CONVERSATION WITH CHAIRMAN DAVID N. HENDERSON, SUBCOMMITTEE ON MANPOWER AND CIVIL SERVICE, COMMITTEE ON POST OFFICE AND CIVIL SERVICE, REGARDING S.1035 (CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF FEDERAL EMPLOYEES)

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP71B00364R000100080028-9
• Release Decision: RIFPUB
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• Document Page Count: 4
• Document Creation Date: December 20, 2016
• Document Release Date: October 19, 2006
• Sequence Number: 28
• Publication Date: June 10, 1968
• Content Type: MFR

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1 June 1968
ME O4"L .NDUM FOR THE 1 ECOi
1 . ECT. Conversation +it.i Chairman Ravi
Berson
vice,
ce and Civil Service,
1. This afternoon, M.Y. Warner and I mot with Chairman
Henderson, Charles Johnson (Chief Craned, House Post Office &ad
Civil Service Committee), Mr. "rands T. Matchett (Investigator,
House Post Office and Civil, Lerv ce Comn-Attee). and Mr. Bun Denton
Bray (staff Director of the Manpower ubcoz ittee).
by explainint "I. the Director wished
upcor ,h hearing and to assure Mr. headersor
stive. 'u a said that the Director
u to appear, and we would appreciate
accusations that the Agency's attitude
Aid we wanted to be sure of avoiding
coming as possible.
occasion,, and wanted to be as forth-
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.1035 (Constitutional tights of
or his staff could give us so that
r'* presentation would be r4 t nsive to such questions ss
k -which h developed in connection with Senate c+ side
have in mind. V7e also referred to an unfortunate nos-
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ption. l weaver, he explained that for Po
press for some legislation and,
,or the Agency was. cancer wtd. would prefer that the Director
y request it. U the was desired, rather than leave to ?.
on the responsibility of initiating it. f,., Henderson explained
ad a politic l problem in that he could not afford to be eccuved
by his opponent of act s py rttn
support, in his district.
4. Mr. Hcinderson said that
or other person of tees choice.
problem would be for Chair x Rivers, House A. zmod c.rvicera
mfttee, to appear before the v ,npowex Subcommittee and state
that he opposed the application of the bill to CIA.
S. Mr. Henderson read to us pas ages from a draft on his
desk and said he planned to introduce It tomorrow at which time we
would get a, copy. Among the points he mentioned in reviewiu
draft were the following-
apply to applicants for a C )vex tent
;y are fair game").
provide that any person brought up for
disciplinary hearing shall have the right of co sei
c. A Covernm t employee shall have
any lawful activity and assocl ion consistent with
rployee can appe
t which hales the authori
presentation, the
on both IS,.
be cons de reed by the
hope that the language contained i
ion or undue de
e Civil Service
cy should be prepared to
aderson proposal., Both
:njoys strong
is H nderson's
his bill may be eubstltuted
for the language pre.-ae.ntly contained in S. 103:
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h. Mr. Henderson feels that the Agency should prepare a fal;
sitton in the event complete exemption is not possible J.
this might take the form of vesting in the
Preside authority to designate excepted agencies or activities.
per
cir3
7. response to our question, r. Henderson said that he
onally had no objection to the use of the polygraph in proper
stances, bit observed that for our on protection it might be
ep a record of exactly what was said in order to defend
against charges of in-tproper questioning.
Mr. Henderson indicated he would be west as Kapp)
e, lam felt con pell4d to give the- appearance of
ed on and no legislation was passed, but because
s apparent cw
by which the Director was bound.
sihility to terminate the employment of
veer this was necessary in the interests
y for protecting intelligence sources and
any requirement to publish or disclose
tea, etc., of the
certain
d certainly support a request tima.
10. response to a further cluesti
:ion but would prefer that we forma
n said that
ducted in
ector. Be cautioned that even in executi session
aks and the Director should
of leaks no serious damage
would rest. He also suggested that a Director caution the sub
co=rPAttee regarding the sec rity problem, and Mr. Henderson
said be would support anything the Director said on this score. Mr.
Henderson brought up the question of a. reporter, and we said this could
aged if necessary.
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:tl. During the course of oar discussion, Charles Soh tson
id that he had aver herd any complaints by CIA personne
they apparently had the best machinery for handling
bncy.
Y
gislativr Counsel
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