MEETING WITH DAVID MARTIN OF THE SENATE INTERNAL SECURITY SUBCOMMITTEE STAFF ON 20 JULY 1972

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP74B00415R000200140039-9
• Release Decision: RIPPUB
• Original Classification: C
• Document Page Count: 4
• Document Creation Date: December 16, 2016
• Document Release Date: May 24, 2005
• Sequence Number: 39
• Publication Date: July 25, 1972
• Content Type: MFR

Approved For Release 2005/06/06 : CIA-RDP74B00415R00020014003
25 July 19 72
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Meeting with David Martin of the Senate Internal
Security Subcommittee Staff on 20 July 1972
1. The morning of 20 July 1972, (Deputy 25X1
Chief, DDP/NARCOG) and I, accompanied y o n Maury, Legis-
lative Counsel, met in one of the Senate office buildings with
David Martin, member of the staff of the Senate Internal Se-
curity Subcommittee. Martin just recently returned from a
trip, together with retired Marine General Lewis Walt and
Houston lawyer H. Wayne Gillies, to the Far East, South Asia,
Middle East, Europe, and Mexico to look ai- the narcotics prob-
lem. Before the trip, and I gave Martin 25X1
and the others a lengthy rie ing on the world opium situation,
and the 20 July session was a sort of follow-on to this.
2. Martin stated that Walt will be a very forceful wit-
ness. He indicated that Walt will be testifying shortly after
Labor Day. Martin did much of the talking at the 20 July ses-
sion and by no means covered his entire trip. (He said he
would like to have another half day with us, and arrangements
have, since been made for another session with Martin the
morning of 26 July.) On the question of whether the US can
lick the drug epidemic, Martin indicated he believes we can
with good law enforcement. He spent some time on the Japanese
experience, and indicated that some BNDD people "envy" Japanese
law-enforcement authorities in that Japanese law allows a 23-day
period for interrogation of arrestees. He said we (the US) did
a "lousy" job on drugs on Okinawa, but he indicated a belief
the Japanese will do some cleaning up there. Much of the rest
25X1
Approved For Release 2005/06/06 : CIA-RDP74B00415R000200140039-9
 Approved For Release 2005/96 ; PP- B00415R000200140039-9
of the session was spent on Southeast Asia and the comments
made to Martin and the others by various people including a
Thai Prince (Phisadet Ratchani). The prince said that a lot
of Meo villagers had not been able to sell their opium, and
the prince had about 25 villages on rice relief. Martin
thinks that the Thai government is motivated, and that ef-
fective action on the villages and crop substitution will take
a three-way (Thai-UN-US) program.
3. Martin said he would like more information on refin-
eries in the Tachilek area. He said he had been told that
17-odd groups used the services of three refineries and he
would like a run-down on these groups. He expressed interest
in whether the three refineries are run on a cooperative basis,
and he asked whether there is a "Chinese syndicate." Martin
also expressed interest in having a map showing the opium-
growing areas, and also showing the road being constructed
down through Laos from China. undertook to provide
the requested material, which Martin wanted by early August.
4. Martin expressed considerable interest in the ques-
tion of overhead photography for the detection of poppies,
and in the question of whether we are doing enough in this
field.
5. At Mr. Maury's instruction, I took to the 20 July
session a set of our intelligence memoranda on international
narcotics matters. These were given to Mr. Martin, and Mr.
Maury reiterated to Martin the general ground rules for such
(i.e., Martin may use these for his own information, but if
he wishes to make other use of the material, he should check
with Mr. Maury's office to determine whether the classified
material can be declassified or sanitized or put to the de-
sired use.) A list of the-classified documents lent to Mr.
Martin is attached.
6. Also provided Mr. Martin at this session was a copy
of the newly printed World O ium Survey 1972. This is an un-
classified document being published under the CCINC label.
Martin was informed that he was getting an advance copy. (On
21 July Walter Minnick of the White House Staff told me that
they would like to hold up distribution of the new World
1f l0N
25X1
Approved For Release 2005/06/06 : CIA-RDP74B00415R000200140039-9
 Approved For Release 2005/0&Ofi c MA' RDP74B00415R000200140039-9
Opium Survey until the next meeting of the CCINC; this CCINC
meeting a een scheduled for 24 July but was now put off
for about two weeks. I asked Mr. Maury to inform Martin
that the distribution of the Survey was being delayed and
that Martin should keep his copy dose. Mr. Maury undertook
to do this.)
Coordinator-On
International Narcotics Matters
Distribution:
Orig - Congressional File w/attachment
1 - Chrono w/o attachment
1 - OLC (Mr. Maury) w/attachment
1 - DDP/NARCOG w/attachment
1 - ADDI w/attac men
1 - D/OCI w/attachment
25X1
25X1
Approved For Release 2005/06/06 : CIA-RDP74B00415R000200140039-9
 Approved For Release 2005/06/06 : CIA-RDP74B00415R000200140039-9
25X1
25X1
Approved For Release 2005/06/06 : CIA-RDP74B00415R000200140039-9