THE SHIELD AND SWORD

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
• Release Decision: RIFPUB
• Original Classification: K
• Document Page Count: 203
• Document Creation Date: December 9, 2016
• Document Release Date: June 27, 2001
• Sequence Number: 1
• Publication Date: January 1, 1965
• Content Type: REPORT

Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
THE SHIELD AM SWORD
(continuation)
By Vadim Kozhevnikov
Sources Zia (Tree Banner), No 10, Moscow, 1965. pp 3-125
-- 62 --
Within a few days, Weiss left to return to Germany.
Hauptma.nn Instructed him to tell Sehellenberg7.,personzi,lly
thf.;3 the chief was inclined to support the candidature that had
been planned, but that the announcement of the:new Fuhrer should
be ,11.1ed only with the allied troops# landing--otherwise, the
::,on ,=sequences of this operation could be used by anti-goverrmient
elements.
Weiss sent several reports to the Center from Bern via the
communication link that Prof. Stutthof had indicated to him. He
also managed to pass on what Col. Hauptmann had told him orally.
The guard officer on the German border handed Weiss an
order to leave the car and to fly to Berlin immediately..
On the plane, there turned out to be only four passengers
aside from himself. They appeared feat to be acquainted with
each other and did not attempt to strike up any acquaintance.
The whole way, not one of them said a word, but when the plane
landed at the reserve airport and Weiss stopped off the gang way
onto the ground, the passenger who was walking next to him
looked a pair of handcuffs on him with a lightning-like movement.
At the same moment, another passenger who was walking behind! him
threw an overcoat on .Johann so that his bound hands would not be
visible. The other two stood by on each side.
DOCUMENT NO.
NO CHANGE IN CLASS
^
CJ11 DECLASSIFIED
. SS- CHANGED T0:
tS S C
NEXT REVIEW DATE:
---
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A0( G 1-5
DATE 2.0 m REVIEWER: 029725
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
A car drove right out onto the landing field. Two officers
in Gestapo uniforms were sitting in it. The door swung open,
Weiss' companions shoved him into the car, and continued to walk
lazily toward the airport building as if nothing had happened.
Nothing could be seen through the painted windows of the
Turning to the Gestapo men, Weiss said:
"You work well."
"We've had some experience", responded one of them.
"But perhaps you've made a mistake?" asked Weiss and ex-
plained threateningly: "I'm a Senior Lieutenant in the SD."
"Yes?" asked the same one. And, grinning, he added: "All
kinds of things happen. Sometimes we have generals who cry like
babies," --
"Let me have a smoke", Weiss asked.
A cigarette was put into his mouth and lighted.
Weiss nodded and said with praise in his voice:
"Well, it turns out you guys can be polite."
"For variety's sake", laughed the Gestapo man who had been
carrying on the conversation from the beginning,
"You're a joker", noted Weiss.
"Fight", he agreed. "A real comedian!" He again lit the
lighter and brought it right up to Weiss' nose
Johann turned his head aside..
"Knock it off", said the other with dissatisfaction,
finally opening his mouth. "You'll stink up the whole oar."
"Never mind, let him get used to it." And the first
Gestapo man again brought the lighter up to Weiss' face.
The skin on his ohin wrinkled up, but this time Weiss re-
mained motionless..-
"A tough nut!" said the first one.
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
"So what. we've cracked tougher ones", remarked the other
one gloomily.
They wrapped Johann's head in the coat. The car stopped.
They lifted him up and took him, first over flagstones and then
downwards somewhere on the same sort of stone stairs. On the
way they searched him unhurriedly.
Finally they twisted the coat off Johannos head and he
saw a narrow cement room with a lots vault. An iron folding cat,
a folding table, a sanitary pail. A 100-watt bulb filled the
cell with blinding, sharp light. There was a peep-hole in the
dark door.
The door slammed.. A short time later the guard appeared
again, brought him prison clothing, and ordered Weiss to change
his clothes, after first checking him over carefully, even the
inside of his mouth.
Johann submitted silently for he understood that any prom
test was senseless.
When Weiss had changed into the striped clothing, the guard
noted approvingly:
"Well6 you're not a nervous ones"
"What do you mean, do they only jail nervous people :here?"
asked Weiss,
"Mou;ll see"# the guard promised and left with his clothes.
He threw a smoking cigarette butt onto the floor but at first
Johann could not yet appreciate this act of the greatest genero..
sity at its full value.
For more than a month, Weiss was not called out for inter-
rogation.
During all this time, he painstakingly and logically went
over his double life in his memoryas a Soviet intelligence
agent and a member of the German secret service.
He thought it over from all sidess like an investigator,
and lined oars up against the other in a search for negligence,
omissions, and evidence.
He measured his activities as a Soviet intelligence agent
in every way, first looking at it from the point of view of a
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
Baryshev, then studying it from a distance with the cruel insight
of a Gestapo man or with the refined suspiciousness of his super-
visors in the German secret service.
The thought came to him more than once that he had become
a victim of the secret struggle for primacy and power between
the chiefs of the German secret service. This thought was after
all a consolation.
More was just one thing that seemed to him to be the
most terrible thing of all, namely, that he, as a Soviet intell-
igence agent, had slipped up somewhere, at some time, had made o
some inexousa3 `le mis take...And what if one of those he had been"
connected with had made that error?
He thought of those people who made up the "chain" in
the Wally staff. He brought each of them back to life and placed
his own life in their hands, A tiny bit of himself was somehow
contained in each of them. Nov he could not defile himself' by
doubting them.
But somewhere something had snapped in that chain, if he
were here...
He thought of Zubov who had often disregarded precautionary
measures with the self-assurance of a reckless hero. But this
shortcoming in Aleksey was made up for by his desperate resolute-
ness and ingenuity. Once, during a military operation, a bullet
hit Zubov in the soft part of the leg. Zubov sat down, pressed
the bullet out of the wound, tossed it back and forth, and said,
gritting his white teeths
"Well, now I can walk without baggage."
And he walked on, barely limping.
No, Zubov always found a way out of the most dangerous
situations...
Weiss carried out all the regulations of prison life with
particular discipline and even won the guards' respect by doing
so. He brought the stone floor to a high polish with a brush and
even washed down the walls with a rag. His prison property, a
bowl and a spoon, shone. Three times a day he did physical
exercises, rubbed himself downwith a towel soaked in water in
the pitcher, and took long walks back and forth in the cell which
were several thousands strides long. And he occupied himself
with reading his favorite books by reconstructing what he had
once read in his memory. .
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
His favorite books about the feats of revolutionaries
served for Weiss as his university while he was in prison. And
there were also his father's stories--his father had spend many
years In solitary confinement before the revolution. His father
had turned his call into a sort of classroom--he studied foreign
languages using self-teaching books and read things that he had
never had time to read at other times,
Giving free rein to his imagiz7ation, Weiss threw himself
mentally back into the past where the elder Bolov's feat had had
its start. It was as if he were continuing, this feat here. The
Gestapo prison seemed like a tsarist torture-chamber. And It
appeared on him that he was living during the time when Lenin was
still only Vladimir Ulyanov and the Bolsheviks' struggle for
the people's freedom had just begun.
For the complete realism of this feeling, however, one
thing was still missing--Weiss could not get rid of the aware-
ness that he was merely repeated the elders' feat like an
apprentice and that he was travelling along a known path, al-
ready trained in the moral rules, the violation of which would
be tantamount to treason.
He was also alarmed by the fact that, torn away from the
outside world by his imprisonment and alone with himself, he was
beUi ring to lose Johann Weiss' traits. The Identity of Aleks-..
ander Belov showed through ever more distinctly within him and
his whole recent German existence faded away like a mirage, like
something that had been made up and had never existed.
Belov then was forced to begin working selflessly and
minutely on his own will, using all his strength, in an attempt
to preserve Weiss within himself. He forced himself to renounce
Sasha Belov's memories which were so comforting to him and to
limit himself within the sphere of the memories of the German
Johann Weiss, a member of the German secret service arrested
illegally and without any reason by the Gestapo.
The Investigator, a balding, stoop-shouldered man in
civilian clothes only called Weiss out in the second month of
Weiss' Imprisonment. With indifferent politeness, he asked him
only a few general form questions.
Weiss' protests against his unjustified arrest were list-
ened to by th?_ivesti for with a certain amount of attention.
The latter was meanwhile picking his ears with a match after
which, placing the match neatly back into its box, he inquired:
"Do you have any complaints against the prison administra-
tions?"
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01: CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
Weiss said t
"Not yet.',
117hen sign here." And the investigator shoved over to
Weiss a printed form in which it was stated that the prisoner had
no complaints to the administration of the prison.
Weiss smiled maliciously:
"I said 'rot'." Leaning forward toward the investigator,
he asked: 11I'm pretty well acquainted with these methods of
yours---fi.r.at the prisoner signs a thing like that and then we beat
the hell out of him, right?"
The investigator put the form silently back into his folder
and ordered the guard:
"'lake the prisoner away!"
The next day Weiss was again summoned to an interrogation.
This time the investigator looked completely different.
But he was not transformed by the Gestapo uniform alone. He was
evidently inspired by something. Looking Weiss over from head to
foot, and rubbing his hands with a satisfied look, the invest-
igator read his statement and asked if he confirmed them.
Weiss said:
"Yes, I do."
The investigator's face immediately took on a cruel aid.
imperious expression.
"You're lying, you're not Weiss!" he shouted.
"Then who am I?"
"That's what we're still going to beat out of you!" He
hesitated, enjoying his unmasking of the criminal, and then de-
glared triumphantly; "Herr Oberleuterant Johann Weiss, the one
you passed yourself off for, is dead. He was killed. in an
automobile accident!" The investigator rummaged through his:
folder, found two photographs, and handed them to Weiss.
On the first one was the wreckage of a ear, upside dawn,
the courier Johann knew impaled on the steering column, and next
to him another corpse with its face smashed against the wind-
shield.
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
Only the corpse of the man with the smashed face was shown
in the second snapshot. When he saw that the corpse was dressed
in the suit which had been taken away from him on his first day
of imprisonment. Weiss experienced a feeling of relief. This
meant that everything had been staged by the Gestapo and thsa t he
had been captured not as a Soviet intelligence agent, but as a
member of Schellenbergis service.
Weiss threw both photographs carelessly onto the table and
"To bad for the guy!"
"Who do you mean exactly?" said the investigator, raising
his eyebrows.
"The courier you killed. You did such a job on the second.,
that you put my suit on, that not only I but his own mother wouldn't
recognize him. Well, I recognize the traditional methods of the
Gestapo." He loaned forward and asked, "So what's behind all
this trouble you've gone to?"
The investigator kept the same undisturbed expression on
his face as if Weiss were talking in a language unknown to him
which he did not understand. After a moment of hesitation, the
Investigator asked:
"Now admit that you're not the man you say you are."
"Don't treat me like a fool", said Weiss.
"Are you still counting on something?", said the investi-
gator looking up at Weiss. He took a third photograph and smiled
as he handed it to him: "Draw a reasonable conclusion from this."
In the photograph there was a bier with an urn and on the
urn,, a plate marked "Johann Weiss". There were other smaller in-
scriptions on the plate but he could not decipher them.. The bier
was carried by Heinrich Sohwarzkopf, Gustav, and Franz. Weiss
did not know the fourth man. Behind the bier was Schelleriberg
himself and next to it, Willy Schwarzkopf.
"Well?" asked the investigator. "Is everything clear to
you now? Oberleutenant Weiss is dead and his ashes are ,immured
in that urn. Johann.Weiss no longer exists."
"Tell me", Inquired Weiss, "did that poor devil that you
killed in plate of me really deserve such honored treatment at
his funeral? It the Brigadenfuhrer over finds out that he" s been
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
a pawn in your operation, a lot of you are in for trouble, and
you among them."
These words obviously had no effect on the investigator and
fear flashed in his eyes. He stood up and stated in an official
tone of voice:
" Prisoner 2016, your guilt is being compounded by your
making the false statements vin which I have just now caught you
by means of irrefutable photographic documentation."
A few days later, the investigator again summoned Weiss.
But now, in addition to him, two other men in civilian clothes
were present at the interrogation. The investigator took a new
photograph out of the folder. In it, Weiss had. been snapped next
to the oar in which he had travelled to Switzerland as a courier
and carrier of valuables.
The investigator asked him:
"Can you verify that the man in the photograph is you?"
It seems so. It looks like me."
"Yes or no?"
Weiss was silent.
The investigator declareds
"It definitely is you."
In the second photograph Weiss had been snapped in the
Swiss bank, and in the third was printed a document with the
situres of Weiss and a bank clerk certifying that ten kilo.
grams of gold in 20 Ingots had been received from Weiss.
"Is that your signature?" asked the Investigator.
"But you said Johann Weiss was dead and no one knew who I
am. it
The investigator said loudly and distinctly:
"Our investigation had proved that you are Weiss, a mean
with the same name as the Oberl?utenant Johann Weiss who was
killed in an automobile accident.." He shouted. "Stand up!"
Weiss stood up unwillingly.
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
The two civilians also got up from their places. One of
them put on his glasses and read off from a piece of papers
"On the basis of articles of the laws (he read a list of them),
the xtraordirary People's Court of the Third Reich condemns
-Johann Weiss, convinetod, of the illegal transportation of gold
outside the borders of the Reich, to be executed for the crime
coritted." He added; "Note: Acting on irrefutable evidence,
and in conneotien with the fact that the criminal could not be
brought into the court from the prison hospital, where he is
located, the sentence has been handed down by the court In his
absence."
"But it seems to me that I am perfectly healthy."
"This no. longer had any significance for you", said the
man in civilian clothes as he put his glasses away In their case.
The investigator again addressed himself to Weiss:
"I have withdrawn the accusation against you for bearing
false witness, inasmuch as it has been established that you
really are called Weiss."
Weiss bowed and scraped his foot.
"Do you have something to say?" asked the investigator,
"Only a few words", said Weiss, grinning. "In Bern I
left a letter addressed to Walter Sehell.enberg with one of our
agents. In it I expressed the supposition that some trick like
this might be tried on me and that danger threatened me from
Herr Muller. The Abwehr agent Major Steinglitz had warned me
about this , "
"So what", said the man in civilian clothes, "it just
means you'll have to follow Herr Stoinglitz all the faster,"
But Weiss noticed that while this statement was being; made,
all three "judges" exchanged glances surreptitiously.
NTo matter how much Johann attempted not to think about the
execution, his consciousness would not obey him.
He could only farce himself not to imagine the details,
to out them out..
He knew that he could be executed by the Germans as a
Soviet spy, And he had thought out his entire behavior prior to
death right down to the smallest detail. He was sure of himself
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A00050002000.1-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
and knew that he would be able to preserve his dignity as a
Soviet man and Chokist right up to the last minute. And this
struggle to the last moment for his dignity was to absorb him
completely# overshadowing the thought of death Itself.
To be executed in the guise of Johann Weis,, however--?no,
he was not prepared for that.
The most terrible thing was that even in those hours. be-
fore his death, he could not--did not have the right--to become
himself, He was going to be executed by the Germans as a German.
The Gestapo men would be killing a German, a member of the
German secret service, and that was all.
The absurdity of such a death tormented his soul and. drove
him to madness.
It was senseless to strain all his emotional strength and
to prepare himself for death as if it were some summit. And it
Was also senseless to shriek, sob, and beg for mercy. He could
do that as much as he wanted to. It would only be natural for
Johann Weiss who had become the victim of the struggle between
the two secret services, the pitiful victim of a squabble be-
tween the rulers of the Reich. And there was no need or point
for Weiss to preserve his human dignity in the face of death.
But Aleksander Belov nevertheless decided to reject the
logic of such thoughts. After all, Weiss, the Weiss he had be-
come, still existed; and the present-day Weiss differed in many
respects from the former one with whom he had started on his
path. He had become a personality of sorts. And.it was possible
that someone or other would have tak(.n this personality into
account,
Below, as he weighed all his chances of being saved, came
to the conclusion that if Johann Weiss, living in a world of
baseness, made a deal# that this would only be a meaningless
postponement* bought at the price of his weakness. And it was
precisely to this that Weiss was being pressured by the two
people who came alternately to his cell to see him., The first,
who was unnctiously polite, and was evidently a lawyer by training,
came once a weep. He tried, patiently, logically, and persis-
tently, to-persuade Weiss to tell him everything he knew about
the activities in Bern of the agents of Sahellenberg's secret
diplomacy. He promised him clemency in return for this. With
this cultured and educated man, Weiss conducted himself arro-
gantly and threatened him with vengeance from Walter Schellenborg.
The lawyer answered quietly aril lwith oonvia.tion:
-10- .
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01.: CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
"Even if the person you mention were to find out about
your present whereabouts, he would hardly show much interest in
you, because he knows that the people here are capable of forcing
a man to loosen his tongue. And in view of these circumstances,
you no longer represent any value whatever."
"You mean that if you were 'to free me later, that person
will do everything to take care of me for ' long tongue?"
"There's no doubt about It", agreed the lawyer. "But a
second person who is Interested in your information, has at his
disposal sufficient possibilities to export you, let's say, to
Spain."
"So that Schellenberg ' s boys can take care of me there?"
"That will depend on your talents as a conspirator."
"But what's to prevent me from letting Schellenberg kmow
from Spain what kind of trick you played on me?"
"That's pointless. Schellenborg will be shown your state-
vents in good time. Why wouldn't he believe them?"
"And thi=n he'll come to an agreement with your top man and
they'll jointly decided to get rid of me."
"That won't happen immediately. And it will lengthen your
life somewhat." The lawyer smiled and asked t "I hope you've
noticed how frank I am with you? Extremely so, isn't that true?"
"I'll says", said, Weiss. "you couldntt have been any more
frank."
The second man came to Weiss' cell only on Fridays, on the
day when executions and beatings were done.
He was not very tall, with a thick neck, broad-shouldered,
with a tight, protruding paunchr and an u moving, deathly cold
face,
When he walked into the cell, he first of all checked that
the prisonor+s hands were tied tightly enough. He then took off
his jacket, folded it neatly on the stool, rolled up his sleeves, -
pulled on a pair of heavy leather gloves, and silently and
expertly, so as not to cripple him fatally, beat Weiss for twenty
minutes. He sat dovrn, took a breath,, and then did it all over
again. Before leaving* he asked t
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
""Well?" And walked out, carelessly throwing out the words,
'iTill next Friday. ""
Weiss forced himself to talk with this man during the
break between beatings. He did it as if he understood his pro--
a ossional obligations and considered that they ought not to be
an obstacle to their contact.
Weiss decided on this because with each beating it was
more and more difficult for him to build up his strength again
to prepare for the next one.
He did not want to die from the blows. At the begiraiing,
taking adhrantage of his experience during the sessions in the
'boxing section of "Dinamo"', he tried to soften the blows, so as
to weaken them, by flinching at the moment they were hit. But
the short man saw through this cleverness and began, to lean Weiss
up against the wall as he hit him.
While the executioner was resting seated on the cot, the
emaciated Weiss leaned with his back against the wall; afraid to
leave it for fear of falling. Barely moving his battered lips,
he told of cases of dogs' remarkable loyalty to their masters,
and of their intelligence and astonishing skill in sensitively
divining a ants state of mind. Once he had noticed a iog's
collar and leash in the jacket pocket of his torturer and had
decided to try to soften his cobblestone of a heart with talk
about animals. But the other only listened silently and then
got up with a sigh and once more began to work diligently on
Weiss.
After three weeks of visits like this, the short man
announced, after the session endecli
"Well, that's all." He extended his hand to Weiss and
asked in a whisper, "Did you notice that I didn+t damage any
internal organs? And why? Actually, like you, I have the same
weakness. I prefer dogs to all living creatures."
The procedure of the beatings ended with that, as well as
the visits of the polite lawyer who, after his unsuccessful
attempts to persuade Weiss to be candid, complained to him'
"As a psychologist, I understand you. You are so extena-
ively informed about our general methodology, that the complex
of confidence is completely atrophied within you and because of
this, I'm deprived of. the possibility of establishing contact
with you,"
-
ly and did not ap?:~ear on the surface ? or a long time. He came
to the surface, bre thed out loudly and said with delights "On the
;tom the springs will sine your whiskers they're so cold and it's
as dark there as in a mine."' lie swan toward the shorti with a breast
stroke, turned his head and asked maliciously: "Did you see how
stylishly I disguised myself? No worse' than you, professor;"
They climbed up on the floating dock of the bath house and. lay
axn on the wart, already heated by the sun, boards. t'vaiss noticed
a new scar from a wound on Zubov's body, covered over with a still
suite thin, wrinkled skin like a film on milk.
ali re;""
v'?h
~ere did you get this?"
Zubov unwillingly looked up.
"c haat are you interested in?"
ee, it.h the very latest, of course,"
3 1, okay," said Zubov, hoping to avoid an answer.
'Tut, how come?"
Zubov remained silent o scooped up a handful of water, drank from
and t, ran said hoarsely:
"'I had to gv into the ghetto in Warsaw with my men, but only
tar th~a uprising when their fighters had already been almost all
.:l htared. 2~ierything around was burning, and people were wrapping
?y it children in mattresses and, after embracing, jumping to the
ground from the upper stories. And from below they were firing on them
out of automatic weapons..,
e , I organized a defense. Young girls and boys, still school
&.-Lildren, were there. I broke my cover and told them that I was a
There was a moment,,., they didn?t believe me, called over
an old man who had once lived in Russia and he confirmed it, I took
him along with tie as an interpreter until he was killed. But he had.
already established authority for me and they began to obey. We hit,
the Nazis, and very small children crawled to the bodies -- after weapons
and cartridges. I yelled "Back" --r but they didn*t listen. And
splinters were flying from the bricks because of firing. And they
ware still just children;" lie robbed his forehead with his palm.
"They started to shoot at our group with artillery. I caught a
fragment in my shoulder,, And I was alone at a machine gun -- both
the first and second helpers got it,"
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
ly,
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
And what about the group?"
vzfnant about it, what about it? well, mere was no group. I
lost ninety per cent. I found myself an assistant, such a bright
_:d a.:-:d not afraid of anything, I. had just taught him how to fire the
a?7~, when it was all over -- he was shot. I started to bandage hi-a, i ut he. told n in Polish: 'Please, you're not a doctor, you
......_ve to shoot, c t"1e crawled away to the edge. of the roof so that I
wouldn't able to reach him and there at the rain gutter he died'dd..
Then I had an t:.::,' woman and her daughter as helpers, The daughter
was a physician and knew how to bandage well, but when I was wounded
Jar the third time they were no more. Somebody dragged me into a
cellar, there I rested awhile and then crawled out. I worked a machine
gun -- ig :tee orders until the old men, women and children had disappeared
into a sewer opening. They were then suffocated there by the Germans
with smoke pots."
"And you?"
1a%s concerns me, I survived, In the night the Nazis roved
.round the deserved ghetto with their boots wrapped up in rags so that
their steps could not be heard and, as they found someone alive, they
inished them o L,
,or iy personal safety I worked further with a knife and
._.. (rained from firing. I bec^ e. completely exhausted and fell over
unconscious,
came. to in a hole in the ground carefully bandaged up, Well,
they took care of ? i as if I was the best man on earth, You've never
-v :n such people! They had nothing to breathe there themselves
.-were was no air way.. You'd know it, they shared their food and water --
u:_d this at a time when there was nothing to breathe. And there was
?uch a strong, hulking brute such as I grinding my teeth in pain and
ne.king up the last air, I crawled away from them, I saw that i the
children were turning blue so I crawled away.
tend, just imagine, I ran suddenly into Voditsa with Ptashek:
we crawled out of a sexier opening, They, it turned out, had sawed
through the grating where the outlet from the tunnel to the Visla is
'or the refugees. Some of -hen were saved -- those who didn't drown,
that's where I, apparently, also gave out, l~.ow they dragged me
out of there, I don't know,
After two weeks or so I worked one diversion not too well with
.'.nem, v'verything turned out well, but something smelled of the Gestapo.
I hinted to Brigitte. that it wouldn't ,,a a bad idea to evacuate to
Berlin and, bell, she pushed something through,"
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
generally-speaking, it is not possible in human words to
- all you how it was there in the ghettos" He looked out on the lake
y: d ad-dad: "There isn't enough sea to wash such things out o.-L` one's
o y. `:hat Is what." lie got`. u > and began to dress, "Fro l Berlin
t_c tourist buses drove up. There was a special stop near the
s.?arsaw ; hetto,. The big bellies were diverted just like in church,
_sv could be that they were from the villas here,"
'?_SSo what are you reckoned to be right now among the Germans?"
zed Weiss,
"As you sit::,"unwillingly forced out Zubov, "I'm in cowhand
of a Todt line of rescue detachments made up of Germans, but mainly
out of prisoners."
":dally and how?"
Zubov said confusedly:
"Our own people at first arranged to kill me, The peep le
.w_'ricd out the assignments, you understand, in an organized manner.
4is sco ndrol reported it to 'me. Well, I got excited, of course.
To accept death from one's own people -- this is nothing to be calm,
bout. And then I made a decisions I shot down this vile creature, on
_-akind of pretext or other during a rescue, but so that all would
u i+3rs' a d for what reason. As he was dragged away, I said that he
~_ _d been a nomood informant. Well, apparently, they themselves had
__eady suspected t.,is villain. A day later the senior man came up
to me and asked '?4ierr Commissar, you shot our comrade. Did he want
o do so :c hi n bad to you?' I told him 'not to me, but to you.'
This is exact ly what I told him. We looked each other in the eyes
separated. It turned out that they changed their decision after
w,-Lis .?_ there have been many opportunities to kill me, but they
h vent made use of them,,"
"And have there beer. cases of escape?"
"Absolutely, They take of. and howete grinned Zubov.
'tomtit,. really, this could reflect back on you.9*
" hyi I fill out a form and everything's taken care of! I
zay he was caught while escaping and shot on the spot -- I have every
right to do this, And for some I-:.write down in the lists that they
perished during; bombing attacks or in cave-ins.. My bookkeeping on
such matters is perfectly in order," He said enviously: "I am
052
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
touched by everything, They among them a party and another
cr-ani: at? on, They also dec. who will ecca 3e. and when. They live
aci a e 3l G i e, Annd for them I'm just like a pawn -- not a person
nd only a f igure? 1f
"Listen, and why do they work so hard?1"Because they're really rescuing people.,it
"Garim?ans," reminded Weiss,
'L.
what did you expect:"" said Zubov indignantly. ""`.you 7 :ow,
wFen they carry the crushed children out of the collapsed bomb shelters,
rw's impossible to look. It's as if they were one's own, these
i ittle kids. ,11 lie sighed : "That's the kind of heart the Soviet people
have; And who can say whether this is a weakness or a strength,.,11
'"A..n d what do you think?"
"".;That?" Well, here's what I think,"
They sat do m at a small table on an open veranda of a cafe
which was free of customers at this early hour, The waiter, without
having asked for their order, brought over coffee, rolls, artificial
honey anc dimunitive portions of natural butter the size of a ten
fenny.;; coin.
Zubov took a sip of coffee and made a wry face,
""I'm tired c _ this swill, It would be better to order beer.,""
"I
Uhat are you thinking about! Beer -- in the moiling? That's
not done here,""
then the soup of the day.',
"" ine., but don't fool around," ssaid Weiss,,.
Zubov looked at the sky, dirty from smoky fires and all in
crimson sheens as if soaked with blood, and asked angrily.,
"You explain something to me. Our allies are bombing Germany.
But why is it that German industry not only has not reduced, the output
of product, but, quite the reverse, is constantly increasing it and
the culminating point of the production of aircraft goes on the same
during the heaviest bombing attacks? And all these armaments are
turned against nst us,"
"And the allies aim not against installations, but only against
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
_J a
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
~-"~`.?'Cm in populace -- 'or the tpurposz o1 terror
panic," said tRciss, continuing his t
the Gestapo has so terrorized tae population, that where
43 the sans in the bcnCain attacks!'' said Zu aov, "Not long ago more
.':-.an th-ae hundred thousand persons ware subjected to reprisals. And,
J S un iarstand, last night I saw how the riillc tank trucks of the
rZ ollc" ?iLza and the motor vehicles of the Berlin Fire Departncr_t took
ray to the Easters Front the stationary batteries which are a part
o- Berlin's antiaircraft defense system, And earlier many antiaircraft
. ilroa weapons were sent then e. Y'Y:3 not even tai kit about t?'.C
. uxadro'ns of night fighters to den away from the Berlin ani:iai.rcraf'i:
.:fcnse for that same purpose. it seems that the allies should say
z.ca the 'hank yot._ the service is great'." fire made a facet'
?-.: if ?'ro f a tooth ache,, "This strategy is obscene, that's what I
c ya to you Instead of I~reeks.hg the back of G'ermany's military
industry, they : {. hitting the civilian copulation together with the
'w' stapo,, The allies are intensifying the a-r terror and the Gestapo the police terror,; i nd the Gemnan gets from all this nothing,
:crept =iorhxos only to the front, All are swept up clean by total
e msc1 ipt .on, They are also herded to the Eastern Front." He said
:-.~.'' ieica .ly: "I was there at one military plant and looked around,,
+an who are serving out their labor service are eat in for 12 hours
:gay An air raid warning went off - they kept on working',
1 think is a people: And how did it turn out? There was no
shelter, but anyone who leaves his machine is a saboteur, and
has a direct oath into a concentration carp in the plant zones
v.. an iaircraft personnel are not on duty, but Gestapo details.
_ rat's also the whole trick, he largest military plants are located
::side tie units if cities and our allies are not bombing them ..-,
ct that target." He remained quiet for a minute and sighed: "I'm
:vorki ng on something in my free time from emergency work,"
t1z what, namely?" asked Weiss,
"Just little things," answered Zubov tiredly. "47e're stealing
c--,:plosives from a construction project of a bomb shelter for the high
c:o r::mand and, well, we're using it for the designed purpose."
`ou have, then, a group again?"
rtYos, a small one,." said Zubov evasively. "But brave guys.
I'm teaching them, of course, to work without superfluous independence,
Not too long ago they killed one agent from your 'Vali' headquarters."
"How did you find out about the agent?"
"We have a man,, a messenger - he gave u3 signs and reported
that this agent would arrive in Berlin on a train with one escort.
054
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
stet both with honors in a vehicle and drove off. As always, th4,_e
was a bciibing attack. Well, we also stopped at a bomb shelter which
had built on special. order, but hadn't turned over to the client
Y --- e s 31 i, they wont in, were d !" e .'og Lf~d and condemned, Everything
ceording to lcaw, just as it should be." Zubov raised his eyes and
z.:ked : " _nd you, how about it, are you a Garman all the time, without
brea!c?" 'He shook his head. "I wouldn't be able to do it. ;iy soul
would shrivel. Are you made of iron that you can hold up u ade:; such
a !bad-ell shrugged his shoulders, "There's one thing I can't
=aerst ~,nd -~ how the devil you could pose as a noble German in prison?
::till, i' eller would the hock his Shelienberg, and let them bicker, Why
stick youz head to thnoose?"
Weiss said
"Last year the Gestapo arrested some of Hircttrl.er's agents
returning hone after secret diplomatic talks with the representatives
o: English and Aarerican intelligence and accused them of illegal
_::port of foreign exchange. And Hirxuler signed their death sentence
only because they had insisted that he be notified about their arrest.
': ccipiine. laughed Zubov,
"i o," said Weiss, "not only.. This is the method of their secret
V ace not to burden themselves with people who have taken a false
en. -.hare are also other, swifter procedures. The co-worker is not
given any inuication that he has m de a mistake. He is sent to the
doe.-or. This one gives him an injection .. and it's over,"
is under:.:andable," Zubov patted Johann's hand. "You're
a;_eady there with them and should try to be hard as a piece of iron."
he added sorrowfully; "And it's not necessary that we see each
other any-more. I'm not too fastidious a person and sometimes I work
crudely."
"::ell0 and how is Brigitte?"
On Zubov's face appeared an expression of tenderness.
;.I~/thirg: we're getting along."
He bent forward and said shyly
i a happy whisper: 4P.WJe're going to have a baby. It would be nice
to yostpone it until the arrival of our array. I would then register
it as a Soviet citizen according to all rules of law,"
"But would Brigitte agree?"
"tae' l l prevail," said Zubov confidently. "There'll be all the
conditions for a complete argumentation, I'll lay out the whole
y e ere
of our life before her then, She won't be able to resist, She has a
J55
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
f 1
o11,
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
~` e~n feel } for c ie b st."
;e.iss stood uD and offered harm his hand.
F ?%:Z g c `b
ecoF-7jSj% 4 ccTig forgive met,, Zubov sadly. 117-?'?ti
u'etrvou:, ilc, ore I z sn't af rail to die, but now it's very undo .:irabac.
closer our arxrty approaches, the harder it becomes to wait,.."
Crustav dropped by to visit Weiss in his cottage: and, as if
off-ha uiedly, inquired as to. what hind of impression the participants
oY the conspiracy with whom he had been imprisoned had made on him,
ciss said scornfully:
?T'.e most pitiful."
Gustav, not looking at Weiss, raced
":,: auffe:':1berg, in order to save his arrested friends from
e ecution, had tried on his on initiative to carry out an attermt
on the s uchrer's life already on 11 June."
"T :11 me about it, what chivalr 71" smiled
"It seems that one General, after becoming a par ticipant in
the plot, informed to the ?ieichsfuehrer about it the whole time."
`tt~ l1, then. this general should be counted in the staff f of the
cst?poq"
"And he also did not desert his own secret service there. By
t:e way, Hans Speidel, Field Tfarshal tts uel's chief of staff, also
=oported it to his chief,"
"But for tal, it seelus a died in an automobile accident?"
so it was," agreed Gustav, "and, apparently, because he
thin tt; Lall victim to the in juries received in this accident, someone
of the employees suggested to him that he take poison, which he also,
"The Hero of Africa .?- and such an inglorious end,"
"Be was once a favorite of: the Fuehrer's," reminded Gustav,?
Weiss, looking .search n;ly into his eyes, asked:
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
' ''_~S) ~OU31*~ NyOu didn't. want to hear my opinion about ao:."+me.l?"
"1O-2 course, not about Zomel, but about those others," said
ustsv, shaking his head,
`"I'sscntially," said Weiss sevei?' ?y, "as much as I c3uld
:n ers'tand Lror their conversations, the. leaders of the. aons-,,piracy had
`~.cided to ca-?itula't.e to the West so that they could tht .l b: "in an
o ens ve on the Eastern Front. It was purely a u .Lary and political
maneuver -- and only. And even l.hou,};h they lade an attempt on the
1uehrer's life, they wanted to revive his spirit for all eternity."
"in what person?"
"I su pose in the person of the new Fuehrer. But," ironically
noted Weiss, "Goehbels accurately described this conspiracy as
It-alephonie'."
Gustav was silent for a moment and then recoumended in a
2 iendly way :
rte our boss comes to you with this same kind of question,
:seers given by you in this vein would satisfy him. They are fearless,
:.ntelli ent and ;ive evidence of your acumen.11
you," nodded Weiss.
"',"hank
.ustav smiled.
''v? l ow me to hand you a secret package. Sign on the envelope
and don't forget, besides the date, to indicate the exact timer"
run Gustav had departed and Johann opened the package, he saw
sea; document which previously, during their first meeting, Walter
_ellet r; had sho:m, him,. Only now on the certification had been
g 3 ued his own photograph.,
Soon TWeiss again traveled to Switzerland. This time a group
consisting of =three people was under his supervision.
Y t t1 3 a U rarer. ttn there e- x'e more ard cor e
w.a -1 cdr C syost IFS *rtznos party #tmctlonarloa. Theca' hvv
na. I heard It on t!
oacrw to t . .. Iioh and ".11-o . o,,orac
t
, +
o xb icy ~: IJs Y Y'SY~'ii sin h Ir .allies Ivor their ~'3 brugslo act +'Psi;
/
?loi . i1
.z. . ;. tr jy ell been arre,5 already?"
nn+~.i', ,,q~yt`
sire',: lr' t'~ oy in hid ii fl
a .tuatIcn 6jot a Ii Utle' i I Y=d L or Iiz kye .
trey S4
et.t::.r- e' a ld ire tee with surprise, "Political cri ainale
:?e' a face bccr e :ioo z , trot-rigid . aie said uncer to inly:
n Fo ' ?i '"r,Y, . or"orzR h- re" he ad - ittet cbI Ucrly:
d I ( tilted , dreaxzci talacicy, ho cd that they would be r eroved t8nk
c~~IbIiItIea would o on u v for tea to Cat a iii`-hex sition." .e
rue hie fat i ee vith h s fist cn griracInn 'ron the r>aa n, ex-
d :7 nd I, Itbou htt that now 1- will{clir'# tic lcdder: Lutw} at.
"'
i
,?i c uo theta i t~ i hef are lenvin ; he a I..f.eft a re ca V tIng re=y to
c.. cape . s artlcipcnte in the on ;; 9 tlon: ':lei le 1, a lotkk -tice Watt, c_nl.
.,-~? -c Z.'3"plc? ur r t."aeir s4ct;"
.1 aco had ocot a blood.-rcd , wet with e o t, furious;
eyva, a' c ei , wer, a ou u to Dop fret hie head . e loot a`I
oo::tro ' of h icuolf and ~.E } t ?Y toward Weiss, , wi wh a he ai[t- 'd i Y?" en
yv3~:nVro: eel ".~t)~4`f3g 3d, ` e. cn hia wo,da, es IT Ina seI1.:.C'yvm:
' T whole plctu:k~' lo clr Liner. ... do you k ow him lie
rcoe wily buried with untuaual core ony: wre tithe from V: o party, from
t:'o CD end the &3, fro the to. leaders. ~7riLE'G?he t Ilia wi'ie andd
5. ~.t5'a cn it heysterics' . I:n i .a f-,o5 z of a sing I visited tI ei> vI,LS *.,
i3 c s }?~ ; 3 r.ny cordolencea. Thoy wort eiittini' bavIInj tau :63'1'. their
: cc `ate ccl-'z as if n othi had hap?.' n.-iod . iho d ialn j room ecelled
4,?? cicc-r o =o! e aand t ee u>wr a a :area in the aehtray. But nobody in.
e o ;"1t Lein:~r hit "elf. 1
uoC
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A00050002,0001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
you' ~ " wr o rr. 'You * U see, X ;.-=sum you.
bcV xJ.
cm c .. :c b CIy' lteira i
i-t!`.sLiLL V9rV a~''~1~~.'.`~SYg even
ho--%, -ore
..`...L ~~.'.. of his words. y:6ds. '0310. ( .6. W~,..rntt 4-a! In or ,J
And c e : of tho decocaod, c: toss ct rc
ti x .i C:~r ^ v u do t = 1'tow was t Lble to turn the keys to .. E/i ice
cat w '64e preciee rson who wcis to oucceed b1 1. W e does cr:.e
kl is i:..::va baco= d--:':' 3rou& .y ani3 sous, 'tie, 17ei chided hi w.
iic lti:3' u wL'4?ht+e e: i "~`t'~f'ed I1L3 'y'...ae
sad "T have u1zacya been able to loop '3y read
r. w : amt bcsido ; ysol.t. Listen to m-3: the rccia1-politic ,1
Z;.r,1 6trction of the Party used to koop a card file of the m coat pure
. a9 , t t3 o I o ti 3 . ?? ti ' 3f ~o ' la> r "u'. ca ur,od them With ca1I.' e rs and
no- Cam tht it cot,-Ae` e ji rcas. r.r4 now the card fl.lc hava
r~ 7 y~ u . do you know h a t= oce ~rDeopie are listed? `te`a -y are
. ja da! X)ocm me a;:i al othl.rn;? with red e:coofj: s on
c w yo,! o?.i atrip s have :oen Wou it to Party headgma 'cre
z. r o - ;, . p4 ~?1a 3 ? 6~45lefwSS,L.,:1'wk],. a ?da And ?mac
..s i'.K +L,::for Jews 3 '~,~vna~ ~.-..7FY
#20 t _ nur_:b r of c=wwi'i uu in c riao bags as theme re
{p .61. Alt3'ter 1 f 7 M'1~
lao or the boat Nazis they are
.7 n
ltht d ac Jaws00
"Cotiards", said iiofso, r'reaay to do .thing to gave their
? ba," c^C- ed E icke . . :9, in eaoorco, not only inouUI,* ten t
but, r n 'ortun ?y, your ardour con it that you not
-z ted _v work. That's the E' ho1o story."
you ]mow l1 c xo i thin 14" e replied with wonder.
cet ro", '-Wes :c - :ed . And all this is bein_m dyne In
in'ise; s Lz of the tuturo of Iro ."
d d ec. wine, drank it in n nhl gulp,
It bin lip. J 1 rt eta into his 0310D. It ocYuu, n`f; >Lau too mush."
a ::M a for?" c aid to is5 , T 1^ we listened to you with great
wt are ;. : z :d hare lc: r, c'd : o of benefit to 7oo]X andt is Exc'ess'
,~-at~>a", ttrti ..& ea
to es;s.. . ~ up .t-;.: c..,aa~i$13c his hands I~ws:~.?'~A M3 k,
ex olainad; "Indeed, it i loo possible. a :3 cap ~ s to
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
to c ie .aise oure slvea. And we, of course, will ems.74how
u e of your i.n"or .tion, You don't object?""
""C :? y c c" ' t oration the source", Bakke pleaded frlighte r-ed ,
';.`or Gcw' a Main o ."
"cood", e reerl Weisa, "I can promise you this. But or e
you will h-lp to draw up a list on this question and Is,
c- I y o:s` ?r tictl t, will rrctiont it to zy leaders. And, I euppocse
" " :wile d, "Berr Mueller, trc.n Zerrina his dislike of rV chief
the p~f o of in" ree v'ico relations, will not fully acquaint hir;a
. ~h tL: :L li e rie e pt the Gestapo in this direction, And if
you give us what silt n(e you can, then I can be of use to, you.
?~.e a?; wo in Use s ores n service have certain contaots with Wecetcrn
at~aUi" o o eerviccE-."
' 1 1 ow " i e said in a low voice,
"Cona-e "luently, if we cord you to thou in a mattaablca rt.ay
uo:r_' v " n co ;nary for you to brow a bear .
'St ccim?+% to !"ev," wel~,?,e remarked ss oertain]ly, "that they still
e sw . do ?co in the C ata:po. At the co =and o the londero
o to
lu
?~
z ::M cod i v riou3 v: " ciat worms every day and studyir& ptsmpxa-
leta -ut out by the us erg ound" .
want to plant you with the ?"
"It's possible," said Ba ru "Zut I would not wCnt this,."
notr
" o Mter? how well I quaci d quotations, the co unistse Would
once that I was a plented duo'.. I wouldn't last a day." A tone
o envy o e into his voice: have hea that they avo rocont33
~:4h up cc ti beds in tubarculoei3 baepit, .s in Switzerland and aer to `n
c us as bo-.ing sent there in ambula a end are boin3 carried into the
or etretohero. But they scaling those, of course, who
cocupiee: important positions," Be sighed, "At the very Lost I
:ould ba sent to a phoney pz bean detachment -- we are now fox in g tit
in Bo .and, Be3Ziur, and Denmark. And then, nay a Beaistenco u^ Aber,
I *:.'oul.u remain there until bettor tames."
ITOu,re a dreamer'", WWeiss Interrupted hits." And what would
you live on??
0-70
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : GIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
n t:;oYe countries there are eufficiertly wealthy people
c; :c~ aai;7 r;, d ti zie? row tics to time I will remind them of this.
will be vOr Cid ua rc t r nd will never demand core then ? roquire to
live ta t lie coot modest t er.:i
"*Tbis is wise", replied Weise* "'I see that you are thorvu bly
14
epa inn Zxe your o n . future."
""L1 e overybody' 01 00- ejreed II e.
ut Whore s you Cettin a thia information you baare ' 41
icy told you: =all people work for big people. The
t-1dphono opc ato,-~a in the Intercept service, the code clorkaa, the offide
t1:01 L,'t5ute:,tu, the ran'! -a rk-flle employees -- we all share
:.`:fit vL L -now about our oa tera. They never tall. to us about anythfl ,
t is sy fro rQntly co verse with one another in our presence. Indeed,
Vo t:;o'w vcvra =rUy Cu nderhe o, =d test's all. It's not nccesea r
to pay y attcntio: to us. But not all. of us are dunderheads", SaaIt:e
nos ?~xt for a +co est. T,oke karl Lar ebon. Lo worked for Eimmler, for
C :aria, ono for A.-aricc".n Intelligence. And they all paid him well."
"But they r sd bid', Weiss reminded.
t they didn't hand him for ihie, not at all," .fie said
'Tor what then?"
"L :eben knew about the relations between Canaria and Vnaliwls
and , when the Gc tc po e rested bim p hit aaier didn't went him
to blc_'bz: out this. and, # ee .Ienaeben was iimmler'aa best Cent in
-.-o- c: t ue otlrations with the Americans, But If ho talked about
C .darts, the Engl1sh would cease to look upon iiim'mler with the saw w
-fvor. They soy that the only reason they helped the Czech pisans
to kill ileid~:ieha was because he was getting. ready to reveal Canaria sa
an Lnjr ieh cent."
"Aind was Canaria really an En liab a nt?"
maintained a tre eely friendly r, lations with B liah in-
toUi. nee. 1o shared with them his information about the Soviet
which be had obtained throu4h his own ccenta because he always
had t goal of cmasinn the l.rgliisb our allies in a way egainat Buasia."
FArd why did they arrest Canaria: for bia contacts with Engliah
I.ntelli nco or because he had taken part in the plot cjainat Hitler?"
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
O 1.o ich 'uehra r kat all about Canaria even before thi
rrat why have they not c ntonced him to execution now'/"
"Zciu .sae b e know that the ieichzfuehror know e l i about 1 im -~-
vhio fa O!.1 l.y thus re_- on. And no lore ao he keepa3 .juiot ho will be
to c: joy ell the co for :o which are Civen to privileged prisoners.
..~. a L ?otio :..:..7.97 , g..aid as k;w, "tho Old an haa xoon Vly Lecotte cgpleto y
Rio ; a of tto+i, h1u e said is :tt Ccnaria' a drive to always be on his
a n ",n ratio': hue cha Cod with ti :o into sort of an obeocsion.
C riz con of zit etil3. and, ac he has beeomo older, his paceion for
:s t =:on ratter bold of him. Ee thouCht only of travels
t,.W co ,~; ot;,xly stop d being interested in his relations with others.
Lut on 20 July, when the. attempt was m e on hitler's life, he was ho e .
T1--at entire day he cat at his villa near Berlin and never loft it even
to visit the plotteraa' headquaar ors on 3endler Stzaseo."
"Was he build in himself an allbir
"Ycz, to WiL 3& out as he has always been able to do. But
u 4 this ter=:.? . ""7j Clio e Rotc is i uehrer has achieved vhat he has always boon
in. to achieve: ? . the cc%-vices of the Abwehr have boon mar d in
v : > SD . And if Co ar; a 1 not once, spread the word that xiimmler bad
boon a pas`' i.-roarer, it is possible that be would have been par-
, ..,d m,-?L-ht have been kept on in the service as a consultant on, the
Irish I n` ll.i r'.Ce Sor ioo .
"Put you express a rather sharp judge?uo nt," amilcd Weiss,
"We old Nazis are very bot"hor:d by the fact that certain of the. le::.~'?cra, when r otiaatin with V ho li.eh a Americano, a reedd
to die& olve the Nation-al Socialist Party. Even the Fuebrer, who pro-
A bit o- conditions for a cDparaate peace to the Weatorn powers through
1Lince Pohenloh, didn't go this for. Therefore,, we will remain faith-
T, to the Fuebror to the last. The Party will Continue to live as
lc r s te Empire exists!".. Bal-" a announced colour .
"But eon .icr has long spoken of the possibility of a
u?3. 3.itex7, defeat".
"'bon, I know about this. But If we, the old Y azic, can be
we will, do c verytbine possible to raise the Empire once a gain
z, the ashes. And even Rullos r i~mself has insisted that his a tent'
C; . ev'us:loe given the post of imperial con...missar, with the rights
c z' a minister, for the ntruCvle spinet chaos and disorder in the new
Gar Co-vernnnt simply because be hsaa bad the experience of working
in the Gestapo."
072,
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
T` Io ,:ocna that all how is not yet lost?"
s: id le. "But only that It is very tanpleac:tnt to
tc no of thiousands of our pee; to are Uoia' underground under tore
d ~
f :vora~b ?e ct3preos Me convert for
violation of the a: vo of co?' spirecy, he ordered -- yo3,
sa t c: 3rcO -- ktit to ahe oo=wo s._ror nd note dMm what he hc.u to say.
in a 1,w oel, he sat i s eel easy chair witsa clocod eyeo a zd,
i'o a t< an,
iac, dictated and dictated. to the profossor, only in-
i v quently ale 3C1 z Lt the notes Dad 9 in the paper
;" cn Joh t finished dictating, his et iated face was covered
`'he profs or rave Li a so-me sort of t 1- ur5e to drir and e}a;'.
"I will naw take you b ok to your booth. Lie dorm on the
co"-ch e--A -?eop. Sleep not ttur what. Your brain is unbelievably ovor-
_x you need a deep sleep; otherwise such a strain will be i-iarn:?ul,N
088
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
_.::=L y : E c rou W , ei 'W1 ~ tohimae1 and kirsw :d him On
:3'i~c' : T+\ i1. o f ? 8 c~W :'u 6 d led h tta o corridor the , closed
door Of tt":o booth, Cz '.Nzic a "do riot di 4`an.b" sica on the door.
.' 3 t iraotod, Freisa rap ortcd to Gustav about mccotinrs with
fot- :s ioliora :bwchr ou_oloycea. rho latter rcmwked with a levsh.
uantod to tie up to the coats of Enrilend end
nomLa~ Lam:.. M t'-- a mat.?:o: of his eo: also experiences an
of tict_~?ich's cr tix ass. More than l rely he
W k -> y r;-portcd to Lc or that he coquaintod Woica with ceY'tai
y et i` ` orw Vias~. r hero car. 1o1es too the precaution. of eeyi to
Citi4/ VreY
or, etrioh, when tryi.. to tv 'ke me his co3yself to my leaders."
" or r hat . punt oae?"
":3ut, o course, I also knot this Instruction end therefore
0
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
z tcd on its X 13 ?ll
or 1oove at M= Trit in rest,
to ;"- ive .1a.ea=xd a ''i hi,.?; or two, 1 f31C:dE1.rr
your direeticn," ' eiss admitted modestly, and ceded
1i : "Cniy ito ur _c.ce c ry f ov you to atth pt black-01 ., r&:Z. I wil). nw;vor forLVt t "at- I em oblic-ated to you.
-Iw. op cd be at 1+/yw ~y peryokc iFr t [,or T.v1co.:a
4s'.. o
; o?T w.i r~F~1it, WGie3 " f334; 3e d 3i= do T. "` ou Lire a direct,
ti.:!. L n u : s i you, t ? , x ri :uipio : 2 ould ae re hercd to."
',~1 8 std u , bovo , aid laced his hand over h1r heart.
ITS %I 4 1c1 Ltincs:i~w i . "Thor i`3 one Qp Cia eacirnT ant a'Wo
once h cc wlU be givan in t tie ruture to our te:rrar iot Ca?e',u .
ho g, 1e a .1y we woui3 1.'w to consider those as part een. groups,
c ~? rccu: -e ti; t, w b he advance of the cna rty, the ad mini Stration Of
co ` r t1o.~ :,ill p?r ly not have t1t.O to evaouate or oven to
4 ^ ''z: s9" r{ > e :r-YS lCi ' wr~e ~~
L 4 ...a u a .e3 C 3, the teterrorist pY'0u 82?t
tt~~ q ",!o {i p~y~ ~a ,3 {., y~o V Y wry.~~e , p-~ icie fine ay~j (p y~1~ and to y.} /~ aYnr
i S..il te.n `.i V4 `a. '4'?1 dc3trcy !'2 au. 'cVS.w ,"?s dcvm V4 a
blo. up al t..- i) oia1 equiT3'we 4 which y?u t ay i ~~ ix:v e: istB ire `~~
,t::o j, it ceome, I' m be-innir to understand . Therefore, youu
::-21-.; -t1i Iz" _-tivlt:te'a3 will bea stripped of vi%y pretenase of trio Ism,
'~s_o 11I>O. .d with defcat, every to rorist will kill
o' 1c. 1i e co .,on rurderera. And all Cer-mnns, evon those
V-.-Ach fore y o thizcd with you will turn from you with dic past:"
d K `'do , "You have urAerst oil w GJrreotly.!t
yc: AIL : ',Y: "I am rcady ? o C ier with honor as a Bold ier of
Ge .... ro i N ce , But I Lave one wee'.:x:ecss: I would like Uy na "
4. ~w
';o co don in h1.w_tory,
a.::.:: can I do for youl" Waies said in a busineea-liko
aln ed orr cr o 1 the room and , o nir the fire-.
cr cabinet, to; % out a scaled Inver? ope anal wire it to Weise. On t`w :>
c:Y.e o was written: ''Unchen, Albert von LensdoeLI. Johann, Ipuzzlcd,,
zlizad his 3ycs, -
091
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-0.0248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
3 h _xa ..
~ ho c?tt r is ur : ~ to rybbrother,Tt s :~icdr.va :h..dO 1
it, t re t..,. F'r C: my ;..~ h t+a ? And I w1 th to t!'
-
as J:iY'?'
t4s' 1CtI-or ou h you."
,: LS?V I don't %-^Ao;+ w other I'1.1. gnat a chance to be in
"tbat you Will havo
~t vi c c it y :,a e2 t i i , in co. a way, my 1a .fiar
oidc A.
r11 into 1 bar~3e o-- lh?~l ca, I wouldn't bl; a you. Is a? 1
i !!
u-is
rt?.r,...,tt :-, ~`3. ' >ut b*. oro c Silting etch a touchy C--sI n-
tut I ow, -,Von i- in ti 3 r2ost C?o yer3t1 terms, what to in t:
1tter. iT
,y 11O,h,, don'tv~worrry;", ~.:.:~::.(do,.- e~op.ur d him. iy~ "pit contains! no
+,...G..::?S~tr;?A+ or elate eacrota. So '..7 ?Vi1J1. like diary entries' in whicb. I
^7: ~ t y ielf. c` being o al oo a to t liquidation of be pricA rrs in tho
~: v~r{?+.. V .` : iOi c;t ,?;3, since :i co izider tbia Inhu ' n."
a g\ra'~i:~36:i Vv }.33-,.t.i pie `rt r .,. a W>lV ee~ryry~t+7. "Knd what
T~t~9i.4 ~ 1+.w.t t+r`+VJ~~Niw~ 8t,:
:1.1 any c3 ;e, the .'. rzc =n be cure tb-St I will take ov ry
_ to eo that Ch +'tx N'~:5 ur.dor my co mz4 do not Cc ?ry
, z i:4 ;1-tiantr tion c tip wfhieh .:tee 1oc itod in the Western
.,.u ::aw ??.'Last?"
s...~t .Y1b .w.iJout the ffyy "it is of""Ioient"", La~?s:;.io? fro}s{,incd, "that~!yI will a ire thor~,
I U the .~. 4+ o of the Gf t otor, we , .t conai Idei It e xpe d lent, to czvo."
t:: this =an that all prisoners wi.l.l, be kMlod in t e ,cetera
Gz"
_ t4 d.? -.x.
;~ eu
xdori replied In a to voice, u1 ~ tb
with, of course, the r.i.ai ttamct'! of unite
~-e iszi tr t on wi co with ..his
o' t3 with t,- bola of S units Specially ecai d for this.
By Vu now b:.VVo a cotton lcadcrahip, you r i n d 1 OF :Giotricb .z.:;.
, .v to ? short -- on.yrtr:o days -- but cFctt mo. ly p lne-jam
t ,w~~w J
t
c
U a
Sy '
esear o ver=
ft i
.
3
s nec
Qyqy
. a., .. }.5. iiie iod ~.Z.D .~'k:'?:J ~. ~t~G4+.1 Vli3d office L'm il.
..v w
u^: r
t__*LT v 3L+z i.:L. t+ to the concentraetiC t c;=,p3. This is C3oin~T,' E on
a g o of t ' er from any at it to :anothor in a: er to r irstc in, o
r c..sui
along 1.4~ LC of i rlcon ant. You have a zcien in the
4 d 1-now t . rk3cetios of this busing e. You can be ji l at one."
all *~
082
Approved Ior Release 2001/08/01: CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
D .e t'--r':c i, as Weiss was well e-w re frc,i the ,pas s was
... v e a t of letting other: do all the work tt:1d we be to
-.isuccesses. `re lacked even the !"':o t e.le"~entary
o".dleof caa) : ecord tic G,.c ing, even though he c ! :ed to Ge
cc i st f._ Lii.:. field. For this reason, ae was suite hippy
.'ri v.te Weis:> r s arrival .
~'t:lt l "f ilces" were not op ne for the new `'in later
All that was done. s--. a!?;toc he _?7 6oto jY'? 3hs of the trfl les' of
;;hose M-1 led, . atting in their place new ones pretreated chem-
.',.i. clly , to ,Ike the- look old. All these "files" included. &
.c:.c to t se effect that the inmates were to be subjected to the
~~ caal tre~stme: t," i.e., that they had to be killed.
b ch had to include a copy of the Gestapo file
a
wh c: described the type of '`crime's for which the inmate was
to be executed.
Al rube" r stamp was used for the signature of the
chsfuhhrer. 2 other rubber stamp on the file marked tha.4 'Ile
~.:late_ soul d not be executed without specia3. Gestapo order.
A fine: arrow with feathers finely drawn on the top, at
t e lower loft corner of the card confirmed the signature..
In the secret service offices, this sign was usually
placed before the birth date the arrow pointed downwards before
tie date of death. if no date was marked, the arrow meant one
oL" y -- the inmate had to die. It is precisely that sign
?C-.r t Jo ann put, looking at the documents, and seeing to it
that evorytOh-..g in them was strictly according to regulatio .s.`
Dietrich did not even dream of checking his work.
.cco"-ding to instructions, a small red paper triangle
s.f_d to be attached to the needle, on both sides, of the file.
Dietrich considered this pure red tape. Yet, Johann knew that
each detail in the making the "file"' had its special significance.
is whey he cut out black paper triangles and pushed the box
to Diet- rich. The latter continued mechanically to add them to
the file_,, preferring to work with paper clips rather than check
the files. clipped black pieces of paper usually meant that
no rations were to be allocated to the inmate by the camp
which could, in other words, "check him out"
the moment he arrived in the camp.
In the course of their work to ether, Dietrich told
Weiss a great deal of interesting news. 'For e .ample, he told
him that all the personnel of the Abwehr workshops, previously
Approved For Release 2001/08/0? : CIAUFb74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
a in ' orging Soviet doeu,lent.,, were now for? ink; German
bs
documents a in cx-) = cation of :better 4I r; es , ..any me herb o the
tic.cr of services were now beconn:ins 7::asants, cr of 4s:iien or
L i Ci i i.t) a t or tahen w -ra even Bing sunp1ied With, aocu :entz
:? ?? .
people h';d been taken prisoners and rcleF.:s:cz
r.
by v+ e uc iet command e i~)f ci ally for propaganda work anon,' the
1J C: ul at1o . T' he owners of such docu::ient had to show them to
GerrE'in Do-:ulaation and ask for shelter. If such was -ranted,
they were ordered person lly to de l with the entire farnilie+
o those ho had sheltered them. Furthermore, it was the duty
c:: such nc op? e to expose the German prisoners of ws.r who had
be .'. truly r -.eased by the Soviet command. to promote resistance
to ascis.
Dietrich asked Weiss whether any one of the heads of the
secret service abroad had talked to him.
Weiss said yes, having indeed spoken with Gustav about
D..o vric
Dietrich said lonz.Lngly" :
Would have very much Liked to be in sp sin now :
_ r nco con d not urUet the services we rendered him in suo'rsress--
__ the revo .utifln. I t pink that by in will become tlic most
a:;J]. ts the ra'E?rT.3a.s"is .
ti.J .pt; iE: C`C}Lt4 nt rpraoerec that "hip
hly secret" assignment which Weiss
carry e::, out under P0aorgof's supervision demanded neither
an '~- n` . 3
y . t:rt~:cu1 ~.r~.,ar s1..~::1 nor effort.
He was to watch that. within a certain time, of a sector
of road and street on his assigned building, as well as at
entrance of that building;, no people whose arrival ho did not
> c, .;r of wwould '.;how up. Or else, wherever he was, he had to
:-z ch out w or any car whose license number he had been told. in.
advance and rcr1icrt on it by the radio to an unknown correspondent.
It as not difficult to notice that be .himself was being
a:. -'.ed. It as as though ho was in a gigantic prison arid,
deprived of freedom, punctually carried out. anything thr t~ wwas.
rdered of him.
Soon, Weiss received an assignment to Stockholm. However,
his assignment was as before. Lie became a part.of the well
coordinated and impeccably operating information machinery in
which Schellenbcr had included the most experienced agents of
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001'-5
A1_, yet, i v Ytt;;3 j-1-possible to abandon thin machini: ry,
ven for t very short time. All its parts were to coordinated
i21Tjediatcly led to a1:sr . signals
a' c,:-. t 2entire chaain? Yrom the observation post the Lt~^~,er v
-who, or unwillingly had committed an error was sing e
ow.t zs well as the agent who was suspected of violatin, the
wule;s a:.' the service. The repression frequently took place o.
riot and Weiss, as the others, nad been issued a silent gun
who >uri, rse.
The cot::pplete isolation in which Weiss found himself
s (; f med to t`l..Y to be c mew 'and who needed not at all to be convinced by
hiLi of u a:et zits,; of wr:ich they had already been convinced no
..~, tha_. he hits teif. For t sic reason, a a s Baker, he was
y s L3::y;, ie e'lir: uslty, s:rwlloving his words, as
though
eat to finish as thou T.1 lie cxr ected COLIeane~ to shout at
~~ '"v was e Milne! Time is lifo and you are shortening
Y e `vi'L n e stood up on the stand here, in this rich
h:ayl and :;a ;:ac respectful faces of tiic Swedish fascists, who
coined la iit as thcL' senior, he was inspired and delivered a
brilliant peach. .apparently, it made quite an impression.
T1. ublic was so impressed that, sheen Weiss finished, there was
.i.on pause. It was only after he left the stand that polite:
~a.w~ase was heard. it sounded dull, since the heads of all
the present haO, beco::,c moi str from their sweat.
1- hip speech, Iieiss -mixed business roco.,r ?ie:ndaztions
coring i?e t oda of conspiracy of the German fast is goin in
with communications as to the number of ; eople
t :cy iiaC L'illed and how. In conclusion, quoting from a s eec
jY :_ ler zo said th 2t this wa v is only one episode in the
tort' of thee thousand year lie assured his public t" ?srat
'he Gird tiorld War would brsr: the 3a.sOcr race total domination
-)v"c all other peoples. promise full of o-itimisr, did not bake the Swedish
.:c saively happy. Hone;ver, whey made notes of
....,.::r.,^.ess rt of his speech, with the zeal of Sunday School
o_'"
:wrin questions, Weiss -advised the boarded to shave
their C i , and the shaved to grow. tLem; he advised the
_
ed l:te~,t to divorce since women tali. too much and m y betray
?l ~w:
he ,:_ : zr c d the poor to become rich to conceal their part
e:
the rich, on the contrary , to become needy. Furthermore,
' ,rave ._ eat deal of useful' advice in the case is.hat anyone
of those sent would go to jail. With full knowlod e of the
he explained how to a ;e best and most efficiently the
time spent in Jail, how to keep up in good health. He- shared
experience in this respect i henerously, with-unusual.
5
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
``;i~ s ti r ca :a.:. ndat iona quite depressor his public.
e:=?a `_ ; ..rin t:ae bet given in his honor t a-t : the rood
Sitting at the table, Weiss w a~s told the
- OU,-h f: n >ncjers who themselves had offered t1aeir
~_W t eo:. :xt~.r?ler':s rgcnts. They wished to establish ~.ith
v.ac:_r } :.s lines with Vrirvs .:iniyter Churchill, thus tryin- to
e ch r,orc-; rapidly an agroca::ent on conditions for peace aceoptable
succeeded in learning even the essentials of the
?_v~ o u da ov.c~n gc by the representatives of.the varioua parties
the course of such talks.
The I.ceal fascists were mainly worried for their own fate
.~ ; aerc ind Lgnant at the e. ceasivo claims made by the woiatern
>; WVs y ,~rwr Germany. They recd mended to Weiss to be quite
full." Stock'., m since, following the victories of the
,ov:'al :.::%ay, the Swedish people were in a very firm mood.
>la;yr as wastika beae dos now was almost equivalent of eomrxi frog
Several members of the fascist party had been killed
t:aa C - . t
1-7
zz x,romised to take care of himself.'
i o day later he, was given another assignment. He :?xas
to 60 to ;ey l.ln in the came plane as an official of the German
a~.-st4_ L Fora .aa Affairs. This official was carrying a.bag
of diplo-- zttic mail and was to travel not alone but in the
oaa 3~an o,. a aeii .2ibbentropp agents.
an our before the tine for the landing, the
of'ficic:~W
.lar: ias to land on a reserve airfield where the
g his -a rda were to be eliminated. If the airplane failed to
had to shoot the official with his `silent gun.
`_That about rae?" Johann asked,
''If you escapee the guards, make a parachute Jump and.
c vwry thing will be in order."
aora that moment on, Weiss was closely follozed by two
z: ;~ntts. They yooh. him to the airport and remained until the doors
of the al ane closed.
The pilot turned out to be a trusted man. A:3 was agreed
a-)or., he punctually landed on a resebxre and now empty airfield.
The official and his guards could not even move: fire from
automatics was aimedt'rac'k; at the places where they were
sitting.
._1
Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
 Approved For Release 2001/08/01 : CIA-RDP74-00248A000500020001-5
:cis 4 ? y everything had been planned in advance
"cat', c ' o e people wa;.:; to be explained as a recul4 of an
attck by
er ae ;y iig, hter pls:es. Leaving the.. aircraft, Weiss
s.w that r_,)air :worker from the engineering troops of the SS
. e: c alre ady patching u7 the holes with pieces of metal.
Troop:; armed with automatic weapons were lined on the
on both sides of the aircraft. One of then i olitely
shoved Weiss where the car that was expecting him was.
68
To.ese days, Schellenberg was, of all the government
_r:wders of Germany, the most purposeful, 'energetic add wirer..
however, the future fate of the Reich was the least of his
=oo r ies . He was certain that his own future did not depend on
v n ,, .ready met s ecently Pibbentropp and zhlte:l ar~:nner ,
Count- .".ad heard then .r akke the samme(~~rgequestthey had
ke
?A... -:.. to be vhe middle man between them and Eisenhower. nhlie as
was
4,-..,,.i-_- of t o ;~ .e. that- sf.~ ' allied circles +
.C .. .:c;i e cand1 c nnlc aas -1 4, head a 'i
; ~= J of Hi of the n,eaIT
t1, C 'Y'T,. an
were hopeless and could only harw his own cause in
>._. fu tur
:'E w s a tine vhen HiY o :
tzr