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Approved For Release 2007/01/18 1,&-, P 4B00415R000100110011-3 JOURNAL OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL Wednesday - 28 June 1972 1.1 I Checked again with Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate Appropriations oxriirY robe, and he said he had no objection and no suggestions to the draft report which we proposed to submit to Senate Govern- ment Operations Committee on S. 3529 which has to do with advisory committees in Government. 2. I I Received another call from Miss Molly Shulman, in the office of Representative J. J. Pickle (D., Texas), asking if we could make some arrangement to give their summer interns a tour of the Headquarters building. As I had indicated to her before, I told Miss Shulman we did not normally provide tours of our Headquarters but I would have a member of our staff drop by their office to see if we could arrange an informal talk with their interns to tell them something about the Agency. 3, I (Advised Ed Braswell, Senate Armed Services Committee staff, that the ena a Foreig_n,Re_],a_tions Committee had ordered S. 2224 reported out of Committee. I told Braswell it was our understanding that while the rules of the Senate normally require that a bill such as this which has been referred jointly to two committees must have joint reports filed, Senator Fulbright could file his report separately with the unanimous consent of the Senate. Braswell acknowledged this to be the procedure and said he would look into the matter. 4.1 1 The only copy of the Director's testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee on SALT verification was received yesterday from Ward & Paul through Security channels and was provided the Committee this morning. We will pick the transcript up each day and return it the following morning as long as the Committee has a need for it. Approved For Release 2007/01/1 At l P 4B00415R0001 Gi,C;P 1 _j Approved For Release 2007/01/18 : CIA-RDP74B00415R000100110011-3 Journal - Office of Legislative Counsel Wednesday - 28 June 1972 Page 3 8. Spoke with Bill McAfee and Sidney Buford, INR/ State Department, to learn what information they had on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's action favorably reporting S. 2224 (the Cooper bill requiring the dissemination of intelligence information to the Congress). They did not know the nature of the amendments to the bill approved by the Committee and I requested Mr. Buford to keep us informed of any significant25X1A developments, which he said he would do. Acting Legislative Counsel cc: O/DDCI Mr. Houston Mr. Thuermer I DDI DDS &T EA/DDP OPPB Approved For Release 2007/01/18 : CIA-RDP74B00415R000100110011-3 STATSPEC Approved For Release 2007/01/18 : CIA-RDP74BOO415R000100110011-3 Approved For Release 2007/01/18 : CIA-RDP74BOO415R000100110011-3 Approved For Release 2007/01/18 : CIA-RDP74B00415R000100110011-3 Journal - Office of Legislative Counsel Page 2 Wednesday - 28 June 1972 5. I I Received a call from Mr. Jack Sullivan, House Foreign Al airs ommittee staff, who told me the Chairman would like to schedule Wednesday, 26 July, if that date is available on the Director's calendar, for a briefing on verification of the SALT agreements. I told Sullivan I would be back in touch with him tomorrow. 6. I Talked to Mr. Arthur Kuhl, Chief Clerk, Senate Foreign e a ions Committee, concerning the amendments made by the Committee in S. 2224, a bill to amend the National Security Act of 1947. In effect, the amendments eliminated the provision authorizing transmission of Agency reports and analysis to other members of Congress. 7. I (Late in the day I called Representative Charles Gubser (R. , Calif.) to tell him of the Director's plans to respond to a letter (which we have not yet received) which Representative Les Aspin (D. , Wis.) placed in the Congressional Record referring to new evidence indicating that CIA operated helicopters have been smuggling opium inside Laos. I told him we had thought of including a paragraph in the letter indicating that the Director was sending a copy of his response to Aspin to Mr. Gubser in view of his interest in this problem, but wanted to be sure he had no objection to our doing this. He said he had no objection whatsoever and for us to "go right ahead. " He said furthermore he was prepared to go much further and would either insert the letter in the Record or make a statement on the subject or do anything we wished since he also was very much concerned about what he referred to as "part of a conspiracy to downgrade our American public institutions. " I thanked him very much and told him we would keep his offer in mind and very likely be back in touch with him. f ..f i - GfIV{:N 1 Excluded iron U,1,T,a?ic downgradin; add Approved For Release 2007/01/18: CIA-RDP74B00415R000100110 Approved For Release 2007/01/18, ft fDT74B00415R000100110011-3 Journal - Office of Legislative Counsel Page 3 Tuesday - 27 June 1972 7, Met with Mr. George W. Ashworth, Senate Foreign Relations Committee staff, who asked if the Agency could provide the Committee with a brief survey of weather modification in Indochina. He said that this is a matter that Senator Pell (D. , R. I. ) has become quite interested in and that he has requested staff assistance in developing the question. I told him that with the exceptions of Senator Pell's short press release over the weekend concerning alleged weather modification of American forces over North Vietnam, I knew nothing of the modification and recommended to him that he refer the question to the Department of State. As a followon to last week's briefing he asked also if the Agency has any information concerning the possibility or engineering capability. of the Soviets to increase the missile capacity of the Y-class submarine from 12 to 16 or more missiles. 8. Met with Mr. Ralph Preston, House Appropriations Committee s a , w o told- me that his time for this week and part of next has been completely scheduled but he will meet with our people as soon as possible. I briefed him on the following items: North Vietnamese offensive action on the Bolovens Palteau, North Vietnamese concern over toward Hue , support by allies, Soviet delivery of the Flogger to frontal aviation, 25X1 test, orbit of an unmanned Soyuz spacecraft and the French nuclear test of 25 June. 9. Met with Mr. Jack Sullivan, House Foreign Affairs Committee staff, who told me with apologies thatthe Committee will have to change the 25 July date for possible meeting with the Director on verification of the SALT agreement. He will call as soon as the Chairman focuses on a new date. Mr. Sullivan asked if we could have a transcript and I reminded him that we have not had a transcript in the past in appearance before the Committee. This point will require further discussion. The present schedule of the Committee will be to have Messrs. Rogers and Laird on the first day of testimony, Admiral Moorer and another military witness on the second, and Mr. Helms on the third day to be followed by such members of Congress and private individuals as may request to be heard. The DCI has been advised. 10. 1 1 Met with Mr. Richard Moose, Senate Foreign Relations Committee staff, who told me that he has been working on behalf of the Foreign Relations Committee with representatives of the Senate Rules Committee and others concerning utilization of computer techniques. He anticipates that the question of development of a vocabulary for Committee use will arise within the next few weeks and asked if it wauld be possible to meet with Agency personnel for informal discussion on the subject. Mr. Briggs, OPPB, has been advised. " ,x."? L1. ?! " ExcluiW iram autmnatic Approved For Release 2007/01/18 lr4B00415R000100110011-3 dp,;n ;a~ln, and detl~sai'iaatina Approved For Release 2007/01/18 : CIA-RDP74B00415R000100110011-3 SECRET Journal - Office of Legislative Counsel Page 2 Monday - 26 June 1972 5. (Received a call from Jack Sullivan, House Foreign Affairs ommi eestaff, who told me that Chairman Morgan would, like to schedule a briefing by the Director in Executive Session for Tuesday, 25 July, if that date is acceptable to the Director. I thanked Mr. Sullivan for the call and told him I would relay the Chairman's request. 6. I I Met with Mr. Arthur Kuhl, Chief Clerk, Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who told me that Senator Spong (D. , Va.) will be chairing a meeting tomorrow on the drug question. Messrs. Ingersoll, D/BNDD, Rossides, Treasury Department, and a representative of the State Department will be appearing during the morning. As a followon to his earlier question, I reviewed the question of release of names, titles, positions, and assignments of Agency personnel with Mr. Kuhl in the light of the National Security Act of 1947 and the Central Intelligence Agency Act of 1949. The review appeared to answer any present question that he has on the subject. I left with him a copy of the Guide to CIA Statutes and Law. I returned the transcript of the Laird briefing of 21 June 1972. 7. Met with Mr. Robert Lockhart, Assistant Counsel, House Post Civil Service Committee, who told me that a hearing on the Committee draft of the Federal Executive Service bill will not be scheduled until the. Committee returns on 17 July. In brief, he will be pleased to meet with our people and review any questions that we have on the Committee draft. It was his intent in drafting the bill and it is his opinion 25X1 that the Agency is completely exempt under the terms of the present draft. 9. Met briefly with Mr. James Wilson, House Science and Astronautics Committee staff, and briefed him on the most recent Soviet Space launching. CRET xClutladf ~n __ut ac d ON04106ing aad Approved For Release 2007/01/18 : CIA-RDP74B00415R000100110011-3 Approved For Release 2007/01/18 : CIA-RDP74B00415R000100110011-3 COl IT AL JOURNAL OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL Monday - 26 June 1972 1. PPB, called to say John Hurley, OMB, had been in touch with him to coordinate a statement in a draft of a briefing to be given the Foreign Relations Committee by the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs with respect to the Agency's role in the drua 'p roblem. I told e had been in touch with BNDD through nd suggested a minor revision which would state that the Agency has been given an expanded role in combating the drug problem since 1971. The word expanded was added at our suggestion. 2. I IAccompanied the Director and Messrs. Steininger and Bruce Clarke w o appeared before the Senate Armed Services Committee in connection with SALT matters. See Memo for Record. 3. I I Ed Braswell, Senate Armed Services Committee Chief Counsel, called Saturday to see if we had any objection to Richard Perle's sitting in on the Directory briefing of 26 June on SALT verification. Braswell explained that Perle, on the staff of the Subcommittee on National Security and:International Operations, had been detailed to work with the Armed Services Committee staff on SALT matters. I said I was sure the Director would have no objection if Chairman Stennis wished Perle to be present. 25X1 k-l tlulsdad tram auto;natlc c Approved For Release 200I :CIA R~ r4 0415R000100110 d$dxasittcation Approved For Release 2007/01/18: CIA- DP74B00415R000100110011-3 /` NEW YORK TIMES DATE 2 --J N ~I 2, PAGE 1b Accords Fulbright and Laird Clash By BERNARD GWERTZMAN Special to The New York Times WASHINGTON, June 21 - Senator J. W. Fulbright, Chair- man of the Foreign Relations Committee,. accused Secretary of Defense Melvin R. Laird to- day of threatening "the whole spirit" of the new agreements limiting strategic arms by pressing Congress to approve new offensive programs at the same time as the accords. Mr. Laird, obviously irked by Mr. Fulbright's repeated at- tacks, told the Chairman to- iward the cloe of the three- ihour hearing of the foreign Relations committee, "You've gone far beyond a reasonable position." Doubts About Spending The exchanges between the Arkanses Democrat and the brusque Defense Secretary en- livened today's hearing-the last of three in which Adminis- tration spokesmen testified in support of the two accords reached in Moscow last month. Mr. Fulbright and other mem- bers of the committee have al- ready indicated they will sup- port approval of the accords, but many have qualms about the Administration's efforts to link approval of the accords with approval of new military spending programs. Their disquiet was height- ened by Mr. Laird's statements yesterday to the Armed Serv- ices Committee that he would recommend scrapping the agreements if Congress failed to support the miltibillion pro- gram for construction of a new long-range submarine, the Tri- dent, and a new supersonic bomber, the B-i. Fulbbright Accuses Laird. Tempers flared this morning when Mr. Laird asserted that the Russians were building new "Y class" submarines compara- ble to those being planned for the Trident. He cited this as an example of why the Ad- ministration believed it was necessary to accelerate the modernization of the American forces as permitted under the accords. Mr. Fulbright, arguing that the Soviet Union was not even at Hearing on Arms Limitation close to building a Trident-like submarine, said to Mr. Laird: "I am hopeful Senators will be able to vote on the weapons without being scared to death by your misinformation." 'I resent the fact that you represent any of my informa- tion as misinformation," Mr. Laird responded. He added, "I don't believe you can dispute any of the information I've given you. Earlier, Mr. Laird had an exchange with Senator Jacob K. Javits, Republican of New York, who said he was puzzled by Mr. Laird's efforts to link sup- port of the agreements with the defense program. He said that Henry A. Kis- singer, President Nixon's ad- viser on national security, had said: "Our position is that we are presenting both of these programs on their merits. We are not making them condition- al." In light of Mr. Kissinger's statement last week, Mr. Javits asked, how Mr. Laird could link them so closely. Mr. Laird avoided a direct answer but said Mr. Nixon had said both were "equally essential." Asserting that he was still confused, Mr. Javits asked: "What does the Administration ask us to do?" "It wants you to approve all three," Mr. Laird replied, referring to the treaty limiting defensive missiles, the agree- ment limiting ofensive weap- ons and the new United states defense program. "That is not responsive to my question," Mr. Davits said 1. "Well, that is as responsive as I will be, Senator," Ml-. Laird said. Senator Stuart Symington, Democrat of Missouri, also at s- tacked what he called th "scare" tactis of the Adminh tration. Cooper Suggests Moratoriur Senator John Sherma: Cooper, Republican of Ken tucky, proposed a two-yea moratorium on further offen sive programs to see if the Rus sians would also avoid any nev arms programs in that period Mr. Fulbright and Mr. Laird funamentally disagreed on their interpretations of the strategic arms accords. The Senator saw them as insuring nuclear parity -a step that should be trans- Ilated into budget savings. Mr. Laird, backed by Adm. Thomas H. Moorer, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that the Russians would accelerate their programs in coming years and if the United States did not keep pace, the strategic balance would be upset. Mr. Laird said that the Rus- sians had tested new- missiles in the month since Mr. Nixon's visit to Moscow and were mov- ing rapidly to catch up with America's lead in multiple-war- head technology. Approved For Release 2007/01/18 : CIA-RDP74BOO415R000100110011-3 c -- - Tli. Wi l-ok4C* '? a ?@2007/01/18: CIA-R[ ~?QQ1113AGE Laird, Fuibrightl Clash at SALT Treaty Hearing By Michael Getler Washington Poet Me& Writer Chairman J__ W. Fulbright (12-Ark.) of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee yester- d $y bombarded Defense Secre- tary Melvin R. Laird wi charges that he was "a gem s at semantic -confusion" was ' turning the recent Soviet-American agreement to limit nuclear arms in_ o.. an enormous escalation of the ems race." 1n A heater debate. Ful- bright and the defense chief g/feet accused each other of - in undermining American secu- Laird has urged congres- sional approval of the arms ac- cords, but he has also threat- ened to withdraw his support and recommend projects that would in effect break the agreements unless Congress *ives a go-ahead to multibil- lion-dollar missile-submarine and bomber projects, plus spme others, allowed by the accords and in the Pentagon's1 $83 billion budget. Laird's position is that the Trident submarine and B-1 bomber projects, in particular -=which have a collective But Fulbright, whose com- mittee is charged with passing; on the formal treaty provi-1 sions of the agreement limit- Ing rival anti-ballistic missile (ABM) systems, contended yes- terday that Laird's pressuring of Congress. and demands for big weapons increases "will force the Soviet Union to re- spond in kind and continue the arms ace. 11 Fulbright argued that the weapons now in each super- power's arsenal were "'quite adequate to destroy each o t'h a r" and that the ABM agreement-which pledges both nations to remain vir- tually defenseless against mis- sile attack-makes it unneces-' sary to'pour billions more into new offensive weapons. "It will destroy the whole spirit of the agreements if you persist, or if our government I persists, in seeking an advan- tage from them," Fulbright said. Laird said the United States was not seeking any advan- tage and repeated President Nixon's assertion that Soviet leaders had told the President long-term price tag of at least $25 billion-were under way before the accords were signed and that they are nec- essary to eventually replace current Polaris-type submar- ines and B-52 bombers to pre- serve the U.S. deterrent. He has also stressed their .importance, in his view, to .a strong U.S. negotiating hand' at forthcoming, rounds of the) Strategic Arms Limitations Talks (SALT). I after the Moscow accords were signed that they, too, would go ahead with pro- grams not yet covered. Fulbright` expanded on Laird's statement that, as Sec- retary of Defense, he had the responsibility to recommend projects to insure American' security. Fulbright said that his committee, too, was con- cerned with security but that security is measured by more that just "huge piles of weap- onsP' "Some of us believe," Ful- bright said, "your policies are seriously undermining and therefore endangering our se- curity" by spending money on arms that would be better spent elsewhere, and' by caus- ing "economic disarray and al- ienating many of our citizens." Sen. Stuart Symington (D- Mo.) joined Fulbright in at- tacking the economics of SALT, saying that throughout the recent White House SALT briefings for the Congress he did not hear any mention of the growing federal deficit and the impact of increased defense spending on it. svmin-._._. rit Atha n to 's re oerring us- mans wou es anew M_ der is "~aavery cleYer_deal Those w _o want Fulbright charged Laird with wanting to "give the im- pression" that the Soviets, with their big iSS-9 ICBMs "were going for a first strike" so that Laird could "scare ev- eryone and get the budget ap- propriated." Fulbright angered Laird by contending that during the bit- ter 1969 debate over approval' of the U.S. Safeguard ABM project, tl~e committee had been given "misinformation" on the Soviet missile threat. .Laird snapped back that) what he was talking about were Soviet capabilities and that he 'always said it was im- possible to accurately assess what their actual intentions, were. Fulbright charged the De- fense Secretary with now trying to do the same thing because Laird, in his com- ments yesterday, compared missiles for a newly modified version of Russia's Y-class sub- marines as "approximately in, the same range as the Trident missiles." The Trident subs, however, carry twice 'as many missiles and are eventually expected to carry an extremely long-range version. Approved For Release 2007/01/18 : CIA-RDP74B00415R000100110011-3 A a