JOURNAL-OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL TUESDAY - 8 AUGUST 1972

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• Publication Date: August 8, 1972
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Journal - Office of Legislative Counsel Page 3
Tuesday - 8 August 1972
8. (Confidential - JMM) 1 -1 and I met with, John Martiny,
Chief Counsel, House Post Office and Civil Service Committee, regarding
the Ervin bill rider which the Senate has attached to the Civil Rights Commission
bill. Martiny said that it was unrealistic to think Chairman Dulski or any
other member of the Committee would try to assert jurisdiction over the Ervin
rider, since the basic bill was strictly the responsibility of the Judiciary Com-
mittee. However, Martiny assured us that Chairman Dulski was informing
Chairman Celler, of the Judiciary Committee, of his view that the Agency as
well as the FBI and NSA should be completely exempt from the provisions of
the Ervin rider and that he would also pass to Chairman Celler copies of
letters which Dulski had received from Chairmen Mahon and Hebert of the
Intelligence Subcommittees requesting an exemption for the Agency.
9. (Confidential - JMM) Called John Lehman, White House staff, and
explained our problems with the Ervin amendment to the Civil Rights Commission
bill. He seemed fully aware of the situation and suggested that I call Wally
Johnson, who formerly handled problems with the House Judiciary Committee
for Attorney General Mitchell and was now working on congressional relations
for the White House.
Lehman went out of his way to compliment us on the material we had
worked up regarding the Cooper bill (S. 2224) which would require that
intelligence material be freely made available to the Congress.
10. (Confidential - JMM) Per John Lehman's suggestion, I called
Wally Johnson, Special Assistant to the President, who seemed to understand
our concern over the Ervin amendment and suggested that we make a special
effort to present our case to Representative Edward Hutchinson and to Tom
Mooney, Associate Counsel of the Judiciary Committee. He also recommended
we talk to Paul Woodard who handles such matters for the Justice Department
and who formerly worked for Senator Ervin. I promised to send Johnson
written material we have worked up regarding the Ervin bill.
11. (Confidential - GLC) Called David Martin, Senate Internal Security
Subcommittee, with reference to our conversation yesterday about a possible
meeting between General Walt and Mr. Colby prior to Walt's testimony before
the Subcommittee on the subject of illicit drug traffic in Southeast.Asia. I told
Martin that Mr. Colby would be glad to talk with General Walt if the General
wanted to give him a call. Martin said Walt's testimony has now been scheduled
for Monday morning. Since Walt will not arrive in Washington until Sunday,
Martin suggested the possibility of a dinner meeting between Colby, Walt and
himself Sunday afternoon. Mr. Colby has agreed to meet with the General
on Sunday, but I have not made any commitments yet to Martin.
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