VIETNAM--A MIDDLE WAY

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Approved For Release 2005/06/29 CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 September 19, 1966 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE fact that the news media obtained informa- tion (which could just as probably come from recipients of the subpoenas), no conclusion can be drawn that the Committee released the information. The complaint alleged no specific fact showing that the release was by a named Committee member or by an au- thorized employee at a stated time and place or by some stated means. Unsupported con- clusory allegations are insufficient to estab- lish something as a fact. Riley v. Titus, 89 U.S. App. D.C. 79, 190 P. 2d 653 (1951). V. Plaintiffs' Conclusory Allegations Set Forth In the Complaint and in Their Affidavits Should Be Stricken as a Matter of Law From what we have shown supra, it is clear that the House Un-American Activities Committee hearings scheduled for August 16, 1966, which are challenged in this pro- ceeding, serve a legitimate legislative pur- pose. The conclusory allegations set forth in plaintiffs' affidavits and in paragraphs 10, 12 and 13 of their complaint purport to contravene the fact that the hearings serve a valid purpose. However, even the most cursory examination of the enumerated paragraphs of the complaint and the affi- davits will reflect the broad and all-encom- passing sweep of plaintiffs contentions and logically, will demonstrate, as well, that their assertions can be predicated only upon con- jecture and emotion and not upon personal knowledge as they represent in their veri- fication to the complaint and in their affidavits. Absent basic, factual allegations which would of necessity be exposed to the fresh air of examination by this Court, plaintiffs' conclusory assertions are insufficient as a matter of law to sustain their contentions that purposes, other than legitimate legis- lative inquiry, exist for the hearings now being conducted. The rule controlling here arose out of Riley v. Titus, supra, where our` Court of Appeals stated at pp. 654-55: "The appellant plaint of allegations of "malice", "con- spiracy", "unlawfulness" and the like. See e.g., Barr v. Matteo, 360 U.S. 565, 569 (mal- ice); Norton v. McShane, supra, 332 F. 2d at 357 (malicious arrest, abuse and mis- treatment, and conspiracy);. Gager v. "Bob Seidel", 112 U.S. App. D.C. 135, 140, 300 F. 2d 727, 732, cert. denied 370 U.S. 959 (1962) (conspiracy) ; Ove Gustavsson Contracting Co. v. Floete, 299 F. 2d 655, 657-859 (2d Cir. 1962), cert. denied, 374 U.S. 827 (1963) (wil- fully, maliciously, with intent to harm and injure); Bershad v. Wood, supra, 290 F. 2d at 715-719 (malice); DeBusk v. Harvin, 212 F. 2d 143, 147 (5th Cir. 1954) (malicious acts and conspiracy) ; Gregoire v. Biddle, 177 F. 2d 579, 581 (1949), cert. denied 339 U.S. 949 (1950) (conspired and maliciously and wil- fully entered into a scheme); Laughlin v. Rosenman, 82 U.S. App. D.C. 164, 168, 163 F. 2d 838, 840 (1947) (knowingly, wilfully and maliciously participated in an unlawful conspiracy) ; Cooper v. O'Connor, 69 U.S. App. D.C. 100, 102, 99 F. 2d 135, 137, cert. denied 305 U.S. 643 (1938) (wanton, mali- cious and unlawful acts). For this reason plaintiff's unsupported conclusory allegations both in the complaint and In their affidavits should be stricken. Wherefore, for the reasons stated herein the Court is respectfully urged to strike paragraphs 10, 12 and 13 of the complaint and paragraphs 4 and 5 of each of the plain- tiffs' affidavits and to dismiss the complaint. HARRY T. ALEXANDER, Acting U.S. Attorney. JOSEPH M. HANNON, Assistant U.S. Attorney. FRANK Q. NEBEKER, Assistant U.S. Attorney. OIL ZIMMERMAN, Assistant U.S. Attorney. Of Counsel: Kevin T. Maroney, Lee, B. Anderson, Attorneys, Department of Justice. bases her suit for recovery under the Fed- i; (Mr. RYAN asked and was given per- eral Tort Claims Act upon alleged miscon- mission to extend his remarks at this duct 'of her superior officers prior to her paint in the RECORD, and to include eX- discharge. For the most part, however, her complaint describes their action in only such general and conclusionary terms as 'arbi- trary' and 'unlawful.' No factual allegations emerge from her voluminous pleadings and affidavits with sufficient clarity to show a basis for recovery on a theory of tort lia- bility. At the most there are only remote references to a 'conspiracy' and 'threats' b traneous matter.) Mr. RYAN. Mr. Speaker, like the fluctuations of war itself, there is an ebb and a flow to the words and terms of the debates which accompany the decisions surrounding a war. The mili- tary, political, and rhetorical Involve- two persons who were her superiors at dif- ment of the United States in the war in Vietnam is less like an escalator ferent times in different states. In a parallel situation, this court has stated, 'Though it smoothly carrying us from one level to [the complaint] characterizes appellees' al- another, than it is like a car caught in leged conduct as wrongful, unlawful, and a traffic jam, sometimes at rest, some- malicious, it does not sufficiently disclose times creeping along slowly, but always the conduct to enable a court to judge trying to go as fast as it can without whether or not it" was tortious' Burns v. crashing into the cars in front of it. Spiller, 1947, 82 U.S. App. D.C. 91, 181 F. During the past weekend the debate 61 denied, 3e 8(a) (a), , suddenly put on a spurt of energy. There 68 8 S. . Ct. 10 101, , 92 92 L. Ed. 373. . See e Rule Fed. It. CivP. In that case the complaint was fresh evidence that the United States was dismissed for failure to state a claim is prepared to get far more involved in upon which relief could be granted there the war than most Americans had appearing no issue as to any material fact, dreamed possible. Former President Ei- the granting of summary judgment was senhower announced to the 19() million proper in regard to this aspect of appellant's Americans who have not read his mem- Similarlycase for , the in same reason'' oires that the country was perfectly pre- Chung Wing Ping v. Ken- nedy, 111 U.S. App. D.C. 106, 294 F. 2d 735 pared to use nuclear weapons in Korea (1961) the Court concluded that an unsup- when our adversaries decided to call it ported and nebulous allegation of criminal quits. And the ranking Thai military conspiracy was not a sufficient basis for officer announced that the United States allowing discovery to contest a motion for is already at war in northeastern Thai- summary judgment. Because of superven- land. ing public policy need to free federal of- But those who urged restraint were no hies facers from acting vexations accord suits with the their r courts s have ive e less vocal. Former White House Aid u made a like application of the rule to them Richard Goodwin suggested the forma- and held that the "official immunity" doc- tion of a committee to oppose the escala- trine is not affected by inclusion in the com- tion of the war in Vietnam. In addition, the Sunday edition of the New York Times magazine section car- ried a devastating analysis of the war by Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., former assistant to Presidents Kennedy and Johnson, who concludes that- Deescalation could work, if there were the will to pursue it. Perhaps Goodwin and Schlesinger will only convert those of us who are already convinced that the United States should follow this course. But I cannot believe that their comments would not influence the thinking of the "hawks" as well, if only they were willing to listen. In the firm hope that Professor Schles- inger's comments will not fall on deaf ears, I am inserting his article, "A Middle Way Out of Vietnam," in the RECORD at this point. I hope that it will be widely read. The article follows: SCHLESINGER SUGGESTS THAT WE RECOVER OUR COOL AND FOLLOW A MIDDLE WAY OUT OF VIETNAM (By Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.) (NoTE.-Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., is a for- mer special assistant to Presidents Kennedy and Johnson, author of "A Thousand Days," and Albert Schweitzer professor of the hu- manities, City University of New York.) Why we are in Vietnam is today a question of only historical interest. We are there, for better or for worse, and we must deal with the situation that exists. Our national se- curity may not have compelled us to draw a line across Southeast Asia where we did, but, having drawn it, we cannot lightly abandon it. Our stake in South Vietnam may have been self-created, but it has nonetheless be- come real. Our precipitate withdrawal now would have ominous reverberations through- out Asia. Our commitment of over 300,000 American troops, young men of exceptional skill and gallantry engaged in cruel and diffi- cult warfare, measures the magnitude of our national concern. We have achieved this entanglement, not after due and deliberate consideration, but through a series of small decisions. It is not only idle but unfair to seek out guilty men. President Eisenhower, after rejecting Amer- ican military intervention in 1954, set In motion the policy of support for Saigon which resulted, two Presidents later, in American military intervention in 1965. Each step in the deepening of the Amer- ican commitment was reasonably regarded at the time as the last that would be neces- sary; yet, in retrospect, each step led only to the next, until we find ourselves entrapped today in that nightmare of American strate- gists, a land war in Asia-a war which no President, including President Johnson, de- sired or intended. The Vietnam story is a tragedy without villains. No thoughtful American can withhold sympathy as Presi- dent Johnson ponders the gloomy choices which lie ahead. Yet each President, as he makes his choices, must expect to be accountable for them. Everything in recent weeks-the ac- tions of the Administration, the intima- tions of actions to come, even a certain harshness in the Presidential rhetoric-sug- gests that President Johnson has made his choice, and that his choice is the careful enlargement of the war. New experiments in escalation are first denied, then dis- owned, then discounted and finally under- taken. As past medicine fails, all we can apparently think to do is to increase the dose. In May the Secretary of the Air Force explained why we were not going to bomb Hanoi and Haiphong; at the end of June we began the strikes against the oil depots. Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 22054 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD --HOUSE September 19, 1966 The demilitarized zone between North and 38th Parallel despite warnings from Peking precisely the effect that the analyses of the South Vietnam has been used by North that this would provoke a Chinese response. United States Strategic Bombing Survey Vietnam units for years, but suddenly we In a few weeks, China was actively in the after the Second World War would have fore- have begun to bomb it. war, and, while there was the greatest oast. Under Secretary of State George :Bali When such steps work no miracles-and slaughter, it was not notably of the Chinese. was a director of that survey; this may well it is safe to predict that escalation will be There seems little question that the Chi- be why he has been reported so unenthusias- no more decisive in the future than it has nese have no great passion to enter the war tic about the air assault on the North. been In the past-the demand will arise for in Vietnam. They do not want to put their And, far from stopping infiltration across "just one more step." Plenty of room re- nuclear plants in hazard; and, in any case, the 17th Parallel, bombing, if ur own statis- mains for widening the war: the harbors their foreign policy has typically been. a com- tics are to be believed, has stimulated it. of North Vietnam, the irrigation dikes, the pound of polemical ferocity and practical "It is perfectly clear," Secretary McNamara steel plants, the factories, the power grid, prudence. But the leaders in Peking are no has said, "that the North Vietnamese have the crops, the civilian population, the Chi- doubt just as devoted students of Munich continued to increase their support of the nese border. The fact that we excluded such as the American Secretary of State. They Vietcong despite the increase in our ef- steps yesterday is, alas, no guarantee that are sure that we are out to bury them; they fort. . . . What has happened is that the we will not pursue them tomorrow. And believe that appeasement invites further ag- North Vietnamese have continually increased if bombing will not bring Ho Chi Minh to gression; and, however deep their reluctance, the amount of resources, men and material his knees or stop his support of the Viet- at some point concern for national survival that they have been willing to devote to cong in South Vietnam, there is always the will make them fight. their objective." last resort of invasion. General Ky has When will-that point be reached? Probably Nor can we easily match this infiltration already told us that we must invade North when they are confronted by a direct threat by enlarging our own forces-from 300,000, Vietnam to win the war. In his recent press to their frontier, either through bombing or for example, to 500,000 or 750,000. The ratio conference, the Secretary of State twice de- through an American decision to cross the of superiority preferred by the Pentagon in clined to rule out this possibility. 17th Parallel and invade North Vietnam. If a guerrilla war is 10 to 1, which means that The theory, of course, is that widening Communist regime barely established in Pe- every time we send in 100,000 more men. the the war will shorten it. This theory ap- king could take a decision to intervene enemy has only to send in 10,000 or so, and pears to be based on three convictions: first, against the only atomic power in the world we are all even again. Reinforcement has that the war will be decided in North Viet- in 1950, why does anyone supopse that a not created a margin of American superior- nam; second, that the risk of Chinese or that decision in 1966? Indeed, given the ity; all it has done is to lift the stalemate to Soviet entry is negligible, and third, that much stronger regime should flinch from a higher and more explosive level. Indeed, military "victory" in some sense is possible. present discord In Peking, war may seem the there is reason to suppose that, in its own Perhaps these premises are correct, and in best way to renew revolutionary discipline, manner, the enemy can match our every step another year or two we may all be saluting stop the brawling and unite the nation, of escalation up to the point of nuclear war. the wisdom and statesmanship of the It is true that the Chinese entry into the U.S. News & World Report says in its Issue American Government. In so inscrutable Korean War had at least the passise support of Aug. 22: "It's clear now to military men: a situation, no one can be confident about of the Soviet Union; but it would be risky bombing will not win in Vietnam." This is a his doubt and disagreement. Nonetheless, today to rely on the Sino-Soviet split to dispiriting item. Why had our military to many Americans these propositions con- save us from everything, including Soviet leaders not long ago freed themselves from stitute a terribly shaky basis for action which aid to China incase of war with the United the illusion of the omnipotence of air power, has already carried the United States Into a States or even direct Soviet entry into the so cherished by civilians who think wars can ground war in Asia and which may well war in Vietnam. For the Soviet Union is be won. on the cheap? The Korean war, as carry the world to the brink of the third already extensively involved in Vietnam- Gen. Matthew B. Ridgway has said, "taught world war, more so in a sense than the Chinese-and it that it is impossible to interdict the supply The illusion that the war in South Viet- would be foolish to suppose that, given Moo- route of an Asian army by airpower alone. nam can be decided in North Vietnam is evi- cow's competition with Peking for the lead- We had complete air mastery over North dently a result of listening too long to our ershlp of the Communist world, Russia could Korea, and we clobbered Chinese supply own propaganda. Our Government has in- afford to stand by and allow Communist columns unmercifully. . . .But we did not sisted so often that the war in Vietnam Is North Vietnam or Communist China to be halt their offensive nor materially diminish a clear-cut case of aggression across frontiers destroyed by the American imperialists. its strength." If air power was not decisive that it has come to believe itself that the As for the third premise (that military in Korea, where the warfare was conven- war was started in Hanoi and can be stopped "victory" is in some sense possible) : The tional and the terrain relatively open and there. "The war," the Secretary of State has Joint Chiefs of Staff of course, by definition compact, how could anyone suppose that it solemnly assurbd us, "is clearly an 'arnied argue for military solutions. They are the would be decisive against guerrillas thread- attack,' cynically and systematically mount- most fervent apostles of "one moire step." Ing their way through the hills and jungles ed by the Hanoi regime against the people of That is their business, and no one should be of Vietnam? South Vietnam." surprised that generals behave like generals. The bombing illusion applies, of course, to Tat the: best evidence is that the war be- The fault lies not with those who give this South as well as to North Vietnam. Tactical gan as an insurrection within South Viet- advice but those who take it. Once, early bombing-bombing in direct support of nam which, as it has gathered momentum, in the Kennedy Administration, the then ground operations-has its place; but the has attracted increasing support and diree- Chairman of the Joint Chiefs outlined the notion that strategic bombing can stop guer- tion from the north. Even today the North processes of escalation in Southeast Asia rillas runs contrary to experience. And we Vietnamese regulars in South Vietnam before the National Security Council, con- had it last winter, on the authority of the amount to only a fraction of the total enemy eluding, "If we are given the right to use Secretary of State, that despite the entry of force (and to an even smaller fraction of the nuclear weapons, we can guarantee victory." North Vietnamese regulars the war in South American army in South Vietnam). We President Kennedy sat glumly rubbing an Vietnam "continues to be basically a guer- could follow the genial prescription of Gen- upper molar. After a moment someone said, rilla operation." eral LeMay and bomb North Vietnam back' "Mr. President, perhaps you would have the Sir Robert Thompson, who planned the to the Stone Age-and the war would still general explain to us what he means by vic- successful British effort against the Malayan go on in South Vietnam. To reduce this war tory." Kennedy grunted and dismissed the guerrillas and later served as head of the to the simplification of a wicked regime mo- meeting. Later he said, "Since he couldn't British advisory mission in Saigon, has em- lesting its neighbors, and to suppose that it think of any further escalation, he would phasized that the defending force must oper- can be ended by punishing the wicked re- have to promise us victory." ate "In the same element" as their adver- glme, is purely to misconceive not only the What is the purpose of bombing the north? saries. Counterinsurgency, he writes, "is like political but even the military character of It is hard to find out. According to Gen. trying to deal with a tomcat in an alley. It the problem. Maxwell Taylor, "The objective of our air is no good inserting a large, fierce dog. The As for the assurances that China will not campaign is to change the will of the enemy dog may not find the tomcat; if he does, the enter, these will be less than totally satisfy- leadership." Secretary McNamara, on the tomcat will escape up a tree; and the dog will ing to those whose memory stretches back other hand, has said, "We never believed that then chase the female cats. The answer is to the Korean War. General MacArthur, an- bombing would destroy North Vietnam's to put in a fiercer tomcat. other one of those military experts on on., will." Whatever the theory, the results Alas, we have no fiercer tomcat. The ental psychology, when asked by President would appear to support Secretary Mc- counterinsurgency effort in Vietnam has Truman on Wake Island in October, 1950, Namara. The northern strategy, instead of languished, while our bombers roam over what the chances were of Chinese interven- driving Hanoi to the conference table, seems that hapless country, dumping more tonnage tion, replied, "Very little.... Now that we to have hardened the will of the regime, con- of explosives each month than we were drop- have our bases for our Air Force in Korea, if vinced it that its life is at stake, brought it ping per month on all Europe and Africa the Chinese tried to get down to Pyongang, closer to China and solidified the people of during the Second World War. Just the there would be the greatest slaughter." North Vietnam in its support. other day our bombs killed or injured more Such reasoning lay behind the decision (the 'There is no indioation," General West- than 100 civilians in a hamlet in the Mekong Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern moreland said the other day, "that the re- Delta-all on the suspicion that two Vietcong Affairs at that time is Secretary of State to- solve of the leadership in Hanoi has been re- platoons numbering perhaps 60 men, were day) to send American troops across the duced." In other words, bombing; has had there. Even if the Vietcong had still been Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 September 19, 1966 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE around, which they weren't would the mili- tary gain have outweighed the human and political loss? Charles Mohr writes in The Times: "Almost every provincial hospital in Vietnam is crowded with civilian victims of the war. Some American doctors and other officials in the field say the majority are the victims of American air power and South Vietnamese artillery." The trouble is that we are fighting one war, with our B-52's and our naval guns and our napalm, and the Vietcong are fighting another, with their machine guns and am- bushes and forays in the dark. "If we can get the Vietcong to stand up and fight, we will blast him," General Westmoreland has plaintively said; and when they occasionally rise to the surface and try to fight our kind of war, we do blast them. But the fact that they then slide back into the shadows does not mean that we are on the verge of some final military triumph. It means simply that we are driving them underground- where they renew themselves and where our large, fierce dog cannot follow. Saigon officials have been reporting that Vietcong morale is declining as long as I can remember; these reports need not be taken seriously now. I know of no convincing evi- dence that the Vietcong lack the political and emotional commitment to keep fighting underground for another 20 years. Our strategy in Vietnam Is rather like try- ing to weed a garden with a bulldozer. We occasionally dig up some weeds, but we dig up most of the turf, too. The effect of our policy is to pulverize the political and insti- tutional fabric which alone can give a South Vietnamese state that hope of independent survival which is our presumed war aim. Our method, in other words, defeats our goal. Indeed, the most likely beneficiary of the smashed social structure of South Viet- nam will be Communism. "My feeling," Gen. Wallace Greene, commandant of the Marine Corps, has wisely said, "is that you could kill every Vietcong and North Viet- namese in South Vietnam and still lose the war. Unless we can make a success of the civic-action program, we are not going to obtain the objectives we have set." Much devotion and intelligence are at present going into the programs of recon- struction, but prospects are precarious so long as the enemy can slice through so much of South Vietnam with such apparent im- munity; and so long as genuine programs of social reform threaten the vested interests of the Saigon Government and of large land- holders. In any case, as claimants on our resources, these programs of pacification are hopelessly outclassed by the programs of de- struction. Surely, the United States, with all its ingenuity, could have figured out a better way to combat guerrilla warfare than the physical obliteration of the nation in which it is taking place. If this Is our best idea of "protecting" a country against "wars of national liberation," what other country, seeing the devastation we have wrought in Vietnam, will wish American protection? At the same time, our concentration on Vietnam is exacting a frightful cost in other areas of national concern. In domestic pot- icy, with Vietnam gulping down a billion and a half dollars a month, everything is grinding to a stop. Lyndon Johnson was on his way to a place in history as a great President for his vision of a Great Society; but the Great Society is now, except for token gestures, dead. The fight for equal op- portunity for the Negro, the war against poverty, the struggle to save the cities, the improvement of our schools-all must be starved for the sake of Vietnam. And war brings ugly side-effects: inflation; frustra- tion; angry protest; attack on dissenters on the ground that they cheer the enemy (an attack often mounted by men who led the dissent during the Korean war) ; premoni- tions of McCarthyism. We also pay a cost abroad. Our allies nat- urally draw away as they see us heading down the road toward war with China. When we began to bomb the oil depots, James Reston wrote: "There is now not a single major nation in the world that supports Mr. Johnson's latest adventure in Hanoi and Haiphong." As nations seek to disengage themselves from the impending conflict, the quasi-neutralism of leaders like de Gaulle gains new plausibility. On any realistic assessment, Western Europe and Latin America are far more significant to American security than South Asia; yet the Vietnam obsession has stultified our policy and weakened our position in both these vital areas. The war has clouded the hope, once mildly promising, of progress toward a detente with the Soviet Union. It has helped block agreements to end under- ground nuclear testing and to stop the spread of nuclear weapons. It has precipitated the decision of U Thant to resign as Secretary General of the United Nations and condemns the U.N. itself to a time of declining influence. Our rejection of the views of our friends and allies-our conviction, as Paul H. Smith has put it, "that we alone are qualified to be judge, jury and executioner"-ignores Madison's solemn warning in the 63rd Fed- eralist: "An attention to the judgment of other nations is important to every govern- ment for two reasons: the one is that in- dependently of the merits of any particular plan or measure, it is desirable, on various accounts, that it should appear to other nations as the offspring of a wise and hon- orable policy; the second is that in doubt- ful cases, particularly where the national councils may be warped by some strong pas- sion or momentary interest, the presumed or known opinion of the impartial world may be the best guide that can be followed. What has not America lost by her want of character with foreign nations; and how many errors and follies would she not have avoided, if the justice and propriety of her measures had, in every instance, been previ- ously tried by the light in which they would probably appear to the unbiased part of mankind." The Administration has called the critics of its Vietnam policy "neoisolationists: " But surely the real neoisolationists are those who have isolated the United States from its allies and raised the tattered standard, last flourished 15 years ago by Douglas Mac- Arthur, of "going it alone." . How have we managed to imprison our- selves in this series of dilemmas? One rea- son surely is that we have somehow lost our understanding of the uses of power. Under- standing of power implies above all precision in its application. We have moved away from the subtle strategy of "flexible response" under which the level of American force was graduated to meet the level of enemy threat. The triumph of this discriminate employ- ment of power was, of course, the Cuban missile crisis (where the Joint Chiefs, as usual, urged an air assault on the missile bases). But President Johnson, for all his formidable abilities, has shown no knack for discrimination in his use of power. His technique is to try and overwhelm his ad- versary-as in the Dominican Republic and Vietnam-by piling on all forms of power without regard to the nature of the threat. Given this weakness for the indiscriminate use of power, it is easy to see why the appli- cation of force in Vietnam has been sur- rendered to the workings of what an acute observer of the Johnson foreign policy, Philip Geyelin, calls "the escalation machine." This machine is, in effect, the momentum in the decision-making system which keeps en- larging the war "for reasons only marginally related to military need." 22055 The very size and weight of the American military presence generate unceasing pres- sures to satisfy military demands. These may be demands to try out new weapons; the London Sunday Telegraph recently ran an informative article comparing the Vietnam war to the Spanish Civil War as a military testing ground and laboratory. Or they may be cries for "one more step," springing in part from suppressed rage over the fact that, with military power sufficient to blow up the world, we still cannot compel guerrilla bands in black pajamas to submit to our will. What- ever the reason, Sir Robert Thompson has noted of the American theory of the war: "There was a constant tendency in Vietnam to mount large-scale operations, which had little purpose or prospect of success, merely to indicate that something aggressive was being done." The Administration has freely admitted that such operations, like the bombing of the North, are designed in part to prop up the morale of the Saigon Government; And the impression is growing now that they are also in part undertaken in order to smother doubts about the war in the United States and to reverse anti-Administration ten- dencies in the polls. Americans have become curiously insensitive to the use of military operations for domestic political purposes. A quarter-century ago President Roosevelt postponed the North African invasion so that it would not take place before the midterm elections of 1942; but today observers in Washington, without evidence of shock, pre- dict a new venture in escalation before the midterm elections of 1966. The triumph of the escalation machine has been assisted by the faultiness of the infor- mation on which our decisions are based. Nothing is phonier than the spurious exacti- tude of our statistics about the Vietnam war. No doubt a computerized military establish- ment demands numbers; but the "body count" of dead Vietcong, for example, in- cludes heaven knows how many innocent bystanders and could hardly be more un- reliable. The figures on enemy strength are totally baffling, at least to the ordinary citi- zen relying on the daily newspaper. The Times on Aug. 10 described "the latest in- telligence reports" in Saigon as saying that the number of enemy troops in South Viet- nam had increased 52,000 since Jan. 1 to a total of 282,000. Yet, "according to official figures," the enemy had suffered 31,571 killed in action in this period, and the infiltration estimate ranged from 35,000 as "definite" to 54,000 as "possible." The only way to reconcile these figures is to conclude that the Vietcong have picked up from 30,000 to 50,000 local recruits in this period. Since tpis seems unlikely-especially in view of our confidence in the decline of Vietcong morale-a safer guess is to question the wonderful precision of the statistics. Even the rather vital problem of how many North Vietnamese troops are in South Viet- nam is swathed in mystery. The Times re- ported on Aug. 7: "About 40,000 North Viet- namese troops are believed by allied intelli- gence to be in the South." According to an Associated Press dispatch from Saigon printed in The Christian Science Monitor of Aug. 15: "The South Vietnamese Govern- ment says 102,500 North Vietnamese combat troops and support battalions have infil- trated into South Vietnam. "These figures are far in excess of United States intelligence estimates, which put the maximum number of North Vietnamese in the South at about 54,000." But General Westmoreland told his Texas press conference on Aug. 14 that the enemy force included "about 110,000 main-force North Vietnamese regular army troops." Perhaps these statements are all reconcil- able, but an apparent discrepancy of this Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 22056 w fir. Approved For.Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE September 19, 1966 Magnitude on a question of such importance raises a twinge of doubt. . Nor is our ignorance confined to battle- order statistics. We have always lacked gen- uine knowledge of and insight into the po- litical and cultural problems of Vietnam, and the more we press all problems into a mili- tary framework the worse off we are. The Administration in Washington was syste- matically misinformed by senior American officials in Saigon in 1962--63 regarding the progress of the war, the popularity of Diem, the effectiveness of the "strategic hamlet" program and other vital matters. It was not that these plHCials were deliberately deceiving their President; it was that they had deceived themselves first. Ordinary citizens restricted to reading the American press were better in- formed in 1963 than officials who took top- secret cables seriously. The fact is that our Government just doesn't know a lot of things it pretends to know. It is not discreditable that it should not know them, for the facts are elusive and the judgments incredibly difficult. But it is surely inexcusable that It should pretend to know things it does not-and that it should pass its own ignorance on to the American people as certitude. And it is even less ex- cusable that it should commit the nation to a policy involving the greatest dangers on a foundation so vague and precarious. So now we are set on the course of widen- ing the war-even at the cost of multiply- ing American casualties in Vietnam and. deepening American troubles at home and abroad; even at the risk of miring our nation in a hopeless and endless conflict on the mainland of Asia beyond the effective em- ployment of our national power and beyond the rapge of our primary interests; even at the risk of nuclear war. Why does the Administration feel that these costs must be paid and these risks run? Hovering behind our policy is a larger idea- the idea that the war in Vietnam is not just a local conflict between Vietnamese but a fateful test of wills between China and the United States. Our political and rhetorical escalation of the war has been almost as perilous as our military escalation. President Kennedy's effort was to pull Laos out of the context of great-power conflict and reduce the Laotian civil war to rational proportions. As he told Khrushchev at Vienna in 1961, Laos was just not important enough to entangle two great nations. President Johnson, on the other hand, has systematically inflated the signifi- cance of the war in Vietnam. "We have tried to make it clear over and over again." as the Secretary of State has put it, "that al- though Hanoi is the prime actor in this situation, that it is the policy of Peking that has greatly stimulated Hanoi.... It is Ho Chi Minh's war, Maybe it is Mao Tse-tung's war." "In the forties and fifties," President Johnson has said, "we took our stand in Europe to protect the freedom of those threatened by aggression. Now the center of attention has shifted to another part of the world where aggression is on the march. Our stand must be as firm as ever" Given this view, it is presumably necessary to pay the greatest costs and run the greatest risks- or else invite the greatest defeat. Given this view, too, there is no reason not to Americanize the war. President Ken- nedy did not believe that the war in Vietnam, could succeed as a war of white men against Asians. It could not be won, he said a few weeks before his death, "unless the people [of South Vienami support the effort . We can help them, we can give them equip- ment, we can send our men out there as ad- visers, but they have to win it, the people of Vietnam." We have now junked this doc- trine. Instead,, we have enlarged our mili- tarypresence ntil it is the only thing that Matters in South Vietnam, and we plan now to make it still larger; We have summoned the Saigon leaders, like tribal chieftains on a retainer, to a conference in an American state; we crowd the streets of Saigon with American generals (58 at last count) and visiting stateside dignitaries. In short, we have seized every opportunity to make clear to the world that this is an American war- and, in doing this, we have surely gone far to make the war unwinnable. The proposition that our real enemy in Vietnam is China is basic to the policy of widening the war. It is the vital element in the Administration case. Yet the proof our leaders have adduced for this proposition has been exceedingly sketchy and almost per- functory. It has been proof by ideology and proof by analogy. It has not been proof by reasoned argument or by concrete illustra- tion. The proof by ideology has relied on the syllogism that the Vietcong, North Vietnam and China are all Communist states and therefore must be part of the same con- spiracy, and that, since the Vietcong are the weakest of the three, they must therefore be the spearhead of a coordinated Chinese plan of expansion. The Department of State, in spite of what has struck most peo- ple as a rather evident fragmentation of the Communist world, has hated to abandon the cozy old cliches about a centralized Com- munist conspiracy aimed at monolithic world revolution. As late as May 9, 1965, after half a dozen years of public Russo-Chinese. quarreling, Thomas C. Mann, then No. 3 man in the de- partment, could talk about "instruments of Sino-Soviet power" and "orders from the Sino-Soviet military bloc." As late as Jan. 28, 1966, the Secretary of State could still run on about "their world revolution," and again, on Feb. 18, about "the Communists" and their "larger design." While the depart- ment may have accepted the reality of the Russo-Chinese schism by September, 1966, the predominant tone is still to regard Asian Communism as a homogenous system of ag- gression. The premise of our policy has been that the Vietcong equal Hanoi and Hanoi equals Peking. Obviously, the Vietcong, Hanoi and Peking have interests in common and strong ideo- logical affinities. Obviously, Peking would rejoice in a Hanoi-Vietcong victory. But they also have divergent interests and pur- poses-and the divergencies may prove in the end to be stronger than the affinities. Re- cent developments in North Korea are in- structive. If any country was bound to Pe- king by ties of gratitude, it was North Korea, which was preserved as an independent state by Chinese intervention 15 years ago. If any country, today is at the mercy of Peking, it is again North Korea. When North Korea now declares in vigorous language its inde- pendence of China, does anyone suppose that North Vietnam, imbued with historic mis- trust of China and led by that veteran Rus- sian agent Ho Chi Minh, would have been more slavish in its attitude toward Peking? The other part of the Administration case has been proof by analogy, especially the good old Munich analogy. "I'm not the village idiot, the Secretary of State recently confided to Stewart Alsop. "I know Hitler was an Austrian and Mao is a Chinese. . But what is common between the two sit- uations is the phenomenon of aggression" The Vietnam war, President Johnson recent- ly told the American Legion, "is meant to be the opening salvo in a series of bombardments or, as they are called in Peking, "wars of liberation."If this technique works this week in Vietnam the Administration suggests, it will be tried next week in Uganda and Peru. But, if it is defeated in Vietnam, the Chinese will know that we will not let it succeed elsewhere. "What happens in South Vietnam," the President cried at Omaha. "will determine- yes, it will determine-whether ambitious and aggressive nations can use guerrilla war- fare to conquer their weaker neighbors." The Secretary of State even described an ex- hortation made last year by the Chinese De- fense Minister, Marshal Lien Piao, as a blue- print for world conquest comparable to Hit- ler's "Mein Kampf." One thing is sure about the Vietnam rid- dle: it will not be solved by bad historical analogies. It seems a trifle forced, for ex- ample, to equate a civil war in what was for hundreds of years the entity of Vietnam (Marshall Ky, after all, is a North Vietnamese himself) with Hitler's invasion of Austria and Czechoslovakia across old and well-estab- lished lines of national division; even the village idiot might grasp that difference. When President Eisenhower invoked the Munich analogy in 1954 in an effort to in- volve the British in Indochina, Prime Min- ister Churchill, a pretty close student of Munich in his day, was unmoved. The Chinese have neither the overwhelmingly military power nor the timetable of aggres- sion nor, apparently, the pent-up mania for instant expansion which would justify the Hitler parallel. As for the Lin Piao document, the Rand Corporation, which evi- dently read it with more care than the State Department bothered to do, concluded that, far from being Mao's "Mein Kampf," it was a message to the Vietcong that they could win "only if they rely primarily on their own resources and their own revolu- tionary spirit," and that it revealed "the lack, rather than the extent, of Peking's past and present control over Hanoi's actions." In any case, guerrilla warfare is not a tac- tic to be mechanically applied by central headquarters to faraway countries. More than any other form of warfare, it is depend- ent on conditions and opportunities within the countries themselves. Whether there are wars of national liberation in Uganda and Peru will depend, not on what happens in Vietnam, but on what happens in Uganda and Peru. One can agree that the containment of China will be a major problem for the next generation. But this does not mean that we must re-enact in Asia in the sixties the exact drama of Europe in the forties and fifties. The record thus far suggests that the force most likely to contain Chinese expansionism in Asia (and Africa, too) will be not Western intervention but local nationalism. Some- times local nationalism may call on Western support-but not always. Countries like Burma and Cambodia preserve their auton- omy with American assistance. The Africans have dealt with the Chinese on their own. The two heaviest blows recently suffered by Peking-the destruction of the Communist party in Indonesia and the declaration of in- dependence by North Korea--took place without benefit of American patronage or rhetoric. In the unpredictable decades ahead, the most effective bulwark against "interna- tional" Communism in some circumstances may well be national Communism. A ra- tional policy of containing China could have recognized that a Communist Vietnam under Ho might be a better instrument of containment than a shaky Saigon regime led by right-wing mandarins or air force gen- erals. Had Ho taken over all Vietnam in 1954, he might today be enlisting Soviet sup- port to strengthen his resistance to Chinese pressure-and this situation, however ap- palling for the people of South Vietnam, would obviously be better for the United States than the one in which we are floun- dering today. And now, alas, it may be al- most too late: the whole thrust of United States policy since 1954, and more than ever since the bombing of the North began, has been not to pry Peking and Hanoi apart but to drive them together. Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 September 19 1966 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE 22057 Is there no way out? Are the only alter- not likely to deter Hanoi any more in the irrevocably to him-and why should he not natives widening the war or disorderly and future than it has in the past; and, given Its after the laying on of hands at Honolulu?- humiliating withdrawal? Surely, our states- limited military effect, the Administration's and that, whatever he does, we cannot afford manship is not yet this bankrupt. I think desire to gratify the Saigon Government and to abandon him_ a middle course is still possible if there were the American voter is surely not important Robert Shaplen, in the August 20 issue of the will to pursue it. And this course must enough to justify the risks of Indefinite es- The New Yorker, reported from Saigon that begin with a decision to stop widening and calatton. Moreover, so long as the bombing the atmosphere there "is being compared to Americanizing the war-to limit our forces, continues there is no chance of serious nego- the miasma that surrounded Diem and his actions, goals and rhetoric. Instead of tiation. Nor does the failure of the 37-day tyrannical brother Ngo Dinh Nhu" and that bombing more places, sending in more pause of last winter to produce a settlement "many Vietnamese believe that the Amer- troops,. proclaiming ever more ardently that refute this. Thirty-seven days were hardly scans, having embraced Ky so whole- the fate of civilization will be settled in enough to persuade our allies that we hon- heartedly and supported him so long, are Vietnam, let us recover our cool and try to estly wanted negotiation; so brief an inter- just as responsible as his Government for see the situation as it is: a horrid civil war lude left no time for them to move on to the recent repressive acts." in which Communist guerrillas, enthusias- the tricky job of persuading Hanoi. For I am sure that President Johnson did not tically aided and now substantially directed Hanoi has substantial reasons for mistrust- intend to turn over American policy and from Hanoi, are trying to establish a Com- ing negotiation-quite apart from Chinese honor in Vietnam to Marshal Ky's gimcrack. munist despotism in South Vietnam, not pressure or its own hopes of victory. Ho has bullyboy, get-rich-quick regime. The time is for the Chinese but for themselves. Let us entered into negotiation with the West twice bound to come when Ky must learn the facts unnotderstan mild that the ultimate problem here in the past-in 1946-47 and again in 1954- of life, as General Phoumi eventually and y but political. Let us adapt and each time, In his view, he lost at the painfully learned them. the means we employ to the end we seek. conference table things he thought he had But why wait? In our whole time in Viet- Obviously, military action plays an in- won on the battlefield. nam, there has never been a Government in dispensable role in the search for a political For all our official talk about our readiness Saigon which had the active loyalty of the solution. Hanoi and the Vietcong will not to go anywhere, talk to anyone, etc., it can- countryside. It might be an agreeable ex- negotiate so long as they think they can not be said that the Administration has pur- periment to encourage one to come. into ex- win. Since stalemate is a self-evident pre- sued negotiation with a fraction of the zeal, istence. Instead of Identifying American In- condition to negotiation, we must have imagination and perseverance with which it terests with Ky and rebuffing the broader enough American armed force in South Viet- has pursued war. Indeed, some American political impulses in South Vietnam, we nam to leave no doubt in the minds of our scholars who have studied the matter believe should long since have welcomed a movement adversaries that they cannot hope for vic- that on a number of occasions when pressure toward a civilian regime representing the sig- tory. They must also have no illusion about for negotiation was mounting we have, for niflcant political forces of the country and the prospect of an American withdrawal. whatever reason, stepped up the war., capable both of rallying the army and carry- The object of the serious opposition to the Nor can it be said that the Administration ing forward programs of social reform. We Johnson d fe at but a negotiatabout not an ed settement has laid fairly before the American people a sistancevin rebuilds gvand modernizing the ' the occasional signals, however faint, which Therefore, holding the line in South Viet- have come from Hanoi-as in the early win- South and institutional structures favor oe nam is essential. Surely, we already have ter of 1965, when U Thant's mediation neutralization ot Vietnam. And country, it should favor the enough American troops, firepower and in- reached the point of selecting the hotel in nof its country, o it should stallations. in South Vietnam to make it Rangoon where talks might take place, until it seek negotiation with the Vietcong, eenn to clear that we cannot be beaten unless we we killed the idea by beginning the bombing stay In Vietnam, usersh our commitment at choose to scuttle and run, which will not of the North. Nor, for all our declarations the o d is coming g should not think that happen. The opponents of this strategy about "unconditional" negotiations, have we the world is coming to begin nd. talk as if a holding action would put our refrained from setting conditions-such as, the It the not too late l tithe the aeon of our forces forces under siege and relinquish all initia- for example, that we won't talk to the Viet- military nor would the reduction of our to the enemy. This need not, of course, cong unless they come to the conference fluence. effort damage our international fin be so. It is possible to slow down a war table disguised as North Vietnamese. the the op onhofe this ore respect r to be e won in and co Kennon without standing still; and, if our present Though the Vietcong constitute the great has written, irittttenen of thworld," generals can't figure out how to do this, then bulk of the enemy force, they have been liquidation , of "by a unsound resolute positions and than the let us get generals who can. Generals Ridg- given little reason to think we will negotiate most otiate mos stubborn of extravagant or - r way and Gavin could doubtless suggest some about anything except their unconditional t pureof France stronger names. Moreover, there is a South Vietnam- promising objectives." France was ese army of some 600,000 men which can surrender. than ever after de Gaulle left Algeria, the take all the initiative it wants. And if we It is hard to see why we should not follow Soviet Union suffered no lasting damage from are told that the South Vietnamese are un- the precedent of Laos, when we admitted the puling its nuclear missiles out of Cuba. And willing or unable to fight the Vietcong, then Pathet Lao to the peace talks, and offer the the policy of de-escalation recommended here we must wall the more about the pout- Vietcong the prospect of a say in the future is, of course, something a good deal less than ical of e side wonder the war, political life of South Vietnam-conditioned withdrawal. w The ab act of our military on their laying down their arms, opening De-escalation could work, if there were the j policy, as ob- up their territories and abiding by the will to pursue it . . . This is the hard ques- servers like Henry Kissinger and James Mac- ground rules of free elections. Nor is there tion. The Administration, disposed to the Gregor Burns have proposed, should be the reason to see why we have been so reluctant indiscriminate use of power, enmeshed in the creation and stabilization of secure areas again to follow the Laos model and declare grinding cogs of the escalation machine, where the South Vietnamese might them- neutralization, under international guar- committed to the thesis that China is the selves undertake social and institutional antee, our long-run objective for Vietnam. enemy in Vietnam, obviously could not turn development. Our resources should go, in An Imaginative diplomacy would long since to de-escalation without considerable inner the Vietnam jargon, more to clear-and-hold have discussed the ways and means of such upheaval. The issue in the United States in than to search-and-destroy (especially when neutralization with Russia, France, Britain the months to come will be whether Presi- search-and-destroy more often means search- and other interested countries. Unsatisfac- dent Johnson's leadership is sufficiently re- and-drive-underground). We should get toffy as the situation in Laos may be today, it silient and forbearing to permit a change in rid of those "one-star generals who," in the is still incomparably better than the situa- the direction of policy and arrest what is words of Sir Robert Thompson, "regard their tion In South Vietnam. coming increasingly to seem an accelerating tour in Vietnam as an opportunity to in- On the other hand, negotiation is not an drift toward a great and unnecessary Bulge in. a year's big-game shooting from catastrophe. their helicopter howdahs at Government exclusive, or even primary, American respon- their expense." sibility. Along with a military stalemate, At the same time we should induce the the other precondition of a diplomatic set- (Mrs. DWYER (at the request of Mr. Saigon Government to institute generous tlement is surely a civilian government in WATKINS) was granted permission to amnesty provisions of the kind which worked Saigon. Marshal Ky is one of those Frank- extend her remarks at this point in the so well in the Philippines. And we should enstein's monsters we delight In creating in RECORD and to include extraneous mat- further increase the incentive to come over our "client" countries, very much like the ter.) by persuading the South Vietnamese to aban- egregious General Phoumi Nosavan, who sin- don the torture of prisoners-a practice not gle-handedly blocked a settlement in Laos [Mrs. DWYER'S remarks will appear only horrible in itself but superbly calculated for two years. Like Phoumi, Ky evidently hereafter in the Appendix.] to make the enemy fight to the bitter end, feels that Washington has committed itself In the meantime we must end our own shameful collaboration with this barbarism 1 JUST NOT NEEDED and stop turning Vietcong prisoners over to See "The Politics of Escalation in Viet- (Mr. OTTINGER (at the request of the South Vietnamese when we know that and nam," Reginald Franz Zelnik lnik of f the the University Daleof Scott Mr. MATSUNAGA) was granted permis- torture is probable. California; to be published in October by Sion to extend his remarks at this point As for bombing the North, let us taper Fawcett Books (paperback) and Beacon Press in the RECORD and to include extraneous this off as prudently as we can. Bombing is (hardcover). matter.) Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 22058 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD --HOUSE September 19, 1966 Mr. OTTINGER. Mr. Speaker, once pie of a dam that is needed, is fully justified, East Tennessee Historical Society, McMinn again I am compelled to rise to speak that is reasonable in concept and execution. Chapter. It is to replace the present Hales Bar Dam, East Tennessee Duck Hunters Association. 8;gainst wasteful and unnecessary Fed- that has been undermined by water leaks Sweetwater Valley Feeder Pig Association. eral spending. through porous limestone formations. Nick- Knox County Young Republican Club. This time I am concerned over the ajack also will provide huge locks to allow Southern Field and Creel Club. Tellico Dam project included under title better use of the Tennessee Riverby shipping West Knoxville Sertoma Club. IV in the Public Works Appropriation than currentllyyns b rast DttleneekLd the at Hale'srBar. KKnoxville noxville Men's Garden Club. with e Act of 1come 17787 -which i steed.. harp Uled to come before the House this week.. need for Nickajack Dam is the proposal for Cherokee Rifle and Pistol Club, Inoorpo- This project, which is mentioned building the Tellico Dam on the Little Ten- rated. Assaciation for Preservation of Tennessee page 83 of the Public Works Committee ee nessee River. Perhaps you have heard most about the Antiquities. report on the bill-House Report No. Tellico Dam as a result of the protests of Ossolt Circle-Knoxville. 2044-may seem innocuous. It calls for nature lovers, conservationists and fishermen Middle Tennessee Conservancy Council. a $3.2 million appropriation for a dam who lament that the Tellico Dam would de- Scout Troop 3057. l rivers in our Y-In on the Little Tennessee River in south- river stcos one the additionlast natu as the stronger Appa diaachiann Anglers. can Foresters, Kentucky- rrn development." efor "multipurpose thnpoint that there is no real need for the Tel- TenSqclety of nessee Section. like water resource Now that development, sounds flood lico Dam. AR, Kentucky- like It is not justified by power production James White oChapter, D Athe s oxville. . control, and maybe even power develop- needs. It is not justified by navigation de-Chamber ment-in short, all the good things for mands. It is not supported as a flood control Outdoorsmen, Inc.-Kingsport. which TVA has become famous. measure. The only significant argument this broad opopposition, Frankly, Mr. Speaker, that simply is that is made for the Tellico Dam is that it Knowing would a congressional of f this oad o have new 1) lthere are hims authorized this Tellico Dam scheme? I sites. not the case with Tellico Dam. Tellico would a6gument whenindustria Dam is purely and simply a "pork bar- Poor eel" project that will have the taxpayers s many available industrial sites in the area doubt it-Certainly, not without a good of the United States footing a $42 mil- that are not yet in use, and (2) it is not the deal more information. business of the Federal Government to take Abuses such as this proposed dam indi- lion bill for a risky 5,000-acre real estate the role of real estate developer. sate that new legislation may be neces- speculation. It appears that the real reason behind the nary to bring agencies such as TVA back The so-called "general economic de- Tellico Dam is that its proponents just have into the Federal Government and under velopment" that TVA has in mind in run out of something else to do for the time normal authority of Congress. the Tellico Dam project is really to lure being. Just yesterday, the House Appropria- the e n normal au I would not ngrend to be region of the co in- tions m?riiooni dollars to startethe2projeeot-a an expert on the economics of this Tel- industry from t to this ab un it and the way TVA ate small forerunner of many millions of your liCO Dam project. I do not have to be "profit" to pljprivateVate dollars that would follow. one to see the dangers and the holes left tends to ga to condemn land for resale e at a "profit" to Here is one excellent example of a wise by unanswered, and unasked, questions. industry. place to cut expenditures in this time of gal- For example, TVA predicts that it will I find it very hard to understand why loping inflation, wasteful Federal spending, generate $15 million in economic benefits TVA should ever be involved in this type deficit financing and costly war. from the project. , Almost $11 million of of "pork cbarrel proj ertainly, t" his Tel is at any time. Mr. Speaker, I have inquired and that total is to come from land sales? but o But, mpleiely t of lin Dam scheme found that more than 50 national and what if those land sales do not materi- r scompletely out of end e now when local organizations are strongly opposed alize? If those land sales do not materi-not MeltOLI estraint on Federal spending is so ur- to Tellico Dam. I would like to present ali H- almost they pe cent of that economic gently needed. a partial listing of these organizations not a On top of sound business business pp else,ropositionthis. is I am am for the RECORD: benefit goes down the drain. rea- t once that TVA tried a similar ven- oaonrrue TELLi oC DAM PROJECTD TO THE Mrthe. Speaker, Chattanooga I editor share the that the real suspicion of informed very o acquired this area with no suc- son for the Tellico Dam project is that cess once before cols. Hill They and, a acres on Mel- Nationial WildlifeoFederation. the TVA has just run out of other things tan Hin reservoir s of now, they National Audubon Society. to do. We cannot afford this kind of have only been able to sell one 25-acre National Parks Association. "busy work" in this time of mounting parcel. Wildlife Management Institute. inflation. 'TVA says that the Tellico Dam situa- The Nature Conservancy. believe that we . any tion is different. They say that it has American Forestry Association. Futhermarecan or should, a I ff do ord not not busy work that Amer highwces rail, and water transportation America Pulpwood Assoc ationa d and perhaps destroys valuable . However, that ham lacking ng at Melton of Wildlife. natural resources. Hill, However, I am sure that they were Defenders Trout Unlimited. I have never fished in the Little Ten- just as confident at Melton Hill. Speak- Citizens Committee on Natural Resources. nessee River and i consider it my loss, of ing as a businessman I would want to Tennessee Society of the Daughters of the oof know a great deal more about the market American Revolution. for the the great uns experts tell poiled me se that t this is river one n before I would sink $42 million in a land Tennessee Game and Fish Commission. that part s the Gtunche f r They say speculation to go this. into not think that TTennessee Conservation ennessee Outdoor Press eAssocia.tion. that this dam will wreck this, and I be- TVA but if th they into this kind stockhold- Tennessee Farm Bureau Federation. sieve them. tress, but if they do, then the - Tennessee Livestock Association. Along with the people of Tennessee, ens-the U.S. taxpayers-must have bave bet- Tennessee Federation of Garden Clubs. the numerous conservation agencies ter assurance of the soundness of the Southeastern Outdoor Writers Association. of Tennessee, project than we have seen so far. Association for Preservation of the Little and I urge t t he my great colleagues newspapers so support an I doubt very much whether this Tellico Tennessee River. Dam project would have gotten this far The Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians. amendment to the public works appro- if TVA were required to come to Congress Cherokee Nation, Tribe of Oklahoma. priations bill to delete the appropriation Fort Loudon Association, for the Tellico Dam project. for authorization. Clearly the project is Monroe County Farm Bureau. widely opposed by local groups and by Monroe County Farmers Cooperative. national conservation organizations. I Monroe County Livestock Association. INTERVIEW WITH GEN. WALLACE have received many letters from people McMinn County Farm Bureau. M. GREENE, JR., U.S. MARINE in Tennessee asking my help in stopping Blount County Livestock Association. CORPS TVA. The Chattanooga News-Free Press Greenback Farmers Cooperative. Vonore Lions Club. (Mr. KEOGH (at the request of Mr. summarized ida aeptember in 16: an edi- Childhowee Rod and Gun Club, MATSUNAGA) was granted permission to tonal last Fri day, September Chattanooga Trout Association. extend his. remarks at this point in the JusT NOT NEEDED Atililand Sportsnman's Club. RECORD and to include extraneous mat- ing below Chattanooga, work is progress- Cheroked' Sportsman's Conservation Asso- ter.) ing on the Nickajack Dam. This is an exam- cation. Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 September 19, 1966 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE 22059 Mr. KEOGH. Mr. Speaker, recently bility for less than 10 square miles of real of helicopters, and the ever-improving in- the Commandant of the U.S. Marine estate, with a very small number of Vietna- telligence that we have, it would be much M. Greene, Jr., re- mese living within the perimeters. better, instead of having a barrier type of Corps, turned to Gen. the United Wallace States Greene, the war Today, Inside the Marine Corps' area of defense, to have a mobile, quick-reacting responsibility, there are 1,620 square miles of defense to hit the enemy wherever they may zone in Vietnam, where he made a com- ground and 900,000 Vietnamese civilians. I enter the country. prehensive survey of our military posi- would call this progress. Furthermore, what do you really have when tion.and our relations with the Vietna- More than that: The perimeters are grow- you have a barrier along the DMZ? The mese people. General Greene, who is ing, they keep expanding, and I feel that enemy can always make an end run around completing 3 productive years in the ex- within a reasonable time We're going. to be it. What are you going to do-extend a acting role of Commandant, was inter- able to amalgamate these beachheads into a fence across the entire continent of Asia? single beachhead, which will be proof not Q. Are the two Marine divisions in Viet- viewed by members of the staff of U.S. only to our own people that our programs are nam actually enough to link up those beach- News & World Report. succeeding out there, but also a clear signal heads, and do all the other things required His penetrating comments, as pub- to He Chi Minh that he's losing. of them? lished in the September 5, issue of that Q. When would you estimate the linkup A. If we were to put additional troops in magazine, should be read by every in- will come? - there, we could hasten the effort. terested American: A. I'd say that part of the program should Q. Do you have those in reserve, available GENERAL GREENE TELLS THE STORY OF VIET- come within the next few months. Now, of somewhere in the world? NAM WAR-INTERVIEW WrTH THE COMMAN- course, this doesn't mean that the military A. We have the newly organized Fifth DANT OF THE MARINE CORPS campaign is going to be over, because, al- Division on the West Coast. We've already though we will have torn out the guerrilla started the deployment of one of its regi- (NOTE.-After a year of sustained U.S. ef- infrastructure from the villages and hamlets ments, the 26th Regiment, to the Western fort in Vietnam, at a steadily rising cost, the and forced the enemy out where we can get Pacific. returns are starting to come in-and they're at him in the jungles and mountains to the Two battalion landing teams are already mixed. west, it simply will mean that we've done the either in place or en route, along with the (The military picture is improving, but preliminary surgery. regimental headquarters. They'll come un- how rapidly? Will the Marines be able to Next, we have to get on with the pacifica- der the command of the Ninth Amphibious link up their coastal beachheads? How tion program, which is going to take a con- Marine Brigade on Okinawa. The other two about the Delta-will U.S. have to go after siderable period of time and also is going to regiments of the division are being organized Reds there, too? require U.S. military and civilian effort. on the West Coast, with one battalion in (Mainly: Can U.S. ever win a military vic- Q. For a long time? Kaneohe on Oahu. tory? A. For a long time. Look how long we Q. Those are regulars? (Then there's the pacification side of it. have been in Europe-20 years. How long A. These are regulars, made up of volun- It's agreed that job is just starting. How have we been in Korea? Fifteen years. The teers. Now, in addition to this, of course, long will it take-a year, or five, or 20? point is this is a long-term job. It is not we have the Second Division and air wing (For authoritative answers, "U.S. News & necessarily a long-term military job. We on the East Coast of the U.S.-in North World Report" invited to its conference room may get over that part of it but the pacifica- Carolina, at Camp Lejeune and Cherry Point. the Commandant of the Marine Corps, just tion job is going to take a long time. These are in a ready status to meet contin- back from the war zone. This is an exclu- Q. Do you have enough men to do the gencies in the Atlantic Ocean basin and also sive Interview with members of the maga- military job? in the Mediterranean or Europe. We could, zine's staff.) A. We have 56,000 Marines in South Viet- if necessary, draw down on this air-ground Q. General Greene, did you bring back nam, enough men to slowly expand our per- team. We wouldn't like to do that. Then any dominant impression from your latest imeters as we're doing now. However, of the third source would be our Fourth Marine trip to Vietnam? course, if additional forces were to be in- Division and wing team, which is our Re- A, The thing that impressed me most was troduced, the action could be expedited, serve outfit. I can say, based on my own the tremendous progress that's been made accelerated. experience, that the Reserve is in the best in the seven months since my last inspec- Q. How far from the sea do you intend to ready status that it's ever been in its history. tion-progress which to me augurs of a deft. extend the beachheads? Q. How many men are there in the Marine nite victory. A. From the sea westward to the moon- Reserve) Q. What kind of progress? tains, back far enough to cover the great ma- A. We have about 48,000 in the Orga- A. The magnitude of the entire effort-the jority of people living in our area of respon- nized Reserve and about 56,000 in our Class combat elements, the installations, the sup- sibility. 3 Ready Reserve. porting establishments, storerooms, work- Once you get to the mountains, you'll find Q. If you expand your forces in Vietnam, shops, barracks for the men, recreation areas, very few people. There are 10,000 square will you have to call up any of your Re- and so forth-it is all just tremendous. miles in the First Corps area, but the bulk of serve units? That's No. 1. No. 2 is the progress made in the population-I'd say 90 per cent of the A. Since we've had a gradual intensifica- the pacification of the countryside in the population-is actually centered in just one tion of effort in South Vietnam, we have Northern Provinces where the Marines are fourth of the total territory-in the sliver of been able to avoid calling up the Fourth located, and the success that we're having flatland adjacent to the sea. We're talking Marine Division-the Reserve outfit-and, in the search-and-destroy operations. There about a region with a coastline 165 miles long instead, we were able to organize the Fifth is a very definite and noticeable progress. and 8 to 14 miles in width. Division entirely out of volunteers. I Q. But aren't the Marines really prisoners Q. How many people are concentrated in thought that this was the proper thing to in those beachheads that they are in along this coastal area, altogether? do and so recommended, because I want to the coast? A. Some 2.7 million, plus some 200,000 keep that Fourth Division as a "Sunday A. No, they aren't-that's just the point, refugees. Very few are in the mountains. punch." They're able to get under way with- The beachheads are operating bases; they're it is very, very rugged country up there. In in 60 days after they're called. combat bases on the sea from which we've fact, they have what they call a "double If we had a real serious escalation or not only been operating, but which we're canopy," with not only the ordinary tree- emergency, we could call them up and move gradually expanding. As you know, we went top-level growth, but an extension of this them quickly. in there in March of 1965 and established growth at a second level. This is no country Q. How long does it take to form a new three beachheads, with limited perimeters. in which anyone wants to live. It's tremen- division like the Fifth and get it effective We've been expanding the perimeters ever dously rough. for operation? since. We know that many of the enemy suffer A. The total organization of the Fifth Actually, as I tell a lot of our Marine from malaria and dysentery. It's hard to get Division Will take approximately 12 months. officers, here you are seeing the influence of food. They've had to execute forays toward We started organizing in March of this year. sea power on history, really. the coast in order to get rice to eat, in many As far as heavy equipment is concerned, Q. What are the three beachheads, Gen- cases. I'd say it will take about 18 months to get eras? Q. Would you be in favor of going north everything we need in the way of tanks and A. The principal one is at Da Nang, the as well as west, and extending a barrier artillery and trucks. first beachhead we established. The second parallel to the seventeenth parallel, south of But remember, we're organizing it by small is about 45 miles to the north, at Phu Bat, the so-called DMZ---demilitarized zone-to combat units-our battalion landing teams- which is near the ancient city of Hue. The stop infiltration? and, as I said, we've already deployed the third is some 65 miles south of Da Nang at A. In theory, this present an inviting pie- first of these. But the total process will not Chu Lai. tore, but it becomes very questionable when be completed, as far as people go, until Q. How fast are you pushing out from you examine the logistics required, the engi- March of 1967, these beachheads? Will you be able to link neers required, the time required and the Q. Is the size of the Marine Corps itself up all three before long? troops who must keep it under surveillance. going to have to go up in order to meet the A. This is the thing that really makes me There's a serious question as to whether this planning? feel optimistic. Some 17 months ago, when would be the proper technique or not. A. We're authorized an end strength of we first went ashore, we assumed responsi- With the mobility that we have in the way 278,000, which we'll reach by end of cal- Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 22060 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD HOUSE September 19, 1966 endar 1966. 'Unless there's an intensification A. It was a very clever procedure in which, in the vicinity of Hue. The city has quieted Of effort in South Vietnam, this is the level just below the water level, they would dig down. Da Nang has returned to normal. at which we expect to operate. into the side of,the well and then upward, But here is the vital thing: Even at the Q. Do you expect to get another division and hollow out an enclosure big enough for height of the political emergency up in First in Vietnam soon? two men. Then they would build an air Corps, the fabric which we'd built over the A. We don't necessarily have to have an- conduit into the well itself just above the period of a year in the countryside, among other Marine division In South Vietnam. We water level. the people, held firm, might get help from Vietnamese Marine When we entered the village, they'd dive Q. The trouble was in the cities? units. As you probably know, there is a very into the well, go up into the enclosure and A. Absolutely. Out in the hamlets and fine Vietnamese Marine Corps, and also a hide. We attempted to get them out by put- villages, where we had our pacification pro- Korean Maxine Corps. The Korean marines ting tear gas into the wells, gram under way with the Vietnamese, the are now In $outh,Vietnam. Altogether, there Q. Do you occupy these hamlets? people continued to cooperate with us, and are five battalions of Vietnamese marines. A. Yes, and that's an important thing. we had no difficulty at all. It was only in Both of these units are outstanding, and When this screening operation is over, we the urban areas, where the agitation was un- we'd be very happy to have them operating then leave one Marine squad, plus two squads der way, that there was some difficulty. with us. of local militia. Q. Do these people in the countryside have Q. What are they doing now? Q. That thins out your forces-- any feeling of allegiance to Saigon? A. The Vietnamese marines are In strategic A. That's the point I was going; to bring A. Their allegiance is principally to their reserve in the country. Actually, during our out. In theory, this particular operation as own family, to their village or their hamlet. last two combat operations, "Hastings" and soon as it's completed, should be taken over to their religion, or to small groups. This is Colorado," we've had at least two of their by the Vietnamese themselves, either by the a major problem, because the idea of volun- battalions operating with us. Many of their local police and militia, or by South Viet- tary allegiance to a government is new to officers and men have been trained in our namese Army troops. them. In the past, governments have al- schools here in the States. But the fact is there are not enough- ways been forced on them. There are many, many Koreans and a great and not enough trained-individuals to do This is the problem that's going to take many Vietnamese officers and noncommis- this, so, for the past 18 months, we've had to years. General Walt (Lieut. Gen. - Lewis stoned officers whom we personally know. divert marines from their normal search- young Vietnamese people. That's why he's Q. General, are the Marines spending as thQ.~ Is anything being done in Saigon aigon about spending so much effort on helping to get much time actually in combat in this war as the schools re-established. they have in past wars? A. Everything possible is being done to Q. Did you say the Marines are building A. This is not like many past wars. Actu- expedite the training of Vietnamese civilians schools? ally, we have two programs under way, and and military for the pacification program. A. Of course, and we're not only getting we try to keep them in balance. As I men- Actually, while I was in Saigon I went on assistance from our Government through the tioned, one is our search-and-destroy opera- down to Vung Tau, which is the revolu- AID program, but many thousands of people tion; the other is pacification.. These pro- tionary-development, cadre-training: center- in the United States have made contra u- grams, incidentally, apply throughout the a most interesting place where they had some tions to the Marine Corps Reserve civic-ac- Country and are used by the Army as well as 5,000 civilian Vietnamese under training, to tion program. General Walt has had over the Marine Corps, be organized into 59-man teams to be in- $350,000 made available to him, and most of Q. Exactly what do' you mean by "search serted into these village and hamlet areas this he's spending in the re-establishment and destroy"? to takover after the "County Fair" screen- of the schools. You can't go out there and A, The phrase really describes it very well. g operation has been completed. They are see these children without realizin We search for organized units of the enemy making progress. a how portant this really until we locate them. Once they are located, Q. How do the Marines work alongside fine-looking boys project Is. are ere immediately get out there, usually by these South Vietnamese militia in the vii- and girls. They're smart. mhelicopter, and strike and try to destroy or lages? I've talked with a lot of them. They're anx- helicopter, them. That's the first program: A.. Very closely. We have what we call ions to go to school. And here is the basis, Find the enemy, fix him and kill him. combined-action companies, which are rapid- I feel, of hope for the country. The second program-and in the long run ly growing in number in the First Corps Q But that's along-time proposition- is, the more important of the two-ia our pact- area, consisting usually of a squad or a A. Ito r but we should ask: Is it worth- n, ro am, which is also known under platoon of U.S. Marines, and then several Intertwined while or not? hich and rso ally p squads or two or three - hismall with our pledge the terms of "civic action," "revolutionary platoons of Viet- or "rehabilitation," This pro- namese militia. We work with them, train don't feel should dw w to this small cou welsh hicon, h I we have! alp gram consists of pulling out of the village them, develop their leadership, actually op- own n al sts ave our and hamlet structure the Viet Cong who crate with them against the Viet Cong. must ere ber. We didn't i didn't t, too, this t- have been living in these areas for years- Eventually we'll be able to pull our units out, field remember. Vietnam; select ele bats identifying them, encouraging them to re- and they will operate by themselves. These tn which South can and turn to the Government side through the people are good fighters. They're loyal, and one an which we can adequately meet and "Open arms" defector program, capturing, they work with us in ambushes and opera- cope with the enemy. killing them, or forcing them into the jungle tions at night. In fact, one company I saw nomIf we were to withdraw from ous pres sttigge and mountains to the west-and then start- was on such close terms with our marines , we'd not only lose tremendous pe ing on community programs to get people that they were wearing U.S. Marine Corps throughout the world, but it would only be back on their feet. Insignia on one of the lapels of their pa- and matter of me before we'd have meet the threat somewhere else either Q. How in the world do you identify the jamas as an indication of how they felt. on the Subcontinent, in the Middle East, enemy in any particular village? Another most interesting thing is the atti- Amaybe in Australia and New Zealand, per- tude of the young marines in these com- . Back in the 1940s the Marine Corps, bined-action companies. hags Thailand, which is already threatened which has had a great deal of experience in in the northeast corner, and, finally, perhaps small wars, developed a "cordon system" for I talked with a tall, lean, lanky, Texan. even on our own doorstep, in Latin America. the l wars, d v of dma, areas. We're for I'd say the boy, a corporal, is about 20 years old. He hardly let me go, he was so enthu- We either have to choose meet the enc- tually using this method-we call it the siastic about what he was accomplishing. my here, or face the almost certainty of hav- County Fair" operation. I saw one of these He showed me his unit. He showed e ing to meet him somewhere else, on another operations actually being conducted during where they were billeted. He introduced me battlefield, where the price of admission will my recent visit, and it was most interesting. to the village officials. He told me about be many times what it's been so far. What we do: We select a hamlet, say of their operations at night against the Viet WE CONTROL SEA AND AIR 500 or 600 people. We put a cordon around Cong. He took me down and showed me the Q. Isn't true that the Joint Chiefs of Staff that hamlet, usually before daylight. Then, school they just got back into Operation. at one time opposed the idea of fighting an- with South Vietnamese troops, we enter the They had six classrooms and about 200 kids. other land war in Asia? hamlet, assemble all the people, screen each He took me in and introduced me to the A. This problem came up, as you know, in individual, move the people out of the ham- teachers. let into an enclosure where we can start 1eco, when It looked as if we were to giv- Then this hapened: The going, ing them medical treatment, feeding them in-command said he was going to xtend his become c ursel that would have been a most and issuing identity cards. This takes about tour in Vietnam for six months, because he difficult problem, because you have in Laos three days. had been told he could have a unit of his a landlocked area, extremely rough country, Now, if any of the Viet Cong in the village own like this In the next village. You see, very limited roads, practically no railroads, attempt to escape, the cordon snares them. these men really believe in what they're far from the sea. This would have been a If they attempt to hide, we find out where accomplishing. most difficult operation to mount and to they are and dig them out. In this particular Q. Have you political stability in your area sustain. village, we killed 10 Viet Cong and found a now? But we can't always select the area in .number of them hiding in the wells. A. Vwa ,era An 1fl.1e ...... w. an tine weitez had turbulence c up tb~ere in April and May, we eventually didn't go into Laos, we found Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7, September 19, 1966 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -HOUSE 22061 ourselves slowly slipping into the situation for example, they have taken over the village Delta and d probably is accurate forecast finih there. that in which we find ourselves now in South and they control the people. er apIs a pacification noa program under way in Vietnam. Fortunately, we're fighting in a Q. What's their motivation? country where we have ready access from A. They have been sold the Communist the Delta? is a program under way, but the sea, and we control the sea and control idea-that's one motivation. A. There the air. Q. Can the regular Northern troops be in- much remains to be done. The program be- Q. Would it help the war much in the filtrated into the Southern villages, into the ing conducted now is under the auspices of South if the port of Haiphong in the North infrastructure? Will they be accepted there? South Vietnamese military units. that are Delta 's just were be shut down tight, by mining the a number of Northern born prisoners who, In Alswhicho, of underethe controlfofhcerrtain harbor r or by other means? group d to A. You've e raised a question that's not only the first place, don't know the countryside th eViet Congs Bwho utatheret~aytremendous military but also political. The political and, secondly, are not accepted by the peo- factor has to be measured, and this has been ple. In fact, the Viet Cong themselves are job to be done in the Delta area, because so m along-and are -with- ple axe convinced that the Ameri cans and manyspeop e a dl hamlets be villages to be one of uch problem. the We determinants out this action being taken. the Vietnamese that come in-in the mili- pacified. start Q. Is that Q. Is the flow of supplies slowing from the gtary units-are etting information f om them has to wewhere the one in the northern areas?y problem from North? A. Somewhat. I think where you notice the Communist fighters are, who they are A. Yes. In the north, although we have it is In a drop-off of motorized vehicles, such where they're hiding, where their caches are. rivers running down to the sea, we don't as trucks, and also in boats that are pro- This is, again, a most encouraging part of have the tremendous marshes and rice pad-' dies yo-d find In Delta. pelled by motors. This is a result, of course, this whole operation. ta, you have a multitude of of our attacks on their oil-storage facilities MAJOR ELEMENTS FROM NORTH In rivers the and Delettaams throughout. Then, of in the North. However, infiltration of men Q. Would this suggest that the usefulness course, you're on the ocean, with a very long still continues at about 4,500 to 5,000 men a of the North Vietnamese forces is largely con- coastline. In addition to that, you're next month. fined to uninhabited areas? to the Cambodian border, which also poses a Q. General, what do you think of Prime A. Northerners are alien in the South, but problem. Minister Nguyen Cao Ky's idea that we have the Communist side-our enemy-would in- Q. How do you deal with this problem? to invade North Vietnam in order to end this troduce them into any area where they felt A. The job certainly can be done. There's war? that they could gain a military advantage. nothing insurmountable about it. It's going A. Well, several times the Prime Minister For example, in the Second Corps area, which to take people, it's going to take equipment, has made various statements which are his is in the central part of South Vietnam, and it's going to take time. own personal opinions. I feel that the real the plateau area around Pleiku and Kontum, Q. Do the Communists have organized key in this war is whether we have success they've been introducing major elements in units in the Delta, or do they operate as in- frastructure failure ripping out the guerrilla in- order to meet the U.S. Army's airmobile diva- dividuals pretty much? frastructura from these villages and hamlets. sign in battle. A. They operate just as they do in the rest I think the North Vietnamese are watching Q. Where do they come from? How do of the country-as individuals and as small this, because they know that, if they lose the they get there? guerrilla bands. people in the South, they lose the war. A. They come down through Laos, along Q. How do they supply themselves? Q. Just who is it that you're fighting- the Ho Chi Minh Trail, and infiltrate across A. Principally from the countryside, so fax mostly Southern Viet Cong, or regular-army the border through innumerable ingresses. as food is concerned. Their ammunition troops from North Vietnam? I've seen some of these. For instance, one has been brought in across the border or A. When we went initially into South Viet- is the Ba Long Valley up in the First Corps across the coast. nam, into First Corps area, our principal area. This is a deep valley that comes right Q. Are we getting geared up for this kind enemy was the "black pajama" guerrilla, across from Laos, right through the moun- of war in the Delta? Now, the interesting thing: During my last tains into the area in the vicinity of Hue. A. We're always planning ahead for possi- visit, Operation Colorado was in progress. This is a natural path-in a natural ingress. ble operations, not only In the Delta, but We had just thwarted an ambush. There Q. They come on foot? throughout the country. were some 200 bodies of the enemy scattered A. They come on foot a good deal of the Q. Will it take the same sort of effort in around this village in which the ambush had way. However, in their initial movement out the Delta as in the First Corps area-the been set up. In looking over the dead, and of North Vietnam, they ride trucks. They occupation of villages? also looking over a group of prisoners which ride until they get down to the place where A. Yes, the same two programs-search- our marines had taken, we found the bulk there are only trails, and then they infiltrate and-destroy and pacification-apply here of these people were North Vietnamese, with by foot along the trails. just de much as they do up in the mountain- sig nnificant of indication- guerrillas. that To m they e, this have Q. How are they supplied? ous northern portion of the country. only Is a a sprinkling is a ifica A. They're supplied by truck and also-as Q. Aren't those villages different in the found it necessary to introduce North Viet- they have been in many other previous Delta-very difficult to guard because they namese into the country in order to get on wars-by pack, -by coolie, by bicycle. stretch for miles along canals? with the campaign that the guerrillas are Q. Do you agree with the theory that this A. Here; again, the problem essentially is actually Q Do the m losing. war might just fade away if the enemy gets the same as we havq farther north. What A. W 't taki take many prisoners? the idea that he is losing? was tried before, unsuccessfully, was to set during is A. I certainly think it's a possibility. I up the so-called strategic-hamlet program in Awe'd We . Bu taking as many prisoners Ope like. But I saw about 2h durithis think Ho Chi Minh, as he watches the situa- which the hamlets were fortified, but their Operation Colorado. There had been 20 tion in the South and sees that he's losing defense was left to the people, or to very prisoners captured. control, may then decide that the easiest way poorly trained militia. Q. Do they tend to fight until they're is temporarily to fade out of the picture in Under the system we're using now, well- killed? hthat we'll leave the country-or that trained units are left in these areas to hold A. No, you find a varie. uome of them hopes fight until they're s so badly yy wounded that we at a later opportunity he'll be able to m- them. These- units are not only our own can take them prisoner. Others surrender, filtrate with political teams and take over. military and the South Vietnamese military, Others, even at the early part of the fight, This would be one prospect. It's happened but also the "revolutionary-development just desert and come over to our side. before, and it's an easy way to do it without cadre" teams-the development teams that are being trained. Q. Don't the Communists have an endless any loss of prestige. Q. As this develops, it's going to take tre- en? supply of m WHY THE DELTA IS VITAL mendous manpower, isn't it? A. Theyhave a tremendous manpower Q. You are optimistic about the situation A. It already is taking tremendous man- pool in the North, of course, and they can in the Northern Provinces, where the Marines power. You have about 700,000 men under decide, if obey want go, period ntinue a war But have been located-but are things as bright arms from South Vietnam itself, of course, attrition s: a What r they going time. But in the Southern Provinces, in the Mekong and we've got about 290,000 of our own the point If: What are f they see, t gain at Delta? What is the situation there? troops there. The Koreans have over 20,000. this sort of operation if thsee, first, that The Delta, as all of us well know, is a The Australians are represented, and so are they've lost the people and, two, that we're tremendous area with a long seacoast, a net- the New Zealanders. A contingent from the effort - Q. Who d h are to see those the "black lack pajama" "guar' work of waterways-the rice bowl certainly Philippines is expected. Q. o of South Vietnam and possibly of Southeast The one thing that comes out of any dis- rillas? . Asia-5 million people who offer not only a cussion of this situation is the magnitude A. Most are local people, and d people hamlets who of tax base for the guerrillas but also a recruit- of the task to be done. wore born the equent and base. It is an area of the utmost im- Q. Is it going to take as many more people South Vietnam, frequently led ra d into cadres as we have over there now? trained in the North and rei they the South. By virtue of the fact that that thI heard one of the leading officials of South A. I wouldn't want to speculate on how are the only ones in a village that have arms, Vietnam say that the war started in the long it would take or how many troops it Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B0b446R000400110009-7 Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 1&wnz CONGRESSIONAL RECORD . HOUSE September 19, 1966 would take. But let me say this: It will take They know that they can whip this enemy point of view, but I'm also keeping firmly in a long time, and it will take a large number that they face. They've done it every time mind the problem of economics the the flow of or troops. that they've met them in any major opera- gold, the cost, the casualties, th Q. Are the South Vietnamese proving good tion of any sort. They know that the tre- meaning o soldiers? mendous of these things tt our and our and aln fps A. Yes, they are. When you remember that hind them as evident d bUnitedy the arnrnunitionbe- p , with other of r nations and e ne interest st or these people have been fighting and dying for food and installations that are going into the whe who have an nterest or 20 years, to think that they're still in the 'country. They feel in their own minds that are involved in this, too. you mean by a "satisfactory fighting business is a remarkable thing. this campaign Is going to be a success. Q. to the war? We find that these people, if they're well Q. General, are you confident-- closeI to ea war? led, will fight well. We've had scores of ma- A. Just two more points about morale that A. I mean providing firm security to the Tines Operating as advisers with their units, struck me: people i ca io Vietnam and getting on with and they speak most highly of them. If they I got to Okinawa, and I was really aston- Q. p Once hat' prone, d ne, do you think that it are led properly, they are good fighters. ished to find out that they had a blood-donor is finished ished that's for all dotime? Q. Are the Viet Cong good fighters, too? campaign, and the marines who were Well, I wouldn't say A. Very good fighters--dangerous fighters. through Okinawa on their way down to South foralltime. I'm juste saying that itficanhbe During Operation Colorado, the Viet Cong Vietnam were contributing blood. brought to the status to which we want it who were there fought until they were killed The other thing that struck me was the brought and to which the Vietnamese them- right In their positions. They didn't run fact we had lots of units in South. Vietnam selves want it. away. They fought. They're good fighters, them were over 50 per cent-and some of They are well-equipped. They have good them almost 100 per cent-in U.S.. savings- WHEN T LEAVE CAN weapons. bond purchases. In fact, in one place in Chu Q. And our troops s could d then come home? WEAPONS USED BY REDS Lai I ran into a supply-support unit which A. Then our troops could start to come Q. What athe weapons--Chinese? had a sign listing its savings-bond activity- home. As soon as the South Vietnamese Q. Most are the t weapons shat I've seen are 90 per cent-and down at the bottom it said: people have started on the rehabilitation of Soot design, manufactured In China. "We believe in the U.S.A." I thought that program-so that their own military forces, Q. These are n, ml arms? was something that. people back here in the their local police and militia are able to pro- Q. Small arms asome antiaircraft weep- United States might think about. tact them from any guerrillas that would be ons. ors. Of course, and n know ant surface-to-air raf t weapQ. Are you satisfied that your men are out in the countryside-then I would say m in North the Vietnam is pro- getting the righkind of training before they that we could start withdrawing our troops. vIded issile by the entet Union. are sent out to fight? I think it will be some time, however, be- Q. What about et Uri reuse In casualties, A. You bet I am. The marines who are fore we will be able to do this. General? going out to South Vietnam are going out A. I don't. think our casualties have been there prepared to fight. They aren't going ex A. Irdint think oe had abtes have men out there to learn on the job. They know (Mr. RODINO (at the request of Mr. We' extra d to 000 date, and 8, h aboutd. That is their jobs before they go. We have a tremen- MATSUNAGA) was granted permission to just in the Marine Corps. The bulk of those dous training system under way now, and extend his remarks at this point in. the wounded returned to duty. we are introducing every scrap of informa- RECORD and to include extraneous rnat- The medical ereatment our men are re- our tion that we training system, in South Vietnam Into ter.) , so that the marines ceiving, now is really outstanding. We're that leave the United States, both the pro- [Mr. RODINO'S remarks will appear losing less than 2 per cent of our wounded fessionals and also the short-timers, are be- hereafter in the Appendix.] in this campaign out there, and it's due to ing given very detailed, thorough instruc- the advances that have been made in mili- tary medical treatment. For example, we tion in booby traps, mines, enemy tech- are gedic people that aak example, the niqu.es, methods of ambushes, and all the (Mr. RODINO (at the request of Mr. front line back in the States, undergoing counters that are used by our own troops. MATSUNACA) was granted permission to Q. treatment, in five days' time. . How long is a Marine tour? A. extend his remarks at this point in the One incident that struck me while I was A Marine tour is 13 months, portal to at Chu Lai: We had a boy that had just portal--U.S. to U.S. It means 12 months RECORD and to include extraneous nlat- come in from the front lines, badly woundeed. out there and about two weeks out, two ter.) I me in f talking wfr him and adly woo ds weeks back, including the processing. [Mr. RODINO'S remarks will appear General with a Purple Heart. Two days later, when Q. iven a r Greene, are the military pe sere- hereafter in the Appendix.] I was at Clark Field at the Philippines, I went of t i gthis iven a r OrIs free a hand ui a ob operation into an evacuation plane that was about to ?f war? Or is there quite a bi t of politi- take o$ for Andrews Air Force Base near cal direction? Washington, D.C., and the first man I saw A. This war, like all modern wars,, is ter- INCOME TAX DEDUCTION FOR wthis boy whom I had seen in the hospital tainly a mixture of both military and politi- TEACHERS was Chu Lai, cal factors-and, as time goes on, the years pass by, this becomes even more evident and ( CRALEY the request :M MORALE: HOW GI's FEEL, even more important. You can't look at any 1VIATSU SUNAGA) was g gr ranted permission to o Q. How is morale? - of these problems in Southeast Asia purely extend his remarks at this point in the A, Again, on this trip, like on other trips, from the military point of view. RECORD and to include extraneous I never founFi a single wounded man-and I Q. When you analyze a problem, do you matter.) include many Army and Air Force and have a free hand or do civilians tend to Mr. CRALEY. Mr. Speaker, of the Navy-who ever complained to me over the override you? fact that he was wounded.. A. We have a very free hand in anal zf many grave problems confronting us to- When I got to Japan, I went down to a problem, and we try to do it not only frcm day, I know of none more immediate, Yokosuka to the naval hospital to see the the military point of view, but also from the serious, and of lasting significance than wounded. As I was going along the wards, economic and political viewpoints, too, the critical shortage of teachers. The one of the nurses came to me and said: We make recommendations to the officials Elementary and Secondary Education "There's a wounded man, a corporal over in the Administration as to what our views Act and Higher Education Act will, like there, and he requests mast with you." are. Now, they aren't necessarily always fol- medicare, have the immediate effect of Well, you know what mast is: It's a session a lowed, but we have freedom to make known pointing up an already existing shortage; commander gives on request to any one of our views-which we do. fors teachers. his men who wants to present a problem or Q. From the very beginning in this war, Thenamely, rationale for manpower complaint or ask for help. there have been so many optimistic state- So r supporting those bills I went over to this boy. He was badly ments that a good many people are saying and others improving educational oppor- wounded in the stomach and in one leg. He they just don't believe them any more. Does tunity in the United States, is also behind was so badly hurt that he couldn't sit up in that critidsm bother you? my present support of legislation to bed. He could just lie there. He couldn't A. Not particularly. Any estimate that one amend the Internal Revenue Code of speak very loudly, so I bent over. And he makes hinges on the background and expe- 1954. The purpose of this amending said to me: "General, I know I'm going to be rience of the individual who makes it, plus legislation I support is to allow teachers all right. It's going to take a few weeks, and his interpretation of what he sees if he to deduct from gross income the expense I have just one thing I want to ask you, actually goes into the country. and that is that, when I'm able to walk, I I know I sound optimistic to you, and I'm incurred in pursuing courses for academic want to return to my unit." enthusiastic about what I see, because I'm credit and degrees at institutions of Now, here was a boy 19 years old, making convinced, if we keep on with what we're higher education and certain educational that kind of a request. You find this atti- doing, that we can bring a satisfactory close travel expenses. tude everywhere in South Vietnam-a feeling to this conflict in South Vietnam. of July 7,1966, the Inrn Revenue that they've finally got the thing under way. I'm looking at It primarily from a military Service indicated an iri ention to change Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 .ate , i September 19, 1966 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -SENATE 22125 recorded in volume 65-D, of Births, at page 110. Given under by Hand and Official Seal of Office at Lancaster, South Carolina, this 23rd day of May, A.D. 1962. LEE O. MONTGOMERY, Clerk of Court for Lancaster County, S.C. By Deputy Clerk. PENN-CENTRAL MERGER Mr. KENNEDY of New York. Mr. President, I was pleased at today's action by the interstate Commerce Commission in reaffirming its April 27 decision re- garding the Penn-Central merger. The Commission's maintenance of Septem- ber 30, 1966, as the effective date of the merger is particularly important to the future of the New Haven Railroad. Early consummation of the merger will insure that continuance of the New Haven's vital passenger and commuter services is not Jeopardized by delays in the Penn-Central proceeding. Other problems may well lie ahead for the New Haven, but the ICC's action today as- sures that it will not be the stumbling block to a longrun solution of the New Haven's situation. Today's decision is also commendable for its assurance that the ICC will con- sider further the question of indemnifi- cation of the Erie-Lackawanna, Dela- ware & Hudson, and Boston & Maine Railroads by the merging railroads, and that these three carriers will have an op- portunity to seek ultimate inclusion with- in the Penn-Central system. As the Commission itself points out, further pro- ceedings regarding these three carriers will be governed by the "fair and equi- table" language of the Interstate Com- merce Act. These three railroads pro- vide important transportation services that must not be neglected, and the Com- mission's assurances regarding their future are a step forward in develop- ing an approach to keeping these services in operation. I have supported the concept of a merger between the Pennsylvania and New York Central Railroads since the time that I was Attorney General. It has been and is my belief that such a merger is the first step forward in the develop- ment of a modern and integrated trans- portation system in the eastern part of the United States. Such a system must exist if we are to satisfy the growing needs of this region's citizens for swift and efficient service from city to city and from city to suburb. That is why early consummation of the merger, with ade- quate provision for inclusion of vital STHERS ARE NOW ALSO REVEALING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE UNDE- CLARED WAR IN VIETNAM Mr. GRUENING. Mr. President, lit- tle by little-trickle by trickle-the truth about the U.S. tragic and needless in- volvement in a large=scale land war in southeast Asia is coming to light. Over this last weekend, four important statements appeared in the public press showing the growing fears of an ever- widening group of people concerning the quagmire in which the United States finds itself enmeshed in Vietnam because of its rigidity of position, its failure to face facts, and its consistent adherence to preconceived misconceptions. Writing in the New York Times maga- from Hanoi, are trying to establish a Com- munist despotism in South Vietnam, not for the Chinese but for themselves. Let us understand that the ultimate problem here is not military but political. Let us adapt the means we employ to the end we seek. In the same vein, speaking out against what he said was an idea fostered out- side of Vietnam that the conflict there was a "kind of holy war between two powerful political ideologies," U Thant, Secrtary General of the United Nations stated, as part of his annual report to the United Nations : The Vietnamese people, in particular, have known no peace for a quarter of a century. Their present plight should be the first, and not the last, consideration of all concerned. Indeed, I remain convinced that the basic problem in Vietnam is not one of ideology but one of national identity and survival. I see nothing but danger in the idea, so as- siduously fostered outside Vietnam, that the conflict is a kind of holy war between two powerful political ideologies. Also, over the weekend, the Vatican an- nounced that Pope Paul VI would urge prayers on a worldwide basis. during the month of October as part of a peace cam- paign to end the war in Vietnam. It is to be hoped that the prayers of the mul- titudes will include one for those in posi- tions of leadership in the administration to face up to the facts not only as they are but as they were so that our future course of action can be determined in the light of reality rather than fantasy. Last Saturday, September 17, 1966, an- other former adviser to both President Kennedy and President Johnson, Rich- ard Goodwin, speaking before the na- tional board of the Americans for Demo- cratic Action here in Washington, also asked that the American people face up to realities with respect to U.S. involve- ment in Vietnam. With his knowledge of the inner workings of the White House, Mr. Goodwin called attention to the growing credibility gap between the administration and the American peo- ple. Speaking to this point he said : zine for September 18, 1966, under the title "A Middle Way Out of Vietnam," the noted historian and former special assistant to both President Kennedy and President Johnson, Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., gave a striking analysis of the course open to the United States to extricate itself from its difficult position in Viet- nam. Professor Schlesinger points out: The Illusion that the war in South Viet- nam can be decided in North Vietnam is evidently a result of listening too long to our own propaganda. Our Government has insisted so often that the war in Vietnam is a clear-cut case of aggression across fron- tiers that it has come to believe itself that the war was started in Hanoi and can be stopped there . . . Yet the best evidence Is that the war began as an insurrection within South Vietnam which, as it has gathered momentum, has attracted Increasing support and direction from the north. Even today the North Vietnamese regulars in South Vietnam amount to only a fraction of the total enemy force (and to an even smaller fraction of the American army in South Viet- nam). About U.S. attempts at reconstruction, Professor Schlesinger writes: Much devotion and intelilgence are at pres- ent going into the programs of reconstruc- tion, but prospects are precarious so long as the enemy can slice through so much of South Vietnam with such apparent immu- nity; and so long as genuine programs of social reform threaten the vested interests of the Saigon Government and of large landholders. Professor Schlesinger's assessment of the reconstruction program is under- scored by a report appearing in the New York Times this morning from Saigon by Charles Mohr stating: Top South Vietnamese officials have made varying assessments of the pacification or "revolutionary development" work done so far in 1966. The most optimistic was that performance was "not quite satisfactory," the bluntest that progress was "quite limited" and that "not much was achieved." Commenting on administration state- ments that the real enemy in Vietnam is Red China, Professor Schlesinger warns: The air is charged with rhetoric. We are buried in statements and speeches about negotiation and peace, the defense of free- dom and the dangers of communism, the de- sire to protect the helpless and compassion for the dying. Much of it is important and sincere and well-meaning. Some is intended to deceive. Some Is deliberate lie and dis- tortion. But the important thing is not what we are saying, but what we are doing; not Vietnam is China is basic to the policy of what is being discussed, but what is happen- widening the war. It is the vital element in ing.... In this, as in so many aspects of the the Administration case. Yet the proof Our war, much of the information which feeds leaders have adduced for this proposition has judgment is deeply obscured. Of course, in been exceedingly sketchy and almost per- times of armed conflict facts are often elu- functory. It has been proof by ideology and sive and much information, of necessity, can- proof by analogy. It has not been proof by not be revealed. By its nature war is hostile reasoned argument or by concrete illustra- to truth. Yet with full allowance for neces- tion. sary uncertainties I believe there has never As for the middle course for the future, been such intense and widespread deception and confusion as that which surrounds this Professor Schlesinger advises: war. The continual downpour of contradic- I think a middle course is still possible tion, mis-statements, and kaleidoscopically if there were the will to pursue it. And this shifting attitudes has been so torrential that course must begin with a decision to stop it has almost numbed the capacity to sepa- widening and Americanizing the war-to rate truth from conjecture or falsehood. limit our forces, actions, goals and rhetoric. Instead of bombing more places, sending in Calling for a return to the platform of more troops, proclaiming ever more ardently the Democratic Party in 1964, "No wider that the fate of civilization will be settled in war," Mr. Goodwin called for the forma- Vietnam, let us recover our cool and try to Lion of a "national committee against see the situation as it is: a horrid civil war in which Communist guerrillas, enthusiasti- widening of the war." He said : Approved For Refe1 *2005/06/29: CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA=RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 22126 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE September 19, 1966 I suggest this organization Work with other in motion the policy of support for Saigon from the Even today the North Viet- groups and individuals to form a national which resulted, two Presidents later, in namese regulars in South Vietnam amount ,committee against widening of the war. It American military intervention in 1985. to only a fraction of the total enemy force will not be aimed at withdrawal or even a Each step in the deepening of the American (and to an even smaller fraction of the lessening of the war in the South, although commitment was reasonably regarded at the American army in South Vietnam). We individuals who oppose escalation may also time as the last that would be necessary; could follow the genial prescription of Gen- hold those views. Thus it will be-open to yet, in retrospect, each step led only to the eral LeMay and bomb North Vietnam back to all groups who oppose escalation In the North next, until we find ourselves entrapped to- the Stone Age-and the war would still go regardless of their position on Other issues, day in that nightmare of American strate- on in South Vietnam. To reduce this war to and will be open to the millions of Americans gists, a land war in Asia-a war which no the simplification of a wicked regime molest- who belong to no group but who share this President, including President Johnson, ing its neighbors, and to su basic belief and apprehension. Such a com? desired or intended. The Vietnam story is a be ended by punishing the wick wickeedr ret it can riil titee can provide a constant flow of objec- egime, is tive Information about Vietnam. It can keep tragedy without villains. No thoughtful surely misconceive not only the political b- vigil over official statements and ask the hard dent oh can withhold sympathy rests but even n the he military itary character of the e pro questions which might help separate wish- Whc Johnsen ponders the gloomy choices lam. ful think which lie ahead. As for the assurances that China will not ing from facts. It will neither be Yet each President, as he makes his choices, enter, these will be less than totally satisfy- against the Administration nor for it, neither, must expect to be accountable for them. Ing to those whose memory stretches back to with any political party or opposed to It, Everything in recent weeks-the actions of the Korean War. General MacArthur, an neither liberal nor conservative. Its sole aim the Administration, the intimations of ac- other one of those military experts on Orien- will be to mobilize and inform the American tions to come, even a certain harshness in the tal psychology, when asked by President Tru- people in order to Increase the invisible Presidential rhetoric--suggests that Presi- man on Wake Island in October, 1950, what weight of what I believe to be the American dent Johnson has made his choice, and that the chances were of Chinese intervention, re- majority in the deliberations and inner coon- his choice is the careful enlargement of the plied, "Very little.... Now that we have cils of government. - Its purpose is to help war. New experiments in escalation are first bases for our Air Force in Korea, if the Chi- the President and others in government by denied, then disowned, then discounted nese tried to get down to Pyongyang, there proving a counter pressure against those who and finall undertaken. As urge a more militant course; a pressure for y past medicine would bathe igrea ndthe slaughter." Such rest which those in government should be grate- increase we to do to cdo e. In May think ary is of Secret axy lay of Siat the de arsEthe A (fair at ful since it will help them pursue the course the Air he Air the force dose. In explained May why the Secret re of that time is Scret for Far Eastern ada ) to s send of wise restraint. were were not that time is Secretary of State today) to send going to bomb Hanoi and Haiphong; at the American troops across the 38th Parallel de- As more and more of the truth is re- end of June we began the strikes against the spite warnings from Pelting that this would vealed about, the reasons for the United oil depots. The demilitarized zone between provoke a Chinese response. In a few vveeks, States becoming mired in the morass in North and South Vietnam has been used by China was actively in the war, and, while Vietnam, many more people will join North Vietnam 'units nits for years, but sud- there was the greatest slaughter, it was not their voices with those who have been dently we have begun to bomb it. notably of the Chinese. When such steps work no miracle--and it is There seems little question that the Chi- speaking out for years against the steady safe to predict that escalation will be no nese have no great passion to enter the war escalation of the U.S. commitment in more decisive in the future than it has been in Vietnam. They do not want to put their Vietnam and demand a halt to this sense- In the past-the demand will arise for "just nuclear plants. in hazard; and, in any case, less escalation of a war we should not be one more step." Plenty of room remains for their foreign policy has typically been a com- In. widening the war: the harbors of North Viet- pound of polemical ferocity and practical I ask unanimous consent that there be nam, the irrigation dikes, the steel plants, prudence. But the leaders in Peking are no pr ask at the conclusion consent the factories, the power grid, the crops, the doubt just as devoted students of Munich as my remarks civilian population, the Chinese border. The the American Secretary of State. They are the article by Mr. Schlesinger referred to fact that we excluded such steps yesterday is, sure that we are out to bury them; they be- from New York Times magazine for alas, no guarantee that we will not pursue lieve that appeasement Invites further ag- September 18, 1966, the article by Mr. them tomorrow. And if bombing will not gression; and, however deep their reluctance, Mohr from the New York Times for Sep- bring Ho Chi Minh to his knees or stop his at some point concern for national survival tember 19, 1966, excerpts from the report support of the Vietcong in South Vietnam, will make them fight. by Secretary General U. Thant, the ar- there is always the last restart of Invasion. When will that point be reached? Prob- bylSfrom the York World Journal ar General Ky has already told us that we must ably when they are confronted by a direct Trieu o fat, September 18, o66, Jdescrib- invade North Vietnam to win the 'war. In threat to their frontier, either through bomb- his recent press conference, the Secretary of Ing or through an American decision to cross ing the Pope's proposed action, and ex- State twice declined to rule out this the 17th Parallel and invade North Vietnam. cerpts from the speech by Richard Good- possibility. If a Communist regime barely established in win on September 17, 1966, before the The theory, of course, is that widening the Peking could take a decision to intervene Americans for Democratic Action. war will shorten it. This theory appears to against the only atomic power in the world There being no objection, the material be based on three convictions: first, that the in 1950, why does anyone suppose that a r5-- 6110 [From the New York (N.Y.) Times Magazine, tor y" and third, that military vic- Present discord in Peking, war may seem the y" in some sense Is possible. Perhaps best way to renew revolutionary discipline, Sept. 18, 1966] these premises are correct, and in another stop the brawling and unite the nation. SCHLESINGER SUGGESTS THAT WE RECOVER OUR year or two we may all be saluting the wis- It is true that the Chinese entry into the COOL AND FOLLOW A MIDDLE WAY OUT OF dom and statesmanship of the American Korean War had at least the passive support VIETNAM Government. In so inscrutable a situation, of the Soviet Union; but it would be risky to- (By Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.) no one can be confident about his doubt and day to rely on the Sino-Soviet split to save Why we are in Vietnam is gar, a disagreement. Nonetheless, to many' Amer- 'us from everything, including Soviet aid to today question icans these propositions constitute a terribly China in case of war with the United States of only historical interest, We are there, for shaky basis for action which has already car- or even direct Soviet entry into the war In better or for worse, and we must deal with ried the United States into a ground war in Vietnam. For the Soviet Union is already the situation that exists. Our national Asia and which may well carry the world to extensively involved in Vietnam-more so in securtly may not have compelled us to draw the brink of the third world war. a sense than the Chinese-and it would be a line across Southeast Asia where we did, The illusion that the war in South Viet- foolish to suppose that, given Moscow's com- but, having drawn It, we cannot lightly nam can be decided in North Vietnam Is petition with Peking for the leadership of the abandon it. Our stake in South Vietnam evidently a result of listening too long to our Communist world, Russia could afford to may have been self-created, but it has none- own propaganda. Our Government has In- stand by and allow Communist North Viet- theless become real. Our precipitate with.. sisted so often that the war in Vietnam is nam or Communist China to be destroyed by drawal now would have ominous reverbera- a clear-cut case of aggression across fron- the American imperialists. tions throughout Asia. Our commitment tiers that it has come to believe itself that As for the third premise (that military of ov except 300 al0skm ric ntrroops, young men the war was started in Hanoi and can be "victory" is In some sense possible) : The cruel gallantry engaged in stopped there. "The war," the Secretary of Joint Chiefs of Staff, of course, by definition and difficult warfare, measures the State has solemnly assured us, "is clearly argue for military solutions. They are the magnitude of our national concern. an `armed attack,' cynically and systemati-of step. We have achieved this entanglement, not tally mounted by the Hanoi regime against Tha moatt is their fetebueapostles and "one one more should be be after due and, deliberate. consideration, but the people of South Vietnam." that generals behave like generals. through a series of small decisions. It is Yet the best evidence is that the war be- The fault lies not with those who gi ethis not only Idle but unfair to seek out guilty gan as an insurrection within South Vietnam advice but those who take it. Once, early in men. President Eisenhower, after rejecting which, as it has gathered momentum, has the Kennedy Administration, the then American military intervention In 1954, set attracted increasing support and direction Chairman of the Joint Chiefs outlined the Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 ,-.NN? ., Yew , .,, , .,, _--_.,-.,., , , 22127 September 19, 1966 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -SENATE processes of escalation in Southeast Asia be- ground operations-has its place; but the munity; and so long as genuine programs fore the National Security council, conclud- notion that strategic bombing can stop guer- of social reform threaten the vested interests experience. of the And nt and ing, on , are given the right use nuclear hrillas runs ad it last winter,yono the authority of the holders. In anyucaseeas claimantsgonaour weapons, can guarantee victory." Sdent Kennedy sat glumly lumly rubbing an upper Secretary of State, that despite the entry of resources, these programs of pacification aof molar. After a moment someone said, "Mr. North Vietnamese regulars the war in South hopelessly outclassed by the programs President, perhaps you would have the gent Vietnam "continues to be basically a guer- dies ruction. Surely, de Unihaveted States, with eral explain to us what he means by victory." rilla operation" Kennedy grunted and dismissed the meeting. Sir Robert Thompson, who plafined the better way to combat guerrilla warfare than the the literation phy the Mal the which itsicIsatakl place. If this is our b st as head ofayan nation Later said, "Since o he couldn't think of any successful ands later see against further r escalation, he would have e to to promise guerrillas us victory." British advisory mission in Saigon, has em- idea of "protecting" a country against "wars What is the purpose of bombing the north? phsized that the defending force must of national liberation," what other country, the same element" as their ad- seeing the devastation we have wrought in It is hard to find out. According to Gen. operate ,that Maxwell Taylor, "The objective of our air versaries. Counterinsurgency, he writes, "is Vietnam, will wish American protection? campaign is to change the will of the ene- like trying to deal with a tomcat in an alley. At the same time, our concentration on my leadership." Secretary McNamara, on It is no good inserting a large, fierce dog. Vietnam is exacting a frightful cost in other the other hand, has said, "We never believed The dog may not find the tomcat; if he does, areas of national concern. In domestic pol- that bombing would destroy North Vietnam's the tomcat will escape up a tree; and the dog icy, with Vietnam gulping down a billion will." Whatever the theory, the results would will then chase the female cats. The answer and a half dollars a month, everything is is to put in a fiercer tomcat." grinding to a stop. Lyndon Johnson was on northern support Secretary McNamara. Hanoi a. The Alas, we have no fiercer tomcat. The his way to a place in history as a great Pres- to have have har- counterinsurgency effort in Vietnam has ident for his vision of a Great Society; but to table, seems see ems driving d a the conference table, uished, while our bombers roam over the Great Society is now, except for token to that hapless country, dumping more tonnage gestures, dead. The fight for equal oppor- it closer convincer It that its life the will at the regime, convinced th brought explosives each month than we were drop- tunity for the Negro, the war against poverty, China and solidified stake, China solidified the people of North Vi- etnam in its support. ping per month on all Europe and Africa the struggle to save the cities, the improve- "There is no indication," General West- during the Second World War. Just the ment of our schools-all must be starved for moreland said the other day, "that the re- other day our bombs killed or injured more the sake of Vietnam. And war brings ugly solve of the leadership in Hanoi has been re- than 100 civilians in a hamlet in the Mekong side-effects: inflation; frustration; angry duced." In other words, bombing has had Delta-all on the suspicion that two Viet- protest; attack on dissenters on the ground precisely the effect that the analyses of the cong platoons numbering perhaps 60 men, that they cheer the enemy (an attack often United States Strategic Bombing Survey aft- were there. Even If the Vietcong had still mounted by men who led the dissent dur- er the Second World War would have fore- been around, which they weren't, would the Ing the Korean war) ; premonitions of Mc- cast. Under Secretary of State George Ball military gain have outweighed the human Carthyism. was a director of that survey; this may well and political loss? Charles Mohr writes in We also pay a cost abroad. Our allies nat- be why he has been reported so unenthusi- The Times: "Almost every provincial hos- orally draw away as they see us heading antic about the air assault on the North. pital in Vietnam is crowded with civilian down the road toward war with China. When IAnd, far from stopping infiltration across victims of the war. Some American doctors we began to bomb the oil depots, James the 17th Parallel, bombing, if our own statis- and other officials in the field say the ma- Reston wrote: "There is now not a single tics are to be believed, has stimulated it. "It jority are the victims of American air power major nation in the world that supports Mr. and South Vietnamese artillery." Johnson's latest adventure in Hanoi and said, "that he No Sec n ese have on- The trouble is that we are fighting one Haiphong." As nations seek to disengage said, "that the North Vietetnamese have con- war, with our Br-52's and our naval guns and themselves from the impending conflict, the cong despite the increase theca our effort. of the Viet- our napalm, and the Vietcong are fighting quasi-neutralism of leaders like de Gaulle What hdeal happened is that . . another, with their machine guns and am- gains new plausibility. has have con is that the North Viet- bushes and forays in the dark. "If we can get On any realistic assessment, Western Eu- me lly increased the the Vietcong to stand up and fight, we will rope and Latin America are far more sig- amount of have continually they have resources, men and devote that him," General Westmoreland has plain- nificant to American security than South they have been willing to devote to the it r tively said; and when they occasionally rise Asia; yet the Vietnam obsession has stul- obje r ca:' to the surface and try to fight our kind of tified our policy and weakened our position Ne arg we easily majoc this infiltration war, we do blast them. But the fact that in both these vital areas. The war has fo enlarging our own or 750,000. 3e ratio they then slide back into the shadows does clouded the hope, once mildly promising, of Pentagon In not mean that we are on the verge of some progress toward a detente with the Soviet for example, yo preferred by th or by the . The of superiority war is iority Is 10 0 to 1 means that final military triumph. It means simply Union. It has helped block agreements to eeryitie we in , which more men the e that we are driving them underground- end underground nuclear testing and to stop every time n send a 10 in 10,000 Orhd where they renew themselves and where our the spread of nuclear weapons. It has pre- enemy has only to send in Reinforcement or so, and large, fierce dog cannot follow. cipitated the decision of U Thant to resign no are all even again. American Supt hr- Saigon officials have been reporting that as Secretary General of the United Nations not all it h a done is to lift the stalemate superior- t- Vietcong morale is declining as long as I can and condemns the U.N. Itself to a time of ity; a higher had mot is p el. Indeed, remember; these reports need not be taken declining influence. there higher and mare exlosivt level. Indeed, Our rejectelon of the views of our friends mis reason the to suppose that, in its own seriously now. I know of lack the p convincing ecilolitical and allies--our conviction, as Paul H. Smith of manner, the escalation up to enemy ca the n m point atch of our nuclear war war.r. and and a emotional the commitmVietcongent t commitment to o the keep p fighting has put it, "that we alone are qualified to judge, jury and executioner"-ignores U.S. News & World Report says in its issue underground for another 20 years. be Madison solemn warning in the 63rd Fed- bombing 22: "It's clear now to military men: Our strategy in Vietnam is rather like try- adiso 's solemn to the judgment "- bombing will not win in Vietnam." This is ing to weed a garden with a bulldozer. We er: a dispiriting item. Why had our military occasionally dig up some weeds, but we dig other nations is important to every govern- leaders not long ago freed themselves from up most of the turf, too. The effect of our ment for two reasons: the one is that inde- the illusion of the omnipotence of air power, policy is to pulverize the political and instil pendently of the merits of any particular so cherished by civilians who think wars can tutional fabric which alone can give a South plan or measure, it is desirable, on various be won on the cheap? The Korean war, as Vietnamese state that hope of independent accounts, that it should appear to other Gen. Matthew B. Ridgway has said, "taught survival which is our presumed war aim. nations as the offspring of a wise and honor- that it is impossible to interdict the supply Our method, in other words, defeats our able policy; the second is that in doubtful route of an Asian army by airpower alone, goal. Indeed, the most likely beneficiary of cases, particularly where the national coun- We had complete air mastery over North the smashed social structure of South Viet- oils may be warped by some strong passion Korea, and we clobbered Chinese supply nam will be Communism. "My feeling," or momentary interest, the presumed or columns unmercifully.... But we did not Gen. Wallace Greene, commandant of the known opinion of the impartial world may halt their offensive nor materially diminish Marine Corps, has wisely said, "is that you be the best guide that can be followed. its strength." If air power was not decisive could kill every Vietcong and North Viet- What has not America lost by her want of in Korea, where the warfare was conven- namese in South Vietnam and still lose the character with foreign nations; and how tional and the terrain relatively open and war. Unless we can make a success of the many errors and follies would she not have compact, how could anyone suppose that it civic-action program, we are not going to avoided, if the justice and propriety of her measures had, in every instance, been pre- would be decisive against guerrillas thread- obtain the objectives we have set." vo l tried the light in which they pree are would ing their way through the hills and jungles presenuch t devotion and into the progragmscof recon- probably appear to the unbiased part of man- of Vietnam? kind." The bombing .Illusion applies, of course, to atruction, but prospects are precarious so the South g well g In Vietnam. Tactical ofnSouas the enemy th Vietnam ewithslice apparent Im- ofT its AV ettnamatpoo li has called olat onists " s suchthrough bombing=bombing In direct support No. 158-23 Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : -CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 22128 Approved For Release 2005/06/29: CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD,-SENATE September 19. 19et nuo ~ureiy the real neoisolationists are those who have isolated the United States from its allies and raised the tattered standard, last flourished 15 years ago by Douglas MacArthur, of "going it alone." How have we managed to imprison our- selves in this series of dilemmas? One reason surely is that we have somehow lost our understanding of the uses of power. Understanding of power implies above all precision in its application. We have moved away from the subtle strategy of "flexible response" under which the level of American force was graduated to meet the level of enemy threat. The triumph of this dis- criminate employment of power was, of course, the Cuban missile crisis (where the Joint Chiefs, as usual, urged an air assault on the missile bases). But President John- son, for all his formidable abilities, has shown no knack for discrimination in his use of power. His technique is to try and over- whelm his adversary-as in the Dominican. Republic and Vietnam-by piling on all forms of power without regard to the nature of the threat. Given this weakness for the indiscriminate use of power, it is easy to see why the appli- cation of force In Vietnam has been sur- rendered to the workings of what an acute observer of the Johnson foreign policy, Philip Geyelin, calls "the escalation machine." This machine is, in effect, the momentum in the decision-making system which keeps enlarging the war "for reasons only mar- ginally related to military need." The very size and weight of the American military presence generate unceasing pres- sures to satisfy military demands. These may be demands to try out new weapons; the London Sunday Telegraph recently ran an informative article comparing the Viet- nam war to the Spanish Civil War as a mili- tary testing ground and laboratory. Or they may be cries for "one more step," springing in part from suppressed rage over the fact that, with military power sufficient to blow up the word, we still cannot compel guerrilla bands in black pajamas to submit to our will. Whatever the reason, Sir Robert Thompson has noted of the American theory of the war: "There was a constant tendency in Vietnam to mount large-scale operations, which had little purpose or prospect of success, merely to indicate that' something aggressive was being done." The administration has freely admitted that such operations, like the bombing of the North, are designed in part to prop up the morale of the Saigon Government. And the Impression is growing now that they are also in part undertaken in order to smother doubts about the war In the United States and to reverse anti-Administration tenden- cies in the polls. Americans have become curiously insensitive to the use of military operations for domestic political purposes. A quarter-century ago President Roosevelt postponed the North African invasion so that it would not take place before the midterm. elections of 1942; but today observers in nam had increased 52,000 since Jan. 1 to a Khrushchev at Vienna in 1961, Laos was just total of-282,000. Yet, "according to official not important enough to entangle two great figures," the enemy had suffered 31,571 killed nations. President Johnson, on the other in action In this period, and the infiltration hand, has systematically inflated the signifi- estimate ranged from 35,000 as "definite" to cance of the war in Vietnam. "We have 54,000 as "possible." tried to make It clear over and over again," The only way to reconcile these figures Is as the Secretary of State has put it, "that to conclude that the Vietcong have picked although Hanoi is the prime actor in this up from 30,000 to 50,000 local recruits In this situation, that it is the policy of Peking that period. Since this seems unlikely-especially has greatly stimulated Hanoi. . It is Ho in view of our confidence in the decline of Chi Minh's war. Maybe it is Mao Tse-tung's Vietcong morale-a safer guess is to question war." the wonderful precision of the statistics. "In the forties and fifties," President John- Even the rather vital problem of how many son has said, "we took our stand in Europe to North Vietnamese troops are in South Viet- protect the freedom of those threatened by na.m is swathed in mystery. The Times re- aggression. Now the center of attention has ported on Aug. 7: "About 40,000 North Viet- shifted to another part of the world where namese troops are believed by allied intelli- aggression is on the march. Our stand must gence to be in the South." According to an be as firm as ever." Given this view, it is Associated Press dispatch from Saigon presumably necessary to pay the greatest printed In The Christian Science Monitor costs and run the greatest risks-or else in- of Aug. 15: "The South Vietnamese Govern- vite the greatest defeat. ment says 102,500 North Vietnamese combat Given this view, too, there is no reason troops and support battalions have infiltrated not to Americanize the war. President Ken- into South Vietnam. nedy did not believe that the war in Viet- "These figures are far in excess of United nam could succeed as a war of white men States intelligence estimates, which put the against Asians. It could not be won, he maximum number of North Vietnamese in said a few weeks before his death, "unless the South at about 54,000." the people [of South Vietnam I support the But General Westmoreland told his Texas effort.... We can help them, we can give press conference on Aug. 14 that the enemy them equipment, we can send our men out force included "about 110,000 main-force there as advisers, but they have to win it, North Vietnamese regular army troops." Per- the people of Vietnam." We have now haps these statements are all reconcilable, junked this doctrine. Instead, we have en- but an apparent discrepancy of this magni- larged our military presence until it is the tude on a question of such importance raise only thing that matters in South Vietnam, a twinge of doubt. and we plan now to k ma it Nor is our ignorance confined to battle- order statistics. We have always lacked genuine knowledge of and insight into the political and cultural problems of Vietnam, and the more we press all problems Into a military framework the worse off we are. The Administration in Washington was sys- tematically misinformed by senior American officials in Saigon in 1962-63 regarding the progress of the war, the popularity of Diem, the effectiveness of the "strategic hamlet" program and other vital matters. It was not that these officials were deliberately deceiv- ing their President; it was that they had de- ceived themselves first. Ordinary citizens re- stricted to reading the American press were better informed in 1963 than officials who took top-secret cables seriously. The fact is that our Government just doesn't know a lot of things it pretends to know. It is not discreditable that it should not know them, for the facts are elusive and the judgments incredibly difficult.. But it is surely inexcusable that it should pretend to know things it does not-and that it should or the three, they must therefore be the pass its own ignorance on to the American spearhead of a coordinated Chinese plan of people as certitude. And it is even less ex- expansion. The Department of State, in cusable that it should commit the nation to spite of what has struck most people as a policy involving the greatest dangers on a rather evident fragmentation of the Cc mmi foundation so vague and precarious. nist world, has hated to abandon tlj~js cozy So now we are set on the course of widen- old cliches about a centralized Con*nuriist ing the war-even at the cost of multiplying conspiracy aimed at monolithic world revo- American casualties in Vietnam and deepen- lution. ing American troubles at home and abroad; As late as May 9, 1965, after half a dozen even at the risk of mirin g our nation in a years of pbli R ucusso-Chinese quarreling, diet a new venture in escalation before the hopeless and endless conflict on the main- Thomas C. Mann, then No. 3 man in the de- midterm elections of 1966. land of Asia beyond the effective employ- partment, could talk about "instruments of The triumph of the escalation machine ment of our national power and beyond the Sino-Soviet power" and "orders from the has been assisted by the faultiness of the in- range of our primary interests; even at the Sino-Soviet military bloc." As late as Jan. formation on which our decisions are based. risk of nuclear war. 28, 1966, the Secretary of State could still Nothing is phonier than the spurious exacti- Why does the Administration feel that run on about "their world revolution," and tude of our statistics about the Vietnam war, these costs must be paid and these risks run? again, on Feb. 18, about "the Communists" No doubt a computerized military establish- Hovering behind our policy is a larger idea- and their "larger design." While the depart- ment demands numbers; but the "body the idea that the war in Vietnam is not just ment may have accepted the reality of the count" of dead Vietcong, for example, in- a local conflict between Vietnamese but a Russo-Chinese schism by September, 1966, eludes heaven knows how many innocent by- fateful test of wills between China and the the predominant tone is still to regard Asian standers and could hardly be more unreli- United States. Communism as a homogeneous system of able. The figures on enemy strength are Our political and rhetorical escalation of aggression. The premise of our policy has totally baffling, at least to the ordinary citi- the war has been almost as perilous as our been that the Vietcong equal Hanoi. and zen relying on the daily newspaper. The military escalation. President Kennedy's ef- Hanoi equals Peking. Times on Aug. 10 described "the latest in- fort was to pull Laos out of the context of Obviously, the Vietcong, Hanoi and Peking teuigence reports" in Saigon as saying that great-power conflict and reduce the Laotian have interests in common and strong idea- the number of enemy troops In South Viet- civil war to rational proportions. As he told logical affinities. Obviously, Peking would a still larger; we have summoned the Saigon leaders, like trib- al chieftians on a retainer, to a conference in an American state; we crowd the streets of Saigon with American generals (58 at last count) and visiting stateside dignitaries. In short, we have seized every opportunity to make clear to the world that this is an American war-and, in doing this, we have 'surely gone far to make the war unwinnable. The proposition that our real enemy in Vietnam is China is basic to the policy of widening the war. It is the vital element in the Administration case. Yet the proof our leaders have adduced for this proposition has been exceedingly sketchy and almost per- functory. It has been proof by ideology and proof by analogy. It has not been proof by reasoned argument or by concrete illustra- tion. The proof by ideology has relied on the syl- logism that the Vietcong, North Vietnam and China are all Communist states and there- fore must be part of the same conspiracy, Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 September 19, 1966 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE 22129 rejoice in a Hanoi-Vietcong victory. But they also have divergent interests and pur- poses-and the divergencies may prove in the end to be stronger than the affinities. Recent developments in North Korea are in- structive. If any country was bound to Pe- king ties of gratitude, it was North Korea, which was preserved as an independent state by Chinese intervention 15 years ago. If any country today is at the mercy of Peking, it is again North Korea. When North Korea now declares in vigorous language its inde- pendence of China, does anyone suppose that North Vietnam, imbued with historic mis- trust of China and led by that veteran Rus- sian agent He Chi Minh, would have been more slavish in its attitude toward Peking? The other part of the Administration case has been proof by analogy, especially the good old Munich analogy. "I'm not the village idiot," the Secretary of State recently confided to Stewart Alsop. "I know Hitler was an Austrian and Mao is a Chinese. .. . But what is common between the two situa- tions is the phenomenon of aggression." The Vietnam war, President Johnson recently told the American Legion, "is meant to be the opening salvo in a series of bombard- ments or, as they are called in Peking, 'wars of liberation.' If this technique works this week in Vietnam, the Administration sug- gests, it will be tried next week in Uganda and Peru. But, if it is defeated in Vietnam, the Chinese will known that we will not let it succeed elsewhere. "What happens in South Vietnam," the President cried at Omaha, "will determine- yes, it will determine-whether ambitious and aggressive nations can use guerrilla war- fare to conquer their weaker neighbors." The Secretary of State even discribed an ex- hortation ? made last year by the Chinese Defense Minister, Marshal Lin Piao, as a blueprint for world conquest comparable to Hitler's "Mein Kampf." One thing is sure about the Vietnam riddle: it will not be solved by bad historical analogies. It seems a trifle forced, for ex- ample, to equate a civil war in what was for hundreds of years the entity of Vietnam (Marshal Ky, after all, is a North Vietnamese himself) with Hitler's Invasion of Austria and Czechoslovakia across old and well- established line of national division; even the village idiot might grasp the difference. When President Eisenhower invoked the Munich analogy in 1954 in an effort to in- volve the British in Indochina, Prime Min- ister Churchill, a pretty close student of Munich in his day, was unmoved. The Chinese have neither the overwhelmingly military power nor the timetable of aggres- sion nor, apparently, the pent-up mania for instant expansion which would justify the Hitler parallel. As for the Lin Piao docu- ment, the Rand Corporation, which evidently read it with more care than the State De- partment bothered to do, concluded that, far from being Mao's "Mein Kampf," it was a message to the Vietcong that they could win "only if they rely primarily on their own resources and their own revolutionary spirit," and that it revealed "the lack, rather than the extent, of Peking's past and present control over Hanoi's actions." In. any case, guerrilla warfare is not a tac- tic to be mechanically applied by central headquarters to faraway countries. More than any other form of warfare, it is depend- ent on conditions and opportunities within the countries themselves. Whether there are wars of national liberation in Uganda and Peru will depend, not on what happens in Vietnam, but on what happens in Uganda and Peru. One can agree that the containment of China will be major problem for the next generation. But this does not mean that we must re-enact in Asia in the sixties the exact drama of Europe in the forties and fifties. The record thus far suggests that the force most likely to contain Chinese expansionism in Asia (and Africa, too) will be not Western intervention but local nationalism. Some- times local nationalism may call on Western support-but not always. Countries like Burma and Cambodia preserve their auton- omy without American assistance. The Africans have dealt with the Chinese on their own. The two heaviest blows recently suffered by Peking-the destruction of the Communist party in Indonesia and the dec- laration of independence by North Korea- took place without benefit of American pa- tronage or rhetoric. In the unpredictable decades ahead, the most effective bulwark against "interna- tional" Communism in some circumstances may well be national Communism. A ration- al policy of containing China could have rec- ognized that a Communist Vietnam under He might be a better instrument of contain- ment than a shaky Saigon regime led by right-wing mandarins or air force generals. Had Ho taken over all Vietnam in 1954, he might today be enlisting Soviet support to strengthen his resistance to Chinese pres- sure-and this situation, however appalling for the people of South Vietnam, would ob- viously be better for the United States than the one in which we are floundering today. And now, alas, it may be almost too late: the whole thrust of United States policy since 1954,'and more than ever since the bombing of the North began, has been net to pry Peking and Hanoi apart but to drive them together. Is there no way out? Are the only alter- natives widening the war or disorderly and humiliating withdrawal? Surely, our states- manship is not yet this bankrupt. I think a middle course is still possible if there were the will to pursue it. And this course must begin with a decision to stop widening and Americanizing the war-to limit our forces, actions, goals and rhetoric. Instead of bombing more places, sending in more troops, proclaiming ever more ardently that the fate of civilization will be settled in Vietnam, let us recover our cool and try to see the situation as it is: a horrid civil war in which Communist guerrillas, enthu- siastically aided and now substantially di- rected from Hanoi, are trying to establish a Communist despotism in South Vietnam, not for the Chinese but for themselves. Let us understand that the ultimate problem here is not military but political. Let us adapt the means we employ to the end we seek. Obviously, military action plays an indis- pensable role in the search for a political solution, Hanoi and the Vietcong will not negotiate so long as they think they can win. Since stalemate is a self-evident precondi- tion to negotiation, we must have enough American armed force in South Vietnam to leave no doubt in the minds of our adversar- ies that they cannot hope for victory. They must also have no illusion about the pros- pect of an American withdrawal. The ob- ject of the serious opposition to the Johnson policy is to bring about not an American de- feat but a negotiated settlement. Therefore, holding the line in South Viet- nam is essential. Surely, we already have enough American troops, firepower and in- stallations in South Vietnam to make it clear that we cannot be beaten unless we choose to scuttle and run, which will not happen. The opponents of this strategy talk as if a holding action would put our forces under siege and relinquish all initiative to the enemy. This need not, of course, be so. It is possible to slow down a war without standing still; and, if our present generals can't figure out how to do this, then let us get generals who can. Generals Ridgway and Gavin could doubtless suggest some names. Moreover, there is a South Vietnamese army of some 600,000 men which can take all the initiative it wants. And if we are told that the South Vietnamese are unwilling or un- able to fight the Vietcong, then we must wonder all the more about the political side of the war. The object of our military policy, as ob- servers like Henry Kissinger and James Mac- Gregor Burns have proposed, should be the creation and stabilization of secure areas where the South Vietnamese might them- selves undertake social and institutional de- velopment. Our resources should go, in the Vietnam jargon, more to clear-and-hold than to search-and-destroy (especially when search-and-destroy more often means search- and-drive-underground). We should get rid of those "one-star generals who," in the words of Sir Robert Thompson, "regard their tour in Vietnam as an opportunity to in- dulge in a year's big-game shooting from their helicopter howdahs at Government ex- pense." At the same time we should induce the Saigon Government to institute generous amnesty provisions of the kind which worked so well in the Philippines. And we should further increase the incentive to come over by persuading the South Vietnamese to abandon the torture of prisoners-a practice not only horrible in itself but superbly cal- culated to make the enemy fight to the bit- ter end. In the meantime we must end our own shameful collaboration with this bar- barism and stop turning Vietcong prisoners over to the South Vietnamese when we know that torture is probable. As for bombing the North, let us taper this off as prudently as we can. Bombing is not likely to deter Hanoi any more in the future than it has in the past; and, given its limited military effect, the Administration's desire to gratify the Saigon Government and the American voter is surely not important enough to justify the risks of indefinite es- calation. Moreover, so long as the bombing continues there is no chance of serious ne- gotiation. Nor does the failure of the 37-day pause of last winter to produce a settlement refute this. Thirty-seven days were hardly enough to persuade our allies that we hon- estly wanted negotiation; so brief an inter- lude left no time for them to move on to the tricky job of persuading Hanoi. For Hanoi has substantial reasons for mistrusting nego- tiation-quito apart from Chinese pressure or its own hopes of victory. He has entered into negotiation with the West twice in the past-in 1946-47 and again in 1954-and each time, in his view, he lost at the confer- ence table things he thought he had won on the battlefield. For all our official talk about our readiness to go anywhere, talk to anyone, etc., it cannot be said that the Administration has pursued. negotiation with a fraction of the zeal, imag- ination and perseverance with which it has pursued war. Indeed, some American schol- ars who have studied the matter believe that on a number of occasions when pressure for negotiation was mounting we have, for what- ever reason, stepped up the war. Nor can it be said that the Administra- tion has laid fairly before the American people the occasional signals, however faint, which have come from Hanoi,-as in the early winter of 1965, when U Thant's medi- ation reached the point of selecting the hotel in Rangoon where the talks might take place, until we killed the idea by beginning the bombing of the North. Nor, for all our declarations about "unconditional" negotia- tions, have we refrained from setting con- ditions-such as, for example, that we won't talk to the Vietcong unless they come to the conference table disguised as North Vietnamese. Though the Vietcong con- stitute the great bulk of the enemy force, they have been given little reason to think we will negotiate about anything except their unconditional surrender. Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 22130 Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE September 19, 1966 It is hard to see why we should not fol- low the precedent of Laos, when we ad- rotted the Pathet Lao to the peace talks, and offer the Vietcong the prospect of a say in the future political life of South Vietnam-conditioned on their laying down their arms, opening up their territories and abiding by the ground rules of free elec- tions. Nor is there reason to see why we have been so reluctant again to follow the Laos model and declare neutralization, under in- ternational guarantee, our long-run objective for Vietnam. An imaginative diplomacy would long since have discussed the ways and means of such neutralization with Rus- sis, France, Britain and other interested countries. Unsatisfactory as the situation in Laos may be today, it is still incom- parably better than the situation in South Vietnam. On the other hand, negotiation is not an exclusive, or even primary, American re- sponsibility. Along with a military stale- mate, the other precondition of a diplo- matic settlement is surely a civilian gov- ernment in Saigon. Marshal Ky is one of those Frankenstein's monsters we delight in creating in our "client" countries, very much like the egregious General Phoumi Nosavan, who single-handedly blocked a settlement in Laos for two years. Like Phouml, Ky evidently feels t4at Washing- ton has committed itself irrevocably to him-and why should he not after the laying on of hands at Honolulu?-and that, what- ever he does, we cannot afford to abandon him. Robert Shaplen, in the August 20 issue of The New Yorker, reported from Saigon that the atmosphere there "is being com- pared to the miasma that surrounded Diem and his tyrannical brother Ngo Dinh Nhu" and that "many Vietnamese believe that the Americans, having embraced Ky so whole- heartedly and supported him so long, are just as responsible as his Government for the recent repressive acts." I am sure that President Johnson did not intend to turn over American policy and honor in Vietnam to Marshal Ky's gimcrack, bullyboy, get-rich-quick regime. The time is bound to come when Ky must learn the facts of life, as General Phoumi eventually and painfully learned them. But why wait? In our whole time in Viet- tam, there has never been a Government in Saigon which had the active loyalty of the countryside. It might be an agreeable ex- periment to encourage one to come into ex- istence. Instead of Identifying American interests with Ky and rebuffing the broader political impulses in South Vietnam, we should long since have welcomed a move- ment toward a civilian regime representing the significant political forces of the coun- try and capable both of rallying the army and carrying forward programs of social re- form. We should give such a Government all possible assistance in rebuilding and modernizing the political and institutional structures of South Vietnam. And if it should favor the neutralization of its coun- try, if it should seek negotiation with the Vietcong, even if it should release us from our commitment to stay in Vietnam, we should not think that the world is coming to an end. It is not too late to begin the de-escalation of the war; nor would the reduction of our military effort damage our international in- fluence. "There is more respect to be won in the opinion of this world," George Ken- nan has written, "by a resolute and courage- ous liquidation of unsound positions than by the most stubborn pursuit of extravagant or unpromising objectives." France was stronger than ever after de Gaulle left Al- geria, the Soviet Union suffered no lasting damage from pulling it nuclear missiles out of Cuba. And the policy of de-escalation recommended here it, of course, something a good deal less than withdrawal. De-escalation could work, if there were the will to pursue it ... This is the hard question. The Administration, disposed to the indiscriminate use of power, enmeshed in the grinding cogs of the escalation ma- chine, committed to the thesis that China is the enemy in Vietnam, obviously could not turn to de-escalation without considerable inner upheaval. The issue in the United States in the months to come will be whether President Johnson's leadership is sufficiently resilient and forbearing to permit a change in the direction of policy and arrest what is coming increasingly to seem an accelerat- ing drift toward a great and unnecessary catastrophe. ]From the New York (N.Y) Times, Sept. 19, 1966] SAIGON To REFORM RURAL EFFORTS; MARINES BREAK TRAP AT DONGH-PACIFICATION As- f>ESSED (By Charles Mohr) SAIGON, SOUTH VIETNAM, September 18.- South Vietnamese officials have concluded that there have been serious deficiencies in the rural pacification program this year and that reforms are needed in 196'7, highly reli- able sources disclosed today. Top South Vietnamese officials have made varying assessments of the pacification or "revolutionary development" work done so far in 1966. The most optimistic was that performance was "not quite satisfactory," the bluntest that progress was "quite limited" and that "not much was achieved." In general, the South Vietnamese analyses were more critical and pessimistic than those by United States officials. The Vietnamese studies were not meant for publication but for policy planning. Veteran observers in Vietnam found the South Vietnamese official pessimism a cause for optimism. Their reasoning was that shortcomings can he overcome only when they are honestly acknowledged,. TEAMS IMPLEMENT PROGRAM Under the rural pacification program, trained teams of workers move into selected rural areas and attempt to bring them firmly under Government control by rooting out the Vietcong apparatus and improving life in the area, as well as through political propaganda. Although there is a temptation to try, it is impossible to measure the program's progress statistically. The evaluation by the Vietna- mese officials shows why. They concluded, the reliable sources said, that more progress had been made this year than ever before. But in many areas the following faults were discovered: Pacification planning at the start of the year by provincial officials was "unrealistic." Some teams were shifted from difficult and hostile areas to easy ones to make "better performance scores." Statistics were unreliable because pacifica- tion operations were in some cases "carried out over again many times at the same number of hamlets" that had once been officially declared as pacified. Physical security was not as good as expected and Vietcong underground agents continued in some cases to collect taxes and carry out propaganda activities: The quality of pacification workers or "cadres," as they are called, was below ex- pectations. Recruiting met requirements "in quantity but not in quality.." In some cases, team members were "not very enthusiatic toward their work" or to- ward the people's aspirations. The teams generally stayed in their assigned areas for too short a time and in some cases left and declared them pacified before such judg- ment was realistic. NUMERICAL REPORT CITED Those conclusions cast some doubt on the assertion made in a Washington report this week by Robert W. Komer, a special Presidential assistant assigned to the paci- fication program, that in the first six months of the year 531 hamlets containing 680,000 people had been brought into the pacifica- tion program. The South Vietnamese Government, in planning for 1967, is stressing genuine pacification of hamlets now only "statisti- cally" pacified. This year each of the 59-nian rural paci- fication teams was supposed to spend a minimum of two to three months, in paci- fying a hamlet. But in practice, that often was the maximum. Under a new "rhythm" of pacification planned for 1967, each team is expected to work on no more than two or three hamlets in a year and may spend an entire year in one difficult hamlet. Each team will be required to leave be- hind a small number of men to maintain stability. Thus, by 1968 each team will continue to support about two hamlets while undertaking the pacification of two more. Emphasis will be on well-populated ham- lets, on those especially susceptible to eco- nomic and agricultural development and those with strategic positions and reason- ably good military security. The new guidelines may lead to more solid achievements but will undoubtedly slow down-at least on paper-the already slow process of pacifying all of South Vietnam's 15,000 hamlets. Few tasks in public administration any- where in the world are so complex and difficult as those assigned to the 59-man pacification teams in Vietnam. And, in some cases, they have received poor sup- port from other units and agencies. The South Vietnamese army, is said to resent the teams as "unmilitary" and has sometimes withdrawn troops without warn- ing, leaving teams exposed to attack by the Vietcong. Teams were sometimes expro- priated by provincial officials who used them as regular troops or in guard assignments, leaving their hamlets unshielded. EXCERPTS FROM "INTRODUCTION TO THE AN- NUAL REPORT" (By Secretary General U Thant of the United Nations, Sept. 15, 1966) X. CONCLUDING OBSERVATIONS This review of the most important devel- opments within the United Nations during the last twelve months has the usual con- trasts of light and shadow. The continued slow rate of progress in many of our fields of endeavor, and the setbacks which have been suffered in others, can only be a cause of disappointment to the peoples of the world in whose name the Charter of the United Nations was written. For this, however, they must not blame the Charter itself nor the institutions which it created. The weaknesses and shortcomings of the United Nations lie not in its constitutional purposes, objectives and procedures but in world conditions at the present juncture of history. The proceedings of the Organiza- tion inevitably mirror the state of the rela- tionships between different peoples and dif- ferent nations and sometimes between the rulers and the ruled; the economic circum- stances under which they live; the social conditions that surround them. It is in these realms, and not in the structure(s) of the United Nations, that the roots of the troubles of the world lie. The troubles arising from present condi- tions are abundant. They are the preva- lence of narrow nationalisms, the periodic reliance on crude power-whether political, Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 September 19, 1966 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE military . or economic--to serve or protect supposed national interests, the appalling rise in the quantity and destructive potential of nuclear armaments, the ever more serious gaps in economic development, the persist- ence of colonial domination over several million people, the continuing prevalence in many parts of the world of racial discrimi- nation and suppression of human rights, and, among populations constantly increasing, the widespread inadequacies of education, food shortages verging on famine, and lack of medical care. These excesses, inequities and injustices-and the fears, tensions, frus- trations, jealousies and aggressions which they breed among peoples and among na- tions-still too_ largely condition the state of the world, still too strongly and adversely influence the national policies which Member States bring to bear on the work of the United Nations, and still too seriously ob- struct rather than challenge the capacity of the Organization to fulfill its purposes. in the present difficult state of interna- tional affairs, I believe it to be the first duty of the membership to face up to the fact that the chances of fruitful international co-operation on many crucial issues in which the United Nations has a clear responsibil- ity for decision and action-issues ranging from disarmament to development-have been steadily and seriously impaired over the past two years by a situation over which, for well-known reasons, the United Nations has not been able to exercise any effective deepening crisis over Viet-Nam, where the The situation in Latin America also gives dangerous escalation of armed force has been cause for some concern. Notwithstanding accompanied, in my view, by an increasing the several factors which should enable Latin intransigence and distrust among Govern- America to move forward in its economic ments and peoples. and social development, the area as a whole For my own part, I have tried by best to is finding it very hard to consolidate satis- help in the efforts which have been made to factory growth rates. Many of the difficulties reduce the escalation of the conflict in Viet- encountered are home-made and must be Nam and to move to the conference table the eliminated by the Latin American countries quest for a solution of the problem. In themselves, while others stem from Latin doing so, I have been increasingly distressed America's economic relations with the rest to observe that discussions of the matter of the world and their solution must be have by and large been dominated by con- sought in an effective and continuous policy sideration and analysis of the power politics of international understanding and co-opera- involved, and that there has been much less tion. concern for the tremendous human suffering At the same time, I must make clear my which the conflict has entailed for the peo- belief that, while we face up to the existence ple of Viet-Nam and also for the people of of national and even international situations other countries involved in the fighting. My which are beyond the control of the United heart goes out to them. The Viet-Namese Nations and recognize the harmful effects people, in particular, have known no peace which they may have on the progress of for a quarter of a century. Their present international co-operation within its sphere plight should be the first, and not the last, of activity, the United Nations should be consideration of all concerned. Indeed, I enabled to act more effectively and decisively remain convinced that the basic problem in than it has done so far on many of the Viet-Nam is not one of ideology but one of matters before it. We cannot wait for the national identity and survival. I see noth- world to right itself-for the great Powers, lag but danger in the idea, so assidlously in particular, to adjust their differences- fostered outside Viet-Nam, that the conflict before applying greater determination and, is a kind of holy war between two powerful if necessary, a larger sacrifice of time- political ideologies. honoured attitudes to the solution of urgent The survival of the people of Viet-Nam problems. must be seen as the real issue, and it can It has, of course, been partly because of be resolved not by force but by patience the deterioration in the international situ- and understanding, in the framework of a ation that it has not been possible to make willingness to live and let live. If this ap- greater progress in regard to such 'basic is- proach can be accepted on all sides-and sues as disarmament. The world disarama- the moral influence of Governments and ment conference still remains a somewhat peoples outside the immediate conflict can distant goal. The problem of non-prolifera- help to bring this about-I believe it should tion of nuclear weapons has gained added be possible to reach a settlement which urgency and there is a greatly increased need would end the suffering in Viet-Nam, satisfy for early action on account of the terrible the conscience of the world at large and re- prospect of more countries joining the "nu- move a formidable barrier to international clear club". It is also, in my view, both co-operation. necessary and feasible to agree upon a ban Although Viet-Nam represents the most of all nuclear tests. I hope that the discus- serious manifestation of the unsatisfactory sions at the forthcoming session of the Gen- state of international affairs, it is not the eral Assembly will demonstrate, above all only point of open danger. The situation to the nuclear Powers themselves, how essen- in the Middle East has shown no improve- tial it is to make speedy progress in regard meat, and dangerous tensions persist. I sin- to these matters. cerely trust that the hopes newly raised for Moreover, the international situations to a settlement in Yemen will be fulfilled. I which I have referred, the rise of tensions and also hope that the involvement of the United the emergence of new dangers in so many Nations in the difficult question of Aden may help to bring about a peaceful solution there. Beyond these questions lies the long- standing conflict between Israel and the Arab States and the continuing need for passions to be restrained and the terms of the armistice agreements to be observed by all concerned. I shall not conceal my distress at some of the happenings in Africa during the last twelve months-not only those which have hardened the colonial and quasi-colonial at- titudes still entrenched in large parts of the continent, but also those involving sudden and violent political changes in newly inde- pendent States. They have created a sense of instability whch can easily be misrep- resented or exaggerated to the disadvantage of Africa as a whole and, by causing an in- crease in tensions among African countries, they have produced a setback to African unity. By no means all of the many prob- lems that the African peoples are facing are of their own making, but few, if any, of them can be solved except by the African coun- tries themselves showing the qualities of maturity and restraint which they have often displayed, and using these qualities to en- danger the greater spirit of co-operation and willingness to work together, which is essen- tial to the fulfilment of Africa's destiny. This task is so important that Governments and peoples must put above everything else a willingness to sink their differences in the higher interests of Africa and of the world 22131 parts of the world, point to the need for a stronger rather than a weaker United Na- tions, and one which can be relied upon to undertake peace-keeping operations wherever such action could help in the restoration of stable conditions. Unfortunately, although there seems to be a measure of agreement that these operations have been effective in the past and could prove useful in the future, we are still far from agreement on basic prin- ciples. I very much hope that, in the months to come, the general membership and in par- ticular those Members who have a special responsibility with regard to the maintenance of international peace and security, may find it possible, within the Charter, to agree upon the procedures to be followed in launching such operations, the responsibility of the various organs in their actual conduct, and the financial arrangements by which the ex- penditures involved may be met. I must draw attention, to the fact that the peace- keeping activities of the United Nations, per- haps more than any other part of its work, have enabled the Organization to gain a measure of public confidence which is in danger of being lost if the Member States re- main deadlocked on the constitutional and financial questions involved. I should like to add, in this connexion, that I believe that regional organizations will have an important role to play in future in reducing tensions within their regions and in promoting co-operative efforts to attain common ends. The work of the United Na- tions at the regional level in the economic and social fields has won universal acclaim; the original economic commissions have be- come increasingly effective in helping the developing countries not merely through re- search and studies but also by direct opera- tional activities including those which have led to the establishment of economic and social planning institutes and development banks. The work of inter-governmental're- gional bodies outside the United Nations can also, I am sure, contribute to the solution of problems between countries within a region. However, there are certain questions of juris- diction and competence which arise with re- gard to the maintenance of international peace and security, especially in the peace- keeping field, and concerning which the role of the regional organizations requires clearer definition. Some time ago, I suggested that a. study of the functioning of regional orga- nizations in terms of their respective char- ters might be useful, and I mention it again in the belief that Governments should wish to follow it up. It is as important for a stronger United Nations to continue the long-term task of building the peace as it is to equip itself for helping countries to keep the peace. It is not enough, in my opinion, for the United Nations to deal where it can, and as the case arises, with each specific problem that threatens world peace. The causes of ten- sion in the world have to be attacked at all of their many roots. We have the means of doing so, and we have made a start. While for example, the international activities in the fields of economic and social develop- ment and human rights do not figure in the headlines, the fact is that the greater part of the resources of the United Nations and its family of agencies is devoted to these tasks. The manner in which they are un- dertaken has a direct relationship to the re- duction of tensions. I have said many times that it is essential that the gulf between the rich and the poor countries should be nar- rowed: I attach the greatest importance to the Governments of Member States taking seriously the goals of the United Nations De- velopment Decade, and making deliberate progress towards the achievement of these goals. There are other causes of tension which cannot be left to resolve themselves. In par- Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 22132 Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE September 19, 1966 ticular, I feel that the United Nations must make a sustained attack on the problems which we might, because of their origin or their nature, describe as the problems of Colonialism. While recognizing that sub- stantial progress has been made, we cannot afford to forget that the process of decoloni- zation has not been completed.. A hard core of actual colonialism still exists, particularly in Africa. It is coupled with the kindred problem of racial discrimination, and this evil in turn subjects the majority of the population of one of the largest independent States in Africa to conditions akin to the wdrst type of colonial subjection. I believe that in these situations there lies a great opportunity for statesmanship on the part of the colonial Powers-an opportunity which they must seize before it is too late. It is impossible, moreover, to view some of these outstanding problems -whether it is the position of the United Nations in re- gard to the crisis in South-East Asia or the lack of progress in disarmament-without relating them to the fact that the United Nations has not yet attained the goal of uni- versality of membership. In the long run the Organization cannot be expected to function to full effect if one fourth of the human race is not allowed to participate in its delibera- tions. I know that there are serious political difficulties involved in correcting this situa- tion; but I hope that the long-term advant- ages may be more clearly seen and the neces- sary adjustments made. This process may take some further time. Meanwhile, I feel that all countries should be encouraged and enabled, if they wish to do so, to follow the work of the Organization more closely. It could only be of benefit to them and to the United Nations as a whole to enable them to maintain observers at Headquarters, at the United Nations Office at Geneva and in the regional economic com- missions, and to expose them to the impact of the work of the Organization and to the currents and cross-currents of opinion that prevail within it, as well as to give them some opportunity to contribute to that exchange. Such contacts and inter-communication would surely lead to a better understanding of;:the problems of the world and a more realistic approach to their solution, In this matter I have felt myself obliged to follow the established tradition by which only cer- tain governments have been enabled to main- tain observers. I commend this question for further examination by. the General Assembly so that the Secretary-General may be given a clear directive as to the policy to be followed in the future in the light, I would hope, of these observations. The United Nations is an experiment in multilateral international diplomacy. Gov- ernments maintain here Permanent Repre- sentatives who have to carry out instruc- tions understandably designed to promote the political and other interests of the Gov- ernments concerned. At the same time, however, these Governments have subscribed to the principles and ideals of the Charter and they have to recognize that one of its basic purposes is to be "a centre for bar- monizing the actions of nations" in the attainment of the common ends for which the United Nations was established. I am glad that in most cases the representatives of Member States do not, in their pursuit of national interests, forget the larger in- terests of humanity represented by this Organization. I personally believe that it should be possible for the Governments of Member States in all 'cases to use the United Nations as a centre for harmonizing their actions so that the Interests of hu- manity may not suffer but may be properly served, In these observations. I have stressed some of the basic beliefs which I have held in. the discharge of my functions as Secre- tary-General over the last fifty-eight months. I feel that this is an appropriate occasion for me to urge that the problems to which I have referred and the suggestions which I have made deserve careful consideration if the Organization is to be strengthened, if peace is to be preserved and promoted, and if we are to make real progress towards the goal of the economic and social advancement of all peoples. There are many ways of reach- In.g these objectives of peace and well-being, and I do not believe that anyone should adopt a dogmatic approach to them. Conditions differ widely from country to country and each bats the right, within the broad frame- work of the principles of the United Na- tions, to pursue its goals in its own way and by means which it judges most appro- priate and fruitful. At the same time I believe that the ideological differences that have divided the world are beginning to show signs of losing their sharp edge, and I approach the end of my term of office with some confidence that, over the years, the United Nations will prove to be the means by which mankind will be able not only to survive, but also to achieve a great human synthesis. [From the New York (N.Y.) World Journal Tribune, Sept. 18, 1966] PAPAL PLEA FOR PEACE VATICAN CITY.-Pope Paul VI will urge worldwide prayers in October as part of a new peace campaign to try to end the war in Viet Nam, the Vatican announced yester- day. The Vatican said the Pope will issue an ancyclical letter to the world's bishops Mon- day urging special prayers next month-the month of the Holy Rosary. An authoritative source said world peace would be foremost among the subjects rec- ommended for prayer and that the pontiff had given Viet Nam much serious thought during the two months he spent at his sum- mer residence in Castel Gandolfo. He re- turned to the Vatican yesterday afternoon. The source said the Pope felt this was the time for a new peace campaign, but his ac- tion is expected to be chiefly religious in na- ture rather than a specific suggestion to statesmen or a sensational gesture. The Pope, who has been in Castel Gandolfo since July 16, returned to the Vatican yes- terday afternoon. Some sources speculated he might start his push for peace in an in- formal speech from his window overlooking St. Peter's Square today. "There has been a spate of rumors that something big is coming up," the Source said, "but it would appear that a mediation offer or a peace-making trip to one of the coun- tries concerned is out of the question for the time being. A call for worldwide prayer would seem more likely." "If the Pope, has some specific suggestion to make, beyond those he made in the past, he might do so later in a public speech or through diplomatic channels. But an ap- peal for prayers seems certain to be the first step." APOSTOLIC LETTER The call could take the form of an apostolic letter to the world's bishops or a message asking all Catholics to pray for world peace during October, the "month of the Holy Rosary." The sources said the Viet Nam war and other threatening developments such as the great purge in Red China were one of the Pope's main concerns during his two-month stay in Castel Gandolfo. Another was the question of possible changes in the church's ban on artificial birth control, on which a papal pronounce- ment may be forthcoming before the end of the year. Pope Paul scored one victory by bringing about a short-lived Christmas truce in Viet Narn?last winter. In ?recent months, the Pope put aside his public pronouncements on Viet Nam to con- centrate on such other problems as the famine in India. But Vatican sources said- he was still quietly exploring all chances to end the southeast Asian war and was ready to act "whenever it appears a gesture part could prove helpful." EXCERPTS FROM SPEECH BY RICHARD GOODWIN BEFORE AMERICANS FOR DEMOCRATIC ACTION, SEPTEMBER 17, 1966, WASHINGTON, D.C. There is, however, another issue which has reduced discussions about domestic America to academic discourse, which has swallowed up the New Frontier and Great Society, and which is eroding our position throughout the world. That issue if, of course, the war in Vietnam. The Vietnamese war is, I believe, the most dangerous conflict since the end of World War II: more dangerous than Berlin or even Korea. In those confrontations the danger was clear and sensibly appraised. The stakes were fairly obvious to both sides. Objectives were carefully limited; and power ultimately became the handmaiden of reason and final accomodation. In Vietnam, on the other hand, the dangers are confused and unclear. Objectives are expressed in vague generalities which open to endless vistas. Moreover, from other cold war confrontations there evolved a set of tacit understandings de- signed to limit conflict even while it was be- ing waged. That, for example, is the real meaning of the no-sanctuary policy carefully observed, we should remember, by both sides. Today those understandings are in grave danger of being swept away, and with them our most important protections against en- larging conflict. The air is charged with rhetoric. We are buried in statements and speeches about negotiation and peace, the defense of free- dom and the dangers of communism, the desire to protect the helpless and compassion for the dying. Much of it is important and sincere and well-meaning. Some is intended to deceive. Some of is deliberate lie and distortion. But the important thing is not what we are saying, but what we are doing; not what is being discussed, but what is happening. And what is happening is not confusing or unclear or contradictory at all. It is not masked in obscruity or buried in secret archives. It stands in clear, vivid and tower- ing relief against the landscape of conflict. The war is getting larger. Every month there are more men in combat, more bombs falling, greater expenditures, deeper commit- ments. It is the steady inexorable course of this conflict since its beginning. We have gone to the United Nations' and the war has grown larger. We have offered funds for development and talked of social reform; and the war has grown larger. We have pre- dicted victory and called for compromise; and the war has grown larger. There is therefore, little escape from the conclusion that it will grow larger still. Nor Is this steady pattern the consequence of inexorable historical forces. It flows from the decisions of particular men in particular places-in Washington and Hanoi, in Saigon and in the jungle headquarters of the Viet- cong. It is in part a product of communist hope and drive for victory; but it is partly our decision too. And we must suppose those same decisions will continue to be made. Nor is this, as we are sometimes told, be- cause there is no alternative. There are dozens of alternatives. There are enclave programs, and programs to hold the centers of population. There are suggestions that we rely on pacification of the countryside rather than the destruction of the Vietcong. There are proposals to limit the bombing or to end it. There are proposals for negotia- tions, complete with all the specifics of pos- Approved For Release 2005/06/29: CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 'Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 September 19, 1'966 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE sible agreement. The fact is the air is full of alternatives. They have simply been re- jected in favor of another course; the present course. And we must also suppose they will continue to be rejected. All prohecy is an exercise in probability. With that caution let us try to strip the argument of its necessary passion and dis- cuss the probabilities which are compelled by the awesome logic of the course of events in Vietnam. Passion is important; it lies at the root of war and of hatred of war. Nor do I lack personal feeling; for only the strong- est of feelings could impel me to discuss a subject with which I was so recently con- nected in so intimate a way. Yet we can perhaps now meet more productively on the common ground of reason. Rarely has there been greater need for such unity among men of good will. In other places I have set forth my per- sonal views on the conduct of the war in South Vietnam: The belief that we have an important stake in Southeast Asia, and that we must continue the battle in the South- although differently than we are now doing- until a political settlement is reached. And I have, like many others, discussed alterna- tive routes to these objectives. Today, how- ever, I would like to talk about the lengthen- ing shadow of the war in the North; for in that war are the swiftly germinating seeds of the most grave danger. In this, as in so many aspects of the war, much of the information which feeds judg- ment is deeply obscured. Of course, in times of armed conflict facts are often elusive and much information, of necessity, cannot be revealed. By its nature war is hostile to truth. Yet with full allowance for neces- sary uncertainties I believe there has never been such intense and widespread deception and confusion as that which surrounds this war. The continual downpour of contradic- tions, mistatements, and kaleidoscopically shifting attitudes has been so torrential that it has almost numbed the capacity to separ- ate,truth from conjecture or falsehood. At one time we are told there is no military solution, and then that victory can be ours. There are months when we talk about negotiations and months when we forget them. There are times when dissenters give aid and comfort to the enemy and times when they are acting in the greatest of our tradi- tions. We have been reassured about efforts to reach a peaceful settlement when there is no plan or program for settlement in exist- ence. - We are given endless statistics with a nu- merical precision which only masks the fact they are based on inadequate information, or guesses, or even wishful thinking. For ex- ample, if we take the numbers of enemy we are supposed to be killing, add to that the defectors, along with a number of wounded much less than our own ratio of wounded to killed, we find we are wiping out virtually the entire North Vietnamese force every year. This truly makes their continued resistance one of the marvels of the world. Unless the figures are wrong, which of course they are. We are told the bombing is terribly costly to North Vietnam. Yet the increase in So- viet" and Chinese aid, since the bombing, is far greater, in economic terms, than the loss through bombing. Except in human life, the North Vietnamese are showing a profit. At the time of the Hanoi-Haiphong bomb- ings last June we were told that in the first six months of 1966 enemy truck movement had doubled, the infiltration of supplies was up 150%, and infiltrated personnel increased 120%. However, the fact is we do not know, except inthe most vague and general way, how much supplies are being brought in or how many men. They move at night, some- times on trails we have not yet discovered, and the best intelligence gives only the most vague picture. We could not only be wrong, but enormously wrong. The swiftness with which we change our estimates helps show that seeming exactness conceals large uncer- tainties. The statements which followed the Hanoi- Haiphong bombings are an illuminating ex- ample of this process in action. It was said the raids would destroy a large proportion of North Vietnam's fuel capacity and this would help paralyze-or at least slow down-the process of infiltration. Yet these raids had been anticipated, alternative techniques of providing fuel had been de- veloped, and the raids were destind to have little if any effect on the North Vietnamese capacity to make war. And this was clear at the time we bombed. We were told, in an inside story in the New York Times, that the bombings would prove to Hanoi it could not count on its allies. The fact is that aid was stepped up as we anticipated it would be. Within a few days a high official said fresh intelligence showed that Hanoi was now plunged in gloom, weary of war, and suf- fused with a sense of hopelessness, presum- ably at least in part as a result of the raids. 'Yet, there was no substantial intelligence of this kind. We have heard little about it since. And recent information indicates that the opposite was the case-the enemy's will was strengthened. The truth is that this major and spectac- ular escalation in the war had had little measurable effect on the enemy's capacity or morale, and most of those who looked at the matter seriously in advance of the bombing knew it would probably be ineffective. Yet despite confusion and misstatement, despite the enormous difficulty of grasping the realities on which policy must be based, I believe we can know that further escalation of the war in the North will only bring us farther from settlement and closer to serious danger of a huge and devastating conflict. We began the campaign of bombing in the North as a result of the enormous and un- resolved difficulties of winning the real war, the war in the South. As predicted by almost every disengaged expert, from General Ridgway to George Kennan; and as taught by the whole history of aerial warfare, that bombing has neither brought the enemy to his knees or to the council table. It has not destroyed his ca- pacity to make war, or seriously slowed down either infiltration or the flow of supplies. At each step it was claimed the bombing would make a decisive difference. Yet it has made hardly any difference at all. In fact, the tempo of conflict has increased. The official statements justifying the Hanoi-Haiphong raids bore partial witness to the futility of bombing. We were told the raids were necessary because infiltration had increased enormously; and official admission of the failure of one of the most intensive bombing campaigns in world history. De- spite thousands upon thousands of raids more men and supplies are flowing South and the routes of infiltration have been wid- ened and improved. Despite the bombing, or perhaps because of it, all signs indicate the North Vietnamese will to fight has stiff- ened and the possibilities of negotiation have dimmed. Despite the bombing, or because of it, North Vietnam has become increasingly dependent upon Russia and China. Despite the bombing, or because of it there has been a vastly increased supply of aid to North Vietnam by Russia and China and a deepen- ing world communist commitment to this war. In short the bombing has been a failure, and may turn out to be a disaster. Yet we once again hear voices calling for further escalation; just as each previous time that the bombing has failed we have been told that more bombing 1s necessary and new goals are articulated. First it was said we wanted to stop infiltration. Next, we would persuade the North Vietnamese to come to the Council table. Then we would punish them and force them to surrender. Now men are talking of the need to destroy their capacity to make war. And so we move inexorably up the ladder of failure toward widening devastation. And the latest goal, the destruction of enemy capacity, if ever adopted, will be the most vaguely ambitious of all. For such capacity rests on the entire society; and that whole society; factories, dams, power plants, cities themselves must be brought tumbling down. All of this is possible despite the fact that each future escalation will probably have the effect of previous escalations. It will increase the dangers of wider war, lessen the chances of a negotiated settlement, drain away effort which should be concentrated in the South, and further alienate our allies, and have little damaging effect on the ene- my's ability or will to fight. We are sometimes asked what else we can do. I believe there are other things to do. The war can be fought more effectively in the South. The search for a settlement can be given greater direction and brilliance. We can prepare ourselves, if necessary, to accept a long ground war of attrition lead- ing ultimately to a political settlement. But that is not the question. If the bombing cannot win the war, if it does not work; and above all if it carries tremendous political and military risks, then it should not be increased, either out of frustration with the war or with the polls. For the greatest danger of this course- the course of escalation-is not only in the extent of devastation and death, or the dam- age it does to the hope of peaceful solution, but the fact that each step of the way in- creases in vast proportion the danger of a huge and bloody conflict. If North Vietnam is devastated then all reason for restraint or compromise is gone. The fight is no long- er a way for the South but a struggle for survival calling their still largely uncom- mitted armies and people into battle. Nor can China stand by and see its ally destroyed. I do not believe China wants to fight the United States, at least not yet; but it cannot stand by while we destroy North Vietnam. To do so would forfeit all its claim to moral and political leadership of militant commu- nism. They would then be truly a paper dragon, stoking the fires of revolution only when Chinese blood and land was not at stake. Nor is China's entrance likely to be sig- nalled by a huge and dramatic sweep of armies across the frontier. It is far more likely that increasing destruction in the North will stimulate or compel the Chinese to accelerate the nature and kind of their assistance. Perhaps Chinese pilots will be- gin to fly air defense over Hanoi. The num- ber of Chinese troops in North Vietnam may be greatly increased. Chinese anti-aircraft crews may be placed throughout the country. Thus, step by step, China acting in response to seeming necessities, may become involved in a war it did not fully contemplate, much as we have. And there are many signs that this process has already begun. This is the most ilkely and grave route to enlarging con- flict. And if China does enter we must bomb them, for certainly we will not permit them sanctuaries or, if it comes to that, engage their armies solely in the jungles of South- east Asia. And lastly is the Soviet Union, forced to choose between China and America. None of this is certain. An entirely dif- ferent course is possible. Yet the danger of such a chain of events grows by immeasur- able strides each time we enlarge the war in the North: and if past is prologue we will continue that enlargement. Yet the fan- tastic fact, the truth that challenges belief, is that this is being done although virtually no one remains beside some of the engaged Approved For Release 2005/06/29 CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 22134 Approved For Release 2005/06/29: CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE military and a few men in the State Depart- ment-virtually no one in the Administra- tion or out=who believes that increased bombing will have a decisive effect on the war in South Vietnam. We are taking likely and mounting risks in pursuit of an elusive, obscure, marginal, and chimercial hope; a course which defies reason and experience alike. Yet I believe this is the way we are going; that only beneficent and uncertain fortune tail bar the way. This is not a belief born of personal fear. After all, we, or most of us,' will continue to work and prosper, hold meetings and make speeches, unless all of our civilization is swallowed up. Bven then enough will survive for the race to evolve and perhaps create something finer. It is rather a belief born of a fallible reason and analysis, always better able to describe our situation than guide our action, which seeks in the acts of our past and the attitudes of our present a guide for our future. I do not wish however, to come with a counsel of despair. The surest guarantee of misfortune is resignation. Therefore, we must all make what effort we can. There are enormous differences among the critics of 'the war. There are those who believe we have no interest in Vietnam or even in all of Asia. There are those who wish us to with- draw. There are fierce debates over the his- tory of the war, the nature of its partici- pants, the goals of our enemies. There are those, like myself, who believe we should carry on the war in the South while intensi- fying, modifying and sharpening the search for peaceful compromise tied to some measures of de-escalation in the North. Yet our danger is so grave that those who fear the future even more than they distrust the past-a group which encompasses, I believe, the majority of the American people-must seek some common ground rather than dis,- sipating energies in exploring the varieties of dissent. Without sacrificing individual views we must also shape a unified stand, a focal point of belief and action which can unite all who apprehend coming dangers. Only in this way can we create a voice strong enough to be heard across the country, bringing to- gether men of diverse beliefs, adding strength to the views of those in government who share this apprehension. It must also be a clear and direct stand; one that fires re- sponse in those millions of our fellow citizens who glimpse through complexity, discord and obscurity the vision of something dark and dangerous. I believe there is such a position. It is simply the victorious slogan of the Demo- cratic Party in 1964. It is: No wider war. It is to oppose any expansion of the bomb- ing. It is to speak and work against all who would enlarge the war in the North. Such a stand will not end the war in South Vietnam. It may even prolong it. It will not fully answer the deep objections, feelings and fears of many in this room or across the country. But it can crystallize the inarticulate objections of many. It may well increase the weight and impact of the forces of restraint. Most importantly it strikes at the most ominous menace to the lives of millions and the peace of the world. Such a rallying cry requires compromise, the willingness to seek less than is desired; but that is the basic necessity of those who seek not self indulgence but to shape the course of this nation. To be most effective this position will re- quire more than speeches and resolutions. It will need structure and purpose. I sug- gest this organization work with other xoups and individuals to form a national committee against widening of the war. It will not be aimed at withdrawal or even a lessening of the war in the South; although individuals who oppose escalation may also hold those views. Thus it will be open to all groups who oppose escalation in the North regardless of their position on other issues, and will be open to the millions of Americans who belong to no group but who share this basic belief and apprehension. Such a committee can provide a constant flow of objective information about Vietnam. It can keep vigil over official statements and ask the hard questions which might help separate wishful thinking from facts. It will neither be against the Administration nor for it, neither with any political party or opposed to it, neither liberal nor conserva- tive. Its sole aim will be to mobilize and inform the American people in order to in- crease the invisible weight of what I be- lieve to be the American majority in the deliberations and inner councils of govern- ment. Its purpose is to help the President and others in government by providing a counter pressure against those who urge a more militant course; a pressure for which those in government should be grateful since it will help them pursue the course of wise restraint. Although I believe deeply in this proposal I do not wish to give the argument a cer- tainty I do not have. The most important fact of all, the unknown which transcends all debate, are the thoughts and intentions of our adversaries and their allies. 'Yet skepti- cism born of imperfect knowledge cannot be permitted to dull the passion with which we pursue convictions or the fervor of our dissent. For we must fight against fulfill- m.ent of Yeats' prophecy which foresaw de- struction if the time should come when "the best lack all conviction, and the worst are full of passionate intensity." Some have called upon us to mute or stifle dissent in the name of patriotism and the national interest. It is an argument which monstrously misconceives the nature and pr cess and the greatest strength of American democracy. It denies the germinal assumption of our freedom: that each in- dividual not only can but must judge the wisdom of his leaders. (How marvelously that principle has strengthened this coun- try--never more drastically than in the post- war period when others have buried con- tending views under the ordained wisdom of the state, thus allowing received error to breed weakness and even defeat. The examples are legion, The virgin lands set- tlement and the Great Leap Forward failed because experiment was made into unchal- lengeable law; while we began to' catch up in space, modernized and increased our de- fenses, and started the Alliance for Progress because what began as dissent became na- tional purpose). Of course the enemy is glad to see our divisions. But our concern is with America not Hanoi. Our concern is with those millions of our own people, and with future generations, who will them- selves be glad to see that there were men who struggled to prevent needless devastation and thus added to the strength and the glory of the United States. Among the greatest names in our history were men who did not hesitate to assault the acts and policies of government when they felt the good of the nation was at stake: Jefferson at a time when the integrity of the new nation was still in doubt, Lincoln during the Mexican war, Roosevelt in the midst of national depression, John F. Kennedy among cold war defeats and danger. Only a dozen years ago, in 1954, another American leader assaulted our policy in Viet- nam, saying "The United States is in clear danger of being left naked and alone in a hostile world ... It is apparent only that American foreign policy has never in all Its history suffered such a stunning reversal. What is American policy in Indochina? All of us have listened to the dismal themes of reversal and confusions' and alarms and ex- cursions which have emerged from Wash- ingtoin . . . We have been caught bluffing by our enemies. Our friends and allies are September 19, .1966 frightened and wondering, as we do, where we are headed ... The picture of our coun- try needlessly weakened in the world'. today is so painful that we should turn our eyes from abroad and look homewards." It is in this same spirit of concern for our country that we should conduct our dissent as, on that day, did Lyndon B. Johnson then leader of the minority party. It is not our privilege, but our duty as patriots, to write, to speak, to organize, to oppose any President and any party and any policy at any time which we believe threatens the grandeur of this nation and the well- being of its people. This is such it time. And in so doing we will fulfill the most solemn duty of free men in a free country: to fight to the limit of legal sanction and the most spacious possibilities of our constitu- tional freedoms for the safety and greatness of their country as they believe it to be. The arguments of this speech have been practical ones founded, to the limits of my capacity and knowledge, upon the concrete and specific realities and dangers of our pres- ent situation. But there is more than that in the liberal faith. American liberalism has many faces. It pursues divergent paths to varied and sometimes conflicting goals. It cannot be captured in an epigram or sum- marized in a simple statement of belief. Part of it, however, is simply and naively it belief in belief. It is the idealistic, visionary and Impractical faith that action and policy and politics must rest on the ancient and rooted values of the American people. It still be- lieves that for a nation to be great, to serve its own people and to command the respect and trust of others, it must not only do something but stand for something. It must represent in speech and act in ideals of its society and civilization. Some part of the conflict in Vietnam may have been unavoidable, some is the result of well-intentioned error, but some must surely flow from the fact we have bent belief to the demands of those who call themselves realists or tough minded. It is not realistic or hard-headed to solve problems and Invest money and use power unguided by ultimate aims and values. It is thoughtless folly. For it ignores the re- alities of human faith and passion and de- sire; forces ultimately more powerful than all the calculations of economists and gen- erals. Our strength is in our spirit and our faith. If we neglect this we may empty our treasuries, assemble our armies and pour forth the wonders of our science, but we will act in vain and we will build for others. It is easy to be tough when toughness means coercing the weak or rewarding the strong; and when men of power and influence stand ready to applaud. It is far harder to hold to principle, speaking, if necessary, alone against the multitude, allowing others to make their own mistakes, enduring the frustration of long and inconclusive strug- gles, and standing firm for ideals even when they bring danger. But it is the true path of courage. It is the only path of wisdom. And it is the sure path of effective service to the United States of America. CONCLUSION OF MORNING BUSINESS The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tem- pore. Is there further morning busi- ness? If not, morning business is con- cluded. MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE-EN- ROLLED BILL SIGNED A message from the House of Repre- sentatives, by Mr. Bartlett, one of its reading clerks, announced that the Speaker had affixed his signature to the Approved For Release 2005/06/29 CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 Approved Fo September 19, 1966 CON "In short, most that was lovely has been made hideous and riches have been squan- dered. It is a late chapter in the sad his tory of so many North Shore harbors." There are still a piddling 40 acres of pro- ductive wetlands left in Mt. Sinai Harbor. Dr. Murphy and others trying to save the last remains of a rich natural asset are fighting now to save those last 40 acres from the dredge. Brookhaven Town wants to enlarge the harbor, dredging the area for commercial sand and gravel-with the spoil materials to be dumped on Cedar Beach-and also to dig a 200-foot wide channel to a boat yard on the landward end of the harbor. The U.S. Department of Interior's Fish and Wildlife Service in recent years was given authority to speak up on conserva- tion questions like the dredging permit. Summarized, their answer to the town says: The dredger mining gravel In the harbor now has "operated outside the area covered by the permit and excavated to a depth ex- ceeding that authorized." A February 1965 report, the federal service pointed out, "stated that dredging and fill- ing in Mount Sinai Harbor has already caused Incalculable loss," that "this often- extended permit (for gravel mining) was re- sponsible for a large part of these losses." And the report sums up, "sacrifice of an additional 40 acres of salt marsh and salt water wetlands does not seem warranted by the need for additional anchorage for boats, inasmuch as a very deep harbor has already been created accompanied by the destruc- tion of over 100 acres of irreplaceable estua- rine habitat." The report Is buttressed by facts garnered in on-the-spot investigations which showed that silt from dredging was causing damage and that more wetland was sliding into deep potholes gouged by the dredge. The federal expert's findings urge that the gravel dredging permit be denied. They also urge that the boat channel dredging re- quest be denied. .Instead, the experts say, a 100-foot wide channel to the boat yard, no more than six feet deep, should be created largely by using a longer path of existing natural channels. Those findings will be part of the testi- mony next Oct. 7 when the Army Corp of Engineers holds a unique hearing-only the second on Long Island in recent years-on whether or not to grant permission for the dredging. The unusual 10 a.m. session at Port Jef- ferson High School was set up because a valiant handful of conservationists, like Dr. Murphy, demanded a chance to be heard publicly. They are still working wetlands in Mt. Sinai Harbor that produce food for fish, fish for the water and shore birds that fre- quent the harbor, fish for the bigger fish at sea-fish for man. There are blue crabs In the wetlands too, and the other marine life sustained by the miraculous wetlands cycle. There is gravel there, too. If the past repeats itself, some day there will be no gravel left in once-beautiful Mt. Sinai Harbor. Long before that, if heedless man has his way, there will be no trace of the wetlands superfarm. The waters will be as barren of life as a desert. Just remember this. Man can make a desert bloom. He can not bring wetlands back to life once they have been destroyed. Mr. Speaker, Mr. Victor and the Long Island Press have exposed the problems. It is our responsibility in the Congress to find the solutions. ESSIONAL RECORD -APPENDIX A4841 The Future Looks Bright in South Vietnam EXTENSION OF REMARKS of HON. ABRAHAM J. MULTER OF NEW YORK IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Monday, September 19, 1966 Mr. MULTER. Mr. Speaker, one of the most optimistic reports on the recent election in Vietnam comes from William S. White. I commend to the attention of our col- leagues Mr. White's column which ap- peared in the September 16, 1966, edition of the New York World Journal Tribu ie. The column follows: VIET FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT (By William S. White) WASHINGTON.-The long nightmare of Viet Nam is lifting at last, and though the way to final victory over the Communist assail- ants from without and within still stretches out long and forbidding, a true pre-dawn does now loom faintly ahead. This is the real meaning of the spectacular success for the people of South Viet Nam. In the teeth of tireless terrorism from the Communists, they have voted in better than 80 per cent of their total strength in a free election. They are going now to make a democratic constitution by orderly and democratic means. To all the world they have issued, moreover, a thundering rebuke to all those- the Communists, the fellow-travelers, the merely deluded peaceniks and beatniks-who for years have peddled the monstrous fiction that the Communist Viet Cong were in truth popular In South Viet Nam and were only engaged in a "democratic revolution." By immense majorities, the South Viet- namese themselves have forever destroyed this Big Lie version of current history. By immense majorities, they have shown their determination both to keep their country from the reaching grasp of internal and ex- ternal Communist trigger men and to make of it a decent state in Asia. This is a victory for American policy of measureless importance-not for Democratic policy and not for Republican policy but for a partisan stance of strength in trevail and of steadfast honor in piled-up adversity. To this splendid end the Republicans, and no- tably the party's leading figures in and out of Congress, have contributed with mem- orable generosity and magnificent concern for the vital, non-political interests of this nation and of all the free world. In the narrower sense, of course, it is a triumph for the Democratic President who has risked most in Viet Nam and has borne the heaviest of the burden from a constantly biting Democratic New Left at home and the incessantly destructive carping that has come from some of our alleged friends, such as Charles de Gaulle of France. Will it all help Deinocratlc Congressional candidates in November's elections? No doubt it will assist most of them, since most have stood all along with this nation's pledge to stay the course in Viet Nam. No doubt, too, it may improve the President's "image" In the opinion polls. But It will also help many a Republican congressional candidate, as well it should, for many of these, too, have supported with unshaken courage the commitment of three successive Presidents of the United States to the people of South Viet Nam. To look for two-bit domestic partisan credit or gain in this transcendental victory for a tortured people and for an old concept called the right to freedom-to freedom even in Asia-would be little-minded beyond be- lief. For what has happened in Viet Nam can scarcely be described without the use of superlative heaped upon superlative. Fbr the first time in the Cold War a na- tion under Communist attack not only from abroad but at home has been able to con- duct a free election as free men. The so- called war of liberation as a special instru- ment of Communist China lies in ruins in the now-deserted balloting places of South Viet Nam for the cynical and evil fraud it has always been. The Red Chinese have been thrown back as never before. The policy of a rationally restrained but absolutely determined mili- tary resistance to Chinese aggression-by- proxy has, been proved beyond all doubt to be not only one of honor but one of effec- tiveness as well. Over Asia the long darkness is lifting at least, though not yet dispersed. The Chi- nese wave of the future is not, after all, to be the wave of the future for Asia, just as Hitler's wave of the future broke at length two decades ago upon the great rock of reso- lute Allied resistance. EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. RAY J. MADDEN OF INDIANA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Monday, September 19, 1966 Mr. MADDEN. Mr. Speaker, on last Friday I spoke to the delegates from eight States bordering on the Great Lakes and also representatives from our neighbor Canada. I am hereby submitting excerpts from remarks which I made to the assembled delegates : EXCERPTS FROM SPEECH OF CONGRESSMAN RAY J. MADDEN BEFORE CONFERENCE OF GREAT LAKES WATER POLLUTION AT THE PALMER HOUSE, CHICAGO, ILL., SEPTEMBER 16, 1966 Mr. Chairman: Vice President HUMPHREY and his cosponsors are to be commended for calling this conference to further develop and decide upon executive action to curtail and eventually eliminate the pollution of Lake Michigan and the other great bodies of wa- ter commonly called the "Great Lakes" of our Nation. This conference representing officials from the States of New York, Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Minnesota, Indiana, Michigan and Canada are contributing a great deal of their time and services in com- ing to Chicago on this occasion to help solve one of the Nation's greatest problems-Wa- ter Pollution. This conference will also consider the pol- lution problems of the Great Lakes and also the pollution problems pertaining to inland lakes, rivers, and streams located within the borders of the above-mentioned states. In the last session of Congress I joined with a great number of other House and Senate Members in sponsoring resolutions to establish the Federal Water Pollution Control Administration and to provide grants for re- search and development, to increase grants for the construction of municipal sewage treatment plants, to authorize the establish- ment of standards of water quality to aid in preventing, controlling and abating pollution of interstate waters, and for other purposes. Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00445R000400110009-7 A4842 Approved For Release 2005/06/29,: CIA-'RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -- APPENDIX September I also participated in sponsoring legisla- tion on clearing up water pollution along the shores of the great water bodies referred to as the "Great Lakes.", The legislation sponsored by our col- leagues, Congressman JOHN A. BLATNIK, Of Minnesota, as Chairman of the Subcommit- tee on Public Works, and Senator EDMUND S. MUSE.IE of Maine, have made great prog- ress in Congress, The House legislation would provide $2.45 b2 on for. sewage treatment plants for the nei t five years and establish a new concept of, incentive grants amounting to 10 per- cent for the development of basin plans for wate, pollution control. It would also in- crease the Federal grant by another 10 per- cent or up to 50 percent under the basin plan, if the States matched to the extent of 25 percent of the total costs. It would also provide $228 million for water pollu- tion research through the next three years as well as other progressive steps toward curbing water pollution. The work that has been done In this ses- sion of Congress is merely a beginning of future plans to make an all-out effort to solve the water pollution problem. If not curbed, polluted water will, in a few years, jeopardize the health of millions of human beings as well as animal and plant life throughout our land. Economists estimate that in this generation we have suffered losses from water and air pollution that run into billions of dollars each year. Un- less this program is pursued to a successful conclusion, the future cost to the American people In health, epidemics, and destruc- tion of animal and plant life will be in- calculable. If this curruption and poison of our lakes and streams, our lands, our rivers and forests and the atmosphere itself is not eliminated the progress and future expansion of food production, health and agriculture Itself will be curtailed, Pollution of our water resources affects every human being and form of life throughout the land. It has been reported by experts who have studied pollution that every river, stream and lake within our nation's borders has, in some degree, suffered from pollution. Pollution in our Great Lakes system and in our in- land lakes and rivers has already destroyed millions of, wild life,,fish and other game. Our nation? states, and local communi- ties much organize and develop committees of experts to formulate long range plans to achieve cooperation with our national gov- erudient and work out a unified and nation- wide solution to clear up the waters of our country. Communities along with industry and business must be willing and able to contribute funds necessary for constructing and installing modern' facilities to destroy industrial waste and sewage before it is re- leased to enter our streams and lakes. Sew- age and Industrial waste, under modern scientific inventions, can be satisfactorily cured and eradicated before it enters the .Streams and lakes. The installation of the necessary machinery on the part of industry and municipalities can curb' this nation- wide poisonous health hazard and it must be done regardless of the cost. The, people of our nation are cognizant of the fact that Federal financial assistance will be necessary if this great program is to suc- ceed. It is also necessary that every munici- pality, business and industry cooperate in this necesasry effort. President Johnson has recommended, and I am satisfied the vast majority of Members of Congress are in favor of an all-out effort to master this problem but we must have the complete cooperation of local industry and municipalities to suc- ceed in the effort. Federal grants for waste treatment plants now total more than $725 million. Almost 7,000 projects are now under construction or already completed. The president also requests an additional $150 million to continue this important and nec- essary effort. The Federal Government already possesses authority to immediately bring suit to stop pollution when the pollution constitutes an Imminent danger to public health or welfare. Our Government has the right to subpoena witnesses in administrative hearings and the Secretary has the right to initiate enfoce- ment proceedings when pollution occurs in navigable waters, intrastate or interstate. The Government also has authority to de- mand registration of all existing or poten- tial sources of major pollution and the United States officials have the right to in- spect such sources. Private citizens also are allowed to bring suit In Federal Court to seek relief from pollution. These may seem strict and stringent measures nevertheless extra- ordinary steps must be taken to preserve health and human life as well as animal and vegetable production in our Nation. The Federal Government has already taken effective steps requiring all new Federal in- stallations to include adequate water pollu- tion control systems. All Federal agencies are required to submit long-range plans to bring existing installations up to a high level of pollution control required by the new facilities. If the destruction of our fresh water sup- ply in certain sections of the United States continues it will be but a short time until the shortage of water will be the number one problem facing approximately 200 million people in our land. President Johnson is doing everything in his power and the Con- gress will cooperate in legislation. and par- ticipating funds to expand methods to con- serve, existing water supplies and prevent complete destruction of our lakes, rivers and streams. Maj. Gen. Thomas G. Corbin, Director of Air Force Legislative Liaison, To Be Transferred EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. CHARLES S. GUBSER OF CALIFORNIA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Monday, September 19, 1966 Mr. GUBSER. Mr. Speaker, I have heard it said that if you want to know a. man do business with him. But if you want to understand him take a trip with him. Mr. Speaker, some weeks ago it was necessary for us to say goodby, with reluctance, to a man, Maj. Gen.. Thomas 0. Corbin, Director of Air Force Legis- lative Liaison, whom many of us are privileged to know and understand. Of course, we were pleased that he was to be transferred to, a new and more challenging position, but nevertheless we shall miss a good friend. All of us who did business with Gen- eral Corbin learned to respect him for the splendid service he rendered our constituents through us. His office was operated fairly and efficiently, with the best interests of the Nation as well as the Air Force in mind at all times. I found my constituents' problems con- sidered with compassion and with a thoroughness that was all and more than. any of us should expect. Doing business with General Corbin was a great source of satisfaction. 19, 1966 But I was to enjoy a special privilege- that of taking a trip with General Corbin and learning to know and understand him as a friend. In the fall of 1965, the Special Investigating Subcommittee of Armed Services, on which I serve, visited every major military supply center in an extensive 5-week trip around the world. Those of us who traveled with General Corbin appreciated his diligence in seeing to it that the information we needed in our work was available to us. Whether it was talking to a GI in the combat zones of Vietnam, pursuing a serious point in a top-secret hearing or briefing, fulfilling the important social requirements at official receptions and dinners in foreign lands, or expertly handling the controls of a fast jet while landing on some Asian airfield, all of us who had the privilege of traveling with Gen. Thomas Corbin remember him for what he is, truly a man's man, a great friend, a fine officer, and a gentleman. Dedication of the Chapel of Our Lady of Siluva in Washington, D.C. EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. EDWARD A. GARMATZ OF MARYLAND IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Monday, September 19, 1966 Mr. GARMATZ. Mr. Speaker, Sun- day, September 4, marked a very im- portant day in the lives of all Lithuan- ians in this country, and those of Lithu- anian descent. On that day, in the Na- tional Shrine of the Immaculate Con- ception here in Washington, was dedi- cated the Chapel of Our Lady of Siluva. This solemn occasion marked the cul- mination of much time, effort and sacri- fice on the part of Americans of Lithu- anian descent and therefore was a time of great rejoicing for all. They came from many parts of the country to join in the celebration. -There are a number of Lithuanians living in my district in Baltimore and we were all highly honored to have one of the most prominent of them, the Right Reverend Louis J. Mendelis, pastor of St. Alphonsus Church in downtown Baltimore, chosen to deliver the address on that happy occasion. Knowing that it will be'of great interest to all of you, I am inserting it in the Appendix of the RECORD. SILUVA CHAPEL DEDICATION SERMON, THE NA- TIONAL SHRINE, WASHINGTON, D.C., SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 4, 1966 "This is the work of the Lord: It is marvel- lous in our eyes! This is the day which the Lord has made! Let us rejoice and beiglad in it." Ps. 117: 23-24. On this historic occasion, no words Can ex- press more fittingly the sentiments of deep gratitude that fills the hearts of ALL Lithu- anians everywhere, then the words of the psalmist just cited. The Siluva Chapel we dedicate today is the work of the Lord and it is marvelous in our eyes. For I recall only too well with what fear and trepidation this work. was undertaken by His Excellency Bishop Vincent Brizgys and his Volunteer Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 dg D 000400110009-7 September 19, 1 ~ AP~~~` A4845 Vietnamese Election Victory May Be Bigger Than We Think EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. ABRAHAM J. MULTER OF NEW YORK IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Monday, September 19, 1966 Mr. MULTER. Mr. Speaker, while every friend of freedom is pleased by the results of the South Vietnamese election there are many problems yet to be solved. Some of the subsidiary benefits of the recent election, however, will help in solving these problems. In this connec- tion I commend to the attention of our colleagues the following column by. Joseph Alsop which appeared in the Sep- tember 16, 1966, edition of the New York World Journal Tribune: VIET ELECTION VICTORY MAY BE BIGGER THAN WE THINK (By Joseph Alsop) NHATRANG, VIETNAM.-The chances are that the success of the Vietnamese election is being underrated at home. Any success here falsifies the predictions and flouts the present prejudice of too many people at home, and in Vietnam, too. So any success, however solid, tends to be denigrated by those same people. Hence the first thing to note is that last Sunday's election was brilliantly, even startling, successful. The turnout of voters, so far surpassing the normal American per- centage, was far greater than anyone could have forecast. Furthermore, all those who voted did so in the face of the grimmest warnings by the Viet Cong. Voting was made a heinous crime by the communist pre-election propa- ganda. This should be noted by the oppo- nents of the President's policy at home, who have a way of hinting that the majority of Vietnamese secretly support the so-called National Liberation Front. The election in- stead proves that the Viet Cong are exactly what they appear-a small armed minor- ity, seeking to seize control by naked force of a people who want no part of them. Having said so much (and it is ludicrous that such things should still need saying!) the obvious question is "What next?" Here in Nhatrang, the headquarters of the Second Corps area, the question seems par- ticularly pressing. In this corps area, the war is a stage or two ahead of the rest of Viet Nam. The enemy's most important units have been driven to base themselves across the border in Cambodia, whence they merely raid Into Vietnamese territory. Except for the four regiments in Cambodia, all the Communist outfits in the field here are suffering gravely from short rations and even worse from malaria. All are trying to avoid c_ om.bat when possible, and more than one of the larger formations seems to have broken down into separate companies and even platoons. What you can see ahead, in fact, is a new military phase, in which the threat of the V. C. main forces will be much diminished. But in this next phase, it will still be necessary to do the long and tedious job of tracking down the remaining V. C., squad by squad and platoon by platoon, and con- currently, long before all fighting ends, South Vietnam will have to develop politically. That would be difficult In any case. In the Vietnamese case, it will be extra difficult for two main reasons that are little under- stood at home. The first is the doubly colonial character of Vietnamese history. The Vietnamese emerge into history as an occupied and subject people. It took them close to a thousand years to throw off the Chinese yoke. And even their culture was In the last two or three years, young so colonial that they always carried on the women have accepted their own dual interest whole business of their quite independent in families and careers, said C. Easton Roth- government not In Vietnamese but in well, president of Mills College. They have Chinese. also become more creative, intellectually Such was the position when the French ar- richer, less interested in security and more rived, to add a second layer of colonial ex- concerned with social ills he said , . perience. It can be seen, then, that the "This is an exciting time," he said. to aid the Vietnamese in evolving modern methods of stable self-government. With the election of the Constituent As- sembly, the Vietnamese have now begun this great task. But already, their second han- dicap stares them in the face. Any stable governmental system always somehow re- presents or takes account of the main forces In the community. Yet the army Is by all odds the biggest force in Viet Nam at the moment; and there is a general desire to get away from military government. What will be developed in the end, none can foresee. One may guess that several attempts may have to be made, over a con- siderable period, before the Vietnamese find what really suits them at last. Before they find this, moveover, Americans should brace themselves for the kind of recurrent political turmoils here that so greatly upset many people at home. It will hardly avert turmoil, but a great plus in the political equation must also be noted. In brief, besides great industry, cour- age and intelligence, the South Vietnamese also possess one of the very richest countries in the whole of Asia. Strange as it may seem, moreover, South Viet Nam has actually been enriched by the war, both materially by the construction of a powerful modern infrastructure for the economy, and man- agerially by the training of hundreds of thousands of technical cadres. Even in the next phase of "political war," as Gen. Nguyen Cao Ky calls it, there should be at least enough peace to make Vietnamese natural wealth and recent enforced progress count for a very great deal. Economics may therefore lubricate politics. But patience will still be needed, not least by the Viet- namese themselves, until the day finally comes when they have found their own way, as the Koreans have already done. Today's Coed Is a Concerned Woman EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. GEORGE P. MILLER OF CALIFORNIA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Friday, August 26, 1966 Mr. MILLER. Mr. Speaker, a very in- teresting article by Judith Martin, Washington Post staff writer, appeared in that newspaper on Saturday, Septem- ber 17. Mrs. Martin reported on an in- terview that she had with Dr. C. Easton Rothwell, president of Mills College, Oakland, Calif. Dr. Rothwell is one of the foremost members of the academic community. He is a progressive educator in the sense that he keeps abreast of today's develop- ments but is in no way a "faddist." Dr. Rothwell is extremely proud of Mills' graduates and they in turn are extremely proud of him. The article follows: TODAY'S COED IS A CONCERNED WOMAN (By Judith Martin) The college girl has stopped asking herself, "Can I combine marriage and a career?" Instead, what she will need to know is, "Where can I find a good baby sitter?" "There's a new liveliness-in classes, in sem- inars, in bull sessions. You can see it in book withdrawals from the library-books which aren't required for courses-and in the sale of good paperbacks. "There's a sense of commitment. Security now is considered akin to dullness. The kids are concerned. "There's a trend to creativity. Partitions are coming down. Mills is one of the real centers for new combinations of the arts, but it's elsewhere, too." Dr. Rothwell attributes part of the- change to the fact that current undergraduates re- cevied their early schooling in "the post- Sputnik time and there has been a revolu- tion in education in those years." Partly, he said, it's a reaction from post- war years, when GIs who were heads of fam- ilies, conscious of having lost school years and anxious to make them up, influenced campus life. But partly, he said, it's just because "it's in the air." The college girl is more likely now, than a few years ago, to be interested in science and do graduate work, he said. - There is less pressure on her to get mar- ried young but she's more likely to continue her work after marriage. Dr. Rothwell, who is on one of "three teams going to 40 cities" to raise money for Mills College, addressed the Mills College alumnae dinner at Fort Myers Officers Club last night. Each team consists of an administrator, a faculty member and a student. Accom- panying him were Barbara Wells, who teaches political science at Mills, and Elizabeth Rid- dleberger, a student from Charlottesville. The college is trying to raise money to meet a Ford Foundation grant of $2,200,000 at a ratio of three to one. A three-year goal of $10 million is apparently going to be exceeded, and there is a ten-year goal of $23,500,000. "But you can't just talk about money," Dr. Rothwell said, so he has been discussing college trends and Mills programs with the alumnae. The development of interdepartmental courses, such as "Human Development" taught by a biologist, a psychologist and a American bought" taught by an art his- torian, professor of literature and an his- torian, have been a Mills trend. The jux- taposition of different arts, such as acting to the music of an orchestra, is also being done. Summer seminars for alumnae and thier husbands, a program which has been done before at Mills, will be rescheduled. EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. ROBERT L. F. SIKES OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Monday, August 22, 1966 Mr. SIKES. Mr. Speaker, I note in the September 17 issue of the Journal of the Armed Forces, a very fine editorial from the pen of Louis Stockstill on the presentation to the Honorable Carl Vin- son of the Sylvanus Thayer Award. This is one of the Nation's most coveted Approved For Release 2005/06/29 : CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110009-7 Approved For Release 2005/06/29': CIA-RDP67B00446R000400110 09-7 A4846 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - APPENDIX September 19, 1966 awards and it is highly appropriate that ancestry as they celebrated the anniver- Mrs. Irene Palmer Challenges Economic t +'k l +hda of Freidrich von p f 1 y Opportunity rograms it now be presented to one of the grea- sary o est of all Congressmen. Steuben. I suppose all of us learned in Steuben who V on I am very pleased to join my colleagues school that it was in extending warmest congratulations to drilled the American Army at Valley Carl Vinson on being the recipient of Forge, but he was much more than that this award and I am pleased to submit for he instilled into our ragtail Army a Mr. Stockstill's commendable editorial sense of devotion, pride, and loyalty that for reprinting in the RECORD: it cherishes to this day. It is hard to THE NATION IS GRATEFUL say what would have emerged from L i StockstiM Valley Forge after that brutal winter had s EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. OLIN E. TEAGUE OF TEXAS IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Tuesday, August 30, 1966 (By ou Mr. TEAGUE of Texas. Mr. Speaker, On Saturday, 10 September, at the United not Von Steuben provided the discipline State Military Academy at West Point, a that eventually meant victory. It is the t News & World Report for Au- man who is beloved by the Armed Forces re- hard, too, to imagine what would have gut 2S, cexcerpts from a ]oe- ceived the Sylvanus Thayer Award. been the fate of the Revolution without guscarried a MIrene Palmer of De The medal, awarded by the Academy's As- the services of the many thousands of written ieyn, La., Mrs. the challenged Enter soclation of GracL1ites, previously has been German volunteers. We think often of prise Quincy, La., she Beaumont the need presented to only eight others, including the great migrations of the middle 19th Generals la the Army Dwight D. Eisenhower thcentury and somehow equate all Ameri- for our present economic opportunity acid Douglas Ivlchrthe This was gone to first cans of German ancestry with that time. programs, war on poverty, and so forth. 3egisloccalaeoron. on which the Award has gone to a , Nothing could be further from the facts. For those in this body who might have In selecting former Representative Vinson In 1766 Benjamin Franklin estimated missed this article, I wish to include it of Georgia for this great honor, the Associa- that Pennsylvania was more than one- herewith: with: ith: -EARTH Loox AT A GROWING tion could have made no better choice. Carl third German. In 1776 a census revealed PROBLEM growth contributions to his nation, and the that there were more than 150,000 Amer- cause plain-spoken of national security, to the g icons of German origin or descent. Von (NOTE p' p development of the in Armed Ftheir Steuben a letter to the editor that is attracting wide- and and to the he men and women men who wear their was not the only German name spread attention. country's uniform will never be surpassed. on the roles of valor in the Revolution. (In this letter Mrs. Irene Palmer of De And they must never be forgotten. He shared those lists with others such as Quincy, La., challenges the theory--often Yet to forget 1s all too easy. Even when Peter Muehlenberg and Nicholas Herki- stated by top officials-that hardships and a man actively holds high office he frequent- mer just to mention two. German- poor living conditions explain riots, crime, ly is surrounded by supplicants whose atti- Americans have been in the van of every and growing dependence on government , but are ou concerted effort of this country be it doles. To Mrs. Palmer, this is nonsense. tude is "We know what you did for us yester- heys eps i tot etirementihe cans be cert in. pushing back the, western frontier or (Crippled, forced to leave school at 1'7, Mrs. settling the bloody Civil War. Palmer has worked hard, without luxuries, that many of these same people will scarcely but: "You will never see us in a marching remember he ever existed. It is estimated today that one Ameri- demonstration line wanting something for Fortunately, the Association of Graduates can in six can trace all or part of his an- nothing. We're too proud for that." of the United States Military Academy, and cestry to Germany. The largest of the (Following are excerpts from a letter to others have not permitted Carl Vinson to German migrations came immediately The Beaumont (Tex.) Enterprise from Mrs. dwell in the obscurity of retirement. They after the Civil War and in the 20 years Irene Palmer of De Quincy, La., and pub- constantly remind him that the nation is following that war more than 2 million lished in The Enterprise on Aug. 3, 1966:) grateful for his long and distinguished sere- them Came to America. Their lot, like These marches, demonstrations, riotings, As Ice and he proud of addressed his the Cadet achievements. achie Corps, in ac- that of all immigrants, was not an easy lootings, police slayings and the such makes d cepting the Thayer Award, Chairman Vinson one. In addition to the normal problems, me literally sick, especially the reasons our down causes are of trying these to o cram cram d dowg observed that the true test of any man is to and suspicions they had to overcome, Governmeour throatst officials be able to combine humility with pride, to be they had to learn a new language. But episodes. wisely aggressive without being dogmatic, to learn it they did and in short order the Sir, I know what hard work, hardship, pable be firm of making without being decisions stubborn, without being be ca, rash, German immigrant community became pain and suffering is. I had polio at age 5 a strong bulwark of America. Their in-? months which left my left leg one and one- assi criticism out b bein g weak, g weak, resenting to inspire be fluence was tremendous-John. Roebling half inches shorter than my right and. about co accept and at onate the out with same time oe tbe inspired by built the Brooklyn Bridge and in doing so one-third the size. others compassionate My father er died at 6 p.m. Sunday In 1935, he serves but to those who serve under him. Stories about that magnificent euuice day. My bother died at 6 a.m. Tuesday and In his long years of service, the former were printed with type from machines was buried Wednesday, leaving me with two Congressman met all of these tests. invented by Otto Mergenthaler. George small sisters and my mother to support. There are numerous places where Chair- Westinghouse invented the airbrake and At 17 I was not a drop-out in school. With man Vinson's accomplishments are memorl- made hundreds of contributions to the no education-not enough, anyway--no ex- alized. He has been accorded many honors, field of electronics as did Charles P. perience and with only one good leg, I quit including the coveted Presidential Freedom Steinmetz. Studebaker and Chrysler are school and went to work to support a family. Medal. well-known names now but not too long I didn't have a teen-age life because my But as he returned to his home after the working hours were always from 10 to 20 West Point ceremonies, the veteran legisla- ago they were just two more German im- hours a day. In 1948, I got my right hand- tor, who will be 83 on 18 November, could migrants. . my working hand; I'm right-handed--in an only have found new pride in the knowledge R. Ii. Macy, the famous department electric ice shaver and mangled it. It was that his name Is now forever engraved in the store, was founded by a peddler named doubtful whether I'd ever be able to use it halls of one of the nation's most historic Lazarus Straus who had joined the ranks again, but after much pain and suffering I institutions, particularly an Institution so of his fellow peddlers-Guggenheim, learned to use what I had left of a hand. close to the people to whom he dedicated a This left me with one good leg and one good lifetime of labor and love. Bloomingdale, and Seligman. It is even hand, but I didn't give up. th t C-1 Schurz a German- t d Von Steuben Day, 1966 EXTENSION OF REMARKS HON. JOHN J. ROONEY OF NEW YORK IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Monday, September 19, 1966 Mr. ROONEY of New York. Mr. Speaker, last Saturday was a particularly happy day for Americans of German e repor & FOLLOW ME JUST ONE DAY born Senator from Missouri, friend of would like for Earl Warren, President President Lincoln, and stanch advocate I wJoh ou l H. HUMPHREY, Earl P Lutent of Nero and Indian rights, was one of King, and all the hell-raising juveniles to the founders of a political party-the come to my home and follow me just one name of which escapes me right now. day. I can guarantee that they wouldn't The contributions of Americans of have enough pep left to go on a demonstra- German ancestry are too many to even tion, marching or rock-throwing party. begin to list in these pages. And the list My day begins at 4 a.m. and ends about 8 grows as our country continues to or 9 p.m., when my health permits. I do my own housework, cooking, washing, ironing, prosper. Mr, Speaker, our country owes sewing, raising flowers and a garden. In fact, much to its citizens of German descent for the past three weeks I have been standing and lineage. It is fitting then that we in a hot kitchen, over a hot stove, canning my salute them on the occasion of the re- vegetables. Have an air conditioner? 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