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• Publication Date: August 31, 1972
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"Developments in Indochina"
July - 19, 20, 21, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 30, 31
August - 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 21, 22, 23, 24
"Central Intelligence Bulletin"
July - 20, 21, 24, 26, 27, 28, 31,
August - 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 23, 25.
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Journal - Office of Legislative Counsel
Tuesday - 29 August 1972
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5. Met with Miss Louise O'Brien, House
Foreign Affairs Committee staff, who told me that the onward itinerary for
Jack Brady and Robert Boyer, of the Committee staff, is somewhat uncertain.
They plan to leave Indochina about Friday, 1 September, for Hong Kong and
then return to the States. These travel plans, however, are subject to
confirmation later in the week.
6. I received a call this afternoon from
Mr. Roland Paul, former Counsel of Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee
on U. S. Security Agreements and Commitments Abroad, concerning TV
coverage last evening in the New York City area, Channel 5, WNEW, of the
charges against the Agency set forth in the McCoy book "The Politics of Heroin
in Southeast Asia, " and treatment given the same charges over the last week
or two in the New York Times. See Memorandum for the Record. Mr. John
has been advised.
7. During a conversation today Ed Braswell,
Chief Counsel, Senate Armed Services Committee, mentioned that Chairman
Stennis is in town this week. Braswe sai eta ed with the Chairman
today and nothing of CIA interest came up. He did say, however, that as he
had mentioned to Mr. Maury before the recess, the Chairman might like to
have a briefing from the Agency similar to the one which Mr. Duckett gave
to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Braswell said he would get in
touch with us if this was the case.
8. 1 1 Talked with Jim Woolsey, Senate Armed
Services Committee staff, who asked if we could provide him with a number of
maps and related material on Vietnam. I am checking this with OCI Graphics.
Edward Kennedy (D., Mass.), George McGovern (D., S.Dak.), Hubert
Humphrey (D., Minn.), Mike Mansfield (D., Mont.), and John Sherman
Cooper (R., Ky.) FBIS items in which their names were mentioned.
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Tuesday - 22 August 1972
1. Obtained from John Goldsmith and Jim
Woolsey, on the Senate rme Services Committee staff, the exact
language which has been agreed to by the House/Senate conferees on the
Laos ceiling in the Military Procurement Authorization bill (H. R. 15495).
Copies of Section 602 of the bill, which has been marked to reflect the
agreement of the conferees, have been forwarded to SAVA, FE, OGC, and
OPPB.
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Monday - 21 August 1972
1. I I Talked with Ed Braswell and John Goldsmith,
of the Senate Armed Services Committee staff They told me that while action
has not been completed by the conferees on the Military Procurement
Authorization bill, the conferees have agreed to ceiling for
Laos excluding both U. S. and Vietnamese air operations.
2.1 1 Called Dave Young, who handles problems
regarding the Executive order on classification for the White House, to find
out if he knew anything about a White House communication to the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee saying it was up to the Director to decide
whether or not to release National Estimates to the Committee. Young
assured me that he had never conveyed such a message either orally or
in writing, but felt that under the current Executive Order we could not
insist that National Estimates were immune from the declassification process.
I said the matter was not one of declassification, because the Committee staff
personnel who sought access to the Estimate in question had all the necessary
clearances, but rather we saw it as a problem of releasing outside of the
Executive Branch sensitive material prepared specifically for the personal
use of the President and his top advisors. I said National Estimates often
reflected intelligence sources and methods, but beyond this we felt they
belonged in a special category, perhaps even justifying resorting to executive
privilege. Young said if this was our problem it did not fall within his
purview and we should take it up with John Dean or John Lehman.
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Wednesday - 16 August 1972
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5. I I Talked with Ed Braswell and Jack Ticer,
on the staff of the Senate Armed Services Committee. They said they hoped
that the conferees will complete action on the Military Procurement
Authorization bill before the recess but the conference report will not be
submitted until after Congress reconvenes on the 5th of September.
6. Accompanied DCI/IC/Comptro1Jg41A
Mr. Harold Brownman and OSP, and Colonel Walecka, o f25X1A
DOD, to a meeting with Bil oo ru , on a staff of Senate Appropriations
Committee, on a sensitive Agency matter. (See Memorandum for the Record)
7. I I Scott Cohen, Executive Assistant to Senator
Charles H. Percy (R., Ill. ), called and asked if there was anything in the
briefing which our people gave the Senate Foreign Relations Committee this
afternoon which Senator Percy should know about. He said the Senator is in
Illinois and therefore was unable to attend the briefing. I told him the subject
of the briefing.
8. 1 1 Robert Blum, Senate Foreign Relations
Committee staff, called to find out the status of two requests pending with the25X1A
Agency on OSS material relating to IndoChina and NIE-5, explaining that we
have had the requests for some time and it is important that he starts his 25X1A
work on this material as soon as possible. I explained that who
had been working on the OSS request, was on leave, but that I would check
into the status of both matters and be back in touch. RID,
was advised.
9. I IDr. Thatch, House Internal Security
Committee staff, called to ask if we had a log which could be made available
to him covering the statements by U. S. citizens over Radio Hanoi during the
period 1965 to 1971. In response to my question, he said he was not interested
in prisoner of war statements. I told him I would check and be back in touch.
OGC, have been advised.
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Wednesday - 16 August 1972
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14. In response to a call from Mr. Bill Ashworth,
Senate Foreign Relations Committee staff, I called Carl Marcy, Chief of
Staff, to say we would be glad to provide a briefing on Soviet strategic missile
development to Committee members, but not to staff level personnel only.
After checking with the Chairman and several members, Marcy arranged
an informal Committee meeting for 3 o'clock at which Mr. Duckett covered
the missile situation on the basis of Si and TKH material. See Memorandum
for the Record.
15. I I Talked to Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel,
Senate Armed Services Committee,., and explained our briefings of Senator
Humphrey and Representative Stratton and plans for the briefing of the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He saw no objection and remarked
that Senator Stennis might want such a briefing if it could be scheduled prior
to the recess.
said it now appeared that the Laos ceiling would be established
a and this would exclude certain air support operations. He
indicated that this solution to the problem was unsatisfactory to Senator Symington.
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Called Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate
Appropriations Committee, to say we hadl
Woodruff said he was leaving tomorrow morning until after Labor Day and
the matter could be deferred until then.
17. l uIn the evening David Abshire, Assistant
Secretary o State for Congressional Relations, called me at home to say he
had heard of our appearance before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
and would appreciate more details. I explained our briefings of Senators
Jackson, Hollings, and Humphrey, and Representative Stratton and our
appearance before the. Foreign Relations Committee. Abshire seemed
to think we had come out reasonably well.
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8. In the absence of Senator John Pastore
(D. , R. I. ), I met with James McKenna, his Executive Secretary, and
conveyed the Director's invitation for the Senator to come out for a briefing
on'Agency matters at his earliest convenience. McKenna said the Senator
would be swamped until after Labor Day, but would certainly take us up after
that time. He promised to convey the invitation to the Senator at the first
opportunity.
9. 1 1 Talked to Ed Braswell and Jim Woolsey,
Senate Armed Services Committee staff, regarding the Laos ceiling. See
Memorandum for the Record.
10. I l Carl Marcy, Senate Foreign Relations
Committee staff, called to say Senator Jackson was being quoted by the press
as stating publicly that the Russian's had lied to the President regarding the
number of Soviet Y-class submarines and that Chairman Fulbright would
probably want a statement from the Agency regarding whether we had hard
figures on this subject. After consulting Mr. Duckett and the Director, I
called Marcy back to say the only thing we could contribute on the matter was
to confirm that our present "hard" figure was 42 such submarines in operation
or under construction. Marcy indicated this solved his problem, at least for
the time being.
11. I I In the absence of the Director, I took a
call from Senator Hubert Humphrey (D., Minn.) and agreed to arrange for
Mr. Duckett to provide him with a briefing on Soviet strategic missiles
tomorrow morning at 10 a. m.
12. John Norpel, Research Director, Senate
Internal Security Subcommittee, called to bring to our attention the fact
that an individual applying for employment with a San Francisco hospital
has implied that he worked for the Agency, and the information was passed
on to Security and Medical Services Division. No further action is required.
13. I IMrs. Brown, in the office of Jennings
Randolph (D., W. Va. called askin us to schedule an employment interview
for a constituent, The interview was scheduled for
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7. 1 1 Delivered to the offices of Senators
Cranston (D., Calif.), Kennedy (D., Mass.), Brooke (R., Mass.), McGovern
(D. , S. Dak. ), Harris (D. , Okla. ), Humphrey (D. , Minn. ), Stennis (D. , Miss. ),
Jackson (D., Wash.), Muskie (D., Maine), Thurmond (R., S. C.), Tunney
(D. , Calif. ), and Representatives Thompson (R., Ga. ), and House Speaker
Albert (D., Okla.) FBIS items in which their names were mentioned.
8. Senator Ernest F. Hollings (D. , S. C.) called
to say that Senator Jackson had suggested he be briefed on the Soviet missile
situation along the lines that Mr. Duckett had just briefed Senator Jackson.
After checking with the Director, I confirmed that Mr. Duckett could meet
with the Senator at 3:30 p.m. and I accompanied him to the Senator's office.
Duckett gave a thorough briefing of the latest developments regarding the
Soviet ICBM program, emphasizing the sensitivity of the material displayed.
Hollings was highly complimentary, remarking that he had learned more about
Soviet missiles from Duckett in 30 minutes than he had learned previously
in his Senate career.
I emphasized to the Senator our hope that he would not reveal either
the circumstances or the fact of the briefing to his colleagues, since we could
not cope with briefing every member of the Senate independently.
9. 1 Met with Ed Braswell and Jim Wools ey,Senate
Armed Services Committee staff, and told them of the points covered by
Mr. Duckett in his briefings earlier today of Senators Jackson and Hollings. 25X1A
See Memorandum for the Record.
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