JOURNAL - OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL - 6, 9, 10 MARCH 1970

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• Publication Date: March 10, 1970
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6. (Secret - JGO) Received a call from Mr. Arthur Kuhl, Chief
Clerk, Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who requested that the
transcript of the Director's testimony of 28 October be forwarded to the
Committee for use during the day on Wednesday, 11 March.
7. (Secret - GLC) Following the Director's briefing of the Joint
Committee on Atomic Energy, 19 copies of the Director's prepared statement
were returned to the Agency. One copy is being kept by the Joint Committee
reporter for the transcription of the record.
8. (Confidential - JMM) Called Boyd Crawford, House Foreign
Affairs Committee staff, to say the Director would have problems with an
appearance before the Committee on Monday or Tuesday, 16 or 17 March,
and in any event was anxious to discuss the whole matter of whether he
should appear, and if so under what ground rules, with Chairman Morgan
and Representative Adair at their convenience. Crawford stated he would
try to arrange a time with the Chairman and Adair and advise.
9. (Internal Use Only - JMM) and l accompanied
the Director and Messrs. Duckett and Clarke who appeared before the
Joint Committee on Atomic Energy. See Memo for Record and transcript.
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14. (Secret - JMM) Accompanied the Director and 1A
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The discussion centered mainly on Laos but also touched on the problem of
briefings before other congressional committees. See Memo for Record,
15. (Confidential - JMM) Met with Chairman L. Mendel Rivers,
House Armed Services Committee, and explained our problems in connection
with the request of the House Foreign Affairs Committee for a briefing on Laos.
I said the Director proposed to meet privately with Chairman Morgan and
Representative Ross Adair to try to persuade them that, in view of the
upcoming appearance of Secretary Rogers and Secretary Laird and the
President's recent statement on Laos, an appearance by the Agency would
not be necessary. Rivers said he felt this was about all we could do, adding
that he had high regard for Chairman Morgan, in whom we could place
complete confidence.
16. (Secret - JMM) Met with Carl Marcy, Chief of Staff, Senate
Foreign Relations Committee, and called to his attention the fact that
the transcript of the Director's testimony before the Gore Subcommittee on
2 March 1970 had apparently been taken apart, since when we picked it up
on 4 March the pages were reversed. Marcy called in Art Kuhl, who handles
security matters for the Committee, who confirmed the reversal of the pages
and explained how the transcript had been handled. Marcy directed Kuhl to
investigate the matter thoroughly.
17. (Confidential - CEA) Jay Sourwine, Chief Counsel, Senate Internal
Security Subcommittee, called to re nity to obtain as
a witness Afte ecking with
IDC, I informed ourwine that but that
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12. (Confidential - JIM) Boyd Crawford, Staff Administrator,
House Foreign Affairs Committee, called in response to my call to him on
Friday to say the Committee had scheduled Secretary Laird to testify on
Laos on Tuesday, 17 March, and Secretary Rogers on Thursday, 19 March,
and would like to have the Director appear on Wednesday, 18 March. I
told Crawford that the Director wished me to see Chairman Morgan and
raise the question of whether, in view of the President's recent statement
and the appearance of Laird and Rogers, an appearance by the Agency would
really be useful. Crawford said Morgan still had not returned from the
weekend, but he thought the Chairman would wish the Director to appear
primarily in order to ease the pressures exerted by several Committee
members who are demanding the full Laos story.
After checking with the Director I called Crawford back to say that
the Director was not available on Wednesday, 18 March and suggested
Friday, 20 March. Crawford said he would take this up with the Chairman,
and undertook to arrange a meeting between the Chairman and me this
afternoon to work out details.
Following the Director's briefing of the CIA Subcommittee of House
Appropriations, I met with Crawford and tried to arrange a date for the
Director to meet with Chairman Morgan and Representative Ross Adair
(Ranking Minority Member) regarding a possible appearance before the
Committee. Chairman Morgan was not available, but I explained to Crawford
our reasons for hoping that our appearance could be avoided.,
13. (Confidential - JMM) Received a call from Mrs. Gwen Lewis,
Executive Secretary to Senator Len B. Jordan (R. , Idaho), who said that
Senators Cranston and Church had been making speeches and getting headlines
in Idaho papers about "14, 000 or 15, 000 Meo tribesmen on the CIA payroll. "
According to Mrs. Lewis, Jordan, on the basis of the President's statement,
has been denying this allegation, but wishes reassurances that he is not getting
out on a limb. I suggested she try to get her answers from the White House.
She said she had called Ken BeLieu, who was out of town, and "Tappin"(phonetic)
in Defense who referred her to "Colonel Palmer" who referred her to CIA. I
said I still thought the answer should come from the White House and suggested
she call Bill Timmons there.
After checking with the Director, I called Mrs. Lewis back to say we
wanted to be helpful but definitely thought the Senator should. get details from
the White House. However, I said the "numbers game" was tricky and the
Senator would be well advised not to be drawn into it. Mrs. Lewis said she had
just talked to the White House and been told that the number of Meos on the CIA
payroll was 8, 000. I repeated that this question of numbers. was tricky business,
and said the figures might vary depending on what yardstick was used and what
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(Secret - LLM) In response to his call of Friday, advised
J. Sourwine, Chief Counsel, Senate Internal Security Subcommittee, that 25X6
we had information which corroborated his understanding that
8. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Mr. Walter L. Morgan, Special
Assistant to Senator Peter H. Dominick (R. , Colo. ), called on a constituent
suggestion that search teams be established in Vietnam to buy information
on U.S. airmen downed in South Vietnam. After checking with 1A
who in turn checked wi the ~ 'Ice
of JCS Special Assistant for Counterinsurgency and Special. Activities, it
appears Dominick's office should be in touch with Colonel D. B. Cochran,
11-55805, and I will so inform Morgan when he calls back tomorrow.
9. (Confidential - LLM) Mr. Robert Horner, House Internal Security
Committee staff, called and suggested that we meet with Chief Counsel
Donald Sanders and himself at 10:30 on 12 March for further discussion
on and the procedures to be followed. See Journal of 3 March 1970.
10. (Internal Use Only - LLM) J. Sourwine, Chief Counsel, Senate
Internal Security Subcommittee, called and asked for such information as we
can provide on I told him we would
check and be back in touch.
11. (Unclassified - JMM) Received a.call from Roger Majak,
Legislative Assistant to Representative Jonathan Bingham, regarding the
Democratic Study Group's invitation for the Director to appear before them
on 10 March to discuss Laos. I told Majak that in view of our policy of
discussing Agency operational matters only before appropriate formal
congressional committees, we unfortunately could not respond. Majak
requested a letter or telegram to this effect.
After checking with the Director, I called Majak back to say that we
preferred to handle matters of this kind informally and orally rather than in
writing. Majak said Bingham would probably be upset because both State
and Defense Departments had begged off, and Bingham might call the
Director personally.
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12. (Confidential - JMD) Mr, Boyd Crawford, Staff Administrator
of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, called to ask the Director to
appear before the full Committee during the week of the 16th of March,
in executive session, on the situation in Laos. Mr, Crawford said that
Secretary of State Rogers and Secretary of Defense Laird have also been
asked to appear that same week. Mr. Crawford was advised this would
be checked with the Director and we would be back in touch with him.
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8. (Secret - JGO) Met with Mr. Ralph Preston, on the staff of
the House Appropriations Committee, who gave me a letter from Chairman
Mahon to the Director concerning an appointment to the Special Committee.
I briefed Mr. Preston on the following items:
a. Friction between Egyptian military and
Soviet advisors;
b. Soviet air shipments into Egypt during the
week;
c. Logistical and other limitations on Communist
forces action in Laos;
d. Soviet Hen House radar.
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9. (Secret - JGO) Met with Mr. Daniel Manelli, on the staff of
the House Investigative Subcommittee, House Committee on Interstate and
Foreign Commerce, and received from him a copy of the rough draft of a
Committee report on investigation of CBS news programming policies.
Mr. Manelli requested, if possible, that our review be completed and the
draft returned early next week.
10. (Secret - JMM) Accompanied Chief, FE Division,
who briefed Chairman John Stennis, Senate CIA Subcommittee of Armed
Services, on the situation in Laos. Senator Stennis, who had requested the
briefing yesterday, was particularly interested in getting reassurances that
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summarized the history of our Laos involvement, the policy authority under
which we had acted, the numbers of our personnel involved, our casualties
to date, and the present military situation.
11. (Unclassified JMM) With the Director's approval I called
Representative Lucien Nedzi to say that the Director regretted that he could
not accept the invitation of the Democratic Study Group to brief them on the
Laos situation on 10 March. I explained that this involved Agency operational
activities which we felt could properly be discussed only with appropriate
congressional committees, and not with other groups. Nedzi said he fully
understood this and that in extending the invitation he had been. under the
impression that the matter had already been cleared with the Agency. He
asked that I explain the matter to Representative Bingham who had joined Nedzi
in extending the invitation. I called Representative Bingham's office but found
he will be in New York until Monday.
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