JOURNAL - OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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• Publication Date: December 18, 1972
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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Monday - 18 December 1972
1. (Internal Use Only - JMM) Received a call from Dick Cook,
in the White House, regarding the Director's retirement. See Memorandum
for the Record.
2. (Internal Use Only - JMM) Discussed with William Woodruff,
Counsel, Senate Appropriations Committee, reports of the. Director's
retirement. See Memorandum for the Record.
3. (Internal Use Only - JMM) Discussed with Ed Braswell, Chief
Counsel and Staff Director, Senate Armed Services Committee, reports of
the Director's retirement. See Memorandum for the Record.
4. (Internal Use Only - JMM) Discussed with Frank Slatinshek,
Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, reports of the Director's
retirement. See Memorandum for the Record.
5. (Unclassified - JMD) Picked up from the office of John Goldsmith,
Senate Armed Services Committee staff, a copy of "F. A. S. Newsletter"
by the Federation of American Scientists, dated December 1972, entitled
"The Intelligence Community: Time for Review?"
6. (Internal Use Only - JMM) Received a call from Senator
Stuart Symington regarding the Director's retirement. See Memo for
Record.
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OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Friday - 15 December 1972
2. (Confidential - JMM) John Goldsmith, Senate Armed Services
Committee staff, called to invite our attention to an article in the current
(December) special issue of the Newsletter of the Federation of American
Scientists dealing with the intelligence community. Goldsmith said the article
was both critical and inaccurate but it adds to his concern that the intelligence
community is in for a rough going over by both the media and the new Congress.
Mr. Goldsmith says Chairman Stennis is in Mississippi and visits his
office there daily so there should be no difficulty in the White House getting
in touch him if they wish about an announcement regarding the Director. He
does not know when Stennis may be back in Washington, but points out that
he often returns unexpectedly.
3. During a casual conversation yesterday
Representative William S. Mailliard (California), who is ranking Republican
member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, commented that he and a
number of his colleagues hoped the Committee could be persuaded to play a
more active and aggressive role in the public dialogue regarding U. S. foreign
policy. He said that although he respected Chairman Morgan, Morgan had
followed a "low key" policy and avoided hearings on controversial or sensational
subjects. This, said Mailliard, had enabled Senator Fulbright of the Foreign
Relations Committee, to monopolize the congressional role in foreign policy, and
it was important that the Foreign Affairs Committee step into the picture in order
to provide a forum for more balanced and constructive discussion of foreign
policy issues. In this connection, he said he hoped the Committee would be
calling on the Agency more frequently than in the past.
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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Friday - 8 December 1972
1. Received a call from George Murphy, Joint
Committee on Atomic Energy staff. He said Colonel Seymour Shwiller,
of the Committee staff, had asked him to make a request to the Agency for
a copy of NIE 11-14 on nonstrategic forces in Eurasia. I told Murphy that
providing the staff with estimates other than those which had been authorized
for release to the Committee by the Director on the recommendation of USIB
pose a fairly complicated procedural question and I asked if there wasn't
some way we could handle this on the basis of a briefing instead. Murphy
called back later to say he had talked further with Colonel Shwiller who
said he had been briefed on the subject matter involved and rather than to
raise the issue on transmittal of the NIE he would cancel the request. I
told Murphy if Shwiller should decide later on that he would like further
information on the subject, to let us know.
2. Hand-carried to John Goldsmith, Senate Armed
Services Committee staff, a paperl
Vietnam and irregulars in both Vietnam and Laos. Goldsmith. had requested
this during his recent trip to Southeast Asia and asked if we would thank our
people in the field for making this available to him. He added that this would
round out his file of information which hopefully it will be unneccessary to
refer to if the present peace negotiations are successfully completed.
3. Left with Senator Symington's office a
letter to the Senator from Mr, Maury.
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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Thursday - 7 December 1972
1, I Colonel Seymour Shwiller, Technical Consultant, 25X1A
Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, called to say that he would be at DIA
tomorrow morning for a briefing by and 25X1A
asked if we would certify his clearances to office. 5X1
Security, is handling this.
2. Called Bill Van Ness, Chief Counsel, Senate
Interior and Insular Affairs Committee, who said they had firmed up their
schedule and expected us to appear before the Committee in an informal,
closed session at 0930 hours on Monday, 11 December in room 3112 New
Senate Office Building. He said they would like about a-fifteen minute - 25X1A
introductory statement followed by about an hour's discussion. He asked
how many of us would be appearing and I said would provide
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a general overview and Mr. Murphy andl ould be along to answer
questions. I said I doubted the Director would be available, and he said they
were not counting on the Director's presence.
3. Tom Korologos, who handles Senate liaison
for the White House, called to ask the name and membership of the CIA Sub
committee of Senate Armed Services, which I gave him. He also wanted to know
whether they had met last year and I'explained that generally we had appeared
before the full Committee rather than the CIA Subcommittee since Stennis had
taken over, but noted that we had met with the Subcommittee on 5 April 1972.
I asked Korologos when they were going to release the news and he said as soon
as they could check it out with "the man in Mississippi. " I said while they were
checking it out they could save themselves a lot of trouble by notifying McClellan
--or in his absence Bill Woodruff--and Mahon, Hebert and Nedzi. I said this
would make.our life a little simpler, and I thought it would make it a good deal
easier on the new Director. Korologos said this was a fine idea and he
appreciated it.
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OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Wednesday - 6 December 1972
1. Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate Appropriations
Committee, called this morning to say that former Senator William Saltonstall
was in town a few days ago and asked him to assist him in some work he is
doing in preparing his memoirs. In this connection Woodruff would like us
to prepare a short paper for him on the way CIA funds are appropriated. In
this paper he would like references to the debate on the Mansfield resolution
in 1956 and the more recent debate on Senator McCarthy's resolution to
authorize the Foreign Relations Committee to look into certain CIA activities.
Woodruff. feels the Senate's action on these two items constitute a "vote of
confidence" for the system as it was originally established by Senator Saltonstall
and Senator Hayden. Woodruff would like the paper by early next week.
2. Mr. Thuermer called and advised us of
a telephone call he received from Stuart Madden, on Jack Anderson.'s staff.
The thrust of Madden's call was that a copy of the Agency's letter to Representa-
tive Moorhead concerning our policy with respect to freedom of information
had been made available to them. Mr. Thuermer is writing a memorandum
on this and is sending us a copy.
3. In response to his request I made arrangements
with Jim Woolsey, Senate Armed Services Committee staff, for him to visit
Headquarters on Wednesday, 27 December at 10 a. m. for a strategic briefing
to be conducted by Mr. Bruce Clarke.
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Monday - 4 December 1972
6.
Had lunch with Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate
Appropriations Committee. He said he saw Bob Jantzen only briefly, socially,
during his stay in Honolulu with Chairman McClellan.
Woodruff asked if there was anything I could tell him about speculations
in the press that Mr. Helms was leaving the Agency. I told him there was
nothing I could give him on this but,as he well knew, if something was in the
offing any announcement on it would have to come from the White House. It
was interesting that during lunch General "Hap" Arnold's son dropped by
our table and asked Woodruff if there was any truth to the rumor that he
might be accepting a position in the Pentagon. Woodruff said there were
rumors to this effect, but said he thought he had the "quietest. telephone in town. "
I brought Woodruff up-to-date on a number of current intelligence items
that have developed since 14 November.
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7. (Secret - GLC) Messrs. Maury and met with Ed Braswell,
Chief Counsel, Senate Armed Services Committee. He asked about the press
stories saying that Mr. Helm's would be leaving the Agency and we told him
that we could not confirm these stories but as he well knew the President
was making a number of changes in his Administration and all announcements
on these changes were coming from the White House. Braswell commented
that if Mr. Helms does leave as Director we can expect a certain amount of
"flack" from the Hill, especially from people like Senator Symington.
We asked Braswell whether he expected Chairman Stennis to be in
town any time soon and he said the Chairman's travel between Mississippi
and Washington was completely unpredictable, but he had no' indication the
Senator plans to be in town in the near future. In response to a question from
us he said he does not expect the Director to be called on by the Chairman
for a briefing before 15 February, but this could always change.
8, Jim Woolsey, Senate Armed Services
Committee staff, said he would like to be brought up-to-date by means of
a "strategic briefing" some time this month (other than a Friday) and added
he would be willing to come to Headquarters to avoid asking our people to
make a special trip to the Hill. I told him I would check with our people and
set something up on this shortly.
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2, Talked to Frank Slatinshek, Chief Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, who said that Chairman Lucien Nedzi,
Intelligence Operations Subcommittee, had left him a message about setting
up a hearing on the intelligence community. I explained that Nedzi had told
us that he did not wish to hear further from the Agency, since this had been
fully taken care of during his Headquarters visit. I said Nedzi had told me
Friday that he wanted to get someone from the National Security Council staff
and a witness from the Defense Department. This apparently surprised
Slatinshek who had understood Nedzi wanted to have an Agency witness.
Slatinshek asked who from the NSC staff would be a qualified witness. I
said I didn't know of anyone on the NSC staff itself who followed intelligence
community matters as a primary responsibility and felt that Gerard Burke,
Executive Secretary of PFIAB would be a more knowledgeable spokesman
from the White House point of view.
I told Slatinshek that since we had covered the community problem
rather fully during Nedzi's visit to Headquarters, we would like to cover
the same ground with Slatinshek at his convenience and we agreed that he,
Tom Parrott and I would meet in his office at 2:30 p: m. tomorrow for this
purpose.
3. Lunched with John Goldsmith, Senate
Armed Services Committee staff, who said Seymour Hersh of the New York
Times had called on him to get material about the Agency. Goldsmith said
he had been unresponsive, but Hersh indicated he was engaged in an ambitious
project putting the whole intelligence community under critical scrutiny. 25X1A
4. Tried to reach J. Sourwine, Chief Counsel,
Senate Internal Security Subcommittee, concerning his inquiry about
but Sourwine
was not expected in his office until late in the day, it a ME I told his secretary
I would catch him in the next day or two.
5. In response to his call, picked up some
documents from Jack Norpel, Senate Internal Security Subcommittee staff,
for delivery t Security.
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