WATCHDOGS OVER CIA DEMANDED EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. PAUL G. ROGERS OF FLORIDA

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The study. was jointly sponsored by the
Protestant-supported Community Service
Center, the Roman Catholic Mother Butler
Center and the mayor's committee.
Particular interest in the religious affilia-
tions of the Indians in the community has
made the study significant to a number of
churches in the community.
Results show that those admitted to
church membership, 227 families named the
Roman Catholic Church, 114 the Episcopal
Church, 15 the Congregational Church, 11
the Presybterian Church, 9 the Methodist
Church, but none claimed membership in the
Indian Native American Church.
There were 43 families that spoke of mixed
marriages and 10 adherred to various Pente-
costal groups.
The census was part of a study begun by
Father White in 1957 when he interviewed
160 Indian families inRapict City.
Since then he has spent considerable time
here in conjunction with his work in soci-
ology at St. Louis University in Missouri.
Support for the census and for a related
study among, the non-Indian families in the
city has come from the National Institutes
of Mental Health, Bethesda, Md., and help
in the actual canvassing was given by indi-
viduals from various organizations, includ-
ing the American Association of University
Women, the two church centers and the
mayor's committee,
The complete report on the entire study
will be presented in a book Father White
is compiling. Publication Is due in 1965.
Watchdogs Over CIA Dema`n
EXTENSION OF REMARKS
of
HON. PAUL G. ROGERS
OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, November 14, 1963
Mr. ROGERS of Florida. Mr. Speaker,
I have continually called for the estab-
lishment of a joint congressional com-
mittee to oversee the CIA and our other
intelligence agencies. Since the begin-
ning of this year when I introduced
legislation in the form of House Joint
Resolution 211, which would accomplish
this objective, I have called on Congress
to act on this matter. The people of
America are concerned over the un-
bridled activities of the CIA, and the
news media has joined in this concern
by pointing out time after time the
hazards of an unscrutinized intelligence
community.
I fear that the CIA sometimes seems
to embody the fiction of an Ian Fleming
novel-however, intelligence information
is fact, not fiction, and should be dealt
with accordingly.
It is clear in my mind and apparently
In the minds of several of our colleagues
who have joined me in introducing legis-
lation to provide for a "watchdog com-
mittee" over the CIA, that there is a
need for a joint congressional committee
whose sole function is to oversee the
activities of the CIA and our other In-
telligence agencies.
At this point in the record, I would like
to insert a recent article from the Los
Angeles Times entitled "Watchdogs Over
CIA Demanded," written by John H.
Averill:
WATCHDOGS OVER CIA. DEMANDED-LAW-
MAKERS ASSERT THEY HAVE RIGHT To CHECK
ON AGENCY
(By John H. Averill)
WASHINGTON,--Speculation on the role of
the Central Intelligence Agency in South
Vietnam's coup d'etat has revived congres-
sional demands for a special watchdog com-
mittee to keep an eye on the spy agency's
activities.
There have been ainular demands in the
past, particularly after one of the CIA's U-2
spy planes went down over Russia in 1960.
The demands got nowhere.
However, advocates of a congressional
watchdog committee sav that more and more
Members of Congress are becoming con-
cerned and demanding that something be
done. The CIA was established by Congress
in 1947 under the Defense Unification Act
and given broad authority in the intelligence
field overseas.
POINTS TO RIGHT
"I think that Congress has a right to know
if the Nation is getting its money's worth
from the CIA," said Representative PAUL G.
ROGERS, Democrat, of Florida, one of the more
persistent backers of efforts to create a joint
Senate-House commitee on intelligence
activities.
As things now stand, only a select handful
of Senate and House Members even know
how much money the CIA gets. Estimates
range from a half billion to a billion dollars
a year.
It is this handful which most strongly op-
oses creation of a watchdog committee.
most influential Members of Congress, such
as Representative CARL VINSON, Democrat,
of Georgia, the powerful and crusty chair-
man of the House Armed Services Commit-
tee, it has been able so far to stave off the
watchdog committee proposals.
NO NEED 56EN
VINsoN, chairman of a special nine-man
Armed Services Subcommittee on Intelli-
gence, declared he sees "absolutely no need
for a joint committee."
"We know what the CIA is doing," VINSON
said in an interview. "We know what goes
on and we are satisfied. With the operations of
the CIA."
He noted that the House Appropriations
Committee also has a special subcommittee
headed by Representative GEORGE H. MAHON,
Democrat, of Texas, to pass on CIA appro-
priations and that the Senate has a similar
six-man group made up of members of its
Armed Services and Appropriations Commit-
tees.
"I've been around here for 49 years," VIN-
SON said, "and I'm satisfied the CIA is getting
sufficient congressional supervision."
This view is challenged, however, by some
other Members of Congress in both Houses.
SAYS HE S IN DARK
"We are working in the dark," said Repre-
sentative JOHN V. LINnsAY, Republican, of
New York, "or at least in the semitwilight."
LINDSAY and Roams are among 15 House
Members of both parties who are sponsoring
resolutions to create either a joint commit-
tee with the Senate or a special House com-
mittee to keep a constant eye on CIA activi-
ties.
"I think we are gathering more support all
the time," said RoGERs, "particularly after
the debacle in Cuba, rumors of CIA foulups
in Latin America and reports that the CIA
was involved in the Vietnam affair."
ROGERS, while emphssirdng he was not
quarreling with the Armed Services or Appro-
priations Committees argued that an ade-
quate job of checking CIA activities cannot
be done by anything less than a full-time
committee which has no other function.
"There must be a continuing watchdog,"
he said, "not only of the t :.: but of the
Defense Department intellige community,
too, and there must be a co: L. cut review of
how intelligence inforr?iation coordinated
and evaluated.
"Any agency of Governm' t that is not
carefully watched can rievelo practices that
would not be tolerated if the:}- were open to
careful and responsible congr:-; ional review.
"I'm not saying the CIA I:1s developed
these practices. We just do t know. If it
hasn't it would have nothir :o fear from
congressional review. But tb-ra is mistrust
and concern in Congre,?e abr the CIA and
if we had a joint committee v, ? could allay
these suspicions and restore rrfidence."
ROGERS' views were sccond?:d generally by
Representative H. ALLEPr.SMIT Republican,
of California), a former F'li agent who
worked on several World W, r fl espionage
cases.
SAYS FBI IEPOR'i
"The CIA is no more secret 11 Q, the FBI,"
SMITH said, "and the FBI gih,s Congress all
the information it requ. sts, p't: out annual
reports on its aetlvitie a, anc' 1 is Congress
know how much money it nec s and spends.
SMrrH said it was bee' -use cc 01 the secrecy
that he opposed a bill passes; by the House
last week to, authorize more 1 A.ral retire-
ment benefits for CIA agen :,. involved in
hazardous assignments.
In opposing the bill, i>Mrrs +:a id it was his
guess that Soviet Premier N _kira S. Khru-
shchev "and even the Russiar Smbassy here
in Washington know more ab' x,, CIA than I
do."
SMITH in an interview said is was not ad-
vocating release of any seer, information
that might harm national see ri+.y or jeopar-
dize a CIA agent's life.
"I just think we have a responsibility,
since we vote the money, to k..o.v how many
employees the CIA has, what they do, what
the policies are, if any, and w!,echer the job
is being done as it should be,`- 3 'IITH said.
POINTS TO DANGEH;
This view was challenged by ?e )resentative
GERALD R. FORD, JR., Rep- iblica sf Michigan,
a member of the House Apprr?,rations Sub-
committee on Intelligence.
"I see no need for any speei. ' +ommittee,"
FORD said, "I know of no inst =I. a where we
have requested information tl at. it has been
denied.
"The CIA is. a lot more con Aicated than
the FBI. It is involved 3 operations
throughout the world and they ouid be real
dangers to expose the CIA to i 't;ei scrutiny."
FORD agreed that perlu ps he _% id VINSON's
subcommittees could do more ::, allay con-
gressional suspicions about tie. CIA by ap-
prising their colleagues of som, i t the infor-
mation the subcommittees obi A:r.
"The trouble," he said, "is