of respecting that in the case of all States, if the program is carried out, the roll call will take place on Thursday. If we are not fortunate enough to have the Rules Committee report out a rule on Monday-and I hope it will-and they report it out later in the week, of course the tax bill will come up next week. Any conference reports, of course, are always in order for consideration. That is subject to giving the membership proper notice? if they are important ones. Any further program I will announce later on, if there is any for next week. I would like to get in as much as I can next week because, while I cannot make any definite commitment now, I am hopeful that the week of July 4 will be a very light one. The only difficulty may be the conference report on the selective- service legislation. We have extended it until July 9, which is on a Sunday, as the Senate passed the resolution. I am hope- ful?that if there is any requirement for a conference that the conferees may be able to iron out their differences next week. Mr HALLECK. Of course since the 9th of July does come on Sunday and would be the expiration date of the 15- day extension Just passed, might it not be possible that another temporary ex- tension could be had, that would not necessitate the presence of all Members during the Fourth of July week? Mr. McCORMACK. Exactly. That could be done. I am glad the gentleman from Indiana referred to it, because that is a very proper contribution to make. In other words, if the conferees canont get together next week and there is a prolonged conference, both branches could provide for a further extension of time. 'Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. HALLECK. I yield. Mr. BROWN of Ohio. I have asked the gentleman to yield in view of the JUNE 22 statement made relative to a possible rule being granted in connection with the tax bill. I have just informed the majority leader and the minority leader that both the chairman of the Ways and Means Committee and the ranking Re-, publican member have informed me that they will request it rule for 2 days' de- bate on the bill. Mr. McCORMACK. I am very glad to get that information. I did not have that information and my announcement of the program was predicated upon the assumption which the gentleman kindly confirms. Mr. HALLECK. I might say to the gentleman from Massachusetts that, of course, I am in complete accord with the arrangement in respect to the Members from Georgia and their primary on next Wednesday. It just so happens, how- ever, that out in Indiana both parties are having their State conventions, which is a matter of some consequence to all of us from Indiana. I take it the leadership will be seek- ing a closed rule on the tax bill, Mr. McCORMACK. Yes. Mr. HALLECK. If that is granted, then on Thursday the business would simply be calling the roll on the motion to recommit and the passage.of the bill, if a roll call should develop. Mr. McCORMACK. Exactly. I find it difficult at times to make a pro- gram that will be pleasing to everyone, but I am sure the Members know I do my best to have the program of the House that will be pleasing as far as humanly possible to the membership on. both sides. If by meeting an hour earlier on Thurs- day next it would be of assistance I would be glad to do it, and I am sure that the membership of the House would concur in such action. Mr. HALLECK. I was on the point of suggesting, in view of the situation of the Georgia Members with respect to their returning to Washington and other Members who would be away, that it would be a good thing. I am glad the majority leader has that in mind, be- cause I am convinced that it would be of considerable assistance to the Members. Mr. McCORMACK. If the gentleman from Indiana desires that, I hope he will confer with me next week. Mr. HALLECK. Yes; I shall be glad to do that, and I may say to the gentleman that I am glad to hear his announcement for the week of the 4th of July. We have been working here quite steadily, and as far as I can discover, the House is right well up with its work. Mr. McCORMACK. The House has been most cooperative. I have expressed my appreciation before, and I cannot emphasize it too strongly. We are caught up, and I do not know of anything now which will not permit an exceedingly light week, if there be anything at all for the week of the Fourth. But, of course, I would like just a slight leeway to protect myself, because I feel obli- gated to carry out any absolute state- ment I make to the House. I should like a slight leeway in case something should Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384R001000010006-6 Approved For Release 2000/08/25: CIA-RDP57-00384ROO1000010006-6 `1950 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD 'SENATE of June 30, or some such date. How- ever, Mr. President, there is no deadline so far as the adoption of this conference report is concerned. There is no rea- son in the world why the Secretary of Agriculture has not already announced his 1950 wheat program, unless he arbi- trarily sees fit to hold it up in an at- tempt to force Congress to adopt this conference report. If any farmer in the Midwest or elsewhere is having any trou- ble in getting his loans, I wish he would tell us about It, because there is abso- lutely nothing which prohibits the Sec- retary of Agriculture from taking care of all the farmers in this matter; and certainly they should be taken care of, regardless of whether we as individual Senators agree on the law which is now on the statute books. I am not going to object to the pro- posal to postpone the vote on the con- ference report until Monday; but I do not wish the Senate to be under the mis- apprehension that a deadline is involved, or to operate under any alleged threat from the administration that there is a deadline which much be met or other- wise the agricultural program will be sabotaged.' The Secretary of Agriculture has am- ple funds now on hand to carry out his announced programs and I will discuss this phase further Monday. Furthermore I call particular. atten- tion to the fact that this Corporation which is seeking another $2,000,000,000 has still not submitted their audited re- ports to the Congress for their operations during the period since June 30, 1947. And as I pointed out last week, the Cor- poration as of June 30, 1947, found it necessary to write off over $96,000,000 in ,order to balance their books. So far as I am concerned those books for the years 1948, 19.49-are going to be delivered to the Senate before they get another dime. Mr. THYE. Mr. President, will the Senator Yield? Mr. MYERS. I yield. Mr. THYE. The "Senator from Dela- are has said there are ample funds, and that there is no reason why the Secre- tary of Agriculture cannot announce the program. The Senator is correct, in that the funds mailable are ample to permit announce ent of a support pro- gram for wheat, nd possibly to permit announcement ofa support program for some of the other basic commodities which may come 1o harvest early in this particular calendar year. However, let is remember that the diversified farm r and the other type of farmer-as distinguished from wheat, cotton, or corn, farmers-have just as much right to the Commodity Credit Corporation funds as any other groups of farmers do If the Secretary of Agriculture were to obligate all the pres- ent funds to the crop now coming on- poultry, pork, dairy products, c; As fruits or some of the other non sacs. tY11n tie Secretary of Agriculture Approved 9r?Rgl.ease ~'00O/O8125. : CIA-RDP57-0038:4ROQ1000010006-6 9259 page 1, line 6, after "enlistments", insert "or reenlistments"; on, page 1, line 7 and 8, strike out "ten thousand" and insert "two thousand five hundred"; on page 1, line 8, after "unmarried", insert "male"; on page 2, line 4, after "determine", in- sert "; Provided, That persens enlisted under the provisions of this Act shall be integrated into established units with cit- izen soldiers and not segregated into sep- arate organizations for aliens"; on page 2, line 17, strike out "1951" and insert "1953", and on page 3, line 3, after "shall", insert "if otherwise qualified for citizen- ship, and after completion of five or more years of military service, if honorably dis- charged therefrom." Mr. LODGE. Mr. President, this is a Senate bill which was reported unani- mously by the Armed Services Committee of the Senate. It was passed by the Senate unanimously. The purpose of the bill is to authorize the enlistment in the Army of 10,000 selected aliens. The House took the Senate bill as reported by the Senate Armed Services Committee, but reduced the number from 10,000 to 2,500. It was then passed by the House, yesterday. Let me say that the bill is strongly de- sired by the Chief of Staff of the Army, which is due to the fact that World War II proved that it is vitally necessary that we have within the ranks men who un- derstand the languages, customs, people, terrain, and weapons of different nations. I know of no objection to the bill. The change from 10,000 to 2,500 has the ap- proval of the chairman of the Armed Services Committee, the Senator from Maryland [Mr. TYDINGS], with whom I have consulted. I therefore move that the Senate agree to the House amend- ments. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The question is on the motion of the Senator from Massachusetts. The motion was agreed to. INCREASE IN BORROWING POW OF COMMODITY CREDIT CORPO ION- of the report of the co crease the borrowing Senate now has under , conferees appointed H. R. 6557. I may g votes of the . 6567) to in- now up to the Senate to do likewise, in order that the l$ll may be sent to the President for hi$ signature. I thought it might be advisable at this time for me to give a brief history of the amendment to section 22 of the Agricultural Adjustment Act, as it has been made part of the report we are now considering. It will be recalled that the Senate adopted the House version of the bill and added to it the so-called Magnuson-Morse amendment, which seeks to amend section 22 in three re- spects. Under section 22 of the present law, whenever the President has reason It In regard to the perishables or the nonbasics, as well as the basic com- modities, the price of which by law the Secretary of Agriculture is mandatorily bound to support,, The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection to the u animous consent re- quest of the Senator from Pennsylvania? The Chair hears n ne. - Mr. WILLIAMS Mr. President, I should like to reply to what the Sena- tor has just said, but before doing so, I have no objection: to having the unani- mous-consent agreement entered into. The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator reserve the right to object? Mr. MYERS. lIr. President, is the unanimous-conse If it is, I shall t ,was agreed to. objection? The Ordered, That o SON. Mr. MYERS. the reply. I do not object. OFFICER.. Is there hair hears none, and sent entered into. onsent agreement, as is as follows: the calendar day of 950, at the hour of 4 enate proceed to vote, pate, upon the question onference report on the increase the borrowing dity Credit Corporation. hat the time between 12 k p. in. on said day be veep those favoring and eport and controlled, re- SLENDER and Mr. MAGNU- President, I yield to Delaware. FS. Mr. President, I y, in reply to what the nnesota has just said, from Minnesota was fact that the combines .g in the Midwest, and there were going to be L serious problem. the Senator will permit a correction, V did not refer to com- bines operating n the Midwest, but in the extreme SouthWest. - Mr. WILLIAII4S, The extreme South- west is what I meant. The farmers of that area will npt be up against any prob- tary of Agriculture lem at all, if the Secre will carry out the`fnstructions of the him this $2,000,000,000 increased ENLISTMENT OF ALIENS IN REGULAR ARMY The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Srmi- NIs in the chair) laid before the Senate the amendments of the House of Repre- sentatives to the bill (S. 2269) to provide for the enlistment of aliens in the Regu- lar Army, which were, on page 1, line 5, strike out "1951" and insert "1953"; on Approved For.Release 2000/08/25 CIA- RDP57-00384RO01000010006-6 9260 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE to believe that any article or articles are being or are practically certain to be imported into the United States under such conditions and such quan- tities as to render or tend to render ineffective, or materially interfere with, any farm program, he. may require the Tariff Commission to investigate the matter and, upon the finding of that Commission, he may decide under that section whether to increase the tariff, or impose a quota on goods being im- ported into this country. The Magnuson amendment, in the first instance, changes that portion of section 22 and places the responsibility on the Secretary of Agriculture to ini- tiate these proceedings. Second, in- stead of having the Tariff Commission make the final investigation, as is now provided by the law, the Magnuson amendment would make it read so that the Department of Agriculture would in- vetigate the matter and make all find- ings and reports to the President. The third and most important change Is with respect to subsection (f) of sec- tion 22 of the present law. Subsection (f) provides specifically that no proclamation under section 22 shall be enforced in contravention of any treaty or other international agree- ments to which the United States is or hereafter becomes a party. The signifi- cant change made by the so-called Mag- nuson amendment to that particular subsection (f) is that it reverses the order, in that it provides that no inter- national agreement may hereafter be entered into or present agreements ex- tended beyond their termination . dates which do not reserve the right of this country to invoke section 22 whenever the President decides to do so. That is the distinction between the present law and the provisions of the Magnuson amendment. The House did not pass upon that issue. We went into conference, and of course met with strenuous opposition to the Magnuson amendment on the part of the House conferees. We met on two occasions, and finally came to an agree- ment. It is true that the Senate con- ferees did'not get all they sought, but I believe that some progress has been made toward carrying out the policies and protective provisions of section 22 of the present law, The conferees agreed to reenactment of the present law, with two changes. Instead of the President's initiating the investigation as to whether goods should be prevented, under the provisions of section 22, from coming Into the United States, the Secretary of Agriculture is to initiate the inquiry, the same as is provided in the Magnuson amendment, with the addition that after the Secretary of Agriculture makes his finding he shall so advise the President, and if the President shall agree that there is reason for such relief, the Presi- dent is required to cause an immediate 4nvestigation to be made by the United States Tariff Commission to determine the facts. Mr. THYE. Mr. President, will the Senator yield? Mr. ELLENDER. I yield. Mr. THYE. Has the Senator seen the letter sent out by the American Farm Bureau Federation relative to section 22? Mr. ELLENDER. I may state to the distinguished Senator that I have re- ceived many letters, but I do not recall that particular letter. Mr. THYE. If the Senator will yield, I should like to read one paragraph of the letter, because it is relevant to the remarks which the Senator has made with reference to the entire question. Mr. President, I ask unanimous con- sent that the entire letter be printed in the REcoan at this point. It is a letter addressed to me by Mr. J. Don Parel, associate director of the Washington office of the American Farm Bureau Federation. The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. HILL in the chair). Without objection, it is so ordered. The letter is as follows: AMERICAN FARM BUREAU FEDERATION, Washington, D. C., June 15, 1950. Hon. EDWARD J. THYE, United States Senate, Washington, D. C. DEAR SENATOR THYE: in compliance with your request concerning the views of the American Farm Bureau Federation rela- tive to the conferees' action on section 22 of H. R.' 6567, they are as follows: Section 22 was designed to protect United States agriculture from imports when such Imports would cause undue hardships to domestic producers of like commodities. The proposed conference amendment to section 22 does not accomplish the original objective of section 22 to which we are com- mitted by American Farm Bureau Federa- tion resolution. If the Congress accepts the conference re- port, the situation will be improved if the legislative history includes an interpreta- tion of the conference amendment showing it was the intention of the Congress that under the conference amendment section 22 could be invoked when acreage allotments, marketing quotas, or marketing agreements are in force with regard to any agricultural commodity or when surpluses of agricul- tural commodities are being used for school- lunch and other domestic-consumer pro- grams. Sincerely, DON PAREL, Associate Director, Washington Office. Mr. THYE. Mr. President, the last paragraph of the letter covers the main question. It reads as follows: If the Congress accepts the conference re-., port, the situation will be improved if the legislative history includes an interpreta- tion of the conference amendment showing it was the intention of the Congress that under the conference amendment section 22 could be invoked when acreage allotments, marketing quotas, or marketing agreements are in force with regard to any agricultural commodity, or when surpluses of agricul- tural commodities are being used for school- lunch and other domestic-consumer pro- grams. Mr. ELLENDER. Mr. President, in the course of my .remarks I shall bring out that point, I believe, as the letter states, that the language contained in the con- ference report is an improvement on the present law. Under the present law it is optional that the President continue the safeguards that are contained in article XI of the general agreement on tariffs JUNE 23 and trade, but this new language makes it obligatory on him to incorporate these safeguards in any future agreements or amendments to existing agreements. Mr. THYE. If I may ask a further question of the Senator, if that becomes mandatory on the President, then why was the Magnuson amendment emascu- lated in the manner in which it was? Mr. ELLENDER. I may state to my distinguished friend that we were deal- ing in conference; we dealt with House Members who had not considered this proposal, and they made. us a proposition which we accepted. I think it ys a de- cided Improvement on the present law. Mr. THYE. As the Senator so well knows, I was a member of the confer- ence committee, and the Senator knows as well as I do that we did not yield un- til we felt that every effort on the part of the Senate conferees had been ex- hausted. Some of us felt it was useless to debate it any longer, and we either had to report that we were in disagree- ment or we had to sign what we had be- fore us and report it to the Senate. I was most unhappy when I signed it, because I felt we were suggesting to the Presi- dent what we hoped he would do, but I did not feel that we wrote anything into the law which made it mandatory on the part of the President to do something. That is why I read the paragraph from this letter, so as to make certain that the very able Senator from Louisiana would agree specifically that what we, as mem- bers of the conference committee and Members of the Congress, want, so far as the Senate is concerned, is the ap- plication of the very position stated in the letter from the American Farm Bu- reau Federation. That is what we ex- pect of the President and what we ex- pect of the officials of the Commodity Credit Corporation, including the Secre- tary of- Agriculture. What we hoped for and wlfat the Magnuson amendment in- tended, was to do that which is stated in the paragraph of the letter which I read. Mr. ELLENDER. I propose to dis- cuss with the Senate a little later the provisions of the general agreement dealing with the very subjects to which the Senator has referred. It makes it obligatory on the President when nego- tiating new agreements or changes in existing agreements to include the per- tinent provisions now contained in GATT. Mr. President, just before I was inter- rupted--- Mr. THYE. Mr. President, will the Senator yield? Mr. ELLENDER. 'Y yield. Mr. THYE. I thank the Senator for yielding to me. I realize that he yielded for more than a question. He permit- ted me to speak my real thoughts. and convictions on the question. Mr. ELLENDER. I was very glad to yield to my distinguished friend from Minnesota. Mr. MAGNUSON, Mr. President, will the Senator yield for a question? Mr. ELLENDER. I yield. Mr. MAGNUSON. 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