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; Approved For Release 2001/11/15 : CIA-RDP731300296R000300240016-6 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD ? SENATE sin would per- it? rretionary al- iO for a IT- ! !I ta-1 CC in those ? ? :loss ion is too small hasis for corn- !, rdlowance for the esalercil red lesislation, the \illicit are at pies- N' will be a ppli- This will represent an IF !wire rates for re- fare the effect of in- ner:, the range of the lusher rates to the ,i its I vitiations allowimees for trustees , d, with this proposal, ranee in which the or are applicable .iierease in the custodial iumecessary for the the duties of the re- fairly compensate him ! increases would ripply ?v cases initiated subse- , ,tstment of the proposed ? t.:11 was approved by the of the United States . ? sse r 1178 session r. BURDICK: ? ? A bill to amend section 35 of lc:. Act 01 U.S:C. 63) and ? c '1 and 634 of title 28, United .!e, to permit full-time referees .,0 efey to perform the duties of 4 o-trate. Referred to the Corn- - -n 110 Judiciary. ie. fit'IWIel{. Mr. President, I intro- .if IC apprepriate reference, S. 1396, t1 the Bankruptcy Act to permit e referees in bankruptcy to per- -i eir detics of a U.S. magistrate. ; :e Magistrate i Act, approved 17, 1968, 82 Stat. 1107, provides the approval of the Judicial e.e.rence of the United States "a part- esse referee in bankruptcy?may be ap- e ted to serve as a part-time magis- eve," rind authorizes the Conference to ? the arsregate amount of coinpensa- i. to be received for performing the s.ers of part-time magistrate and part- t??,e re:eree in bankruptcy" 28 U.S.C, 414 ate however, does not authorize fiel-tane referee in bankruptcy to per- t'.n the duties of a part-time U.S. mag- 'r-te. In addition, section '35 of the " edikruptcy Act, pertaining to qualifica- ts :is for referees in bankruptcy, provides In part that an individual shall not be f g;ble for appointment as a referee tal!e?,.1 he is "not holding any office of mflt or emolument under the laws of Mr United States or of any State or sub- e:11,1nn thereof other than conciliation centrals:dotter or special master under tilt% title," Exceptions to this provision are made only in the case of a part-time referee in bankruptcy. In the design and organization of the new system of U.S. magistrates two clif- f:C.11121es have arisen which would be ameliorated in part if a full-time referee in bankruptcy were authorized to per- tone the duties of a U.S. magistrate. First, there is the problem of a "back- up" for a magistrate who ,is ill, or tem- porarily away from his station on busi- ness or vacation. Some courts have re- quested authority to appoint a second part-time Triarristrate at sonic locations at a nominal salary to arraign defend- ants and set bail in the absence of the regular maeistrate?a function which a full-time referee in bankruptcy might well perform. Second, certain language in the Magistrates Act and in the Bank- ruptcy Act seems to prohibit a court from combining a position of part-time ref- eree in bankruptcy with a position of part-time magistrate, in order that it may have one full-time officer rather than two part-thne officers. It is the view of the Judicial Conference of the United States and its Committees on Bank- ruptcy Administration and the Imple- mentation of the Federal Magistrates Act that it would be in the interest of good judicial administration to permit full-time referees in bankruptcy to per- form magistrate duties and to authorize a full-time combination pQsition of ref- eree in bankruptcy. orirms By Mr. CHURCH: 131. A bill to amend the U.S. In- for a ion and Educational Exchange Act of 1948 to impose restrictions on in- formation activities outside the United' States of Government agencies. Re- ferred to the Committee on Foreign Re- lations. PROHIBITING THE UNITED STATES FROM ENGAG. /NG IN PROPAGANDA ACTIVITIES FOR FOREIGN G0VET444MENTS Mr. CHURCH. Mr. President, last year the Committee on Foreign Relations held a series of hearings on the operation of U.S. advisory and assistance programs in Vietnam. The hearings revealed a great deal concerning the nature and ex- tent of our involvement in the internal affairs of that country. Today, I wish to discuss briefly one of the most insidious of those programs and to introduce legis- lation to cOrrect the underlying policy. I refer to the propaganda services which, our Government renders on behalf of Vietnam. Traditionally, American citizens have viewed with great suspicion anything that suggests the creation of an official Government information agency. And rightfully so. They realize that Govern- ment information programs cannot be divorced from political propaganda de- ? signed to serve partisan or personal pur- poses. Germany's experience under Goebbels lingers in the American mem- , ory. Yet in Vietnam the U.S. Information A , which was created to promote etter understanding of our country abroad, is now engaged in a massive canign, tigfrid eve1oiQ.LIJae nom.- mithicEtion ar7;-WeErliqi Thieu Gov- ernment to the people' o nam. iTh-TrirrttitIVTATMTITi of radio, and news- papers, magazines, and leaflets by the tens of Millions, the USIA is teamed up with military psychological warfare specialists to inflict on the people of Vietnam the kind of -official propaganda system that we refuse to allow in our own country. It is the ultimate corru0- , UI S 3975. tion ill a war which has for years now eroded the moral sensibilities of our Nation. Our Vietnam polieynifil:ers under both Presidents Johnson and frown have .as- sured the American people that all we seek for South Vietnam is the ? right of "self-determination." But is "self-deter- mination" really possible ae long as tile United States spends millions of dollars . hi promoting the interests of the govern- ment in power in Vietnam, doing every- thing possible to convince the Vietnamese - people that the Thieu government is their friend and protector? When the Vietcong and North Vietnamese -view the magnitude of the U.S. propaganda and aid effort in Vietnam, there is little Wonder that they are skeptical about repeated promises of free elections.: I think my colleagues are generally aware of the importance of the mass media in election campaigns. Doe: anyone believe that opposition candidates, assuming that genuine opposition candidates are allowed, will be given penal time and treatment on Vietnamese radio and television or in the other US-financed Information programs. when the basic purpose of all these preerams has been to win the Vietnamese people over to the Thieu government's side. It is all very well to coil for free and open elections; it is an :appealing slogan. But when it conies to specifics as to who controls the campaign machinery, the mass media, and the election process, "free and open" is lit ely to look very much like "government controlled." Lack of credibility as to U.S. intentions has always been a major oroblern in com- municating with the other side. The con- trast between what is said by our Gov- .ernment concerning free elections and what, we, in fact, do in promoting the in- terests of President Thieu demonstrates that the problem is far from being re- solved. The United States should make it clear to all concerned that it will take a strictly neutral position in the coming election in Vietnam. To do so it must gear its activities to aiding the people, not the government. One of the most obvious ways to demonstrate neutrality Is to cease assisting the Thieu govern- ment on propaganda programs. ' Mr. President, since 1 was first elected to the Senate, I have told the people of Idaho that I would hot, support legisla- tion which would authorize the Federal Treasury to pay the Campaign expenses of nationally elected officials. I do not feel that the taxpayers of this Nation should support my campaigns or the campaigns of others for public office. I feel even more strongly that our Nation's taxpayers should not Provide support to foreign political leaders in their attempts to gain favor with their own people. / ask unanimous consent to have printed in the RECORD following my re- marks the transcript of the Foreign Rela- tions Committee hearing of March 19, 1970, concerning USIA operations in Vietnam. Nowhere in that act is there authority, direct or indirect, for any gov- ernment agency to engage in a propa- ganda coin tgri 1lLWn a foreign zovernment,ing, the people, it governs. The simple feet' is Approved For Release 2001/11/15 : CIA-RDP73600296R000300240016-6 ov? - Approved F that the U.S. Informat assumed authority not by the Congress. I am introducing today a bill that will correct some of the abuses revealed in the hearing last year. The bill contains two simple provisions: First. .It prohibits the U.S. Informa- tion Agency, or any other U.S. agency, from assisting in the preparation or dis- semination of information for a foreign government: and Second. It requires that the USIA imprint, or the imprint of the appropri- ate agency, appear on any publication prepared for distribution abroad. The testimony last year revealed that the USIA has published a number of prop- aganda booklets in English concerning . Vietnam?but without any mark as to their origin. The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. AL- LEN). Without objection, it is so ordered. (See exhibit I.) Mr. CHURCH. Mr. President, the Smith-Mundt Act, the basic statutory authority for operation of the Govern- ment's overeas information programs, states that the objectives of the act are "to enable the Government of the United States to promote a better understanding of the United States in other countries, and to increase mutual understanding between the people of the United States and the people of other countries." Mr. President, it is a sign of the times that the hearing which revealed the ex- tent of U.S.I.A.'s selling efforts in behalf of the Thieu government failed to bring any appreciable public reaction. Appar- ently, the war has so numbed the Amer-. lean conscience that it is incapable of being shocked further over anything in- volving Vietnam. One of the most tragic aspects of the war is that we seem to have lost our capacity for indignation and out- rage over mill continued involvement in 8 lame-duck war which has never in- volved our vital interests. The use of our taxpayers' millions to package and sell the Thieu government, like a bar of soap, to its own people, is the ultimate hypoc- risy. It should be stopped. EXHIBIT 1 VIETNAM: POLICY AND PROSPECTS, 1070?U.S. ASSISTANCE ON INFORMATION MA1TERS AND U.S. PSYCHOLOGICAL OR PROPAGANDA OPERA- TIONS, THURSDAY, MARCH 19, 1970 '110 CHAIRMAN. The next witness is Mr. Edward J. Nickel. Swearing in 01 witnesses Mr. Nickel, in keeping with the procedure followed in the, previous hearings involving personnel brought back from Vietnam, in order that I allow no partiality in this mat- ter, I will ask you and your as.sociates who may be called upon to testify to be sworn at this point. Would you please stand and raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear that the testimony Which you are about to give will be, to the , best of your knowledge, the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you-Clod? Mr. NICKEL. I do. Mr. OSBORNE. I do. Mr. hays. I do. Tile CHAIRMAN, You have a prepared state- ment, I believe. Mr. Nickel? , Mr. Nicatlas I do, sir. The CHAIRMAN, Would you proceed, please, sir. Jease igency has Irred on it hiftte4.1diMkoFvelde1614pA.obS54100/itoo16-6 aupport and our production of media mate. rials is reduce U. But, In the category 0; printed materiel, the GVN In the near future will not be ante to take over all of els e present production. We believe this situ- tion will be pertially offset when the rad:- , and television networks are completed and when more Vietnamese Information Service personnel have been trained in face-to-face communication'techniques. We are plantar./ now to increase this type of training. 1,4,1 , TESTIMONY OF EDWARD T. NICKEL, DIRECTOR, JOINT U.S. PUBLIC AFFAIRS orrIcse, SAIGON, "' AND OTIS E. HAYS, OFFICE OF USIA ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR EAST ASIA AND PACIFIC Mr. NICKEL. Mr. Chairman, I would like first to described briefly the office in Saigon which I head, It is called the Joint U.S. Pub- lic Affairs Office or JUSPAO. This Office, which was established in 1905, Includes American military and civilian personnel and Its functions are: To provide policy gnidance for all U.S. psychological operations in Vietnam. To provide media materials in support of U.S. policy in Vietnam to the U.S. Informa- tion Agency for use in third countries. To perfom the normal USIS cultural and Information mission. To provide assistance to the Government of the Republic of Vietnam (CIVN) to Im- prove its public information programs. Assistance provided by JUSPAO I will confine my statement to a descrip- tion Of this last funotlon. JUSPAO's efforts in this regard can be grouped in four cate- gories: First, assistance in the construction and operation of mass media commtmication facilities including the national radio net- work and the national television network. Second, assistance in the improvement of personnel, training, organization, method- ology, and the equipping of the Ministry of Information's field organization called the Vietnamese Information Service (VIS). Third, assistance in the production of in- formation materials by the Government'a mass media and by the Vietnamese Informa- tion Service. Fourth, assistance through joint planning and joint production of information mate- rials by JUSPAO and the Ministry of In- formation to support the Government's pael- fleation and development programs. Additionally, Mr. Chairman, JUSPAO indi- rectly influences the psychological warfare activities of the Vietnamese Armed Forces because we provide policy guidance for psy- chological operations to the U.S. Military Assistance Command (MACV) which assists the Vietnamese Armed Forces in this field. These categories of assistance cover a wide range of cooperative efforts to which the U.S. Government and the GVN contribute staff, funds, and equipment. 'rho number of personnel and the amounts of money con- tributed. by each side have varied from year to year. However, in the last year and a half we in JUSPAO have begun to establish ter- fallial dates for several assistance operations. and to transfer greater responsibility for others to the Government of Vietnam. This process is related to the overall effort to re- place tile U.S. contribution to the war efrart with an increased Vietnamese contribution. Reduction 01 JUSPAO contributions JUSPAO is presently In the process of de- fining specific reductions in its cbistributions of personnel, money, and equipment. By the end of the current fiscal year American civilian positions will be reduced by 31 (from 132 to 101); America9 military positions by 11 (from 118 to 187); Vietnamese positions by 42 (from 385 to 343); third-country na- tionals by eight (from 12 to 4). As the GVN absorbs more of our currently joint opera- tions, more American positions will be elimi- nated. Our support in the information field should be completely terminated by the middle of 1972. Sonic projects will be completed ear- lier. For instance, the terminal date for the television project ,is June 1971. Radio con- struction will be completed in the spring of 1971. However, technical training needed to operate the new radio network will require an 4 --additional year. ? Our role increasingly will become more and more an advisory one as our financial For some time the GVN has lacked trained and experienced personnel needed to mist& effective information programs. Our trainin- programs and .ropport have helped alleviat; this problem to some degree. However, =int of those trained have been drafted for mili- tary service. Mass communications skills MI: I continue to be in short supply in Soulb Vietnam for S01116 time. . 1970 pacificati,,n and development program Lately the CIVN has manifested an increas- ing understandmg of the importance of de- veloping better lines of communication with the people, especially those in rural areal ; The 1970 pacification and development pro. gram expresses this awareness by making the goal of establblilng an effective informa- tion system one of its eight national ?bye. ? titres. The rea1123tion of that goal could make an important contribution to successful cow- munication between the Government and the governed. Other objectIses of the 1970 plan are de. signed to encourage increased participation by citizens in the governmental process and to encourage local initiative. Among the substantive programs of the plan are land reform; elections at the local provincial, and national levels; recruitment of citizens in local militia forces with arms provided by the Government; and Govern. ment grants of village self-help funds to be used for development projects the villagers themselves desire. A large part of the GVN Information effort in 1970 and U.S. support for it is being eevoted to publicizing these programs and encouraging the South Viet- namese citizens ;;o participate in thein. I would like to describe some Of our assist ance projects aid to indicate our plans for reducing them IS the GVN assumes increas. lag responsibility for them. U.S. ossistance In radio Between the years 1952 and MIL the Us. financed the puiebaso of low- and medium' power radio transmitters to help the GVN to set up stations to various parts of the Coon' try or to Increase the signal strength of existing station? The cost to the Untied States of this .equipment was about ill million. Australia contributed a high-powered station through the Colombo plan. However, the eellection of stations WM never quite a retwork and its range was still inadequate. its the pace of the wnr stepped up 5 year; ago, the United States began a project ,inied at providing the GO with all integra tea radio network callable of reaching 95 perrent of Vietnam's popula? Lion, rather tithei the .95 percent possibly reachable with '.arying quality signals and programing thro,igii the then existing group of stations. Feasibility studies were followed by preconstruction architectural and engi. fleeting studies. These were almost com- pleted when the 19,18 Tet attacks took place In those attack:. transmitters at Hue and 'Ban Me Thing, v.,.,re badly damaged as were studios and oth,r installations in Saigon and Qui N hon. As a result of those attacks, the United States and GVN iii-eideci against construct' lag a 12-station network in favor of a net- work of four stat ions of highel power. This change was dictated by security and matt' power considerations. It was felt it would be easter to protect lour installations than 12, and also to staff them. The coverage of the Approved For Release 2001/11/15 : CIA-RDP73600296R000300240016-6 - Approved For Release 2001/11/15 : CIA-RDP73600296R000300240016-6 Xiarch `29, 1971 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD ? SENA'lli pi-ambition would be the same in either ense?more than 05 percent. That four-station network is now being built and will be complete 1 year from now A cost of SPproximately $6.8 million in at U.S. funds. Technical training for operation And maintenance of the new network will continue for 1 year after construction is com- pleted. An additional sum equivalent to about $1 million in GVN-owned but jointly controlled counterpart funds is being used in the proj- ect. The rest of the GVN contribution to this rect one, largely in the form project is an Mtn of its budget for radio operations, includ- ing the salaries of a staff of 464 personnel. In itatti, that budget was the equivalent of Shout. $750,000. This !Igor? has increased steadily in the past 5 years. This year the budget is the equivalent of about $1.7 mil- "NIL We believe the quality of programing has improved during that period. More and more the GVN officials concerned with radio have become aware of the concept of providing a wilco to the people. This has resulted In in- creased use of radio broadcasting to engender participation by the people in Government programs ranging from land reform and im- proved agriculture to self-defense. U.S. assistance in ielevision In 1066 the United States agreed to In- etnil a four-station television network In Vietnam. The ?GVN was committed to fur- nishing land, buildings, staff and an op- erating budget. Telecasting initially was for 1 hour night- ly to the Saigon area from an airborne trans- mitter. Now ground stations in Saigon, Hue end Can Tho are on the air an average of 4 hours nightly. Between Saigon and Hue an airborne transmitter provides coverage for the coastal area, By early 1971, a fourth round station?at Qtiti Nhon?will have re- placed the sir operation. The U.S. cost will total about $8.0 Million when we phase out of the operation by July 1, 1071. GVN counterpart funds amount- ing to the equivalent of about $2 million pale for land and building costs. In addition,. the romnal operating budget of GNV televi- non has risen froni the equivalent of about. $400,000 including salaries of 17 employees in 1966 to More than double that amount in. chiding salaries of 139 employees in the current year. The CHAIRMAN. Could I ask for a point of Information? Do the GVN counterpart funds arise from American imports? Mr, Nicicsis In the original Instance; yes, sir. Time CHAIRMAN. Is there any real distinc- tion in their impact upon American costa between GVN counterpart funds and $1 Mr. NICKEL. The difference, of course, air, would be that they are not directly appro. printed funds, The Ciiniamars. No; but the total cost really is American; is it not? It Is not GVN. It is American costs expressed in two differ- ent ways, Mr. Moans It would be derived from the commercial import program. The CHAIRMAN. OK. Mr. Nicast. A rigorous program of train- ing in the difficult TV skills is being carried Dill. under contract by the National Broad- casting Co., International. Most of the train- ing is on vite in Vietnam. However, six en- cinders who will constitute the GVN super- thin engineering staff are being trained in the RCA Institute in New York. We estimate there are now 300,000 TV re- ceivers In Vietnam, with a viewing audience et about 2 million. Many sets are outside the roles in the heavily populated flat delta region where the signal Is particularly good. Of the programs presented by the GVN'a TV network, less than 10 percent are Ms .1 ported, Ninety percent of the programing Is locally produced, either live or on film or tape. As with radio, the television medium is used extensively to explain GVN programs ? to the people. last September the GVN be- gan a weekly program caned "The People Want to Know," during which officials and ' other leaders are interviewed by journalists In the f6rmat of "Meet the Press." MS. assistance to Vietnamese Information Service &major part of our assistance is directed to the operation of the Vietnamese Informa- tion Service. This is the field arm of the Ministry of Information, with officer staffs at corps headquarters cities and In all prov- bleen and districts of the country. Starting this year, the Ministry began an intensive training program for additional personnel at the village and hamlet levels. As these new lower level personnel are trained, they are now being placed sander the operational con- trol of the village and hamlet chiefs with program support coming from district and provincial VIS offices. ? The job of the VIS is to use a wide range .of information amd psychological techniques to. support GVN programs as prescribed in guidances from the Ministry in Saigon. The techniques include the publication of dis- trict newsletters and province newspapers, leaflets and palters; the relaying of news and commentaries and the playing of prerecorded .tapes over loudspeaker systems in village and hamlet centers; the showing of motion pic- tures; visits to families in villages and ham- lets to discuss GVN programs affecting them; ...the distribution of national magazines and other Materials received from the Ministry and JUSPAO; and the sponsoring with other local officials of campaigns, public meetings, exhibits and artistic and cultural presentations. From fiscal year 1955 through 1967, the United States contributed rm average of $497,000 in dollar funds annually to equip the VIS with audiovisual equipment, the vehi- cles, the office machines, and other materials , necessary to Garry out these programs. In the succeeding 3 years the dollar expenditure for this program has been $187,000 in 1908, $85,000 in 1969, and $60,000 In the current year. In the last 2 years we have gradually transferred to the GVN full responsibility ' for maintenance and replacement costs for this equipment as well as for the operation of repair centers. During the same period, an average of the equivalent of $200,000 annually was used for the VIS from GVN counterpart funds. We do ? not have adequate figures for the GVN's budget for the VIS prior to 1964. However, ? from that year to the present the budget has . averaged about the equivalent of $6.4 mil- lion annually through 1970. The 1970 budget Is about the equivalent of $15 million, a sub- stantial increase over previous years. The CHAIRMAN. What caused that? Mr. Morse:is To a large extent, sir, an in- crease in personnel, but there was also a real ? increase in operations. There was a large ' Increase in local personnel with the improve- ment of hamlet and village information pro- grams, U.S. Contact With VIS Contact with the VIS Is maintained both in the field and in Saigon. In the capital it is the function or several elements of JUS- PAO. In the field it is carried out by 81 American civilian and military advisers lo-' cated in 34 of the 44 Provinces. These ad- visors are detailed to the U.S. Military As- sistance Command CORDS program and are under the operational control of the Prov- ince senior arWisers at the Province level and the U.S. Command elements at the vari- ous corps headquarters. Just as the VIS chief is required to participate with the province chief and other GVN officials In planning andoperating GVN programs, so S 39`i our CORDS psychelogisal operations staff perform a similar fund t ion within the U.S. province team. The pro, ming of edifice and mipport to the provincial VIS operation is the principal duty or I lu se American pay- ehoLgictal operations prrsonnel. Thus, the American structure for informa- tion operations parallel in broad outline that of the OVN, permitting a degree of co- ordination at all levels Efforts' to Improne Epieicncy of VIS The efficiency of the VP; varies from place to place. Where key official': are dedicated and competent, operations are generally effective. And there are it numbef o: these. Where they are inot well motivated and energetic, the programs stiffer. And there are some of these also. In the past year. two new approaches have been undertaken tiy the Ministry of Information with our soperation to try to improve the efficiency af the VIS. These are the, planning of a cosimehensive series of training courses for various levels of VIS personnel rind the regolar holding of joint meetings of Saigon anti field personnel, visually on a corps area basis. We believe these two measures have heti and will continue to have a good effect on the VIS operation. During the current year, we will use the emilvalent in counts, part funds of about $63,000 to support the training program. We are also providing tfie assistance of one American adviser to help develop course ma- terials JUSPAO' s Liaison With. Ministry IV ? In/ormai ion JUSPAO's liaison with the Ministry Itself takes many forms. Al the top, I meet fre- quently with the Minister and his senior staff. At the planning level, JUSPAO policy officers meet daily With Ministry officials to plan joint campaigns, instructions, and guidances to media producers and to Reid personnel. On the media production side, our writers and editors work together in the publication of magazines, pamphlet., posters, loudspeaker tapes, and radio prosrains. I have tried, Mr. Chiiirrnan, to describe here the evolution of son's. of the current major ;programs we are conducting to assist the GVN in the information and psycheilogical fields, In the expansion of these programs ?over the years, the American contribution has been substantial. So has the Vietnamese con- tribution, In the past 2 years, a considerable portion of the load the United States was carrying has been shifted to the GVN. We plan to continue moving in that direction. Thank you, sir; that it the end of my state- ment. The CHAIRMAN. Thank you, Mr. Nickel. How long have you been in charge of this program, Mr. Nickel? Mr. NICKEL. Two rtars, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Do you live in Saigon? Mr. NICKEL. I do, sit. Magnitude of USIA rffort in South Vietnam The CHAIRMAN. I believe you said there were 132 Americans under your Immediate direction; in that correct? Mr. NICKEL. We are reducing this year, sir, by 31 positions from 132 American positions to 101 American positions. The CHAIRMAN. Is that in the office in Saigon or how extemsive,is this? Mr. NICKEL. Those are civilian USIA officers, some serving in Salem and some in the Pro- vinces. I should add that we also have Ameri- can military personnel serving with JUSPAO, sir. The Cnantivists. Y4 ,11 mentioned that in the Provinces you have limitary advisers who aro Americans. Is that right? Mr. Nicitzt,. We hive some civilian advisers in the provinces but the bulk of them are military, sir, The CHAIRMAN. To get some idea of the magnitude of the effort, take the present Approved For Release 2001/11/15 : CIA-RDP73600296R000300240016-6 L! ' Approved For Reltiats4 fiscal year of 1970. Ts It correct to say that the civilian positions are 132 or 101? Mr. NICKEL. 101 civilian positions, sir.. The CHAIRMAN. That is in the current year. Mr. NICKEL. Fiscal year 1070. The CIIAIRMAN. HOW many of these military advisers are assigned to this work? Mr. NICKEL. We have 107 military spaces in JUSPAO, sir. The CHAIRMAN. 208 is the total American personnel? Mr. NicKm. 208 is the figure, sir. The CHAIRMAN. What is the size of the budget for the USIA operation in Vietnam? Mr. NICKEL, The USIA budget for Vietnam; sir, is $6.4 million. The CHAIRMAN. Is that for the year of 1970? Mr. NICKEL. For fiscal year 1970; yes, sir. The'Cusiitsassf. Does that include construc- tion or is that only support of the personnel? Mr. NICKEL. That is the USIA component of the budget, sir. Construction would be funded by an AID component of our budget. I will give you these add-ons. We also have $2,4 million funded by AID and $2.1 million .funded by the Department of Defense, to make a total budget available to me for ,JTJSPAO'S operations of $10.9 million. The CHAIRMAN. Would that include the pay of the military men to whom you referred? Mr. NICKEL. It does not include military salaries. However, it does include USIA civil- ian salaries. The CHAIRMAN. The military salaries would be in addition then? Mr. NICKEL. They would be in addition, sir. . The CHAIRMAN. Do you have any estimate of what that would cost? Mr, NICKEL. I have no estimate, but I could furnish it for the record. (Tile information referred to follows:) Pay and allowances of military in JUSPAO (The military pay and allowances, as re- ported by the four Military Services whose personnel are involved, amount to $1.2 mil- lion.) The CHAIRMAN. What I am trying to get and what we are interested in is the total cost of this overall operation. It is the usual basic material that we would like to have. Mr. NICKEL. I Could furnish the informa- tion about military pay, sir. Military personnel working in propaganda field - The CIIAIRMAN. Do these personnel figures Include the personnel in the military units not associated with USIA who work in the field of propaganda? Mr. NICKEL. They do not, sir. The 'CHAIRMAN. Do you know , how many people are in that? Mr. NICKEL, May I furnish that, sir. I' have it, but I cannot put my hands on it. The CHAIRMAN, Yes; you can ?furnish it. Could 'you give a rough estimate that you can correct later? Mr. NICKEL. Sir, I now have the informa- tion. In 1970 there are 761 U.S. military psyops filed personnel and 50 serving on staff or as advisers to the Vietnamese, for a total of 811. The CHAIRMAN. That is very much larger than your own operation; Is it not? . Mr. kbeleyi.. That is right, sir. Mission of Juspao The CHAIRMAN. This brings, up a further question. What do you consider to be the mission of your operation? What are you try- ing to accomplish? Mr. NICKEL. My priricipal mission, sir, is to assist the Vietnamese Government in devel- oping and conducting an effective program of ? communications. The CHAIRMAN. Your mission is to assist the Vietnamese Government to create a sys- tem of communications? It that it? Mr. Nicitsii,. To assist the Vietnamese Gov- ernment in developing a means of communi- cating with the electorate and to provide technical and professional advice. 2ti`thYMI:ktIAt-060Lhi3-tiogeliba6300240016-ej ren 29, 1 9 a A The CHAIRMAN. What leads You to believe ministry of information I Would also sug- gest that in Vietnam, as in Many other de- veloping societies, th, re do not exist any strong commercial or nongovernmental media. The CHAIRMAN, Mr. NICKEL, I am quite aware that it is not unique. In every dictator.. ship I know of they have a ministry of in- formation just like this. But we are told, on the one hand, thai lee are seeking to es- tablish the government of self-determination and this leaves the impression we are racking to establish a demise' as ic System there. I quite agree with you that information agencies are typical. They were typical of Hitler's Germany and typical of nearly every dictatorship and authoritarian government I know of, but I would not have thought we would be a party to helping construct such a governmental apparstus. Mr. NICKEL, Are ther not also some regimes we regard as being democratic that have ministries of informal ion? The CHAIRMAN: Whit, for example, would be one from your point of view? Mr. NICKEL. If I am not mistaken, is there not a French Ministry of Information? The CHAIRMAN. I wouid not know. Is there one in Sweden, whits is a country that I think has achieved a high degree of democ- racy or self-determination if you like, or Eng- land? I do not recall that in England they have a minister of information whose job it is to sell 'the peopl.e of England upon the merits and virtues of that Government, I do not recall ever having hoard of it. France has recently gone through a rather unusual evolutionary period, almost revolutionary. under De Gaulle, of emrse, and France may be an example. I would not want to say for sure. I do not know that GVN closing of private newspapers that the purpose of ou,r Government in es- tablishing the USIA was to create an agency to create a. means of communication for a foreign government? Mr. NICKEL. I would answer that Mr. Chair- man, by stating that my operations are re- sponsive to the instructions and directions I receive from the Director of the U.S. In- formation Agency and from the American Ambassador ill Sitigon. The CHAntmsis. Then you Would charac- terize your mission to be to carry out orders. Is that the right way to put it? Mr. NICKEL. In my position; yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. You have no idea what the real mission of this operation Is other than to carry out orders? Mr. NICKEL. I know what my instructions are. Authorization of Joint U.S. Public Affairs Office Mission Questioned The CHAIRMAN. This is a matter. I think, of considerable interest. Let me refer to sec- tion 2 of the basic legislation creating this operation: s. "The Congress hereby declares that the ob.. jectives of this Act are to enable the Govern- ment of the United States to promote a better understanding of the United States in other countries and to increase mutual understanding between the people of the United States and the people of other coun- tries." Do you think that language authorizes USIA to create for another country a sys- tem of communications for that government and its people? Mr. NICKEL. My organization, the Joint U.S. Public Affairs Office, Mr. Chairman, was established in 1965 by order of the President. I would suggest that any justification of the suitability of the mission we are performing is something that should be addressed to the people to whom I report. I would be very , happy to address this problem to them. The CHAIRMAN. I think it would be very interesting if you would. You say It was created by Executive order. It was not cre,ated by statute. There is no statute law authoriz- ing you to do what you are doing: is there? Mr. NICKEL. I said that the U.S. Public, Affairs Office was created as a result of Presi- dential directive. The CHAIRMAN. Yes. And in pursuance of that action you have been directed by your superiors to do what you are doing. So you would not wish to undertake to say what tills whole operation is intended to accomplish for the people of the United States; would you? Mr. NICKEL. I believe I said earlier, sir, that my mission in Vietnam was in large measure to assist the Vietnamese Government in de- veloping and improving its means of com- municating with its people. Establishment of M i7liS try 0/ Information questioned The CHAIRMAN. It OCellre to inc that in this country there has always been not only a great reluctance, but aversion, to the croa- The Caturcanx. Coming_ back to a more tion of a ministry of information in our pedestrian subject of the costs, could you Government to Inform our own people. Is tell me what is the average pay of the that not so? American employees or USIA in Saigon? Mr. Meier:L. That Is correct, sir. Mr. NICKEL. Tim average pay for a USIA The CHAIRMAN. Does tile law not speclfl- employee with JUSPAO, sir, including al- lowances, minus 11015 ng, would be about $28,900. '1'110 CHAIRMAN. What is the total cost to the Government of the United States for those employees. in, liming everything? Do they furnish 11005111 -? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, h,atsIng Is furnished, sir. I am tillable to break out that figure for an individual. Do you went the total cost? Th0 CIIAIRAIAN. Perhaps if you could tell mo' your own. What is your pay and what do your allowances amount to? You are the Director? Mr: NICKEL. That is right, sir. How many private newspapers have been closed by the Government of Vietnam during the past year? Mr. NICKEL. I could not give you the num- ber, sir. The Ciimasists. There have been several. Mr. NICKEL. There hava been several clos- ings. The Cnstam.sts. You say there is not a heavily developed prisale sector. It is largely because that Goverriou nt is so sensitive to criticism that they clo-,e the private news- papers whenever the:' criticize the Govern- ment. Is that not a fru t? Mr, NICKEL. There has e been some closings; yes, sir. ? The CHAIRMAN. Do you eVer feel a bit un- comfortable in being alined with a govern- ment which is so clearly an authoritarian government or do you feel perfectly com- fortable in your relailonship with that Roy- eminent? Mr. NICKEL. I have lio problems in perform- ing my job. Th0 CHAIRMAN. YOU have no problems. You feel perfectly al home? Nielevi,. Yes, Sir. USIA pay and allowaincs in South Vietnam catty forbid the USIA to indoctrinate or brainwash, or whatever you want Lq call it, the American people? Is that not so? Mr. Nicasis Clearly, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Are you not creating in Vietnam just such All information agency? The way you describe here what you have done and are in the process of doing, it is to create In Vietnam an agency to enable that Government to control its people through this device which we ourselves abhor in this country? How does this seem to you to be consistent with our own views? Mr. Nicata.. I would suggest, Mr. Chairman, that Vlothsm Is not unique in possessing a Approved For Release 2001/11/15: CIA-RDP73600296R000300240016-6 4iaeh i 4 i Approved For'ReleaSe` bbkVi A 2 ...1/1- : CIA-RDP73130132 The CHAIRmAN.'What. Is your total? What 'rho CHAIRMAN. IS that information no is the total cost to the Federal Government? available? Mr. NICKEL. The combination of my salary Mr. ?snorts/E. It can be made available. Anil allowances, again making 110 provision I do not have it available. 'rho CHAIRMAN. Would you supply it for the record? Mr. ?summit. Yes, sir. (The information referred to follows) ter my housing, Is s45s473. The CHAIRMAN, ring housing? Mr. NICKEL. II011s1 11 g ? The CHAIRMAN. Do they furnish you with Ionise? Mr. Nicker,. I ion furnished with housing, The Ciimanoms. What would be the rea- ssinble cost of the hoose that is paid for the Federal Government? Mr. NICKEL. That is right, the house is paid for by the Federal Government. The CHAIRMAN. How IIII1Ch is that? You (lurid to know that. ? Mr, NICKEL. Let me see if I have that, sir. The CnAmmArs, You have been there for a years. You have no idea what that would Se? isft. NICKEL. My house, sir, is a U.S. Gov- rrnment house. The 'CHAIRMAN. Is IL a good house? Mr. NICKEL. It is -comfortable, sir, ' The CHAnimAN. Was it one that the Gov- ernment built or is it an old villa? Mr. NICKEL. It was there. It is a U.S. Gov- ernment-owned house. The CHAIRMAN. How many houses does the us. Government own in Saigon? Do you know? Mr. NICKEL, I do not know that ansvier, sir. The CHArnmAN. Is it several? Mr, NICKEL. It is more than several. The CriArrimAN, It is more than several. Then I would estimate your total cost would be somewhat in the neighborhood Of it least $50,000. Mr. NICKEL. That would seem right, sir. The CirAntmAN. Are you furnished an auto- mobile? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Are USIA officials In Sal- pm given special pay equivalent to combat pAy for military people? Mr. NICKEL. No, sir. We receive a differen- tial. The CHAIRMAN. What does it amount to?: la it 25 percent? Mr. NICKEL. Twenty-five percent. US. communications assistance to other countries The CHAIRMAN. If our Government decides tint It is proper to furnish assistance in the building of a propaganda operation for Viet- nam, how does it decide in which country to do tills? Is this the only country in which re have done this? Mr. NICKEL. Specifically have done what, Ms Chairman? The CHAIRMAN. Have we created a com- munications system which enables the gov- ernment to, as you say, communicate with its citizens? Have we done it in Thailand? Are we doing It or have We done it in Thai- land? Does the USIA have a comparable eperation in Thailand, may be not on as Iwoa scale but a lesser scale? ? Mr. NICKEL. Certainly, as you say, not comparable in order of magnitude, The CHAIRMAN. Do we have a similar op- eration? Mr, NICKEL. I am not?I personally am not Alrare that? The CHAIRMAN. Are any of your asso- ciates? ' Mr. NICKEL. I arn not aware and I do not think my associates are aware that we are d sits any such thing as building a TV net- wsrk or building a radio network. I cannot Newspapers suspended by GVN front 1968 tldough March 23, 1970 During 1968 the Government of Viet-Nom indefinitely suspended six newspapers. Six- teen others were temporarily suspended, for an average of 35 days per suspension. During 1969 through March 23, 1070, the GVN indefinitely suspended 12 newspapers. An additional 14 received temporary suspen- sions ranging from a few days to almost 11 months, for an average of 46 days per sus- pension. The CHAIRMAN. I 1101.,1Ce in the paper every now and then there is a notice that X paper has been closed by the government. I simply have not made a counting of it, but I am under the impression there have been sev- eral. Mr. NICKEL. I will supply it, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Of course the government controls the supply of newsprint and it is no problem for them simply to cut off the newsprint if they wish to Close a newspaper. Is that so? Mr. Simms Yes. USIA analysis of South Vietnamese public attitudes The CHAIRMAN. Does the USIA, Mr. Nickel, or any other agency attempt to analyze Vietnamese public attitudes periodically? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, AM The CHAmmAN. Have polls been taken? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir; polls have been taken. The CHAIRMAN. How is this done? It is done by you directly or by contract? Mr. NICKEL. By contract, sir. The CHAIRMAN. What organization has done it? Mr. NICKEL. May I answer that, Mr. Chair- man, by saying that I have been informed that you have written the Director of the U.S. Information Agency asking for information about our polling in Vietnam, that this is now under consideration, and that I would prefer to have the information come to you through that channel. ? The CHAIRMAN. I wrote that letter partly to give you notice that this is a matter in which we are interested. I hoped that you would be prepared to answer it this morning. Are you saying that this is a matter that affects our seaurity and that you do not wish to testify in open session on it? " ? Mr, NICKEL. I prefer not to go beyond stating, sir, that we do engage in polling in Vietnam, as in some other countries. Witness' instructions concerning testimony about polling The CHAIRMAN. Have you been instructed to state to the committee that you will not testify in open session on this matter? Mr. NICKEL. I am not able to discuss the polling in open hearing, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Have you been instructed not to respond to questions about polling? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Who instructed you, sir? Did Mr. Shakespeare tell you not to answer such questions? If not, who did? Mr. NICKEL. I have been instructed by my principal. May I have Just one moment, sir? a sail( more directly to the specific programs, The CHAIRMAN. Certainly. You confer with yOUT lawyer if you like. ? Newspapers closed by GVN Mr. NICKEL. In answer to your. question, sir, The CHAIRMAN. Before I leave that, you I have been instructed by the director of Day nid you did not know how many news-, agency.. topers Do either of your associates know The CHAIRMAN. kr. Shakespeare has iii-, Lsw many newspapers the government a structed on this? &seen has closed in the last few years? ? Mr. Nimszr... Yes, sir. Mr. HATS. No, air, ?The CHAIRMAN. What grounds did he give 93o1NPAN9a111991Arql ti reply this question? Mr. Mc:Kers This rpicwf.n is tinder con- sideration as to the ponsila sersurity ele- ments involved, The CHAIRMAN. Possible ? semi ty Involved. You heard the prey10,113 v-itorw;, Coogres8. ma n McCI oskey ; did you no 7 Mr. NICKLI.. I did, sir. The CIIATRmA N. You realt.1,t that thin 11118 SOME RU lb or ty ii the au thoriza- Lino of tile funds for your al,,ny; do you not? Mr. NrcicErs I am very wtsi aware .of .that. The CHAIRMAN. We normsily expect people in USIA to respond to rocritons about Choir operations if they expect t ois committee to authorize any funds for the agency. You real- ize that; do you not? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Dees ME. kespes re real- ize that? Mr. norm- I cannot spe Lk for Mr. Shake- speare, sir, The CHAIRMAN. I want to :nuke It clear that I do not accept your reason for refusing to answer. It is a perfectly les i Ornate question: Yo.0 are engaged in an actisity Which Is very dubious in its authority solder an executive order, in any case, and I think that you should be very careful in r -?Dising to answer questions about these opeostions. I would like to know ho?v much you paid. for example, for a contract to take a poll in Vietnam and see how it compares to polls in this country. Would you he willing to say how much you paid for th?? poll? Mr. NICKEL. I do not believe I am able to, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Who I:W:3 the gentleman who advised you not to ans.ver? Was he sworn . also? ? Mr. NICKEL. The gentle] can with whom I just talked did not advise mo not to answer. The CHAIRMAN, lie did not? Mr. NICKEL. I wanted to check something . with him. He is the General Counsel of the U.S. Information Agency. The CHAIRMAN. 'He did net advise you as to your instructions. It is very unusual. I did not expect you to refuse to answer these questions. One reason Why I sent the, letter inquiring about these Matters was, as I say, to air rt the Agency that We are interested in the poll. When was the latest poll taken? Will you refuse to answer that? Mr, NICKEL. I find myself unable to answer it, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. You mean by saying "un- able" that you do not know? Mr. NICKEL: No, sir, The CHAIRMAN, Do either of your associ- ates know when the latest lion was taken? Mr. NICKEL. I believe, sir, that they are bound by the same instrustions. Witness' instructions concerning subfeet. o/ polling The CHArnmArs, I asked smut if you were in- structed to tell it. There is a difference be- tween your answer if yell know, and are instructed not to tell and if you do not know. I want to make th.i answer clear. On what grounds are you ref Asing to srty when the latest poll was taken" Mr. NICKEL, I run uncle - isstructions, sir, not to discuss this subject. The CHAIRMAN. Then you do know when it was, but you are under ostructions not to discuss the subject. You WO in effect tak- ing the equivalent of the Firth Amendment; Is that correct? ? Mr. NICKEL, NO, The CHAIRMAN. Why is that not correct? You do not consider that the USIA is a sensi- tive undertaking similar to the CIA; do you? Mr. NrcKEL. No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Usually your activities are Open and above board; arc they not? . Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. YOU are not authorized to engage in covert operations; are you? Approved For Release 2001/11/15 : CIA-RDP73600296R000300240016-6 Li ? A_pproved For Release N Mr. NICKEL, o, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Would you be willing to answer this kind of question? What was the poll about? Did it ask about the attitude of the local citizens toward Americans? Mr. NICKEL. I find, sir, in line with my hi- , structions, that I am unable to discuss the subject of polling. The CHAIRMAN. You would not discuss as to whether or not the poll involved the ques- , tion of the extent of the support of the Vietnamese people for the Thieu govern- ment? Mr. NICKEL. I do not believe, sir, in line with my instructions, that I am able to' respond. The CismativrAN. I may say before I leave this subject, this is very unsatisfactory. I regret very much, and I hope you will tell your superior, Mr. Shakespeare, that, speak- ing for myself, I very much regret this atti- tude. This committee is entitled to know what the poll cost, what it asked, and what the results were. This is not a document, it seems to me, that comes under executive privilege. It has nothing whatever to do with the President directly. I mean it is not a confidential docu- ment, It is a matter that is paid for by the public funds of the Government, and the committee is entitled to actually have the poll, in my opinion, and we shall ask for it. I regret he gave you such instructions. U.S. ADVISORY WORK IN TV, RADIO, AND PRINTED MATERIALS 2001/11/15 : elA-RDP7k3B00296R00 In doing all of that, do you still say you do not know whether anything was put out on the Chau case? Mr. NICKEL. If I may offer a brief explana- tion, sir, our relationship with the Ministry would deal with things like support of the pacification program, but Would not consist of liaison in terms of tactical matters. We have never had occasion to discuss the Chau case with anyone in the Ministry. The CHAIRMAN. Did our advisers or did you advise against the public attacks on Chau by the Government media? Mr. NICKEL. I have never personally been involved in the Chau case in any way, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Did any of your employees under your direction give any advice what- ever about the Chau case? Mr. NICKEL. I do not believe so, sir. Again, I wish to state that I myself was absent from Saigon during most of this period, but I be- lieve that they did not. Kinds of advice given to GVN by JUSPAO The CHAIRMAN. Does the Minister of In- formation in Saigon ever ask your advice about the formulation of his Government's public position on major issues? Mr. NICKEL. My discussions with the Minis- ter in line with my own responsibilities, sir, are concerned more with the operations of the Vietnamese Information Service program than with substance. The CHAIRMAN. Then are you saying you do not give him advice about substantive meas- ures; is that right? Mr. Nicitet. My advice is primarily opera- tional. The CHAIRMAN. IS it exclusively? Mr. NICKEL.. No. We might, for example, Mr. Chairman, discuss how best to promote or to conduct Information campaigns In sup- port of the People's Self-Defense Force, and matters like that which fall within the paci- fication and development program. I think I should point out that I am not responsible. Mr. Chairman, for our press operation in Vietnam. That responsibility falls to a colleague of mine who is the special assistant for press affairs to the Ambaseador. As the director of .TUSPAO I do not speak for the Embassy on press affairs. The CHAIRMAN. What is his name? Mr. NICKEL. Mr. Newman. The CHAIRMAN. Is he in Saigon now? Mr. NICKEL. He is in Saigon, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Have you discussed with the Information Minister the South Vietnam- ese refusal to attend the opening of the ex- panded Paris talks? - Mr. NICKEL. I did not, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Did you discuss with him what the official reaction to the death of Ho Chi Minh would be? Mr. NICKEL. We had some discussion with the Ministry of Information about this mat- ter; yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. What was your advice to them with regard to how to treat the death of Ho Chi Minh? Mr, Meant. We agreed, sir, that a maxi- mum effort should be inado to inform the enemy forces in Vietnam of Ho's death. We also agreed that our treatment should be straight information. and that there should not be any exultation in our output to the enemy forces. Advice concerning impact of GNV policy on United States Time CHAIRMAN. Do you or any of your of- ficials ever advise President Thieu or other GVN /Michas on the potential impact in other countries of policy matters, particularly about the potential impact iii the United States of GVN policleh? Mr. NICKEL. I do not advise Vietnamese officials about the impact on the United States or the impact on American public opinion, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Does anyone? Do the U.S. advisers work with the Viet- namese on matters involving TV and radio program content and makeup? Mr. NICKEL. Our advisers work with both radio and TV. They nceassionally are in- ._ volVed in the format of a program. The CHAIRMAN. Do they work with them in the preparation of printed inforination materials? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. Gun media's treatment of Tran Ngoo Ohau case The CHAIRMAN. MS the ease of Tran Ngoo Chau reported over the Vietnamese radio and television stations? Mr. NICKEL. I can only assume it was I would have to retire to an assumption be- cause I was not in Saigon at that particular time, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. Are you familiar with the. Chau case? Mr. RICKEL. I have read about it; yes, sir.' The CHAIRMAN. DO you know Mr. Chisu? Mr. NICKEL. I do not, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Do either of your asso- ciates know whether or not the radio and television stations of Vietnam carried any news about Mr. Chau? Mr. HAvs. No, sir. 'late CHAIRMAN. You do not know? Mr. HAYS. No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. You do not know? Mr. OsuonNs. No, sir; I do not. The CHAIRMAN. Were any printed materials put out by the South Vietnamese Govern- s-tient on this case? Mr. Nostra.. I do not know, sir, I can find out. The CHAIRMAN. In your statement you say "JUSPAO's liaison wills the ministry itself takes many forms." 'Phut Ls the Ministry of . In forma Lim I, ; Mr. Naactffi. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. You say: "At the top, I meet frequently with the Minister anti his senior staff. At the plan- 11111g. 'eyed, JUSPAO policy officers meet daily WI tim MinffiLry omit:ids to plan joint cam- paigns, instructions and guidances to media producers and to field personnel. On the media maim:Lion side, our writers and edi- tors work together lit the publication of mag- azines, pai?pillets, posters, loudspeaker tapes, and radii; prOgiltinii." ell., ? 0300240016-6 . Mr. NICKEL. I pre .usne this is discussed, but not by me, sir. Tho CHAIRMAN. You do not know of it. You , are not aware of any such advice? Mr. NICKEL. Not specifically; no, sir. The CHAIRMAN. You are not aware of any advice that was given to Mr. Thieu or any- one else in the higher echelons of the Oov., ernment as to the possible reaction in this i country of the imprisonment of Mr. Chau? . Mr. NicKEL. As I said earlier, I %YRS not In. , volved in the Chau ease. I do not know. The CHAIRMAN, It would not be 11 sleep : involvement. - Has there ever been any discussion with them about the impact in this country of his imprisonment of Mr. Dzu? Do you know about Mr. Dzu? - Mr, NICKEL. Yes, .Ar The CHAIRMAN. You are aware of who he is? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, -Jr. The CHAIRmAN. 00 you know what hop. pined to bins? ? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, lir. The CHAIRMAN. Ind you ever advise them as to what the reuction in this country is to his inaprisonmerA? Mr. NICKEL. I hase never Advised the Min. later of Information about impact on US- public opinion. , The CHAIRMAN. Do any U.S. personnel ever - assist Vietnamese oilicials in the writing of speeches? Mr. NICKEL. Cert.tInly no one in my ergo- ; nization, to the best of my knowledge. ; The CHAIRMAN, Are U.S. officials consulted ' by Vietnamese offf Arils in the handling of statements that retate to U.S. policy? Mr. NICKEL. I presume so, sir, but not 'within my cognizance so far as my orga? nization is concerned, The CHAIRMAN. You do not know anything 1. about it anyway? Mr. NICKEL. NO, sir. U.S. personnel located at Ministry Information The CHAIRMAN. Are any Americans at. tached directly to he Minister of Intonate tion's office? Mr. NICKEL. We have one or two Americans. Mr. Chairman, who are physically located in the Ministry of Information headquarters building for liaison purposes, They are nd attached directly to the office of the Minister. The CHAIRMAN. WILL,t IS their function? Mr. NICKEL. They perform liaison in tem' , of our overall advisory efforts. I believe thr thrust of your qtesttion ,was whether a11! of my officers are attached directly to tts oflice of the Minister. No one serves direct on the Minister's staff. sir. The CHAIRMAN. There is no such thing an adviser to the Minister of Information? Mr. NICKEL. We have advisers to vitriol:. elements of the Ministry. There is no adviq' to the Minister, sir. U.S. advisers to e,ements 0/ ministry of in /wino tion The CHAIiimAN. tIO not know enos: about it to make t? distinction. Could y. tell Lis the likillnetlt-mCe I pleali advisers to a- clement. What is an cleinelit? It Is 8011; it is hot? Yoh lichilse people; de f' not? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sit. CHAinmAN. VVI.Dt do you mean k that? Mr, NICKEL. We :',usve advisers who svci With the radio network. We have advhes who work with the IT network. The CHAIRMAN. What do they do? Mr. Nicasa... We nave advisers who Wol. With the Viettiaines, information Service The CHAIRMAN. About whist do they advs.' them? Du they not ale vise them about 1.17 policy? Mr. NICKEL. Most 0. their advice, airc concerned with improving operational . ? Approved For Release 2001/11/15 : CIA-RDP73600296R000300240016-6 SC 8. I ti Approved For Rele eleifey of the varlous elements of the Infor- mation Ministry. The CHAIRMAN. How do you improve the efficiency without any attention to the sub- stance which they are using? Do you mean to say they are concerned only with the tech- nical Operation of the broadcast system? Mr. ancreet, No, sir. With respect to the Vietnamese Information Service, for example, our advisers would be concerned with dis- cussing with their Ministry counterparts how best, for example, lo support and promote the various objectives of the pacification and development program. Handling of lliglai massacre The CHARMAN. How has your Agency han- dled the Mylei massacre theme during the past several months? Mr. NICKEL. JUSPAO, sir, has handled the Mylai incident by taking the position that a serious investigation is underway by the U.S. Government and that if a crime has been committed, the U.S. Government will try tho personnel concerned. In other words, we have not in any way attempted to be evasive. We take the position it is under investigation And we have to wait and see what the in- vestigation reveals. The CHArnmAN. What has been the posi- tion of the Vietnamese information Service regarding these incidents? Mr. NICKEL. I think the Vietnamese Infor- mation Service position has been very simi- lar to ours, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Did the USIA or other American advisers offer advice to the Gov- ernment of South Vietnam about the han- dling of this matter? Mr. NICKEL. Our policy people in JUSPAO .discussed it with the policy people in the Ministry of Information with respect to the guidance that should be given to the psyop media. The CHAIRMAN,' Did the Vietnamese Gov- ernment play down the incident as being of little importance? Mr. NICKEL. It has been treated in the Vietnamese press. I am unable to say myself whetter the Vietnamese Government played it down, sir. It certainly has been mentioned In the Vietnamese media. The CHAIRMAN, Would you say diet it had been emphasized or was it deemphasized as a matter of great significance? Mr. NICKEL. It certainly has not been em- phasized, sir. Treatment of Communist massacres at Hue The CHAIRMAN. How has the USIA treated the Communist massacres at Hue in the pro- tram aimed at the Vietnanieso people through leaflets, newspapers, or television? Mr. NICKEL. We have dono our best to assist the Vietnamese in telling the story of the massacres at Hue, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Has the USIA itself in its own pamphlets, newspapers and programs emphasized the massacre at Hue? Mr. NICKEL. We in JUSPAO have provided material to USIA for use by USIA posts in other countriers, sir. North. Vietnamese Affairs Division of JUSPAO The CHAIRMAN, What Is tho function of tho North Vietnamese Affairs Division of .11:6PAG? Mr. McKim, The North Vietnamese Affairs Division of JUSPAO, sir, is a staff ()Mee which reeks to keep abreast of the propaganda de- velopments involving tho North. It is con- eemed with release to the media of certain enemy documents. It also releases material et A more general nature about certain en- my attitudes, activities, and. practices, lOyeactfogical operations against North Vietnamese The CHAIRMAN. Are any psychological Op- erations being carried out against North Viet- nam at the present time? Mr. NICKEL. With respect to the operation, that I am responsible for, sir. I know of WM? lag but radio broadcasting. as 2001/11/14 ? CIA-MPUB9inp6Rw.oaQ.Q24QQ116,6, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Some of it is, presently. Mr. NICKEL. Yes. Radio Free A: fa Tho CinvertmAte. Do you have anything whatever to do with RAW,' Pate Arita? - Mr. NICKEL. No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Did you ever hear of it? . Mr. NICKEL. I think I have I am not sure of the title. The CHAIRMAN. Do you 1, now. what it is? Do you know where the broadcasts come from? Mr. NICKEL. No, I do not. Tho CHAIRMAN, Do they not come from Korea? Mr. Memo.. I personalty am not familiar with that. Mr. CHAIRMAN. To your knowledge, can you hear them in Vietnam? Mr. NrcicEL. I am not awure of that. The CITATRmAN. you can, you do not know it, Mr. NICKEL. I do not. The CHAIRMAN. I do not either, but we have seen these letters solic?tiog clonatione to Mello Free Asia. They state that they beam radio programs all over Asia. I do not know that they may specifically Vietnam. I do not know whether they do either. It came to my attention a few weeks rm.). You do not know whether you make any contribution to that operation or not. Mr. NICKEL. We make 110 contribution, sir. GVN spending on psycnodogical warfare The CHAIRMAN. Do you know how much ' tho Vietnamese Government spent on their psychological warfare en -she current year and last year, either one or both? Mr. NICKEL, Yes, sir. Tho Ministry of infosmation, sir,. in its current fiscal year budget is spending $19.7 million. The CHAIRMAN. $19.7 million? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Is that budget this current year, 1070? ? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. . The CHAirtmAN. Is that Up or down? What was it compared to lost year; do you know it? Mt NICKEL. That is up. sir. Last year it was We million, sir. The CHAIRMAN. From $9 to 419 million in 1 year?. Mr. NICKEL. That is right, sir. . The CHAIRMAN. How do you account for such a large increase? Mr. NICKEL. I believe I mentioned earlier, sir, that there was a sizable increase in per- sonnel which accounted for a good part of this increase from $9 to $19 million, but not all of it. There was al. o a substantial in- crease in program money. The CHAIRMAN. How much of that do we furnish, directly or indirectly? Mr. NICKEL. The $19 million which I cited, .sir, Is from the GVN's regular budget. There etre no counterpart fume; in that. The CirAntmAN. Do you know how much Is planned for next year? . Mr. NICKEL. No, sir. JUSPAO budget for fiscal year 1971 Tho CHAIRMAN. Do you know how much ? you have or are planning for fiscal year 1971 for your operations? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. We plan to have a budget figure of Sat sir. The CHAIRMAN. For nest year? Mr. NICKEL. Next year. The CHAramAN. That a,sain does not in- clude the military or any allied? Mr. NICKEL, It does not include the mili- tary, although It does include, as I believe you are aware, the AID and DOD funds that are available to JUSPAO. nonsfatmoss or rrEas, "THE SILENT sassoarrs" XN VI NAM The CHAIRMAN. Has the film, The Silent Majority" been distributed in Vietnam? The CHAIRMAN. Mere RI' 0 P. being made of printed material? Mr. NICKEL. That is correct, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Have there ever been any made in the past? Mr. aricKEL. Yes, sir. The Omuta/AN. Could you give a brief de- scription of their magnitude and purpose? Mr, NICKEL. I could supply that for the record, sir. I cannot describe the magnitude of them since they were discontinued some time ago. The CHAIRMAN. When were these ME drops terminated? Me. NICKEL. At the time of the bombing halt, air. Tho CHAntmAN. They ran coincidentally with the bombing in the north; that right? Mr. NICKEL. They took place at the same time. They were not. operationally? The CHAIRMAN. No, I mean they went on at the same time. Mr. NICKEL. And they were discontinued at the same time. (Tho information referred to follows:) Beginning in 1905, propaganda leaflets were released from aircraft operating over North , Viet-Nam, or were dropped over waters out- side the boundaries of North Viet-Nam and wind-drifted into the country. Until March 31, 1068, this program was designed generally to convince North Viet-Nein?both people and reginac--the North Vietnamese aggres- sion in South Viet-Nam would fail, to mo- tivate North Viet-Nam to seek peaceful set- tlement of the conflict, and to warn the peo- ple to stay away from military targets be- cause they were subject to air strike. At its peak, the program involved some 25 million leaflets per month. Following the partial bombing halt an- nounced on March 31, 1968, leaflet targets were restricted to those south of 20 degrees North Latitude. The primary objective of these leaflets was that of keeping the people in the area aware of efforts by the Govern- ment of Viet-Nam and the United States to - bring about a negotiated settlement of the Conflict. After the total bombing halt of November 1, 1968, the leaflet program over North Viet- 'Nam was terminated. Cost of U.S. propaganda operation In Vietnam Tho CHAIRMAN. I am not sure this question has been quite clarified. Is it fair to say your operation in all phases of tho information, psychological warfare program in Vietnam costs approximately $10 million? Did you say it cost about 810 million? Mr. NICKEL. I said that the money that fell Within my area of responsibility was $10.9 The CHAIRMAN. It does not include the military? Mr. NicKais It does not include the mili- tary. The CirAmmAN. The military I remember now you said had 800 people against your 81? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. I guess if yours 113 $10 mil- lion, theirs is $80 million, Is it fair to say we spend $80 million or $100 million on prop- aganda? Mr. McKim. I would hesitate to answer that. e 7'1 C1 IAIRMAN. What? Mr. NICKEL. I would hesitate to even specu- late on what the oost Is, sir. Tho CHAIRMAN. Would you venture guess? Mr. NICKEL. I just have no base on which to make such a judgment. The CitintmArr. We would like very much to have an idea of the total wet. Of course, I realize the Pentagon has an enormous pro- paganda operation in many places far greater than yours. I'wondered whether you could give an estimate. Radio broadcasting beamed to the North Did I understand you to say that radio broadcasting is not-beamed to, the North? t t,. Some of it is. Approved For Release 2001/11/15 : CIA-RDP73600296R000300240016-6 ? ? The CHAmmAAPPqatieillyRfarliablipaSe '?Mr. NICKEL. We made it available to Viet- namese television and to the National Mo- tion Picture Center of Vietnam. /t was shown on the GVN television network and In commercial theaters. The CHAIRMAN. Would you estimate how , many Vietnamese have seen it? Mr. NICKEL. I will supply an estimate, sir. ? (The information referred to follows:) NUMBER OF SOUTH VIETNAMESE WHO HAVE SEEN "THE SILENT MAJORITY" In South Vietnam, the GVN's Ministry of Information (MOI) Was the sole distributor of the film "The Silent Majority." MOI esti- - mated that 1.2 million persons saw the show- ings of the film on the national television network, and that an additional 300,000 urban viewers saw the film in theaters in six major cities, for an overall total of 1.5 mil- lion. The CHAIRMAN. It would be apparently a. very substantial amount. Have you any measure Of public reaction . ? to that film? Mr. NICKEL, Wo did not undertake any specific evaluation. The CHAIRMAN. Has anyone that you know? Mr. NICKEL. I am not aware that anyone did. USIA POLLS CONCERNING ATTITUDES TOWARD UNITED STATES The CHAIRMAN. Coming back for a moment, it inspires me to ask a further question about the polls. Have you been Instructed to decline to discuss the polling In Vietnam or all polls?any poll in any other country? Mr. NICKEL. Well, the only polling that would come within my purview would be that in Vietnam, sir. The CHAIRMAN. The USIA takes polls In other countries; does it not? ? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. They are about public at- titudes toward the United States and its policies? That has been a practice for a long time; has It not? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. You do not know about them and cannot testify about them; is that right? Mr. NICKEL. When I say I do not know about them, I mean that I just do not know in detail anything about them and obviously could not speak to what they were about, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Were you in the USIA be- fore you went to Saigon? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. The CHAntmAN. Where did you serve before that? Mr. NICKEL. In Japan, sir. The CHAIRMAN. In Japan? Mr. McKim. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. While you were in Japan, did you take polls there? Mr. NicHnf., Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Are you at liberty to dis- cuss the polls you took in Japan? Mr. Nit:HET...No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. You are Instructed not to discuss them; Is that it? Mr. NrcHni,. I am Instructed not to discuss polls. The CHAIRMAN. It 18 very unusual. Where did you serve besides Japan? ? Mr. NicnEr., I have served in Burma, and I have served in Washington, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Did you take polls in Burma? Mr, NICKEL. To the best of my recollection, I do not believe we did, but that was some years ago, The CHAIRMAN. You do not believe you did? Mr. NICK EL. I just. cannot give you a defini- tive answer. Is USIA taping proceedings? Tho CHAIRMAN, Is the USIA taking a tape of those proceedings? Wiltni1gdwilaypif3turrneR0 The CHAIRMAN. You would know if they are: would you not? Mr. NICKEL. Let us lust say that / am un- aware if they are. The CHAIRMAN. I wondered how efficient they were in reporting all these matters. Publication of "Vietnam Today" How many newspapers, magazines or other periodicals does the United States publish or print that are aimed at Vietnamese and'. ences? Mr. NICKEL. We publish, Mr. Chairman, or should I say we assist the Vietnamese in publishing, a pacification newssheet, a weekly called "Vietnam Today," in 600,000 copies per issue. The CHAIRMAN. 600,000? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Is that a newspaper type of publication? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. 600,000 copies are pub- lished weekly? Mr. NICKEL. 600.000 copies. The CHAIRMAN. IS that given away? What happens to it? I was interested. Mr. NICKEL. It is given away, sir. It in dis- tributed through the Vietnamese Informa- tion service and it is more or less a vehicle for the Central Pacification and Development Council. In others words, it concentrates on developments in the pacification field. The CHAIRMAN. It is printed in Vietnam- ese? Mr. NICKEL. Printed in Vietnamese, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Is the cost of printing that a part of your budget? Mr. NICKEL. The printing cost Is part of my budget. a week to put out 600,000 copies of that? The CHAIRMAN. What would It cost Mr. NICKEL. $2,400. The CHAIRMAN. Where is it printed? Mr. NICKEL. Printed in Saigon, sir. Part of It?I might say that half of the printing now is handled by the Ministry of Informa- tion and half is handled by the USIA. The CHAIRMAN. Does the USIA haVeitt printing plant in Saigon? Mr. NICKEL. JUSPAO has a small printing plant. The CHAIRMAN. JUSPAO. Is it large enough to print this? Mr. NICKEL. This Is not printed entirely by JUSPAO. Half of the circulation?in other words, 300,000, sir?is printed by the Ministry of Information printing plant, and the other half by JUSPAO. The CHAIRMAN. Who determines the ma- terial that goes into this publication? Mr. NICKEL. Most of the editorial work on this newspaper now is done by the Ministry of Information, sir. Publication of "Free South" The CHAIRMAN. There is another news- paper called "Free South." Mr. NICKEL. That is right, sir. The CHAIRMAN. IS it published biweekly? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. The CHAntmAN. How many of those are published? Mr. NICKEL. This is published in an edition of 1.3 million copies. It isa small 0 by 10 sized newspaper. It Is air dropped into con- tested areas. blislied twice a 'rile CHATRMAN. Benin' pu Week that 2.0 million a week: is that coereet? Mr. NICKEL. I lull sorry, sir; it is published every 2 weeks, not two a week. The CHAufmAN. EVery 2 weeks? Mr. NicHea..,Every 2 weeks, sir. Publication o/ "Ilural Spirit" Tho CHAtitmAr,r. I notice hero another ono called "ittleal Spirit." Are you familiar with that? Mr. Nam EL. Yes, air. The CilAnimAN. What is that? Desoribe it. Ie it a inegazine? O309M0031610e Vietnamese name for ura p rit is Huono; Que. It is a magazine ? R designed largely for rural audiences, and It . is to a great extent agricultural in its ap. proach. It has a Ilonthly circulation of 565,000, sir. The CHAIRMAN. How many pages is a typi- cal issue of that mage.a..e? Mr. NICKEL. Thirty. six pages. The CHAIRMAN. Th;rtv-six pages. le it slick paper or what? Mr. NICKEL. No; It I . not slick. The CHAIRMAN. IS it a picture magazine? Mr. NICKEL. It has some illustrations, but it is not basically a picture magazine. The CHAIRMAN. Wier" is it printed? Mr. NICKEL. It is plated In Manila at our regional service center The CHArRmAN.PrIt,t.ed in Manila? Mr. NICKEL. At the U.S. Information Agency Regional Service Center. We have , a large printing plant there. USIA printing plant in Manila ? The CHAIRMAN. Do we have a large printing plant there? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir, The CHAIRMAN. What service? . Mr. NICKEL. It serees for. the most part, air, USIA posts in th? East Asia and Pacific area. ? Size of eireiaat "Rural Spirit")/ Fr ee South" and ,R The CHAIRMAN. Would you say that the Free South newspaper has the largest cir- culation of any newspaper in Asia outside of Japan and mainland China? Mr. NICKEL. Well, it is a magazine. I just would not be able to make that judgment. It has a very high circulation, if you discount Free South vrhich?are we talking about ? Huong Que? The CHAIRMAN. Tale both of them. One is a newspaper and one is a magazine? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. The 'CHAIRMAN. Woidd you say they have the largest circulation of their kind, both magazine and newspa Aar, in Asia outside of Japan and mainland China? Mr. /Mita,. I could not make that judg- ment. They certainly are the largest in Viet- nam. The CHAIRMAN. You do not know of any that is larger; do you? Mr. NICKEL. I do not ?mow, sir. USIA printing plant in Manila . The CHAIRMAN. Did you answer the ques- tion of what countries the printing office In ? Manila serves? Does it. serve all countries in Asia? Could you tell us how large that oper- ation is? Mr. NICKEL. It exists to provide backstop- ping for our USIS posts In Asia, Mr. Chair- man. If you would like specific information on tho plant, I shall seu that tile appropriate parties in my agency I tallish it. (The information referred to follows:) USIA'S REGIONAL sERVB. h: CENTER IN MANILA USIA's Regional Sert Ice Center in Manila hits three main functions: (1) producing publications originated by USIA in Washing- ton for distribution to LE-US posts in Asia; (2) producing publle.,iions originated by USIS posts in Asia for titeir own use; and (3) editing and producing ,-erional 1011311eations. Products include nue!?mites, photo news- paper iliSer is, leaflets, p.fsf ers and "fast pain- phlets." The latter, frequently full texts of Presidential statements are keyed to major foreign policy events Itt which the time ele- ment is Important,. Among the 11 Amen- int and 231 Filipino employees currently at he Regional Service Center are editor, arti ,tt., photo specialists and uhlilvd Printing IA chntelans. The esti- maksi upending budge! 1?r PY 1071 Is El,- 560,1)00, which ihie I mid,printing service per- formed for other U.S. ;DI t?rlilllent agencies on 41 reimbursement countries does It Approved For Release 2001/11/15 : CIA-RDP73600296R000300240016-6 f? ?? paOrzine en riftApproved FornReleas Vietnam" The CHAIRMAN. IS 411IS magazine I have here, The Face of Anguish, Vietnam, an issue .of the Rural Spirit? Mr. Nicurm. No, sir. The CHAIRMAN, This is MIL Its name; IS It? Whet Is this issue? It. is a picture magazine; I think it came from you, Mr. Nicicgi., I do not--I cannot recognize It. The CHAIRMAN. No; this comes from Free Asia Press, Manila, I rim sorry. Is that part of our operation? Mr. Nrcicr.L. I do not reciognize the maga- zine, sir, The CHAIRMAN. SHICC you RTC in the busi- ness, maybe I will give it to you and ask you see if you can identify it for us. It does not seem to be identified. I do not know what the Free Asia Press is. It Is a very elaborate magazine and beautifully clone. Who would you say is the sponsor of that? Mr. Nreitm.,..1 would just say that?I have never seen it, and it does not appear to me to be one of our products. The CHAIRMAN. Who would publish such a magazine except us? Mr. NICKEL. I do not know. Publication and distribution of, "Who are the Vietcong?" The CHAIRMAN. Here is another one. It has no identification whatsoever. It Is' "Who Are the Vietcong?" Have you ever seen that pamphlet? Mr. NICKEL. That is ours. The CHAIRMAN. It is not identified. There is nothing in it, I am told by the staff, that would identify it as being your publication. Is that the normal way we operate? We do not identify our publications? Mr. NICKEL, No; I would not say that is normal. The CHAIRMAN. What proportion would you say are attributed to us and are identi- fiable as our publications and what propor- tions are not? Mr. NICKEL.. It would be very hard to give a percentage. It is an English language pub- lication, I believe, Senator. I would feel com- fortable in saying that most of our English language publications are attributed. The CHAIRMAN. Do you know where this was distributed? Was it distributed in South Vietnam? Mr. NICKEL. Since it is an English language version, sir, I would assume that some num- bers were used in South Vietnam, but I would also assume that the English language ver- sion was prepared for use primarily outside of Vietnam. The CHAIRMAN. In the United States? Mr. NICKEL. No; not in the United States. The CHAIRMAN. Where outside of Vietnam? Mr. NICKEL. For use by posts other than Vietnam. ? The CHAIRMAN. By the USIA? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir, The CHAIRMAN. You prepared it in Saigon? Mr. NICKEL. It was?may I inquire? The CHAIRMAN. DO you want to look at it or are you familiar with it? ? Mr. NICKEL. May we see it, sir? The reason lam pausing is because I run not sure wheth- er it was a JUSPAO publication or a USIA publication, I can find out for you, sir, and supply the information. The CHAIRMAN. But it is a pamphlet which yOU prepared and published? Mr. NICKEL. We are sure it is a pamphlet hi which we were involved. But whether JUSPAO prepared it or USIA prepared it, I do not know. The CHAIRMAN. Would that kind of maga- zine be printed in Manila rather than in. Saigon? Mr. NICKEL. Yes; it would be. The CHAIRMAN. Where would it be diotrib- ? uted? It would not be distributed in Japan; Wauld it? e 2001414115mCIMROP73B00296R0130300240046463i1it %It% MN, hut he hau posts ordered it, sir. Japan certainly would no knowledge of it. 110 raki, he had never not use large numbers in Engibtli. The CHAIRMAN. Will you be able to find out where that was printed and for whom and where it was distributed? Mr. Nuaccr.. I will see that information is developed. The CHAIRMAN. Will you supply It for the record, please? Mr. Nicis,er.. Yes, sir. (The Information referred to follows: ) PRINTING AND DISTRIBUTION OF "WHO...ARE THE VIET cONG?" The pamphlet "Who Are the Viet Cong?" was initially prepared in English by USIA in Washington for overseas distribution as part of USIA's worldwide information program. Texts and pilot& were initially sent to USIA's Regional Service Center (rtsc) in Manila, where 10,250 pilot copies were printed in August 1966. Some 10,000 of these were printed for USIA, for distribution to USIS posts ordering them. There were addi- tional printings at RSC Manila for USIS posts In Saigon, Canberra and Tel Aviv in 1967. JUSPAO prepared a Vietnamese language version which was printed at RSC Manila In several press runs from December 1966 to March 1067. in a total of 300,000 copies. This version was distributed In South Viet-Nam. Is any unidentified material distributed in United States? The CHAIRMAN. Is any material of this kind without identification ever distributed in the United States? Mr. NICKEL. No. sir. The CHAIRMAN. You are sure about that? 'Mr. NICKEL. I am sure to the extent that I am very well aware of the need to keep it out of the United States, and we are always cognizant of this restriction. The CHAIRMAN. If it is not identified, how would you keep It out? What is to prevent someone from distributing it here when there is no way of telling who printed it where It came from except to the initiated? Mr. NICKEL. In terms of USIS use of ma- terials of this sort, all USIS posts, and all .USIS personnel would be aware of the neces- sity to avoid its introduction into the United States. Booklet entitled "Vietnam: The View Beyond the Battle" The CHAIRMAN. On a recent visit to Saigon, two members of the staff of this committee were given this booklet called, "Vietnam, the View Beyond the Battle." Are you -familiar with it? Mr. Nrcittt. I have seen it. The CHAIRMAN. This WRS part of the ma... terials in a welcoming kit. Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. When you say you have seen it, who published it? Did you publish it? It also does not have a date on it Mr. NICKEL. I believe it Wan printed at our regional service center in Manila. The CHAIRMAN, It IS 11. very elaborate mag- amine wtth extremely fine workmanship in its maps and photographs. There Is a mag- nificent photograph of Thieu and Ky and President Lyndon B. Johnson taken in February of 1966. It does not say itself when it was printed. Can you tell us when this was printed? Mr. NICKEL. I believe, sir, that was printed' at our regional service center in Manila. I believe it was a USAID project, and the cost of printing? The CHAIRMAN. Was it prepared at your request for,distribution in Vietnam? Mr. NICKEL. I believe It was prepared by a contract writer for XID and I believe print- ing was at AID expense. However, I make that statement subject to check. The CHAIRMAN. I asked the AID Director the day before yesterday if he had ever seen seen it and knew ont.,Ing about K. Mr. NICKEL. I belies,. .Ir, it was printed 2 or 3 years ago. The CHAIR MAN. lIe s he knew nothing shout it, and he left I lit Iropr,"..ion that he did not think it. vitt!: m All) prideel.. Again I raise the same (pies:In-I becale.e it is such a fine piece of work. Wird, is the purpose of Publishing in English such a fine magazine and what is the distrirot Ion of it? Could you find that out on this ore too? Mr. Nicarar;. I will fit d out on that, sir. ? (The information r^f. rred to follows:) . PRINTING AND DISTRTIM IC N OF "VIETNAM: THE VIEW BEYONI- Tim BATTLE" In 1967, because the Government of Viet- Nam wanted to tell ti Is citizens the story of developing nationhood In South Viet-Nam and because USAID e.,vecially was provid- ing advice and assistance In the develop- ment, JUSPAO was rerptested to prepare a one-time publication. "Viet-Nam: The View Beyond the Battle." Information and photos were furnished by the GVN and USAID, with JUSPAO assuming coordinating responsi- bility for text, editing, layout and printing. The Vietnamese hang rage publication Was printed in 100,000 copes at USIA's. Regional Service Center (RSC). a:, JUSPAO's request, for distribution in Viet-Nam. An English langtu ge version was also printed in 60,500 copi-s. They were ordered by and shipped to JUSPAO and to USIS posts, at Manila, Djakarta, Bonn, Wellington, Can- berra, Kuala Lumpur, Lusaka, Lagos, Stock- holm, Taipei, Georget )wn, Quito, Tel Aviv, Beirut, Rangoon. Cuva, Copenhagen, Bern, Kabul, Brussels and Ae',dcjavik. From the JUSPAO supply, sonic 5,000 copies were provided to USAID for use in a briefing kit for distribution to visitors, journalists, Incoming USAID rs and other persons inquiring about USAID's activities. Until early 1968 the U.S. 14Lssion Press Center in Saigon, which operates -inder American Em- bassy supervision, Watt 'bated copies to news- men. 'Why are magazines unidentified as to source? The CHAIRMAN. I do not quite understand why magazines of this icind are not identified ? as to source. It obvioufly raises a very inter- esting question. Mr. NICKEL. I will furnish the information to the committee. (The information referred to follows:) "EXPLANATION OF LACK -IF ATTRIBUTION OF PUBLICATIONS "As was pointed out ill Mr. Nickel's open- ing statement, one of tin- roles performed by JUSPAO assistance in the production of information materials by the GVN. In 1067, when "Viet-Nam: The View Beyond the Bat- tle" was first printed, 'he GVN did not have the capacity to produce magazines of this' type. In developing this particular project with and for the CIVN, JUSPAO decided that this and Similar public:0.1,10ns might al,-;o have all audience in third collo; tries as well. If at- tribution were given rightfully to the GVN, such attribution could limit USIS use over- seas. On the other hand, if attribution were given to USAID or JUSPAO, it could limit or embarrass the GVN's use of the publication In Viet-Nam. As has Leen noted earlier, JUSPAO assisted the GVN by providing 100,000 copies of the publication in the Viet- namese language. Ace(); dl ogly, a decision was made not to positively Identify this type pub- lication with either the GVN or U.S. agencies, ' thereby permitting all ioterested parties to distribute It through their own outlets." Publication o/ attribu; ea and unattributed maga..ines ? The CHAIRMAN. Do ot.t. know who would ? make the contracts for the publication of such magazines? Put it this way: Has USIA Approved For Release 2001/11/15 : CIA-RDP73600296R000300240016-6 $..).$)064 Approved For RereageittotiiI/1t5'.-CIA RDI57 ever made a c.ontraot for a similar, magazine French and in English, I colB(9n(q1tR slime that some of the material they publish in English, unilateralfy, is made available to their Embassy in Washington. Now, I want to make it very clear, Mr. ,Chairman, these are aspects of their opera- tion that I am not officially involved in; I provide neither support for, nor assistance In any way. $ The CHAIRMAN. And no advice? Mr. NICKEL. And no advice. The CHAIRMAN. They do it all on their. own? Mr. NICKEL. That is right, sir. The CHAirtiaArr. Could you supply for the record some recent examples of publications that the Vietnamese Government has made in English? Mr. NICKEL. I will, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Give us a few examples during the last year to see what they are doing. (The information referred to follows:) GVN publications in English Sample materials provided through the Embassy of Viet-Nam include "Fighters for Peace," "Communist Atrocities During the Latest Offensives," and "Viet-Nam Bulletin." Other publication The CHAIRmAN. With regard to these other publications, we mentioned three, I believe, the Rural Spirit, which has 565,000, and the Vietnam Today, with 600,000, and the Free South with 1.3 million per edition. Mr. Nuacra. That is right, sir. The CHAIRMAN. There are nine other pub- lications which I will not take the time to go into at length. I will name them and I think ? these are correct. This is material which we obtained in Saigon. A magazine called Mother Heart. Long Me is the way you pronounce it In Vietnamese. It is published bimonthly in 200,000 copies per issue. There is a magazine called Culture-Drama published bimonthly, 12.000 pee; issue. ' Magazine entitled "Mother Heart" even though It is not this one? Have you ever asked the regional office to publish for your purposes an unidentified magazine? Mr. NICKEL. Let me answer that by say- ing we would occasionally use contract per- sonnel to prepare products for us, but the use of a contract writer would not in any way be related to the decision as to whether the product would be attributed or unattributed. I do not myself know why this publication is not an attributed product. The CHAIRMAN. Does your office ever ask for magazines similar to this from the re- gional office in Manila? Mr. NICKEL. We occasionally order pub- lications from the regional office in Manila. The CHAIRMAN. When you do, do you spec- ify whether they are tO be attributed to you or not? Is that decision left up to the regional office? Mr. nexus,. If they are in English, sir, and they already exist, they already are either at- tributed or unattributed, so we would not get involved in the attribution. I think I am ? correct in assuming that most are attributed. If we are doing Vietnamese versions of basic English language publications that originate at the Manila plant, then it would be up to JUSPAO to decide whether we wanted them attributed. The CHAIRMAN. On what basis do you de- cide whether it is attributed to you or not at- tributed to you? What is the criteria? Mr. NICKEL. Well, speaking for myself alone? The CHAIRMAN. You ought to speak for the Agency. I do not want you to speak only for yourself, but you can do both. Mr. NICKEL. If you will allow me to speak? The CHAIRMAN. Speak for yourself and then speak for the agency. That is right. Mr. NICKEL. In making the decision as to whether something is to be attributed or not, I generally follow the policy that anything that is explaining some aspect of U.S. policy or U.S. society, should have attribution to the United States. In fact, attribution adds to the credibility of It. The CoAntemel. How do you decide when not to attribute it? What is your objective? Mr. NICKEL. Let me put it this way. I have What is "Mother Heart"? Mr. NICKEL. Long Me, sir, is a pUblicatrion of the Ministry of Chien Hot, We provide considerable assistance to the publication. We print it. It Is designed to explain and another area of operations in Vietnam where promote the Chteu Hol program largely In I am engaged in helping the Vietnamese pub- , the sense of informing families of proopoc- ; lish materials. Obviously, I do not attribute . taw; Chieu Hot relaters. , such materials to my own organization. South Vietnamese publication 0/ materials in English The CHAIRMAN. They would not publish materials in English; would they? Mr. NICKEL. They publish some materials in English. ,The ClIA/R1VIAN. Do they? Mr. Exam,. A few, for use abroad. The CHAIRMAN. For USO where? Mr. McKee. Well, for use abroad. The CrIAIRMAN. In the United States? Mr. NICKEL. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. Really? Mr. lemaeut. But these are not materials I am involved in .- The CHAnteener. But they do publish mate- rials in English that are then distributed in the United States? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, occasionally, sir. '1110 CHAIRMAN. I did not know that. Of how ninny do you know? Nreare,. I would 'awe to determine that. The Canaveral. Have yod any examples of It? Mr. NICKEL. I have no examples with me, sir. The CHAIRMAN. 'What would be the objec- tive of each publications? To what are they directed? Mr. NICKEL. Well, when I say for use in the United States, they publish on their own behalf without assistance from us some mate- rials for IIII0 overseas. They publish these irk The CHAIRMAN. This is intended for the Vietcong whom you want to come over; is that right? ? Mr. NICKEL. No; it is intended for families on the South Vietnamese side who may have relatives serving with the enemy. It provides these families with better information about the program. Also, one of its secondary ob- jectives is to supply more information about the program to the Vietnamese officials who themselves are concerned with Chime Hoi. Magazine entitled "Culture-Drama" Tho CHAIRMAN. What is the magazine Cul- ture-Drama about? Mr. NICKEL. It is known RS the Van Tac Vu magazine, Mr. Chairman. It is a magazine designed to provide program material? songs, skits, and general ray/ material? for a great number of culture-dramas teams which exist in Vietnam. The culture-drama form Is it very attractive one. T110 CHAIRMAN. CURVIICI-dIall011 has nothing to do wiles the theater, I guehs. Mr. NICKEL. It is folk theater touring The CisAIRMAN. Is there a theater in ? Saigon? Mr. NICKEL. 1.110.1'0 is opera, renovated op- era, ClussICIll. ' Tim,, CHAIRMAN. Do they kayo a local opera company? Mr. Mester.. There are performances. The CHAIRMAN. Are they traveling people that we bring In? ? Mr. Nimcm.. No; this would be more on gPe94944)9?clikkal Vietnamese drama, When I say opera, I me $11 classical Vietnam- ese opera which is not unrelated to Chinese I opera. The CHAIRMAN. Do we determine the sub- ject matter of a magae;ne of that kind? Mr. NICKEL. This particular magazine is $ directed at culture-dra let teams which per- form in the provinces, and in general per- form almost like vaude-11; lane, if I might use the term, Mr. Chairmale. The CHAIRMAN. What is the objective of ; our sponsoring such a auseazine? What do we , seek to accomplish la publishing such a magazine? Mr. NICKEL. We see:: o provide program material, that is naticealist in its direction ! because these culture (frame teams play a ; role in support of the Government. The CHAIRMAN. Do ',Oil think this kind Of a role would agree with Vice President Ag- new's idea of what a magazine or a publica- tion ought to do? He would not criticize the kind of publications we put out in Vietnam' ; Mr. NICKEL. I prefe- not; to comment on the Vice President. The CHAIRMAN. If I understood his Igen they were that maga eines and newspapers I ought to support the Government and, there- I fore, he would approve of this type of pun- cation.' It seems to me ii is perfectly obvious I he would. I am not quite sure myself though what justifies the spending of American money on i the cultural and &Lusa magazine. Not the' I 'have any aversion to culture and drama, but I did not know that we were competent to tell the Vietnamese about culture and ! drama in Vietnam. Mr. NICKEL. Well, of course? The CHAIRMAN. We eave a hard time know- ; ing what is culture env drama in Washing- ton. Mr. NICKEL. Of course, Mr. Chairman, the ; JUSPAO staff that works on this magazine I is predominantly Vietnamese. The CHAIRMAN. I ace. You think it is so ; constructed rind edited that it would appeal ; to the effete, intellectuel snobs of Saigon? ? Mr. NICKEL. I would ..ay that it appeals to the performers and eulture-drama teams in the provinces of Vietnam. Posters, pamplel-is and song sheets The CHAIRMAN. 01 what are posters III-8 and II1-6 on rice extenjaes? This is about the ; miracle rice. Mr. NICKEL. Yes, sa. Those would be posters. The CHAIRMAN. Is that a one-shot prop' ? ; ?einem, one poster? Mr. NICKEL. One peeter. The CIIAIRMAN. 50,110U copies? Mr. NICKEL. It is sot a fixed periodical. The CHAIRMAN. It IS net a recurring postn or is it? Mr. Nicisza. It is aot recurring, but obi:. ously our interest la IR-I3 is such that ow oapIert_rioud of time we could do many poste n ; THO CHAIRMAN. We have another pee entitled, "Our Proic,i, lifts Been Completed Is that a recurring pt,ster or a single all. Mr. Niestra. I would assume Mit is ' Single shot? The CIIAIREIAN. Is I., .0,000 copies? Mr. NIcKuri. Yes, sir. Ti10 ClIA111.111AN. Til+?11 you have a called, "The Goverusient of the Repain of Vietnam Helps I zetligees Return Ilene That nem Li is just at her poster? Mr. N islets,. Yea, s,r, The CHAIRMAN. "./ +len there is a parephle "Security Laws Taw ..ea the Citizens." Mr. Nwitra. Yes, s:r. CHAlltmAN. 'Chat is 60,000 copies; I' that only for that parpose? Mr, Nies..EL. That would be a one olio; pamphlet, yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. 'Men we have song sheet' One is called "apnea of Hope" and one e Approved For Release 2001/11/15: CIA-RDP73600296R000300240016-6 "Met iveN3iRrIP.W%quri,91; R.1%Rjn tire In printing song sherds? Mr. NICKEL. 'flint nong sheet was probably product that ?van !salted by the Ministry ef Information in connection with the Tet observation. As you know. Tet is quite a festive holiday in Vietnam, and the songs were probably con?ccted with t,hn celebra- hen of that holiday, fissiber of posters produced in Fiscal Year 1969 The Criainatarr, Could you tell us how Many different posters were put out, last year? Mr. Nicitst. I con ?illy give you an overall figure on posters, Mr. Chairman?a. total of 1.73 million copies iii fiscal year 1060. That would be for individual units, The CHAIRMAN. Individual units of posters. Mr. Nimes, 1.73 million pieces of paper, every one of which was a poster. I cannot gore you the circulation or the production per poster. I cannot say 50,000 of this or 70,000 of that. The Crraritarnr.r. To Illustrate the point, you put out 15 posters consisting of 1.7 million issues. Is that about right? Mr. Nrcicut. Those are not the figures, but that is the logic. The CHAIRMAN. I know they are not the figures. Mr, Nrcirm...: That Ls the logic. The CHAIRmAN. That is what I meant. You could not estimate how many posters there were, not individual pieces but how many different posters there were? M. NICKEL. I find that very diflIcult. Publications of all kinds put out in a year The CHAIRMAN. Would you estimate how many publications of all kinds you put out in a year? Would It be 16 million or 50 Million publications of all different kinds, Including all these magazines and posters And newspapers? The newspapers alone run into several million weekly; do they not? ? " Mr, netters Yes, sir. The CitAnimAN. I wondered if you had an estimate to give us some idea of the volume or our activity. Mr. noun,. 24 million plus, sir. That would be magazines, newspapers, posters, and pamphlets. Leaflets dropped by the military The CitAnimAN. Would the pamphlets in- clude the leaflets dropped by the military? Mr. NICKEL. That does not, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Do you have any estimate howmany there are? Mr, NICKEL. That would be somewhere in the vicinity of 1.5 billion, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Billion? Mr. NICKEL, Billion. The CHAIRMAN. My goodness; 1.5 billion by the military? Mr. NICKEL. Yes. Tho CHAIRMAN. Who prints those? Where can they get so many printed? That seems incredible. Mr, NICKEL. They would be primarily dis- tributed by the military. The Crumuvissr. Are these printed in that regional office in Manila? Mr, NICKEL. No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Does the military have its own printing plant? Mr, Nrcuct.. I was a bit hasty. Let me be more precise. Some might be printed in Manila. Many might be printed by the mili- tary on Okinawa. The CHAIRMAN. Do they have a big print- ing plant on Okinawa? Mr. Nieitm,. They have a printing plant that provides support for the psychological program in Vietnam. CitAxitmAN. Is it comparable to the Size of yours in Manila? Mr. NICKEL, No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. It is not as large? Mr. }helm. No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Is the USIA plant in Manila very large one? ? 20(1V WII9,1)$,TDR7g1922P,ORP,P plant, The CHArromAN. Is it capable of printing a magazine as lnrge as, say, Time magazine Or Fortune or Newsweek? Mr. McKim. It is difficult for me to answer, I am not aware of what capacity it would have for volume. I would think that, tech- nically it could do the job. Other printing by the military The CHAIRMAN. Does the military. in midi- tion to.the 1,5 billion leaflets, niso print magas Moen and publications similar to this? Does it print. anything sinilim to this anywhere? Mr, Mercer.. II, would be very unlikely to print a pamphlet like that. I believe they do print an employee -relations magazine for the Vietnamese employees for the military In Vietnam. But to the best of my knowledge, Mr. Chairman, 6lit is the only publication of that type that the military publishes. Lack of attribution of "Vietnam: The View Beyond The Battle" The CHAIRMAN. I do not know who did this, but that is one of the finest pictures of its kind I ever saw of the people in the rice pad- dies. As a technical matter, regardless of its content, you could well take credit for it? because It is a very fine production. I think it is a very attractive thing. Did I show it to you to see if you could identify it, or did you? I do not remember. Do you want to look at it and perhaps you can tell me? ' Mr. NICKEL. I am familiar with it. I have seen it. The Cronamous. You have seen it. I have so many publications here I can- not keep them all straight. ? I am told by the stair that the MIS press said this morning, after they checked it, that ft was .printed in March 1967. I still am puzzled about this question of attribution. A magazine of this kind is such an imposing production that It Is rather a shock to find there is no way of telling who printed it and where and when It was printed. Yet It is on a subject which apparently either we or the Government of Vietnam would be the only ones really interested in doing it. So I can see now that It was. I would suggest, for whatever It Is worth, that it helps our emit- bility to identify and to claim it as our own when It is. I do not think that the world as It is today is going to be very Impressed by our trying to avoid responsibility for the publication. Press credentials granted to Jour security agents in Saigon Did your office have anything to do with the recent granting of press credentials in Saigon to?four security agents? Mr. NICKEL. No, sir. ?The CHAIRMAN. It Is not your responsibil- ity. Do you know anything about that epi- sode? Mr. NICKEL. I am familiar with the gen- eral newspaper accounts of that. , The CHAIRMAN. Then I suppose you have friends who were aware of that in Vietnam? Mr. NICKEL. Yes, The CHAIRMAN. Could you tell me in what mission these people were engaged for which they wanted such credentials? Mr. mom.. I have no knowledge of that, sir. The CHAIRMAN. You have no knowledge of that. Are CIA personnel using USIA as cover? Could you say whether any CIA personnel are using the USIA as cover? Mr. Nrcstrt.. Comment on such a questiont must be made in executive session by other appropriate ()Metals, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. All right. Language facility of USIA personnel in Vietnam Could you tefl me what percentage of 1:78/A personnel In Vietnam speak Vietnamese? Mr. Thom. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. At three level or better. OP924,0c.)16,-It; ployeeti. Mr. Thcar.i,. Six per( er Tho CHAIRMAN. flow -ofiny speak French at the three level or haul Or? Ms. Nrrcri,. I nin r?,ri V, sir. I gave you a percentage figure. I (lift not, nirun it. to be n percentage. :11x employer!:; flix?nk Viet- flaltreLo at, the three level or better. ? Tim CHAIRMAN. i7)-t, is approximately 0 percent; is it not? Mr, NICKFL. It also welts out t4 approxi- mately 6 percent, but if is. riot, a percentage figure. The ileum 101 I tench would he 24. The CHAIRMAN. Tb- I, is at the three level or better? Mr. NICKEL, Yes, sir Language facility of JUSPAO personnel The CIIA/RMAN. What about all JUSPAO personnel? Mr. NICKEL. All XCJEPAO personnel in terms of three or better or what, sir? The CHAIRMAN". Mr.. NICKEL. Well, I am addressing the civilian component of JUSPAO. There are six people who speak Vietnamese and 24 who speak French. The Cirarnarax. What about the 1300 mili- tary you mentioned? Do you know anything about them? ? Mr. NICKEL. I do not. " The CHAIRMAN. Yeti do not urea on them. Journalists' trips io Vietnam sponsored by USIA Does the USIA finance or sponsor in any way trips to Vietnam by Journalists from the United States? Mr. NICKEL. The IS. Information:Agency, sir, does have a third country journalist program. Tho CHAIRMAN. Could you Indicate the magnitude of that? Bow many journalists in the course of a 'NeDri Mr. NICKEL. I wousd be very happy to sup- ply that for the record. It is a program ad- ministered out of the headquarters in Wash- ington, and I cannot, speak to the details, sir. (The following Information referred to follows:) , USIA third country fournalist program, , fiscal ycar 1069 have the fig.. "For the record, the program involved 15 foreign journalists dining Fiscal Year 1060, and an anticipated equal number during the current fiscal year." Tho CHAIRmAN. 'I want it both ways, I Want trips from tl-,e United States to Viet- nam of American journalists and also from other countries to Vietnam. Mr. NICKEL. I believe, sir, that this pro- gram is only concerned with third couatry journalists to Vietaarn. The CHAIRMAN. 'You mean not United States? Mr. Nrcitsr.. Not American journalists. The CTIAIRMAN. Titen the answer to my first question is no. They do not sponsor B.S. journalists to Vietnam; is that correct? Mr. NICKEL. That Is correct, sir. The CHArnmAN. Tley do sponsor foreign journalists to Vietnam? Mr. NICKEL, That is right, sir._ The CHAIRMAN. you say what is the purpose of this program? Why do you sponsor foreign journalists to Vietnam? Mr. NICKEL. To eriable them, sir, to come and see for themselees the developments in ? that country. This is done in many in- stances for journalists from publications which could not afford to or would not '-d their correspondentr to Vietnam. ( i The CHAIRMAN. Viten they arrive in Siorth Vietnam, does your agency take care of thei:So._ meet them and make arrangements for their visit? Mr. NICKEL. They are accredited, and they ? receive the same facilitation from the Mis- sion Press Center, Mr. Chairman, as any ac- credited journalist would receive. The OLIAIRMAN I realise that, but in ad- Approved For Release 2001/11/15 : CIA-RDP73600296R000300240016-6 dition.There Is the Approcordi Forkkaale them and paid for their passage. Do you also take care of them and give them any special treatment or are they just allowed like any other journalist? Mr. NICKEL. We give them special treat- ment when they ask for ,it, special treat- ment of the same kind that we would give any journalist in Vietnam who so requested it. To really get to the thrust of your question, Mr. Chairman, it is up to them. They come out; they are accredited; they are there like other journalists and their programs are theirs to arrange. The CHAIRMAN. If they are not familiar with the place, I would assume in the nor- mal course of events you would take them around and show them the places of interest. I would have thought the answer was yes. It wculd seent to me a rather dubious invest- ment to bring a journalist from Europe or Africa and then let him go on his own. Mr. NICKEL. Tho answer is yes. I just want- ed to make it clear that What is offered them is what IS available for all the journalists in Vietnam. Justification for USIA third country jour- nalist program questioned The CHAIRMAN. I have some difficulty, I may say, in reconciling this activity with the mission of your agency that you describe. I cannot quite fit this in as to how we are justified as a government and as a people to support this activity. I wish you would en- lighten me a little as to the mos.?ling justi- fying this activity of bringing foreign sour- nalists to Vietnam to view the? Mr. NICKEL. I think this Is another matter, Mr. Chairman, which I will have to refer to my superiors and I am sure they will furnish a justification for it. I say that because it is a program that is not within my purview in terms of responsibility. (The information referred to follows.) Third country journalist program "This activity, known within USIA as the third country journalist program, was begun In 1965 and is currently active. The records of the Committee will reflect that, In hear- ings on news policies in Vietnam on August 17, 1966, the Agendy provided a legal memo- randum justifying this program. That record also indicates that the Committee obtained an opinion from the Comptroller General of the United States on the program that found the expenditure of funds for this program to be proper." The CHAIRMAN. I see. In other words, this Is carried on, but you have no responsibility for doing it. The decisions are all made here. You would have to ask Mr. Shakespeare about that; is that what you said? Mr. /Cancers I am not sure that it would be Mr. Shakespeare, but certainly one of my principals in Washington. The CHAIRMAN, I just use him. XIII Is the nominal head of the Agency. It is quite right he might not know about it, but someone at that level would know. But you would not be willing to share with me your views about the Justification for such a program. Third country journalists' briefing and interviews When these people arrive there, are they normally given briefings by the Ainerican 'officials? ? Mr. NICKEL. If they so requegt. The CHAIRMAN. IS It 1101111(11 that they do request such a briefing? Mr. Nemec. I would say not necessarily, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN, No? Mr. Nienef,. It is very hard to categorize journalists in that regard. The CHAIRMAN. Do they normally expect to see military officials or the people in the Em- bassy? What would you say was the norm? Mr. NICKEL. Many of them, Mr. Chairman, would like to interview senior ?Melilla in Vietnam. I would ,nay, by and large, they are asen239,01/121015 inc,IATROPuLINA4461340ANAYggt1,?6..t. it. do you know whether when they return to their respective countries they report and write their articles Ina very sympathetic way to our purposes in Vietnam? Mr. NICKEL. I do not know enough about it, sir, to be able to characterize it. The CHAIRMAN. If they do not, It does not seem justified to carry on the program. Is there no followup to find mitt hoW they react? Mr'. NICKEL. There is. ' The CirsIamtar. There is a followup? Mr. NICKEL. There is, sir, but the follow- up does not fall into my area of responsibility. The CHAIRMAN. I see. Ion do not know, but clearly they could want 1.o check to see if these people reacted in the proper way and if they appreciate the courtesies yon have . extended them. Would they not? Mr. NICKEL. I am sure that our people are well aware of what was written by news- papermen who have participated in this pro. gram. Program o/ bringing cove, netent officials to Vietnam The CHAIRMAN. Were you there when Mr. 'Moshe Doyen came to Viet lain? Mr. NICKEL. No sir. The CHAIRMAN. Was that before your tour of duty? Mr. NICKEL. That was be tore my time. - The CHAIRMAN. Do you know anything about the program of bringing government officials there? You do not know about that? MT. NICKEL. No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. It 18 not your respon- sibility. Mr. NICKEL. It is not mine, and I am not aware of any. . The CHAIRMAN. You do not know about it. In arranging interviews than the average Journalist who Is accredited in Vietnam. ? Witness' instructions concerning policy questions The CHAIRMAN. In this matter, do your instructions with regard to the polls also in- clude policy questions? Were you instructed , not to discuss policy questions with the com- mittee? Polling by Oliver Quayle The CHAIRMAN. Have you ever heard of Mr: Oliver Quayle? Does that name means any- thing to you? ? Mr. NICKEL. The name does not sound com- pletely strange, but frankly I cannot associate It with anything. The CHAIRMAN. You associate Mr. Quayle with something else; do you? That word used to be common, but I have not heard it in that -connection for a long- time. They have, de- veloped new words. He is a well-known figure In U.S. circles and has often done work test- ing public opinion. In fact there 13 an article in this morning's paper. One of the well- known columnists apparently has been down in Alabama with him this week. I happened to see it this morning. I wondered if you knew whether he had ever visited Vietnam while you were there. Apparently not. You are not acquainted with his work? Mr. NICKEL. No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. He has done considerable work in this country on the testing of atti- tudes and opinions, and I think one of the columnists sometime back mentioned that he thought Mr. Quayle?hrid made a poll in Vietnam. Whether he made it at the USIA's request is another matter. We will try to find that out from your superiors. (The information referred to follows.) Polling by Oliver Quayle "U.S. Information Agency records indicate that USIA has never commissioned Mr. Oliver ? ? Quayle to conduct a public opinion poll In Vietntun.?? Orientation of USIA offices from Countries other than Vietnam Are USIA officers assigned in countries other than Vietnam ever sent to Vietnam for brief visits at Government expense? Mr. NICKEL. USIA officers? , The CHAIRMAN. Yes. Mr. NICKEL. Yes; we bring some USIA of- ficers to Vietnam for orientation. The CHAnimme. Could you Indicate about how many during the course of a year are brought to Vietnam for the purpose? Mr. 'NICKEL. I do not have specific figures but, during the period I have been there, we have brought groups of five officers, I would say, to Vietnam two or three times a year for orientation. The CHAIRMAN. That means 15 or 20 officers altogether? Mr. Menet,. That is right. The CHAIRMAN. What countries did they come from while you were there? Mr. NICKEL. They came front a variety of countries. The CHAIRMAN. Europe? Mr. NICKEL, Europe, South America, and East Asia. The CHAIRMAN. The purpose of this orienta- tion Is for them to go back and do what? Mr. Niciter? Its purpose is to give them a firsthand appreciation of the situation in Vietnam. Tho CumRmAre. Is it in order to aid them in spreading the word when they get back to their posts? Mr. NICKEL. In order to enable them to bet- ter speak to the situation. Effect Of USIA third country journalist program The CHAIRMAN. With regard to the news- papermen, what has been the effect and the result of this program? Even though you did Western influence on South Vietnamese culture There was a recent publication in the Viet- nam Embassy here in Washington which con- tains an article on what is happening to Viet- namese culture. This is from a statement of the Minister of Culture on which I would like to have you commeut. It says and I quote: "Few of these young eitv people know much about their own culture except for the well-known festival such EIS Tet or the Mid- Autumn Festival," says the scholar versed in eastern and western cultures. "It is not that they don't care. But access to western ways is easier than access to traditional Viet- namese culture. * ? *" Radio and television are the media mainly responsible for the chanes. As a Saigon University coed says, "Probably 80 percent or even more of the young people in Saigon prefer western music and art. We like the music especially. Few of us understand our own culture, mainly beernefe we have never had the opportunity to study its features. But the western forms can no seen and heard daily on the American forces radio and tele- vision stations. And now even Vietnamese radio and television have programs devoted to western music." Would you say that is nu accurate descrip- tion-of what has taken place in Saigon? Mr. NICKEL. Certainly a,?cuss to Western culture is there, The communications ex- plosion, I would say, Mr. Chairnian, has had its effect in Vietnam as elsewhere. The youth of Vietnam like the youth other countries have been attracted by W,31.ern /OrI119. On the other hand, in the countryside of Viet- nam, the Vietnamese cultural impact is very pronounced and very vlsiMe. I would say from my own view that the ?uitural problem, the problem of cultural ideuti ty in Vietnam, is probably not much ditrereot from the prob- lem of cultural Identity thim,. you find in most developing nations today. The CHAIRMAN. Du you bsean most devel- oping nations or only those in which we have is largo presence? Mr. Menet, Pet-halm I will amend that to say many developing natloys. It is largely a Approved For Release 2001/11/15 : CIA-RDP73600296R000300240016-6 ble ot .avlialkppreliedeFertReleaSe tar'iesion. he CHATIIMAN, Is there any Indigenous rsepetition In Snigon to the television and rsdio systems which we have established? 5Ir. Wirer.. Well, Mr. Chnirman. on Viet- -mess television, I believe that probably j most popular program offered during a 1 ;pews schedule is a night devoted to Viet,- :ramese opera. which is distinctly Vietnamese ii forM and a very inherent part of their dali cultural pattern. You find youngsters foi well as elderly Vietnamese clustered around the sets watching it. impact of U.S. presence on Vietnamese ? culture f. The Cnarrnarahr. Do you think that the itn- pacC of the U.S. presence in Vietnam on the Vie tnamese culture hns been a favorable one? Mr. NICICF.L. I would answer that, Mr. chairman, by saying that whenever you in- :riduco a half million foreigners into a rluntry of a population of 17 million, there are going to be dislocations and some of the ' lecations arc going to be cultural. The Cueramax. Are you saying that the presence of a half million soldiers is a greater Influence than the presence of the USIA with itt great publications, Its newspapers, maga- ears, pamphlets, and posters? Which do you think is the greater influence on the Viet- :miles? culture? Mr, NICKEL. What I am saying, Mr. Chair- man, is that the presence of a half million L,reigners in a nation of 17 Million people Is bound to have some impact, some cultural impact. The CHAIRMAN. Supposing you did not have any USIA, do you think there would be a great impact if the foreigners were engaged primarily in fighting out in the rice paddies? Ail 1 mean is that It seems to me you prob- ably are responsible fdr a greater part of the Impact than the soldiers. Mr. NICKEL. I would not discount the ef- fect of the presence of a half million people. The Cnantmax. I am out discounting it. I do not suppose there are any easy criteria by which we can measure that. My Nickel, it ls getting late. I must say, outside of those areas in which you have been instructed not to answer my questions, Ifni have been very forthcoming and I think it has been a very interesting hearing. It reruns to me that you have demonstrated beyond a doubt that the presence of the Americans is overwhelming. It has almost submerged the indigenous traditions and culture, at least in Saigon, although not in wane of the remote areas where I suppose it le different. But I hardly know how they could resist it and maybe that is a good thing. I do not know. I guess that is for his- tory to determine. I appreciate very much you and your col- leagues coming here to the committee. Questions on U.S. Information Agency Polls We will take up with your superiors the question of whether or not we are entitled to the information about polls. I must say it Is hard for me to find a justification for secrets In an agency for information created and paid or by the American people. I thought it was to instruct everyone. When. we ask you what you are doing, It seems to ine it is a little incongruous for you to say, We can't tell you about that." We expect that from something liko the wA, but I was a little surprised to have it coming from an information agency. I had not thought of it in that connection, but I realize you are not 1 he policymaker nor the highest responsible nriletal and I do not criticize you for it. If yell have been told to do that, I do not want 11 to cut your own throat out in the open here before the committee. We will talk to Mr. Shakespeare about it or someone else In his agency. Thank you very much, Mr. Nickel. r Mr. Maim. Thank you Very much; ,? ? 2041/41411,5,.: 4.1A4RDP.7t3B00.296R00030,0240016-Erar 4"? ad journed, rie:atecY to the call of the Chair.) tfLere be a year /rota nim.? (The followlint are answers by the U.S. In- formation Agency to achiltional committee questions: ) USIA 11.EPLICA TO SVNATF: Formuira RELATIONS Coral MITTI-31 STAFF' QuF.ETIONS /. MI at is ihe current USIA policy with. regard to having in its libraries in Viet Nam books that are critical of U.S. policy in Viet- Nam?' Would you name sonic of the books currently stocked that arc critical of U.S. Policy?' The U.S. Information Agency's policy with regard to critical books in Vietnamese libra- ries is one of presrlating the issues, both pro and eon, to interested readers. ? Some typical titles on this subject in- clude the following: J. W. Fulbriglit, The 'Arrogance nf Power (English and French editions); and Robert Shaplen, The Lost Re- volution. In addition the libraries have bal- anced collections of periodicals, many or which regularly have contents critical of U.S. policy, including New Republic, Nation, Harpers, Look, Life, Foreign Affairs, News- week, Time, Saturday Review, Asian Survey, New York Times Magazine, and the New Yorker. 2. Have any films produced by the Viet- namese Government been brought to the United States for showing? If so, provide the details. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has sent the following GVN-produced 16 mm films to the OVN's Embassy in Washington and to the OVN's permanent observer to the United Nations since January 1909: GVN Observer Title Language Embassy to U.N. "Carnage at Hue" I English I print 1 print. "Viet-Nam News Maga. do 2 prints.... 2 prints. zinc" "Love and Hatred" do 3 prints. . None, "Viet-Nam Fights and Vietnamese 1 print Nona. Builds." "Back to the Father- .do land." None ? I print. tin addition, approximately 28 prints ol "Massacre at Hue," which is the same as "Carnage at Hue," were sent by the GVN to various U.S. civilian groups at the latter's request. 3. (a) Have there been any studies made of the relative effectiveness of GVN and Viet Cony political propaganda? (b) If so, what do they show as to the effectiveness of the various methods of propaganda used by each? There is no record of any comparative, studies. Typical Viet Cong propaganda stud- ies report themes but no comparative eval- uation. , 4. How many TV sets are there in Viet- Nam?in Vietnamese hands? How many are owned by the Vietnamese Government? How many were paid for by the United States? The C1VN estimates that there are 300,000 'television sets in use by the Vietnamese, The GVN owns 4,832 sets, of which 4,582 were USG-funded-1,082 for the Republic of Viet- Name Armed Forces (RVNAF), and 3,500 for the Ministry of Information's community viewing program. 6. How many TV crews does the USIA oper- ate in Viet-Nam? What use is made of their production? USIA does not have any TV crews in Viet- Nam. JUSPAO, however, does have six mo- tion picture camiramen on its payroll, and they are available to produce materials for a TV clip service. Since January 1, 1200, JUS- PAO has produced 108 TV clips for distri- bution to USIS posts in 36 countries. When clips are considered to have application to Vietnamese audiences, they are offered to Vietnamese TV. 6. (a) How does the number of personnel now attached to the (I) USIA, (2) JUSPAO, and (3), in military psychological operations ????-.^, (0 Personnel IISIA nlemorit American civilians _ Local and 3r1 conntry How many will Estimate, 1969 1970 1971 ' a - t )30 nationals . Total (2) Personnel ? JUSPAO: 397 527 American civilians ? _ $ 137. Local and 31 country nationals 317 American military porsomiti 118 Total 647 (3) Personnel? Military psycholoci- 99 88 347 1347 446 435 'Ill 347 341 107 107 555 544 ? cal operations_ _ 811 I Includes 30 AID-funded, 6150)-funded, and 2 VOA-attached officers. I Includes 24 AID?tuunded, 2 'MD-funded, and I VOA-attached oilicera. Includes 14 AID-funded and 2 0 OD-funded officers. Includes 133 RIO-funded i.ortnnnel. Includes Ill AID-funded i?nntonnel. Includes USIA element and 2 MACY civilians. a USIA element. 1971 personnel level is sun in the planning stage where Sums reduction Is being consir 6. (b) What percentage of all USIA per- sonnel overseas are Inc Viet-Narn? 5.04 percent of all VSlA American and local overseas personnel are in Viet-Nam. U. (c) now many it'SPAO employees are in Saigon and how many are in the field? _ Of the total of 553 personnel, 389 are in Saigon and 166 In the Acid! Saigon ; Field American civilians American military personnel_ Local and 3d country national ,.... Total 78 . 34 277 23 73 70 389 166 7. Is the ? USIA consulted regularly con- cerning future 'military operations, with view to obtaining it. ussessment of the feet of such opct.iPons on Victitete attitudes? ? In Saigon, the Di, ector of JUSPAO -5-1(11 member of the Mission Council has the op- portunity to advise the Ambassador and fellow Mission Counli tnembers of possible effects on Victname us attitudes of planned ' general and specific m 11 itary actions. 8. The injormat,on booklet entitled "JUSPAO Viet-Nam" states that "It (JUS- PAO) also produces Inr field use leaflets, pant- phlets, newspaper articles and photographs, posters, maga;:ines, loudspeaker tapes, mo- tion pictures, and rrtdto and television pro- grams. These items ire variously distributed by hand, disseminated front airplanes or broadcast by the GVN, the U.S., and other free world notions." B. (a) What was tie total number of pieces printer/ or produced last year for each of these categotes? What is planned for this year? Next year? Category Estimate- 1969 1970 ' 1971 Leaflets 36, onr, ono 10, 000, 000 5, 000, 000 Pamphlets '3, 50L, 000 3, 000, 000 1, 500. 000 Newspaper articles [.1)00 3.000 3,000 Photographs sc. 000 36, 000 36, 000 P,sters a 7, 801, 000 8, 000, 000 6, 000, 000 Magazines I 9, 90f-, 000 9, 600, 000 7, 800, 000 Loudspeaker tapes 11.819 7,310 None Motion picture prints__ 1,514 655 600 Radio programs 1,271 1,048 450 'Television programsz 27 72 None 'The estimates provided in the Mar, 19, 1970, testimony wore based on volume of U.S. support for the GVel printed media program, 11HSPAO provided wripts 'rid culture-drama teem support to GVN television, ? Approved For Release 2001/11/15 : CIA-RDP73600296R000300240016-6 - -IS 3988 Approved For ReleastRMIgkoStkR WWW40016-6 March 29, 1971 8. (b) Do these totals include the propa- ganda materials put out by the U.S. military forces? If not, how much did the military produce last year? Where are these Materials printed? Military production, for which JUSPAO is not responsible, last year included: Category Quantity Where produced Leaflets 7.8 billion 1_. 7th Psy0P Group, Okinawa. Do 2.4 billion It_ 4th Psy0p Group, Vietnam. Pamphlets 0.5 million__ 718 Psy0p Group, Okinawa. Newspaper Not articles. applicable. Photographs do Posters 15.8 million._ 4th Psy0p Group, Vietnam. Magazines 1.9 million__ 7th Psy0p Group, Okinawa. Loudspeaker 1,327 4th Psy0p Group, Vietnam. tapes. Motion picture Not prints. applicable. Radio prograins_ 208 7th Psy0p Group, Okinawa. Television pro- Not giants. applicable. 'The estimate provided in the Mar. 19, 1970, testimony was based on (eitt, not United States military publication programs. 8. (c) Does JUSPAO' print materials of the Vietnamese government? How much of the GVN printed propaganda is printed in its own plants? It is estimated that during FY 1970, ap- proximately '70 percent of JUSPAO's printing output provides information support to OVN programs. Of the GVN's total support re- quirements. JUSPAO estimates that the OVN produces about 46 percent of the materials, 8. (d) Does JUSPAO produce materials for use by the Korean and Thai forces in Viet- Nam? Has it ever produced any materials relating to allegations of Korean atrocities against civilians? JUSPAO does not regularly produce ma- terials for vise by Korean and Thai forces. However, records list the following printed products: 11. (b) How much did the Vietnamese goo. ernment spend on these programs last year> How much is planned for this year? Iln millions] Category Estimate, 1969 1970 Ministry of Informatioa $9.6 $19.7 RVNAF Psy War activates 1 4.9 4.$ Total 14.5 24,6 I No detailed breakout of GVN funds expended tor 1969 is available. However, officials estimate that the amount is win- mately the sante as pc-crowed for the current year. 12. (a) How many U.S. personnel work directly in or with GVN agencies concerned with propaganda or information matters? U.S. civilians U.S. tnililsib JUSPAO 67 USMACV__ 101 167 _ Category Date Quantity How used Total_-_ 67 274 Two posters in Vietnamese 1968 30000 By Koreans troops. Paper flags, ROK, GVN, mai United States__ 1968 12,000 Do. 'This total includes IS NBC/1 contractual personnel. Booklet, in Korean 1969 15,000 By Korean troops involved In the Chieu Hol program. Poster, in Vietnamese 1968 50, 000 By Vietnamese Information SetvIce to reveal Thai assistance to Vietnam. 12. (b) How many Americans work in the JUSPAO has not produced any materials relating to allegations of Korean atrocities. 8. (e) How many publications, in English, concerning Viet-Nam have been produced by USIA and are currently in stock? Please pro- vide copies of these publications, informa- tion on the distribution and the cost of each. USIA has one such publication in stock, "Vietnamizing the Search for Peace," printed in 20,000 copies of which 19,270 were distrib- uted to 13 USIS posts in East and South Asia, and the remaining 280 copies held in stock. In addition, JUSPAO has one English- language publication in stock, "Viet-Nam 1970," printed for the GVN in 20,000 copies by the Regional Production Center, Manila, atribution was made to the GVN Ministry .il'zreign Affairs and 29 GVN diplomatic osts Washington), 11,800; GVN nstry oninformation, 6,500; 29 USIS posts whe-iyety are GVN diplomatic posts, 475 for inforination; RSC reserve stock, 1,000; JUSPAO reserve stock, 225. Cost of "Vietriamizing the Search for Peace" is .7 cents per copy, and "Viet-Nam ENO" is 20 cents per copy. 8. (f) How many of these publications do not bear the USIA imprint? Why? "Viet-Nam 1970" does not bear the USIA imprint but rather that of the GVN Ministry of Information. The publication was origi- nally published in Vietnamese (100,000 copies) at the GVN's request for GVN use; the subcequent English language verislon was likewise printed for GVN use. 9. (a) What facilities does the Armed Forces Radio and Television Network main- tain in Viet-Nam? Ito kilowatts] Rattle/ Radio/ Television/ Location AM power FM power ER power ? Quang Tr! 1 411 ?army 10 . 25 40 , Chu Lai 1 40 Pleiku 10 25 40 OM Nhon 10 25 40 Toy lloa , 40 Nita Tong 10 25 40 Saigon 50 100 240 Can The ii 011F translator. 9. (b) flow many hours is the Armed Forces TV station in operation daily cont pared with the operating hours for the GVN station? Armed Forces TV stations average 12 hours of daily operations. Three of the OVN TV sta- tions average four hours daily; the fourth station (Saigon) averages five hours. 9. (c) How many Vietnamese watch the Armed Forces TV network compared with the number who watch the GVN station? A comparison has not been established. 10. (a) How much has been spent, or is planned to be spent, by the USIA and other U.S. agencies, to help build the physical plants for the GVN radio and television, film, printing and other information programs? Since 1985 and projected to the completion of the current OVN projects, U.S. agencies have spent or plan to spend the following amounts: 4-station radio network, $6.84ial1- lion; television network, $8.2 million; motion picture center, $2.5 million; information printing house, 8234,000; other physical plants, none. ? 10. (b) HOW much has the GVN put up for each of these categories? Actual amounts earmarked for physical plants for GVN media facilities are not iden- tified per se in the GVN budget, However, for the period since 1965, the following monies, Including those for any physical plants, have been spent or earmarked for: radio, $8.3 million; television, $4.2 million; motion picture center, $2.7 million; informa- tion printing house, $1.8 million; and Min- istry of Information General Directories and the Vietnamese Information Service, $47.6 million. 11. (a) What was the total amount spent last year by the United States on all phases of the information and psychological war- fare program in Vietnam, including the costs for all aspects of military psychological op- erations? How much will be spent this year? Next year? lb n millions ol dollars] Category Esthuato - ? 1969 1970 1971 Joint U.S. Public Aftairs Office con- trolled programs _ __ 13.3 12.1 9, 7 U.S. military programs 14.6 10.7 (t) -_--------- Total 27.9 22.8 11971 funding level is still in the planning stage where some reduction is being considered. OVN radio network? Three JUSPAO advisors. /n addition, there Is one technical sdvisor assigned to the EVNAF radio broach, How many Americans work In the GVN television activities Sixteen contract ual advisors (National Broadcasting Cowpony, Inc.) and three other JUSPAO advisors In addition, there is one technical advisor assigned to the RVNAIr tel- evision branch. How many Americans in GVN films? Two JUSPAO advssors. 13. What is the purpose and scope of oper- ation Of "psychotogleal operations officers" attached to U.S. advisory teams in the pro- vinces? How many are there? They advise Vietrunese Information Serv- ice (VIS) and I tetnamese Army political warfare (PolWar) milts in the provinces on effective coordinal ed information/psycholog- ical operations in support of national and local Pacinication and Development goals. There are 31 civilians and military "psycho- logical and military "psychological opera- tions officers" at tached to U.S. advisory teams in the provinces to concentrate on the functions of the GVN civilian informa- tion services; an additional 43 military otti- cers serve as ruivi .or s to the GVN military political warfare cadre. 14. What control, if any, does the USIA have over the activ -Lies of the five Army tele- vision camera crews operating in Viet Natn that produce matt-rittls aimed at U.S. tele- visions audiences? None. 15. Have the Vie -Nam Information Serv- ices and other Vi 'I. Nam agencies dealing with propaganda mar ters been receptive to USIA advice? They have been i,euerally receptive to ad- vice in program, training, and engineering matters. Advice in administrative matters has been less eneel 16. (a) How many members of Viet-Nama National Assembly have Come to the United States in the last two years? How massy have had all or part of their expenses paid for by the United St.ttes? During the past 2 years, 3 Vietnamese sen- ators and 42 deputies visited the United States. Ten senators and 10 deputies traveled in whole or in p.m -t at U.S. Government expense. Of these 2,), six senators and five deputies were provided domestic travel ex- penses and per diens from the Department of Stale in response to invitations issued by members of the U.S. Congress. Approved For Release 2001/11/15 : CIA-RDP73600296R000300240016-6 ?Illarch 2ApOtt.kbd For ReleattC200AIL11115SCMADEC7OB00296R000,3100240016-6 396., Is. (b) DOCS the USIA sponsor rmy Viet- namese to come to the United States on speaking tours? If no, give details. None. 17,. (a) now mnny Vietnamese have been brought to the United States for study or mining (non-military) in the last five years under government auspices? Program 1965 1966 1961 1968 1969 Total felbrichtllays scholarships 9 Cleveland inter- national program 2 fastWest center scholarships 2 American field service scholarships 15 14 48 33 23 MID grants 101 92 412 433 186 Total ...... 135 119 470 473 214 6 0 0 Ii 2 3 2 2 5 7 5 2 16 11 21 133 1,230 1,411 IPartial grant. ' 17. (b) How many are here now? program! PulbrIght-Bays scholarship East-West Center scholarships ' American field service scholar- ships Television engineers to RCA In- stitute 'MAID grants Total 1 13 30 5 524 575 17. (c) How many arc programed to come this year/ Next Year? Program 1970 . 1971 Cleveland international program 2 2 fast?West Center scholarships 5 5 20 411 Amerinn Field Service scholarships 20 MID grants (new) '1 331 85010 grants (renowals) 384 448 ?_?._ Total 742 886 I Although new participants have been selected and funds obligated, they no authorized to depart Vietnam up lo 9 months alter the obligation date. 111110..1 By Mr. JACKSON (for himself and Mr. ALLOTT) (by request) : S. 1398. A bill to amend the Water Re- sources Planning Act to authorize in- creased appropriations. Referred to the Committee nn Interior and Insular Af- fairs. Mr. JACKSON. Mr. President, on be- half of the senior Senator from the State of Colorado (Mr. Acton.) and myself, I. send to the desk for appropriate refer- ence a bill to amend the Water Resources Planning Act to authorize increased ap- propriations. This legislation was submitted and recommended by the Water Resources Council, and I ask unanimous consent that the executive communication ac- companying the draft proposal be printed in the RECORD at this point in my re- marks. There being no Objection, the letter was ordered to be printed in the RECORD, as follows: WATER RESOURCES COUNCIL, Washington, D.O., March 11, 1911. Hon. SPIRO T. AGNEW, President of Senate Washington, D.C. , DEAR M. PRESIDENT: Enclosed is a proposed draft bill "to amend tho Water Resources Planning Act to authorize increased appro- priations." At present, the Act ('19 Stat. 244, 42 USC 1062 et seq.). contains a Ooralitned ceiling of $000,000 for the Council's admin- istration of the Act, consisting of a ceiling of $500,000 for Title I and $400,000 for the administration of Title III. The bill proposes to eliminate these ceilings so as to aCcomino- date the Administration's proposerisFY 1972 budget for the Connell and to permit any necessary future increase in funds that could be made,avaiinble. The separate authorization ceilings for the administrntion of Titles I and III have be somewhat artificial and imprac- tical In actual operation, and we believe that the authorization for. the Council's admin. Istration of the Act .should be combined as proposed III the bill. This change will result ln more eincient administration and more accurately reflect the Council's organiza- tional structure. Authorization ecIlIngs for river basin com- missions established under Title II of the Act would mat be changed by this bill. It would, however, clarify the budgetary pro- cedure for such commissions by providing explicitly that the salaries and expenses of commission chairmen are subject to the Title II ceilings. Tho ceiling on grant funds to States, set at $5,000,000 In the Act, would not be af- fected by this bill. . The Office of Budget and Management ad- vises that this bill would bo In accordance with the program of the President. Sincerely yours, ROGERS C. B. MORTON, Chairman. By Mr. JACKSON (for himself and Mr. ALLOrr) (by request) : S.1369. A bill to establish within the Department of the Interior the position of an additional Assistant Secretary of the Interior. Referred to the Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs. Mr. JACKSON. Mr. President, I intro- duce, for myself and the senior Senator from Colorado (Mr. ALLOTT), by request, a bill submitted and recommended by the Secretary of the Interior to establish within the Department of the Interior tho position of an additional Assistant Secretary of the Interior. I ask unanimous consent that the text of the letter transmitting the proposed legislation be printed at this'point in my remarks. There being no objection, the letter was ordered to be printed in the RECORD, as follows: U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY, ? Washington, D.C., March 23, 1971. Ron. SPIRO T. AGNEW, President of the Senate, Washington, D.C. DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: There is enclosed a draft bill "To provide that the unincor- porated territories of Guam and the Virgin Islands shall each be represented in Congress by a Delegate to the House of Representa- tives." We recommend that the enclosed draft bill be referred to the appropriate committee for consideration and that it be enacted. This proposal is identical to RR. 10413, a bill which was favorably reported out by the Committee on Interior and Insular Af- fairs of the Home of Representatives during the 01st Congress. This is a proposal that Is acknowledged to be peculiarly within the province of the Congress since it concerns the membership In the Rouse of Representa- tives. We have 'included both territories in the Same bill since apart from their acquisition, Guam having been acquired from Spain' in 1898 and the Virgin Islands having been pur- chased from Denmark in 1917, their status and development) lel one another. Both Guinn and the Virsin Ishii-Ai are organized, but unincorporatert. ,erritories of tins United States; 1.e., the C,rr;rec3 hat; provided, for each of them a 10,-tral strurture of govern- ment through pirn.,g^ of an organic act. Tho resident S of both I., rrttorie::: are American citizens. The territories air' governed by locally elected legislatures airs recently inaugurated their first elected Governors on January 4, 1971, In each area. t ie judiciary is sepasate from the executive nod legislative' branches of government,. FelErn al District Courts have been established in Guam and the Virgin Islands. In the Virgin 1;]ands, the elected legisla- ture has shown an irt?rensIngly mature grasp of its responsibilities, and, politically, the people have n men ninisful party system. The territorial government has greatly CX1Y1 tided Lior scope of services, and the private cc maorny hos likewise prom- perecl, largely beclitm of the Increase of tourism and of mairsiractoring enterprises of ' various sizes. ? Similar political ntaturity has be-an evi- denced by the les-1st:1111re and the people of Guam. Guam is an area of full employ- ment and is actively engaged in diversifying its economy In order to be less dependent upon the defense establishments, located there. Normally, neither t-rritory approaches the Congress for direct 7, pproprlationa to support its governmental astivities. The present ex- ception is Guam's rsquests for loans and grants authorized Is connection with tho re- habilitation program authorised by Public Law 88-170, as ami.nited by Public Law DO- 511. This is not to soy that either territory Is entirely self-suppsrsing, but only that each of the two terrItorir tt !a able to finance its af- fairs through revenires generated locally, either directly or infirectly, and retained and expended pursuant to Congressional au- thorization. ' We believe each of I he territories of Guam and the Virgin Wands should linve rep- resentation in the 'tfrinse of nepresentatives in tho form of a non-voting delegate, Elicit Congress considers slid acts upon a variety of proposals which, if enacted, affect the ter- ? ritories and their pronle in varying degrees, sometimes only reou,tely, but often in a direct and substrini.Int way. We submit the citizen residents of toes() territories are as entitled as the .citizens of the several States to express their views respecting the actions of the Congress thsough a duly accredited and accepted member of the Home of Rep- resentatives, albeit one with limited powers. The enclosed draft bill, if enacted, would provide for the reprstientation we suggest. It Provides for the prsuitar election of a non- voting delegate to the House of Representa- tives from each of the named territories, ? whose term would bv two years, and who would receive the sane compensation, al- lowances and benefits as a Member of Con- gress, and such privileges as might be af- forded him by the Rules of the Douse of Representatives. Thi, draft bill sets forth cer- tain criteria and procedures for candidates and the manner of election, but leaves tho majority of the details of election in the hands of the local lerislatures. The Ornee of Management and Budget has adVised Us that these- is no objection to tho presentation of this draft bill from the standpoint of the Administration's progrjun. ' Sincerely yours, :itor.Lis M. Assistant Secretary of the Interior. 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