LETTER OF 16 MAY 1967 FROM CONGRESSMAN DONALD E. LUKENS (R., OHIO) TO THE DIRECTOR CONCERNING NSA

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• Document Creation Date: December 15, 2016
• Document Release Date: April 26, 2004
• Sequence Number: 29
• Publication Date: May 25, 1967
• Content Type: MFR

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25 May 1967
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Letter of 16 May 1967 from Congressman Donald E. Lukens
(R., Ohio) to the Director Concerning NSA
1. On 19 May I conferred with
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subject letter in view of Mr. Lukens' cif ic, ac ive, and presumably
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knowledgeable participation and interest in national student groups. It
was recommendation that it be handled on a no comment
basis.
2. On 19 May I contacted Representative Lukens' office for an
appointment. -:.e was out of town and I visited his office on the day of
his return, May. Although he was busy, I spoke with him on his
office phone: scheduled an appointment to see him at 4:00 p.m.,
24 May 19
3. On the 24th, the House was still involved in protracted floor
discussion of the education bill. Consequently my meeting with Lukens
occurred while we walked from his office to the Capitol and about five
minutes in the Capitol corridor.
4. 1 told Mr. Lukens that the detailed type of questions he had
asked were discussed solely with the CIA Subcommittees and that this
was in keeping with the Director's statutory responsibilities. I
explained our desire to be as cooperative as possible and, with the
understanding that it should not be attributed to the Agency, I assured
him that the students were in no way involved in the intelligence
information activities of the Agency; that the Agency did not involve
itself in the policy of NSA; that consideration of terminating Agency
support to NSA and other organizations had preceded by many years
the Katzenbach report and the Ramparts related disclosures; and
that the Agency had not and does not make a practice of obtaining
deferments for its employees. I also informed Mr. Lukens that the
Presidential appointment of the Katzenbach Committee had effectively
taken the entire matter out of the Agency's hands and that 31 December
1967 is a close-out date for financial assistance established by the
President.
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5. Mr. Lukens said he was in no way critical of Agency involve-
ment in these activities and was glad to know that consideration had earlier
been given to their termination, uttering his belief that it is unrealistic to
assume that the Agency could engage in activities of such magnitude without
being found out and without a resulting set back of our overall intelligence
effort. He seemed to fully appreciate that these activities were imposed
outside of the Agency; that the risk of exposure is ever present, and that
organizational professionalism, including compartmentalization, minimize
the effect on other activities.
6. Lukens said that he was being besieged on this CIA/NSA issue
from both the "left and the right." He personally feels that the NSA'ers
have greatly overplayed their contributions to the Government and would
like to have some written statement which he could use in puncturing
their balloon. He said most of the questions in his 16 May letter had been
sent to him by two students; but admitted that he, Lukens, had seeded it
with a couple of his own. He explained that he has been anti-NSA for a
long time and that he has a deep personal dislike forl because
as instrumental in stacking the deck against Lukens and others
Val years ago forcing Lukens to appeal to Ray Bliss, of the Republican
National Committee, for funds, all of which would have been unnecessary
hadia.cted fairly.
u7. I gave Lukens a copy of the Katzenbach report and a list of
the membership of the Rusk Committee. I also gave him a copy of the
Fascell hearings on H. R. 7484 and a number of the bills which have
already been introduced to encourage private participation in international
activities. Mr. Lukens thanked me for the material indicating his interest
in providing for a nonpartisan mechanism to finance such activities.
8. Lukens appeared genuinely appreciative of our efforts and of
our problems. However, he asked that we again review his letter to
determine whether we can possibly give him a written response. I said
I would take it back for a further review but that I really didn't believe
anything positive would ensue. He agreed to review the material I had
given him in connection with my thought that possibly it may contain
satisfactory and usable answers for his purpose.
9. I advised I lof these developments and he said
he would have review the letter with particular emphasis on
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the cl~-im that, "A Frederick Houghteling (sp?), now serving as an attorney
for CAB, claims he received $12, 000 in 1950 when he was executive secretary
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for the National Students Association." and be back in touc.
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