JOURNAL - OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL TUESDAY - 21 DECEMBER 1971

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Journal - Office of Legislative Counsel Page 2
Tuesday - 21 December 1971
3. (Secret - GLC) Met with Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate
Appropriations Committee, and briefed him in detail on the military
situation in Laos. Woodruff said that on the strength of Mr. Maury's
briefing last Tuesday he advised Senators Ellender and Milton Young
prior to their departure from Washington that the situation was very
bad and could deteriorate completely in a matter of weeks.
Woodruff said he had also briefed Chairman Ellender on the
case. The Chairman expressed interest and compassion for
and asked Woodruff about his physical and mental condition.
I have given Woodruff a rundown on this so that he can report back
when the Chairman returns from his trip.
4. (Secret - GLC) Met with Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate
Armed Services Committee, and briefed him in detail on the military
situation in Laos and indicated that we were anxious for Chairman Stennis
to be fully informed. Braswell said he had briefed the Chairman prior
to his departure to Mississippi and would be talking with him again
shortly and would bring him up-to-date at that time.
I made arrangements with Braswell for him to meet with Colonel
White, Mr. Colby, Mr. Maury and myself for lunch tomorrow.
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COMMUNIST THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES
THROUGH THE CARIBBEAN
TESTIMONY OF ROMAN GONZALEZ-PARDO
HEARINGS
SUBCOMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE THE
ADMINISTRATION OF THE INTERNAL SECURITY
ACT AND OTHER INTERNAL SECURITY LAWS
COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY
UNITED STATES SENATE
NINETY-SECOND CONGRESS
PART 24
U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
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COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY
JAMES 0. EASTLAND, Mississippi, Chairman
JOHN L. McCLELLAN, Arkansas
SAM J. ERVIN, JR., North Carolina
PHILIP A. HART, Michigan
EDWARD M. KENNEDY, Massachusetts
BIRCH BAYH, Indiana
QUENTIN N. BURDICK, North Dakota
ROBERT C. BYRD, West Virginia
JOHN V. TUNNEY, California
ROMAN L. HRUSKA, Nebraska
HIRAM L. FONG, Hawaii
HUGH SCOTT, Pennsylvania
STROM THURMOND, South Carolina
MARLOW W. COOK, Kentucky
CHARLES MCC. MATHIAS, JR., Maryland
EDWARD J. GURNEY, Florida
SUBCOMMITTEE To INVESTIGATE THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE INTERNAL
SECURITY ACT AND OTHER INTERNAL SECURITY LAWS
JAMES O. EASTLAND, Mississippi, Chairman
JOHN L. McCLELLAN, Arkansas HUGH SCOTT, Pennsylvania
SAM J. ERVIN, JR., North Carolina STROM THURMOND, South Carolina
BIRCH BAYH, Indiana MARLOW W. COOK, Kentucky
EDWARD J. GURNEY, Florida
J. G. SOURwINE, Chief Counsel
SAMUEL J. SCOTT, Associate Counsel
WARREN LITTMAN, Associate Counsel
JoHx It. NORPEL, Jr., Director of Research
ALPONso L. TARABOCHIA, Chief Investigator
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COMMUNIST THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES
THROUGH THE CARIBBEAN
TESTIMONY OF ROMAN GONZALEZ-PARDO
U.S. SENATE,
SUBCOMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE THE
ADMINISTRATION OF THE INTERNAL SECURITY ACT
AND OTHER INTERNAL SECURITY LAWS
OF THE COMMITTEE .ON THE JUDICIARY,
Miami, Fla.
The subcommittee met, pursuant to call at 2:35 p.m. in room 1510,
Federal Building, Miami, Fla., Senator Edward Gurney presiding.
Also present: J. G. Sourwine, chief counsel; and Alfonso L. Tarabo-
chia, chief investigator.
Senator GURNEY. This hearing of the Internal Security Subcommit-
tee of the Committee on the Judiciary, U.S. Senate, will come to order.
For the benefit of those people present, the gentleman on my right
is Mr: Sourwine, who is a staff member, chief staff member on our sub-
committee. To the right is the witness, Senor Gonzalez-Pardo, lately
of Cuba, and at the end of the table is a staff in Mr. Al Tarabo-
chia, who will be the interpreter today.
If you will stand up, Mr. Tarabochia.
(Thereupon, Mr. Alfonso Tarabochia was duly sworn as interpreter.)
Roman Gonzalez-Pardo, being first duly sworn, was examined and
testified upon his oath through the interpreter.
Senator GURNEY. Will the witness please state his full name?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Roman Gonzalez-Pardo.
Senator GURNEY. And your address?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. 290 Northwest 72d Avenue.
Senator GURNEY. Present employment?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. At this time I haven't begun to work.
Senator GURNEY. When and where were you born?
Mr..GONZALEZ-PARDO. I was born in Sancti Spiritus, Province of
Las Villas, Cuba.
Senator GURNEY. And when did you come to the United States?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. At the end of the month of June.
Senator GURNEY. Is that as a result of a defection from Cuba to the
United States?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Exactly a month after our escape which took
place via Mexico.
Senator GURNEY.. Would you state for the subcommittee your
education?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes, Sir, I can.
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Senator GURNEY. Would you please state it?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Specifically what?
Senator GURNEY. Just very briefly your education, public school,
university.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I studied high school in Cuba and began to
study for a career in medicine and intern duty at the military hospital
in Havana.
Senator GURNEY. Did you attend the Cuban Naval Academy in
Mariel?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. No, sir.
Senator GURNEY. When did you leave medical school, and why?
MR. GONZALEZ-PARDO. When the fight against Batista was
intensified.
Senator GURNEY. Did you join the Castro party as part of his
movement?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. After the unification of all the movements,
after which Castro took general leadership.
'Senator GURNEY. Was that during this period in the mountains in
Cuba?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes, sir.
Senator GURNEY. In what year?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. 1957.
Senator GURNEY. What was your rank in Castro's revolutionary
army?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I was captain of Company H.
Senator GURNEY. Would you just state very briefly your part in
the Cuban revolution under Castro?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. There were many, many facets I have to
say, but specifically, having been the leader of the student movement
in my province, I was in charge of the organization of the revolutionary
element after the arrival of Camilo Cienfuegos and Che Guevara in
the Province of Las Villas.
Senator GURNEY. Were you ever a member of the Communist
Party?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. No.
Senator GURNEY. Were you a Communist sympathizer?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. No, sir.
Senator GURNEY. In 1960, were you appointed as Coordinator of
Maritime Fishing Operations?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. In the Province of Pinar del Rio, not
specifically of the fishing operations, but of all the harbors of the
Province of Pinar del Rio, and under this assignment I also had that of
the loading of sugar and the rest of the commerce or traffic, commercial
traffic to the United States.
Senator GURNEY. But later, a little later, you were assigned as
coordinator of the fishing activities; is that correct?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes, of all the activities.
Senator GURNEY. And when and where was this?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. During the year of 1961. Castro would
elaborate and send to me plans having to do with fishing, in which he
had a specific interest in being under his personal direction.
Senator GURNEY. Where were you located at that time? Where
were your headquarters?
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Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. In different locations, Cayo Largo,.-in Bata-
banb, Girbn, Cardenas, Mariel, and Havana where everything was
centralized.
Senator GURNEY. And at this time-was this in 1962?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Progressively from 1961, 1962, and 1963.
It was a progressive operation.
Senator GURNEY. What was your final title and office in the Castro
government?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Director of the Special. Plans for Fishing and
Personal Delegate of Castro in the Department of Fishing that had
been established within the Institute of Agrarian Reform in Cuba.
Senator GURNEY. This was under the direct personal supervision of
Fidel Castro; is that correct?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. This direction did not involve any partic-
ular organization but was located in the personal offices of Fidel
Castro.
Senator GURNEY. How long did you.hold this office, until what year?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Until the end of 1965.
Senator GURNEY. What happened then?
.Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I was arrested in 1966.
Senator GURNEY. Why?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. For . having been involved in a conspiracy
against Fidel Castro's life.
Senator GURNEY. Would you amplify that conspiracy, tell us what
that was about?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO.. The specific facts are well known because
among those involved, there was a major who was very well known in
the university student circles, by the name of Rolando Cubela, who
had been the Chief of the Second Front of Escambray.
Senator GURNEY. Were you involved in this plot?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. YeS.
Senator GURNEY. Can you describe in what fashion?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The attempted assassination had been
planned by us quite sometime ahead, I mean, ahead of time. But I had
differences of opinion with Cubela about the place that had been
chosen. to carry it out because the intentions of Cubela were to do it
during one of the baseball practice games that Castro used to play
early in the morning.
I preferred to do it during one of the frequent underwater, fish-
ing expeditions that Castro would go to.
Senator GURNEY. Is your testimony then that you withdrew from
the attempt before it was made?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Cubela decided to do it on his own
but I put-prepared a motorboat so they could escape from the
country after the fact.
Senator GURNEY. What happened after you were arrested? Did
they put. you in jail, and if so, how long?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I spent 60 days incommunicado. in the
Department of Security of State.
Senator GURNEY. And then what happened after that?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I was sentenced to 3 years, and I was sent
to the concentration camp of Camaguey.
Senator GURNEY. How long were you there?
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Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Fifteen months.
Senator GURNEY. And then what did you do after that?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. They let me out on parole.
Senator GURNEY. How did they let you off so easily if you were
engaged in a plot to assassinate Castro?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Because Cubela during the interrogation
exonerated me.
Senator GURNEY. What happened to him?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. His sentence was commuted from that of
death to 30 years in prison.
Senator GURNEY. What happened to the others involved in the
plot? How many were involved?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. There were five. The other four were
sentenced to 25 years of imprisonment.
Senator GURNEY. Who were they, their names?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Gallareta, another major who had fought
with Cubela, and two more whose names I don't remember right now.
The other major's name is Guin.
Senator GURNEY. When were you released from prison now?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. 1967.
Senator GURNEY. And what did you do then upon release?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. While I was still in jail I advised my wife to
start proceedings to leave the country with our daughters.
Senator GURNEY. Did they leave, and where did they go?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. When I got out of the concentration camp,
I had to make believe that I had been separated from her, estranged
from her, because they authorized her departure but not the departure
of the girls, and then I went fishing as a simple fisherman in the Fishing
Cooperative of Cortez in the Province of Pinar Del Rfo.
Senator GURNEY. But your family did get away from Cuba?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes, they finally managed to get out, and
they have been in Spain for 19 months now.
Senator GURNEY. Do you plan to bring them to the United States?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. As on as possible because my youngest one
is very ill.
Senator GURNEY. Tell us how you escaped from Cuba, when and in
what manner.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. It was a plan very well prepared because
after the departure of my family from the country, the permit that had
been issued to me to go fishing was revoked.
In addition, I was arrested two more times.
Senator GURNEY. What for?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The first time because they thought I was
involved in an escape of prisoners which had taken place in the jail of
Sandino in Pinar Del Rio where the prisoners from the Isle of Pines
had been transferred.
And the other time was because-over a launch that made a landing
in the same area, and there was an encounter with the border guards,
during which some Communist guards were killed, and they supposed
that f was involved in this affair.
Senator GURNEY. These were short imprisonments?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The last one, they didn't let me go until
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they. caught two of the persons who had disembarked and they, during
their interrogation, declared that I had nothing to do with it.
Senator GURNEY. Let's go on and describe how you escaped to this
country.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The escape took place because I had
planned it to take place from a beach which is very frequently visited
by Fidel Castro and which is located very near the largest base of
tanks in the Province of Pinar Del Rio. The tank base is called Jejenes.
Senator GURNEY. Describe the escape. Where did you go? Who was
with you?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. An old captain of a fishing boat who had
worked with me offered to help me escape from Cuba, and, naturally,
bring along his family. While I was at it, I brought out the parents
of my wife who are old.
We planned for a day that had certain characteristics involving the
moon because aboard the vessel there were three Communists.
From the trucks that were parked at the base, we managed to steal
a military truck. On this truck there was an old comrade of his who
had been incarcerated and had been First Secretary at the Embassy
of Cuba in Japan, with his wife and son. And they were transported
on that truck as if that truck were going toward the base.
The captain had promised me that at four in the afternoon the boat
would be close to the shore with the excuse that he was going to pick
up some coconuts in a coconut grove that was nearby.
An hour ahead of time I got in an old Chevrolet that I had and got
to the shore and I waited hidden in the mangroves the arrival of the
boat.
The truck had instructions to follow an hour afterwards. When the
truck arrived I had already effected the assault on the-when the
captain of the boat came ashore to go to the coconut groves, he had
brought along the three Communists who were aboard, and I captured
them by leveling the rifle.
We went aboard and we tied them up because the boat, on account
of its size and depth could not come very close to the shore.
Senator GURNEY. Where did the boat go?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. We made a voyage of 400 miles to try to
avoid the base of torpedo boats located in the Isle of Pines.
In addition, on the second day of the voyage, a merchant ship flying
the Soviet flag came near but we changed our course in case it would
communicate our directions. This happened around 5 o'clock in the
afternoon, and then night came. We arrived at Puerto Morelos in
the Yucatan Peninsula the following day at 11 o'clock in the morning.
Senator GURNEY. And then what happened? Did you go around
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. We underwent the necessary investigation
by the Mexican authorities and we were transferred to Mexico City.
Senator GURNEY. And from there?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I crossed the border and came to the
United States.
Senator GURNEY. Where did you cross the border?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I crossed the border near the city named
Del Rio.
Senator GURNEY. Is the Rio Grande River there? How did you get
across the river? By boat or raft?
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Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. No, no, I did it clandestinely because the
river is very low at this time and we crossed over by wading.
Senator GURNEY. Waded across. And then from Del Rio, where did
you go?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. San Antonio, Tex.
Senator GURNEY. Did you finally make your way here from there?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes. I called by telephone and they sent me
the tickets and I came to Miami.
Senator GURNEY. When did you arrive in Miami?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The `26th of June.
Senator GURNEY. This year?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes, sir.
Senator GURNEY. And surrendered yourself at that time to the
Immigration?
.Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Immediately.
Senator GURNEY. Now let's go back to your job as director of the
Cuban fishing fleet. Did you ever issue orders as head of the fishing
fleet to violate the U.S. territorial waters?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Do you specifically refer to the case that took
place in 1964?
Senator GURNEY. Well, tell us about that.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Well, the orders were given by me but
under instructions from Fidel Castro.
Senator GURNEY. And what were these orders?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The specific orders were since this plan had
been premeditated, preconceived since the year before, that part of
the vessels would violate the territorial waters of the United States.
Senator GURNEY. What was the purpose of this?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The reason was to create a state of friction
or tension with the United States, which is the method utilized in
international politics, and in addition, to distract attention in order
to allow more freedom for the movement of infiltration for the sub-
versive movements in Latin America, which at that time had reached
a peak.
Senator GURNEY. In other words, this was done to embarrass and
provoke the U.S. Government, is that correct?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Naturally, because anything like that would
automatically make Cuba the victim.
Senator GURNEY. Describe exactly what happened.
Mr. GONAALEZ-PARDO. In addition to this operation which took
place in the Dry Tortugas, there has been another prepared for the
coast along the Mississippi River.
Senator GURNEY. Let's find out about the first one first. How many
boats were involved and exactly what was done?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Exactly?
Senator GURNEY. Yes.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Four vessels were sent, two of them would
remain in international waters and the other two would enter the
territorial waters.
Specifically, one of the boats had aboard an intelligence agent, took
down its Cuban flag and penetrated deeply into the territorial waters
of the United States. It was the Cardenas XIV.
Senator GURNEY. Did that boat interfere with U.S. fishing vessel
operations?
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Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes, they had an incident with the American
fishing vessels.
Senator GURNEY. What happened to the Cuban boats?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. At that time we were receiving the commu-
nications by radio at the headquarters from the boats which were
taking part in the action that the boats were taken toward the naval
base in Key West.
Senator GURNEY. Did you have any discussions prior to this fishing
boat incident with the Russians about what you were going to do?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. No; after the operation.
Senator. GURNEY. What did you tell them after the operation?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Afterwards when it became necessary to
have an explanation to send to the-to Khrushchev, Castro sent for
me and explained that he was the one who had to participate in
the conversations.
He was not to participate but to-I would in person meet with the
Soviet Ambassador and have to do the explaining.
Senator GURNEY. In other words, you went to the Soviet Ambas-
sador and told him:why you were creating this fishing incident?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I met with Soviet Ambassador Aleksandr
Alekseiev in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Senator GURNEY. What was his reaction; anything?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Following the instructions given to me by
Fidel Castro, [insisted with the Soviet Ambassador that we had been
apprehended while engaged in fishing operations in international
waters, and this was the way the report was prepared for Moscow.
Senator GURNEY. In other words, the Russian Ambassador wasn't
all . hat unhappy that Castro was up to this kind of business?
Mr, GONZALEZ-PARDO. The Ambassador, when he. left Cuba, had
been attracted to the sphere of influence in Cuba, in other words, he
believed everything. He believed. all these incidents like the attacks on
the vessels.
Senator GURNEY. When you were director of the Cuban fishing
fleet,. did these fishing boats. ever engage in the. transportation of
arms or weapons from Cuba to other countries?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. All the movements, transportation of
the arms and personnel from Cuba to Latin America for subversive
activities. There was no other way of doing it but by means of the
fishing vessels.
Senator GURNEY. This went on all the time under your supervision?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Not specifically under my supervision be-
cause many of these boats had been attached. to the. Intelligence Sec-
tion. On many. occasions when these were not available, then we
had . to make available boats. for that purpose. There : were several
cases when we had.the help of Soviet ships which were going in the
direction where. those arms and: vessels were going, and many times
they would carry big launches aboard with their cranes and at a pre-
arranged point in the Caribbean, they would make a rendezvous with
the fishing vessels.
Senator GURNEY. In other words, the arms were put on board
Russian freighters in Cuba and then unloaded to Cuban fishing vessels
later on, and then the Cuban fishing vessels took them on to their
destination, is that it?
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Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes; because this offered more security.
Senator GURNEY. What countries and what ports did Cuban fishing
vessels take arms and ammunition to in Central and South America?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. To countries, yes; but to ports, no.
They were taken to countries but not inside a harbor.
Senator GURNEY. How were the weapons landed?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. They would land the weapons at locations
that were far away and often normally inaccessible, and elements of
the country who were to receive them would wait for them.
We used this tactic in Venezuela and Colombia, in Guatemala,
Mexico, and the infiltration movement into the United States.
Senator GURNEY. Tell us more about the so-called infiltration move-
ment into the United States of these weapons.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. With the United States was the simplest one
of all because Cuba maintains a number of vessels constantly in the
Florida Straits, and any small boat that leaves the U.S. coast can
rendezvous with these vessels in just a few hours.
Afterwards when England authorized the Cuban boats, after an
agreement, a conversation the British Ambassador and I had, there
was an authorization for the Cuban vessels, the contact of Cuban
boats with boats from the United States became easier because it
took place in the Bahamas.
Senator GURNEY. Any particular island?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. No, nothing in particular. The contact can
be made anywhere because there isn't that much surveillance.
Senator GURNEY. How was the communication between Cuba and
the people in the United States in contact with and the contact that
these Cuban fishing vessels made, what means of communication?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. This was done mainly through previous
arrangements or radio communications.
The small boats, the Cuban small boats are called "points of observa-
tion and contact" with the excuse of tuna fishing in the Gulf Stream.
They serve as a bridge for this type of operation.
Senator GURNEY. Were you ever on any vessels that transported
arms from Cuba to some other country?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes, sir.
Senator GURNEY. Would you describe that?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Specifically the trip that we made to
Mexico.
Senator GURNEY. Go into more detail on what happened.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. This was one of the initial trips that we
made with the Lambda-type boats to the Mexican coast. The day
before the departure I received instructions that Major Pineiro* would
send some things to be picked up by our consul in Merida, and that
our consul would come to meet us in another boat. The night before
the vessel was ready to leave the Intelligence Unit hid between the
decks approximately 30 weapons of U.S. manufacture, M-1's, M-2's, or Manuel rsM vjice minister andit technical vice minister of the minist y of interiorf (Mthe Communist ININT). Chief of the g neral
directorate of intelligence (D GI) the Cuban equivalent of the Soviet-KGB. In the early 1950's he attended
Columbia University in New York where he met and married Lorna Nell Burdsall, a professional dancer
and reported. to be a member of the Communist Party, U.S.A. Pifieiro speaks English fluently and has a
reputation of thinking of himself as irresistible to American women visiting Cuba. He is known to have
handled personally cases of American defectors to Cuba such as Robert Williams et al.
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Thompson Submachine Guns and some other type of weapon, all of
American manufacture.
. Senator GURNEY. And where were these weapons landed? Where
was. the transfer made and how?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The landing of the weapons could not be
completed because we were stopped by a unit of the Mexican Navy
and we were taken to the base in the Isla Mujeres, the Mexican Naval
Base there.
There they seized a number of Soviet weapons that we were carrying
for the defense of the boat in case of attack, and we remained
under custody for approximately 12 days.
Senator GURNEY.. Were there any other cases that you were
personally involved in weapons smuggling?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Personally, no more.
Senator GURNEY. You mentioned that your boats were used fre-
quently by Cuban Intelligence for the purpose of transporting weap-
ons. Did you work very closely with the head of the Cuban Intelli-
gence in the arrangement of the operation?
Mr. GONZALEZARDO. Not too closely because their method is.not
that of that absolute trust but, yes, I had to give them the fishing
boats so they could use them.
I gave them Lambda-type boats, Cardenas-type boats, two boats
bought in Poland and other units, some of them fast, some others not
so fast.
They also would use the personnel they considered as being trust-
worthy.
Senator GURNEY. Who is the head of the Cuban Intelligence
Service?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Major Pifieiro, better known as Barbaroja
or Red Beard.
Senator GURNEY. And you know him very well?
Mr. GONZ&LEZ-PARDO. Now they have created another unit which
is the Counterintelligence, whose chief is an old Communist whose
name is Mendes Comines.
Senator GURNEY. Your relations with Pineiro were such that he
could call up and ask for two or three boats and you knew that they
were going to be used and assigned for the purpose of transporting
weapons? .
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Undoubtedly, because for them it was a
question of tactics, to utilize. a vessel, a boat that had been working
in an area in normal fishing operations, and afterwards they would
take it to utilize it for-their own operations.
Senator GURNEY. Now let's get to the transporting of people. Were
your fishing vessels used to bring people from the Latin American
countries to Cuba?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes, almost all of them.
Senator GURNEY. And for what purpose were these people brought
to Cuba on your fishing vessels?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Principally or mainly were the men who
belonged to the guerrilla movement in Latin America. It was very
difficult for them to come via normal means by air or otherwise.
I remember that one of our fishing boats brought to Havana
Turcios Lima when the Guatamalan guerrilla movement was at its
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peak, and subsequently a delegation to the Tricontinental Conference
was brought to Cuba on a fishing boat.
Senator GURNEY. What countries were involved besides those
you mentioned, Guatemala and Venezuela?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Colombia, Puerto Rico, Mexico, Mexico in
a very high degree, and the United States.
Senator GURNEY. Could you give us some idea of how many
people were brought into Cuba for these training purposes during
the time you were head of the fishing fleet?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. It is impossible because there were so
many.
Senator GURNEY. Was the number in the thousands?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. If we have to take into account 4 or 5
years, I would say thousands.
Senator GURNEY. And your services were also used to carry these
same people from Cuba back to their countries after they had finished
their training, is that correct?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PRADO. Many times they utilized other ways be-
cause it wasn't convenient to return by the same way they had come.
Especially when they were high placed leaders of the guerrilla move-
ment.
Senator GURNEY. -But some were transported in this fashion?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes.
Senator GURNEY. I suppose some went out by air.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. They would return by plane to Colombia
or Mexico.
Senator GURNEY. Do you recall an incident in 1964 where you
were ordered to send one of your vessels to meet a small boat off
Key West for the purpose of picking up two U.S. citizens?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes. This happened before the incident,
the Key West incident.
Senator GURNEY. Who were these two people?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I don't know who they were but I know
that I was given orders to obtain four boats near the Key West area,
near the coast of Key West. There were four Cardenas boats.
Senator GURNEY. Do you know why these men were to be picked
up?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Undoubtedly because they were con-
nected with intelligence operations because they were taken to Pineiro.
Senator GURNEY. Did he meet the boat or one of his people meet
the boat, do you know?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The boat went directly to Havana. They
had left from Varadero and Cardenas. When they arrived they were
received by the section that was responsible for bringing them into
Cuba.
Senator GURNEY. And it is your testimony that the number of
boats involved off Key West and the arrangements were so elaborate
that these were pretty important people, is that what I gather?
Mr. GONZALES-PARDO. Undoubtedly, yes.
Senator GURNEY. How many boats are there in the Cuban fishing
fleet?
. Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The fleet in general already has more than
800 boats. Taking into account that there is a number of these boats
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that have been transferred to a permanent base in the Canary Islands
and another one that is operating across the coast of French Guiana.
Senator GURNEY. How many of these boats were made available
to the Intelligence Service at any one time?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I personally delivered approximately 20
that never returned to our fleet
Senator GURNEY. How many?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Twenty. Others I would loan to them and
they would return them in a month, 2 months or 3 months.
Senator GURNEY. And then on other occasions your own boats,
while they were under your control and fishing, were also used in
these intelligence operations, is that correct?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes, sir.
Mr. SOURWINE. May I inquire?
Senator GURNEY. Go ahead.
Mr. SOURWINE. Is it your testimony that Cuba sent arms into the
United States?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I don't believe that the sending of arms to
the United States is necessary but, yes, there has been training given.
Mr. SOURWINE. I thought I heard you say that arms had been sent
to the United States. That is the first testimony of that nature we have
had so far as I know.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. There is a possibility that the persons who
received training may have brought back some, but because these
weapons could be obtained over here easily, there was no reason to
send weapons into the United States.
Mr. SOURWINE. Many thousands of weapons have been sent from
the United States into Cuba. You know this, don't you?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes.
Mr. SOURWINE. It doesn't make sense that there would be a
smuggling operation set up to smuggle arms back into the United
States, does it?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. In their majority these arms must have
been used for operations in Latin America with the exception of the
Belgian weapons that were sent to Venezuela.
Mr. SOURWINE. When you gave yourself up to the Immigration
Service in Miami, did you make a statement?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Only about my occupation and entering
illegally.
Mr. SoURwiNE. Is that a copy of the statement that you gave
[indicating] ?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. This is it, yes. It is signed.
Mr. SOURWINE. This is your signature [indicating]?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes.
Mr. SoURwiNE. May this go in the record?
Senator GURNEY. Yes, it will be received as exhibit 1.
(The exhibit referred to is retained in the files of the subcommittee.)
Mr. SOURWINE. Are you aware that in this statement you said you
crossed the Rio Grande River in Del Rio, Tex., on a raft?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Exactly.
Mr. SOURWINE. Did you cross the river on a raft or did you wade
across?
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Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Afterwards I explained to the person who
questioned me the manner that I used to cross the river.
Mr. SOURWINE. Well, how did you cross the river'
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Utilizing false papers that were made
available to me by Mexicans.
Senator GURNEY. I think what Mr. Sourwine is asking is: by raft or
by foot?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I crossed in a car on the International
Bridge.
Mr. SOUxwINE. You have now told the Immigration Service, and
you swore to it, that you crossed on a raft. Earlier today you testified
that you waded across.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. We had obtained the border crossing
cards, the Mexican border crossing cards, because there were other
people, and I thought that would be better to give the information
directly to the authorities.
I was-I had the experience of Mexico of a number of officials
who were openly sympathizing with the Castro regime, and this
was one of the reasons for me to cross into the United States as
rapidly as possible, and in addition the place where they had given
us the majority of those refugees were Communists.
Mr. SOURWINE. What does this have to do with, how did you cross
the river?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. This is the first time that I came to the
United States. I arrived at 11 o'clock in the morning. I went to the
offices of the Cuban Refugee Center.
Mr. SoURwINE. In Del Rio?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. No; here in Miami.
Mr. SOURWINE. Whoa. What he is saying now is not of interest at
this.point.
I want to go back to Del Rio, Tex. How did he get across the Rio
Grande?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. We crossed the river after having paid the
bribery with Mexican boarding passes.
Mr. SOURw1NE. In an automobile?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. In an automobile.
Senator GURNEY. Where does the wading come into this?
Mr. TARABOCHIA. He says at the moment that he gave his statement
to the immigration authorities in the United States, he didn't have
the confidence, he was not willing to trust them and tell them the truth,
but afterwards he told them exactly what happened.
Mr. SouRwINE. Were you willing to tell us the truth this afternoon?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. And not only that, but I have explained
this as it happened to the investigators who talked to me afterwards.
Mr. SOURWINE. Now explain to us why you told us this afternoon
that you waded across the river.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Because I-this question, I didn't know
that you had an interest to know for an explanation of how it
happened.
Mr. SOURwINE. I am going to make a guess and ask you if it
isn't true. My guess is that you had somebody in the United States
who helped you make the crossing and helped you get from Texas
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to Miami and you are trying to protect that person or those persons;
am I right?
Mr. &N. ZALEZ-PARDO. The only help that I received was monetary
help, and I received it from my sister.
The crossing of the river in Mexico is offered in the same offices of
the Ministry of Interior of Mexico.
Senator GURNEY. What is that? I lost that.
Mr. TARARCCHIA. What he said is that in the offices of the Mexican
Ministry of Interior, a person can obtain means to cross the river
illegally.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. While I was in the Mexican Immigration
Office, a man-I saw a man who was standing over there observing
me.
When I left and went outside, this gentleman told me that for
$200 he would help me to cross the border.
Mr. SOURWINE. -Did he?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes, we did it but not with him in
particular.
Senator GURNEY. How did you do it? Explain it.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Another individual to whom we paid money.
Mr. SOURWINE. Who was that?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. To whom we paid $250.
Mr. SOURWINE. Is this somebody in Mexico or somebody in the
United States?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. In Mexico.
Mr. SouRWINE. Was it $250 Mexican-not dollars? How many
pesos did you pay or was it actually paid in dollars?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. In American money.
Mr SouRwiNE. Where did you get the American money?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The American money was sent from here
and it was paid there.
Mr. SOURWINE. Sent to Mexico City?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Sent to Mexico City.
Mr. SouRWINE. Who sent the money?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. My sister.
Mr. SOURWINE. Where does she live?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Here.
Mr. SOURWINE. She was living here at that time?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. She has been living here for 18 years.
Mr. SOURWINE. And what is her name?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Clara Lopoz.
Mr. SOURWINE. And her address?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The same one as mine.
Mr. SOURWINE. And how did you get in touch with her?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. When I arrived in Mexico.
Mr. SOURWINE. Writing, telephone?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. By telephone, and my brother-in-law came
to see us down in Mexico with the money-no, the money. was sent
afterward because at the time we didn't know-this was done because
we believed that the requirements for coming into the United States
would take place within a reasonable time, but the Mexico authorities
let us know that we could stay there only a limited period.
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Mr. SOURWINE. Now we are up to Del Rio. I understand the
testimony is you crossed the bridge in an automobile; is that correct?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. In an automobile.
Mr. SOURwINE. What papers did you have that you showed to the
American immigration authorities on the other side?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. A small card that the Mexicans gave us and
when you cross the, border, you show it to the immigration authorities.
Mr. SOURWINE. This was furnished by the person who got the $250?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The same person only that he waits the
opportune moment when a person on the other side is not too-is not
paying too much attention.
Mr. SOURwINE. What license on the automobile; Mexican or--
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Mexican.
Mr. SOURWINE. Mexican automobile? How many people entered?
Mr. GONAZLEZ-PARDO. Four.
Mr. SOURwINE. Did the driver take the car back to Mexico?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. He left us at the hotel in Del Rio.
Mr. SouRWINE. How did you get from Del Rio to San Antonio?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. We stayed at the hotel, we had dinner
around 7 o'clock, and then from the hotel we called a taxi and we
asked him to take us to San Antonio.
Mr. SouRwINE. How far is it?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. It. carne to approximately $100. It was
about 40 cents per mile because there were four people aboard.
Mr. SOURWINE. It is about 100 miles?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I believe it is about 150 miles.
Mr. SouRwiNE. Do you remember telling us earlier today that the
river was very shallow?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I reserve to-I made the statement with
reservations ; because at the time that I made the statement the
people, there were a number of people around and I was-I didn't
have the-I wasn't-I won't trust them.
Senator GURNEY. You are talking about that statement?
Mr. SOURWINE. I am talking about the statement that you made
here this afternoon.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I thought that this was information of a
confidential nature because of the--
Mr. SOURWINE. 'I am just talking about the river being shallow.
What is confidential about that?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I thought that the use of my statement at
the cross of the bridge the way I did might be used for other purposes
such as crossing the border with narcotics.
Mr SOURwINE Was the river shallow when you crossed it?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. No, I don't know.
Mr. SOURWINE. You don't really know, do you?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Because I crossed it on a bridge in an
automobile.
Mr. SoURWINE. I know. You don't' really know whether it was
shallow, isn't that true? After you made the statement that you
came across on a raft, you learned that the river was so shallow that
that couldn't be true.
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Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The problem of crossing the border illegally
in Mexico is something that is talked about daily and constantly,
and every day there are a number of people who go over there and
over the crossing of the border, and they offer and help cross the border.
Mr. SOURWINE. I have no desire to belabor the point, Mr.
Chairman.
My understanding of this discrepancy in testimony is that you
didn't want to tell the truth in this statement because you didn't
want it known that you had crossed the border illegally, is that
correct?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARno. There are a number of specific things
about this matter that if I had tried to talk about them in. Mexico,
I would have never arrived here.
Mr. SouRwINE. Well, I am talking about the statement that was
made in the Immigration Department. Why didn't you tell them you
crossed the border illegal?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Because I left part of my family in Mexico.
Mr. SOURwINE. And just why didn't you tell the truth at that
time? I don't understand that.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I didn't tell the truth at that moment,
but then afterwards when I was questioned again, I told them exactly
what happened.
I explained everything afterwards. I explained it to the person who
questioned me alone.
Mr. SOURWINE. Who was that?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. When his-there was a week of investi-
gation.
Senator GURNEY. Do you know the person?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. A person by the name of Oscar of the
Freedom House.
Mr. SOURWINE. And that is here in Miami. Just one little more
question about that, which I don't understand.
Why the raft story in the statement and the on foot story here
this morning? I don't quite understand that.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARno. Because of the simple fact that the Mexicans
who engage in this type of operation place great emphasis on the fact
that the American authorities do not know the manner in which they
help them cross the border because that would ruin the business if
they found out the way that this is done.
Mr. SOURwINE. Do you mean that you lied to the immigration
authorities and you lied to us again here in order to protect somebody
in Mexico who is helping illegal border-crossers?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I didn't lie because I later explained the
manner in which this works.
Mr. SOURWINE. You mean you didn't lie to us either because you
later told us the truth?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I didn't deem the place and number of
people present trustworthy enough to make the statement when I
made it.
Senator GURNEY. Well, we will drop that and go on to other things.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. This type of questioning takes place in
places where there are other people dealing with other business and
it wasn't prudent to reveal.
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Senator GURNEY. We understand, but what we don't understand
is the difference between the raft and the feet. But, never mind, we
will go on to other things.
These fishing boats that carried arms and agents to Latin America,
what did they transport back from Latin America to Cuba-anything?
That is, they went to Latin America full of men and arms. What did
they come back with-anything?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. On many occasions they came back with
guerrillas who had been wounded or they were sick for the purpose
of receiving treatment in Havana-in Cuba.
Senator GURNEY. Did they ever bring back any other kind of
equipment to Cuba that was vitally needed for anything?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Whattype of equipment?
Senator GURNEY. Well, machinery.
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The only type of equipment that was trans-
ported was radio equipment and broadcasting equipment.
Senator GURNEY. Where would this come from-the country back
to Cuba?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. From the United States.
Senator GURNEY. Did you ever transport machinery to Cuba?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. All machinery was transported through the
Cuban Commercial Office in Canada.
Senator GURNEY. This smuggling of arms and men, are there any
other important transfer points besides Yucatan which has been
mentioned here?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Mainly it is Progreso in Mexico.
Senator GURNEY. Any other islands in the Caribbean?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Curacao.
Senator GURNEY. How extensively is Curacao used?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. There were permanent agents stationed in
Curacao.
Senator GURNEY. Of the Castro government?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Of the Castro government and the Intelli-
gence Service.
Senator GURNEY. And what was their mission?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO: To act as liaison because in the operation
of infiltrating subversives in Venezuela, the simplest way was Curacao.
Senator GURNEY. What kind of operations did your boats carry
out in the Mona Passage?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. There were some tuna fishing boats. Their
function was to explore the possibility of tuna fishing.
Senator GURNEY. Is there any tuna fishing down there to speak of?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes, there is tuna but their function is not
fish tuna.
Senator GURNEY.- What was their function?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Pick up people from Puerto Rico and take
them to Cuba. -
Senator GURNEY. How much of that was done? How many people
were transferred?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I don't know the exact number but the
number of Puerto Ricans in Havana is pretty high.
Senator GURNEY. What about the transfer of people by those same
boats to and from Hispaniola?
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Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. They have created a new fleet which will
specifically fish at the end of the Bahamas Bank which is located in
that area.
Senator GURNEY. How extensive is this fleet? How many boats?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Approximately 60 boats.
Senator GURNEY. This is primarily for the subversion of Santo
Domingo and Haiti?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The chief of that particular fleet is the chief
legal officer of the Department of State Security.
Senator GURNEY. Do you know a man by the name of Hector
Hernandez?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes.
Senator GURNEY. And who is he?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. He is a newspaperman, a reporter. for
Granma who reported events of the Venceremos Brigade.
Senator GURNEY. What did he have to say to you about the
Venceremos Brigade?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The Cubans were very much dissatisfied
because of the physical appearance of the members of the Brigade,
the presence of homosexuals in the Brigade and many drug addicts
in the group.
Senator GURNEY. These were all Americans, were they?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I did not talk to them directly but there
were some that looked like Mexicans.
Senator GURNEY. At any rate, they didn't think much of the
quality?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. They were taken directly to the Isle of
Pines without bringing them in contact with the population.
Senator GURNEY. Let's take a little recess here.
(A short recess was taken.)
Senator GURNEY. What can you tell us about the violations of
the embargo which the United States has imposed on manufactured
goods to Cuba? Have there been violations of that?
Have the goods that are on the embargo gotten into Cuba, and if
so, how?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes, they have taken American machinery
to Cuba.
Senator GURNEY. How has this been done?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. They are sent to Canada, they then change
the description and then they are sent to Cuba.
Senator GURNEY. Is there a good volume of that that goes on?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. There is a gigantic volume.
Senator GURNEY. Do you know anything about the activities of
the Black Panther leaders who went to Cuba from the United States?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. There was a time when they were welcomed
in their visits to Cuba, but afterwards they had problems.
Senator GURNEY. What were these problems?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. A group of the Negro race formed a Black
Power organization in the university with staff and everything.
Afterwards they were apprehended by the Department of Security
of State and the authorities, the Cuban authorities seized the tapes,
films, and propaganda that had been sent from the United States.
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Senator GURNEY. Were these attempts to subvert the Cuban
Government? What were they?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. No; they were trying to exhort the Negroes
of Cuba to take over the government because they were telling them
that Fidel Castro had not given them the participation in policy-
making that was due to them.
Senator GURNEY. This is why the arrests were made; is that right?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Once a staff was put together, this is con-
sidered a counterrevolutionary act.
Senator GURNEY. And some were arrested, is that right?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Many.
Senator GURNEY. What do you know about the attempts by Cuba
to foment revolution in Puerto Rico?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. The place where the Puerto Ricans received
their training was very special because the instructors were either
outright Russians or they were Spaniards who had spent a long time
in the Soviet Union, who were veterans of the Civil War in Spain.
In charge of them is an individual who is known by the name of
Anacleto who was the lieutenant of General Lister of the International
Brigade.
Senator GURNEY. Are you testifying that the Castro regime is
laying great and special emphasis on the subversive work done
against Puerto Rico?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Exactly. What I saw, what I personally
saw is what has become now just a marginal operation. It has been
put aside.
Laura Meneses, who asked for a permit to go to Canada, she said
that it had been denied, she and another individual by the name of
Juarbe.
Senator GURNEY. Did you ever discuss the Puerto Rican operation
with her?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. Yes, I did.
Senator GURNEY. And what did she tell you about it?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. She was very resentful because the help of
Fidel Castro was centered toward Juan Mari Bras, who is the leader
of the Movement for Independence.
Her activity is reduced to a book that is being prepared on Puerto
Rico.
Senator GURNEY. Are you saying that the Cubans don't trust her
any more, is that it?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. It aps that they don't have any con-
fidence in her, they don't trust Cr.
heThere is. an instance that one of the sons of Laura Meneses tried to
greet Fidel Castro during a meeting. Fidel asked him why he was
staying in Cuba, why he didn't go to Puerto Rico.
Senator GURNEY. How large is this training operation in Cuba of
the Puerto Ricans?
Mr. GONZALEZ-PARDO. I believe that in the near future the sub-
versive activities in Puerto Rico are going to increase.
Senator GURNEY. I think that's all we will have time for now.
Thank you very much.
The committee stands in recess subject to the call of the Chair.
(Whereupon, at 4:40 p.m. the meeting was adjourned.)
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(NOTE.-The Senate Internal Security Subcommittee attaches no significance
to the mere fact of the appearance of the name of an individual or organization
in this index.)
Page
Alekseiev, Aleksandr, Soviet Ambassador______________________________ 1675
Anacleto (no other name given) _________________________ __ 1686
B
Bahamas ---------------------
Bahamas Bank --- --- -------- -- -- ------------------'
-----------
Barbaroja (Major Pineiro)_______________________________________
----
Bataban6
Batista Belgian weapons-----------------------------------------------------
Black power
--------------------------------------------
Bras, Juan Mari
--------------------
British Ambassador
Burdsall, Lorna Nell__________________________________________
1676
1685
1677
1671
1070
1679
1685
1686
1676
1676
C
Camaguey (concentration camp)______________________________________ 1671
Canada --------------------------------------------------------- 1685, 1686
Canary Islands------------------------------------------------------ 1679
CSrdenas ------------------------------------------------------- 1671, 1678
Cardenas XIV (boat) ------------------------------------------------ 1674
Cardenas-type boats_______________________________________ 1677,1678
Caribbean ------------------------------------------------------- 1675,1684
Caron ------------------------------------------------------------ 1671
Castro, Fidel------------------------------------------------ 1670-1675,1686
Castro government___________________________________________ 1671,1684
Castro party--------------------------------------------------------- -1670
Castro regime---------------------------------------------------- 1680,1686
Cayo Largo---------------------------------------------------------- 1671
Central America------------------------------------------------------ 1676
Cienfuegos, Camilo--------------------------------------------------- 1670
Civil War in Spain--------------------------------------------------- 1686
Colombia -------------------------------------------------------- 1676, 1678
Columbia University, New York_____________ ___________________ 1676
Comines, Mendes----------------------------------------------------- 1677
Communist -------------------------------------------- 1672,1673,1677,1680
Communist Party ---------------------------------------------------- 1670
Communist Party of Cuba____________________________________________ - 1676
Communist Party, U.S.A---------------------------------------------- 1676
Company H, Castro's Revolutionary Army_____________________________ 1670
Counterintelligence -------------------------------------------------- 1677
Cuba ----------------------------- 1669,1670,1672-1675,1677-1679,1684-1686
Cuban Commercial Office, Canada_____________________________________ 1684
Cuban Government--------------------------------------------------- 1686
Cuban Intelligence Service -------------------------------------- 1677
Cuban Naval Academy ------------------- ---------------------------- . 1670
Cuban Refugee Center ---------------------------------------------- -- 1680
Cuban revolution---------------------------------------------------- 1670
Cubela, Rolando------------------------------------------------- 1671,1672
Curagao ------------------------------------------------------------ 1684
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Del Rio, Tea------------------------------------- 1673, 1674, 1679, 1680, 1682
Department of Fishing----------------------------------------------- 1671
Department of State Security------------------------------------- 1671,1685
Dry Tortugas-------------------------------------------------------- 1674
E
Embassy of Cuba in Japan-------------------------------------------- 1678
F
Fishing Cooperative of Cortez----------------------------------------- 1672
Freedom House------------------------------------------------------ 1683
French Guiana------------------------------------------------------ 1679
Florida Straits------------------------------------------------------- 1676
G
Gallareta, Major-------------------- -------------------------------- 1672
General Directorate of Intelligence (DGI)_____________________________ 1676
Gir6n ---------------------------------------------------------------:1671
Gonzalez-Pardo, Roman---------------------------------------- - 1669-1686
Granma (newspaper)------------------------------------------------ 1685
Guatemala ------------------------------------------------------ 1676,1678
Guatamalan guerrilla movement-------------------------------------- 1677
Guevara, Che-------------------------------------------------------- 1670
Giiin, Major--------------------------------------------------------- 1672
Gulf Stream--------------------------------------------------------- 1676
Gurney, Senator Edward------------------------------------------ 1669-1686
Haiti ---------------------------------------------------- ------ 1685
Havana, Cuba------------------------------------ 1670, 1671, 1677, 1678, 1684
Hernandez, Hector-------------------------------------------------- 1685
Hispaniola ---------------------------------------------------------- 1684
I
Immigration Department--------------------------------------------- -1683
Immigration Service_________________________________________ 1674,1679,,1680
Institute of Agrarian Reform, Cuba______________________________ ___ 1671
Intelligence Section----------------------------------------------- 5675,1681
Intelligence Service-------------------------------------------------- 1;679
Intelligence Unit----------------------------------------------------- 1676
International Bridge______________________________________________ 1680,1686
Isla Mujeres--------------------------------------------------------- 1677
Isle of Pines________________________________________________ 1672, 1673, 1685
J
Jejenes (tank base) -------------------------------------------------- 1673
Juarbe (no other name given)________________________ ----- 1686
K
Key West, Fla--------------------------------------------------- 1675, 1678
Khrushchev --------------------------------------------------------- 1675
L
Las Villas, Province of------------------------------------------------ 1669
Latin America____________________________________ 1674, 1675, 1677, 1679, 1684
Lima, Turcios-------------------------------------------------------- 1877
Lister, General------------------------------------------------------- -1686
Lambda-type boats ------------------------------------------------ 1076, 1677
Lopez, Clara--------------------------------------------------------- 1681
M
Marcel, Cuba-----------------------------------------------------1670,1671
Maritime Fishing Operations, Coordinator of__________________________ 1670
Meneses, Laura------------------------------------------------------ 1686
Merida -------------------------------------------------------------- 1676
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Mexican Immigration Ofiice------------------------------------------- 1681
Mexican Naval Base-------------------------------------------------- 1677
Mexican Navy------------------------------------------------------- 1677
Mexico ----------------------------------------------- 1676,1678,1680-1683
Mexico City------------------------------------------------------ 1673,1681
Miami, Fla-------------------------------------------- 1674,1679-1681,1683
Ministry of Foreign Affairs-------------------------------------------
1675
Ministry of Interior (MININT) ---------------------------------------
1676
Ministry of Interior of Mexico----------------------------------------
1681
Mississippi River-----------------------------------------------------
1674
Mona Passage--------------------------------------------------------
1684
Moscow -------------------------------------------------------------
1675
Movement for Independence-------------------------------------------
1686
0
Oscar (no other name given) ----------------------------------------
1683
P
Pinar del Rio, Province of------------------------------------ 1670,1672,1673
Pineiro, Major Manuel------------------------------------------- 1676-1678
Poland ------------------------------------------------------------- 1677
Progreso, Mexico----------------------------------------------------- 1684
Puerto Morelos------------------------------------------------------- 1673
Puerto Rico------------------------------------------------- 11678,16m, 1686
R
Red Beard (Major Pineiro)------------------------------------------ 1677
Rio Grande River------------------------------------------ 1673, 1679, 1680
Russians ------------------------------------------------------ 1675, 1686
S
San Antonio, Tex------------------------------------------------ 1674, 1682
Salicti Spiritus------------------------------------------------------- 1609
Sandino ------------------------------------------------------------ 1672
Santo Domingo ------------------------------------------------------- 1685
Second Front of Escambray, Chief of------------------------------- 1671
Sourwine, J. G--------------------------------------------------- 1669-1686
South America------------------------------------------------------- 1676
Soviet KGB------------------------------------------------------ 1676
Soviet ship------------------------------------------------------ 1673, 1675
Soviet Union--------------------------------------------------------- 1686
Soviet weapons------------------------------------------------------- 1677
Spain -------------------------------------------------------------- 1672
Special Plans for Fishing, Director of--------------------------------- 1671
T
Tarabochia, Alfonso L--------------------------------------------- 1669-1686
Texas, State of------------------------------------------------------ 1680
Thompson Submachine Guns------------------------------------------ 1677
Tricontinental Conference--------------------------------------------- 1678
U
United States-----------------1689, 1670, 1672-1674, 1676, 1678-1681, 1684, 1685
Government of---------------------------------------------------
V
Varadero -----------------------------------------------------------1678
Venezuela ------------------------------------------ - 1676,1678,1679,1684
1685
Venceremos Brigade--------------------------------------------------
w
Williams, Robert---------------- ----------- 1676
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Y
Yucatan Peninsula------------ --- 1673, 1674
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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Monday - 6 December 1971
1. (Confidential - GLC) Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate Appropria-
tions Committee, advised that the Senate had amended the supplemental
appropriations bill (H. R. 11955) to include an appropriation 25X1
for Radio Liberty and Radio Free Europe contingent upon the enactment of
S. 18 or other authorizing legislation. If this amendment is accepted by
the House, as expected, and enacted, there remains only agreement by the
House and Senate conferees on S. 18 to complete legislative action to provide
for continuation of the Radios.
Woodruff said he expects the conferees to meet on the Defense
appropriations bill on Thursday, with passage of this measure on Friday
and congressional recess by the weekend.
2. (Confidential - GLC) Mr. C. B. Morrison, on the staff of Senator
Allen J. Ellender (D., La.), said the Senator called him today to say that
when Mr. Helms visited him last he offered to'winterize" the Senator's
camera for his trip to Antarctica. The Senator would like this done in time
for his departure a week from today. I told Mr. Morrison I would check on
this and be back in touch with him. The Senator also asked if Kodachrome II,
which is the film he normally uses, is suitable for this trip.
I contacted Mr. Art Lundahl, NPIC, immediately. He said it was he
who had suggested to the Senator that he have his camera winterized for this
trip, but he did not offer to do it. Mr. Lundahl is contacting the Navy, however,
to see if arrangements can be made to have the necessary work done.
3. (Confidential - GLC) Mr. David Martin, on the staff of the Senate
Internal Security Subcommittee, provided me with a copy of the published
document "The Assault on Freedom" (A Compendium of Theoretical and
Policy Statements by the Communist Movement, Domestic and International,
and by other Organizations Committed to the Violent Overthrow of Free
Institutions), which has been passed on to CI Staff,
Mr. Martin also said the Subcommittee is considering hearings on
the Communist propaganda apparatus, both overt and "cryptic. " He said
they are hoping to have Frank Shakespeare, USIA, testify on the open
propaganda and they are considering Bert Wolf and Arthur Koestler, but
he would like any suggestions we might have as to recent defectors,
escapees, or others whom we might suggest as good witnesses on the
Communist clandestine propaganda apparatus. I told him I would check
and be back in touch with hire F. ' [ E
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