CONVERSATION WITH MR. SAM PAPICH OF FBI RE ERVIN BILL

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP72-00337R000100120080-7
• Release Decision: RIPPUB
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• Document Creation Date: December 19, 2016
• Document Release Date: March 17, 2004
• Sequence Number: 80
• Publication Date: February 6, 1969
• Content Type: MFR

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6 February 1969
M FOR THE RECO
SUBJECT. Conversation with Mr. Sam Papich of FBI
re Ervin Bill.
1. in a phone conversation this afternoon Papich told me
Dove Bowers, who handles the Bureau's congressional relations,
had talked to Chairman Henderson of the House Committee on
Manpower and Civil Service of the House Post Office and Civil
Service Committee. According to Bowers, Henderson was most
concerned over the reintroduction of the Ervin bill in the Senate
and mentioned that he would like to talk to me about it in the near
future. Henderson said he was "in a box-' since he couldn't oppose
Ervin openly. However, he plans to see Ervin privately in the near
future and try to persuade Ervin to accept some sort of amendments.
]railing this Henderson may take up the matter privately with Senators
Russell or Stennis. Papich says the Bureau is much concerned over
the probl=em and some of his colleagues are trying to got Mr. Hoover
to call personally on Ervin, but Papich doubts that he will do so.
There is also the possibility that Hoover may be willing to write a
personal letter to Ervin.
2. Papich asked what we were doing about the problem, and
I told him that we had discussed it with NSA who reported that DOD
didn't seem inclined to take any initiative. I said we were trying to
get in touch with some of the White House legislative liaison people.
I said that our maximum objective was to got a complete exemption
but if this fails we were considering a fall back position authorizing
the President to designate certain Agencies or activities as exempt
from application of the bill.
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3. Papich said this sounded like an excellent idea and
suggested that the Bureau might want to mention it in some of
their discussions on the Hill. I said I thought this unwise for
the present, explaining that we would rather first take a close
reading on the prospects for a complete exemption.
4. In closing Papich and I agreed to keep in close
touch on the matter in the future.
JOHN M. MAURY
Legislative Counsel
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