JOURNAL - OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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• Publication Date: February 29, 1972
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Tuesday - 29 February 1972
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16. On reference from Mr. Briggs, OPPB,
spoke with Jim Taylor, Budget Examiner, Office of Management and Budget,
and answered his questions on Mr. Maury's letter to OMB on State's proposed
report on S. Res. 192, Symington's Select Committee to Oversee CIA
Activities. Mr. Taylor said that at first he hadn't realized that what was at
stake here was a constitutional issue involving the separation of powers, but
that he wished there was some way to come to a more accommodating view.
I told him that I thought the record was quite clear that the Director had gone
to great lengths to make himself available to the various committees of
Congress to brief them on matters within their jurisdictional areas of
responsibility.
17. ( David Dittman, in the office of Senator
Ted Stevens (R. , Alaska), called on behalf of a constituent who is complaining
that the Agency had not been responsive to his request for information on
educational requirements as they relate to Agency employment possibilities.
I told him we would be glad to check on the application of
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Monday - 28 February 1972
9. John Lehman, on the White House staff, called
to ask if the Agency was appearing this week before the Nedzi Subcommittee
regarding the Hebert/Arends bill (H. R. 9853) on security of classified
information. I said we were not, in view of our policy against appearing
in open session. Lehman was glad to hear this. He asked my views about
trying to delay hearings on this subject until next month so that the
Administration's position could be clarified and further work completed in
the NSSM 13 exercise. I said one argument against delay was the possibility
that the Moorhead Subcommittee would pick up the ball and run with it, and
I thought we were better off dealing with Nedzi. Lehman said this was a
consideration which hadn't occurred to them, and maybe they had better
take another look. He asked how we were getting along with Nedzi and I
said there were no major problems at this stage. This seemed to surprise
him.
Lehman said he had a friend leaving the Navy who was interested in
a job with Air America. I suggested his friend contact Air America's
office directly, but told Lehman to let us know when he did and give us any
recommendations he might want to offer so we could be sure they got full
attention.
Brown's, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian Affairs, request
for guidance in responding before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
if asked about the number of CIA personnel on the country team, forwarded
to DC /FE, a copy of the Department of State's
16 EINovember 1971 letter. In accordance with the letter which forwarded to the
Foreign Relations Committee the numbers of personnel in place by country
and by agency, it was recommended that Ambassador Brown, if questioned
about CIA personnel, respond to the effect that he will arrange for the
Department to provide this information to the Chairman.
11. Talked to Mr. Bruce Clarke, OSR, who told
me he had a good meeting with Mr. Fred Wikner, assistant to Dr. John S.
Foster, Director of Defense Research & Engineering, Department of Defense,
and relayed to him the information provided in the meeting with Mr. Frank
Slatinshek, Assistant Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee,
concerning differences in the information provided by the Director and
Dr. Foster on Soviet R&D. Mr. Clarke will brief Mr. Slatinshek on the
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Thursday - 24 February 1972
10. Mrs. Edwards, in the office of Repre-
sentative Augustus F. Hawkins (D. , Calif. ), called in behalf of a con-
stituent who provides helicopter services and had requested that she query
various Federal agencies. I informed Mrs. Edwards that the Agency had
no need for helicopter services and would not be interested.
11. I Met with Mr. Frank Krebs, Legislative 25X1A
Assistant to Senator Howard Cannon (D., Nev. ), on the inquiry originally
made to the Air Force by Senator Cannon for
on behalf of Mr. Krebs appreciated the background of
the case and said he could handle it nicely without attribution to the Agency,
using our suggested reply. In keeping with an earlier agreement, I informed
Lieutenant Colonel Delmar, Air Force Legislative Liaison, that we had
closed out the inquiry with Cannon's office.
Mr. Krebs said that Senator Cannon had expressed interest in
revisiting a sensitive Agency location, but that he is too busy to consider
such a trip now. I offered our assistance in this connection.
12. Mr. Gene Kopp, Deputy General
Counsel, USIA, called to express concern over the possibility that the
restrictions now found in the Church bill, imposing restrictions on infor-
mation activities outside the United States (S. 1397), might be incorporated
into the authorization legislation for USIA during early March hearings before
the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I thanked him for calling our
attention to this possibility and said we would reassess the bill's impact on
our activities, looking towards such modifications in the language as may b
needed, and we agreed to keep in touch on further developments. Mr. Ko3,XlA
also raised the possibility of our help with "your many friends on the Hill"
on legislation in which we had a mutual interest.
Chief, CA Staff, had alerted us to the possibility of this call.
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13. In response to an earlier call from
the Connecticut office of Senator Lowell Weicker (R., Conn. ),
responded to an inquiry from Mr. Harper on behalf of an Agency employee
who is retiring.
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Friday - 18 February 197Z
in the office of Representative Hugh Carey (D. , N. Y. ), requesting a copy
of the "People's Republic of China" atlas. I told Mrs. Akins we would be
happy to provide a copy for the Congressman's use and will drop one off in
the next day or two.
14. Called Sam Goldberg, on the staff of Senator
Charles McC. Mathias (R. , Md. ), about his call requesting a briefing for
Senator Mathias and Senator Philip A. Hart (D. , Mich.) on certain aspects
of the nuclear test ban issue. I told Goldberg we had taken this up with the
Director who felt that since this was essentially a policy matter any briefings
which the Senators received on this subject should be given by representatives
of the Atomic Energy Commission. I said the AEC was in possession of all
the information we had on the subject of Soviet programs as well as on the
subject of detection capabilities. Goldberg said he understood and was sure
Senator Mathias would understand also and appreciated my timely response.
Arnie d Services Committee, by way of followup to Chairman Stennis' request vv
to the Director that we meet with Braswell to discuss problems which the
Agency might have with the Defense Procurement Authorization bill (S. 3108).
Braswell requested certain budgetary figures which OPPB, i25X1A
pulling together. (See Memorandum for the Record for details. )
16. Left copies of the "People's Republic of
China" atlas with Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate Armed Services 25X1A
Committee, and Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate Appropriations Committee.
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Thursday - 17 February 1972
13. George Murphy, Joint Committee on Atomic
Energy staff, called to discuss the Director's appearance yesterday. He
asked if I felt that his comments on the case of some missing "yellow cake"
uranium were clear. I said I thought he summarized the case accurately.
He agreed with my recollection that the only item on which we were committed
to supply supplementary material for the record concerned Senator Aiken's
question about Israel supplying fighter aircraft and small arms to Guatemala
and other small countries. However, he said he would check the transcript
to see if there were other items that required .followup action.
He said the entire presentation had been completely successful,
but all the members were especially impressed with the Director's
extemporaneous. discussion of the political situation in China, which Senator
Pastore had commented on most enthusiastically.
14. Delivered to the office of Senator
Robert Dole (R., Kans.) a FBIS item in which his name was mentioned.
15. Delivered to Ken Manella, on the
staff of Senator Richard S. Schweiker (R., Pa. ), a People's Republic of
China Atlas for the Senator's use.
16. I Sam Goldberg, on the staff of Senator Charles
McC. Mathias (R., Md.), called. He said Senator Philip Hart (D., Mich.)
has interested Senator Mathias in his proposal to extend the nuclear test ban
treaty to include underground testing. Goldberg said Senator Mathias has
gotten quite interested in this and has received briefings from DOD and AEC
on the subject but he and Senator Hart would like to hear from us. They
would like us to tell them what the Soviets are doing in the field of underground
nuclear testing and to give them our judgment as to whether a U. S. move to
ban this type of testing (either unilaterally or otherwise) would place the U. S.
in a disadvantageous position vis-a-vis the Soviets. They would also like us
to brief them on the state of the art for detecting such tests. Goldberg said
the only time the two Senators would be available for a briefing in the immediate
future is tomorrow morning at 9:30. They realize that responding on such short
notice is an unreasonable request and, therefore, would be willing to defer
the briefing if we cannot make it tomorrow. I told Goldbert I doubted we could
do anything by tomorrow morning since this had to be taken up by the Director,
but I would raise the question and be back in.touch with him as soon as I had
an answer.
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Thursday - 10 February 1972
4. ) Received a call from Senator John
Tunney's Sa ice asking that application
a constituent,
Calif. 92118. Donna, in Office of Personnel, has been advised and will
be sending them out.
Stuart Symington (D., Mo), Frank Church (D., Idaho), Representatives
Paul N. McCloskey, Jr. (R., Calif. ), Marvin L. E nd
James A. Burke (D., Mass.)
mentioned.
6. Delivered to Mr. Winslow Wheeler
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7. George Murphy, Joint Committee on Atomic
Energy staff, inquired about the status of Senator Howard Baker's (R., Tenn.)
query to the Director (see Journal of 4 February). I told Murphy that General
Ed Giller, of AEC. had been in touch with Senator Baker and they agreed to
get together in the near future when both have returned from trips which
they are taking.
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8. called to advise that Henry 25X1A
Cox, the P e i en s a visor on the drug problem, had asked if
he would be willing to brief a Republican caucus on the subject
drug situation. sidestepped this with the suggestion that Cox
get someone from the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs for this
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representative with.some suggestions on how to cover the subject. Cox
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this be a bipartisan briefing.
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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Wednesday - 9 February 1972
I. I Mr, Floyd Sweet, of NASA.. called for
advice on how they should handle a query from Representative Joseph
McDade (R., Pa.) concerning an article "Secret Sensories in Space" by
Phillip Class in Aviation Week magazine. Sweet was concerned as to
how NASA should handle this sensitive subject with McDade. Sweet
specifically asked whether we briefed Chairman Mahon at sensitive
classification levels. I told him we briefed Mr. Mahon on anything he
wanted to know about our business regardless of classification level, but
suggested that NASA might want to take the matter up with Mr. Ralph
Preston, of the House Appropriations Committee staff, and obtain his
advice as to how to handle it.
OTR, suggested that we
try to firm up t e date of 7 March 197 at 2 p. m. for a briefing of the
Advanced Intelligence Seminar by either Russ Blandford or Frank
Slatinshek, of the House Armed Services Committee staff.
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3. Met with Mr. John R. Bland.ford,, Chief
Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, who has agreed to address
the Advanced Intelligence Seminar and scheduled Tuesday afternoon,
7 March 1972, at 2:00 p. m. at the Armed Services Committee room for
Mr. Blandford's address. F I OTR, has been advised. 25X1A
4. Delivered to Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Assistant
Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, the original of the
transcript of the Director's briefing of 8 February. Mr. Slatinshek
indicated that it would be best if he holds the transcript for some three or
four days so that it can be immediately available for Committee use. He
will then return it to the Agency for safekeeping.
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Wednesday - 9 February 1972
8. 1 1 Met with Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate
Appropriations Committee, and discussed plans for the 15 February briefing
of the Defense Appropriations Subcommittee. Woodruff recommended that
the Director cover a prepared text on the Soviet Union, Communist. China,
and Southeast Asia, leaving other areas for the question period. He said the
Subcommittee was skeptical about recent testimony of Admiral Zumwalt
regarding the rapid expansion of the Soviet navy, and Woodruff recommended
the Director devote "four or five minutes"to this subject.
Woodruff said he would like to get from I "within the next 25X1
week or ten days" a "money and people" paper for FY 1973 on CIA, DIA, NSA
and NRO, similar to the paper provided last year.
Woodruff said Chairman Ellender wanted a special briefing on the
intelligence community from Mr. Helms and Assistant Secretary of Defense
(ISA) Albert Hall in the near future--possibly appearing jointly, although
Ellender has not made up his mind on this aspect. Woodruff said that,
although he planned to hear from both the Director and Hall, Ellender would
probably try to hold the Director responsible for the entire community.
Woodruff expressed concern over the reference to tactical intelligence
in the Presidential directive, and I assured him that this was something which
we felt strongly had no place in the community picture. Woodruff agreed,
noting that excluding the costs of tactical intelligence would help him to cut
the figure on community intelligence costs.
Director's appearance next week before the Defense Appropriations Subcommittee.
In response to his earlier request, I briefed Senator Young on the status of
Indian nuclear development.
10. Lunched with Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel,
Senate Armed Services Committee, and discussed some problems involving
community matters.
11, In response to J. Sourwine's, Chief Counsel,
Senate Inter a Security u committee, request and in his absence, I spoke
with Sam Scott, of the Subcommittee staff, and advised him that according
to our information all the Soviet diplomats who were PNGd by Mexico returned
to the Soviet Union and are still there.
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Friday - 4 February 1972
1. Called George Murphy, Joint Committee
on Atomic nergy staff, in connection with a message which he left yesterday
to the effect that Senator Howard Baker (R. , Tenn.) might be calling the
Director on a sensitive matter. I told Murphy that Senator Baker had, in
fact, called the Director on Wednesday and that Mr. Maury subsequently
talked with the Senator advising him that we were in no position to provide
a useful answer to his question and that alternative arrangements were
being made for General Ed Giller, of AEC, to discuss the matter with him.
I added that General Giller subsequently did talk to the Senator who was
completely satisfied.
if we could ma a arrangements to have r. Peter Lakeland, of Senator
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Javits' staff, or some other suitable congressional staffer, meet with an
Advanced Intelligence Seminar class on the Hill some time in March
(probably either the afternoon of the 7th or the morning of the 14th). I
told Mr. Watson I thought something could be arranged and I would talk
with him further after making some inquiries.
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J. Sourwine's, Chief Counsel, Senate Internal Security Subcommittee, query
for the name of a suggested witness who could attest to the credibility of
the report on subversion in Africa which we had made available to the
Subcommittee staff (see Journal of 27 January). said he would 25X1A
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briefing of the Defense Subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee
to Mr. Ralph Preston, of the Committee staff, and picked it up later for
return to Headquarters for safekeeping. Representative Jamie Whitten (D. , Miss.
has requested the transcript be returned to the Committee Monday morning for
his review.
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10. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek,
Assistant Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, who told me
that Chairman Hebert would appreciate a briefing by the Director for the
full Committee on either Monday, the 7th, Tuesday, the 8th, or Wednesday,
the 9th of February. The briefing would be the annual worldwide roundup.
The briefing would be a morning session for 10:00 a. m. The Director has
been advised.
11. Met with Mr. Ralph Preston, House
Appropriations Committee staff, who told me he thought that the letter
from Chairman Mahon to Chairman Dulski ., House Post Office and Civil
Service Committee, had gone forward. I thanked Mr. Preston and told
him I would check the Post Office and Civil Service Committee to see if
it had been received. He told me that he had received the information he
had requested on the Radios from Mr. James Frey, of OMB, and stated
that this is all that he needs from us at the present time. Mr. Preston
told me he would like to schedule for himself and Mr. Woodruff, Senate
Appropriations Committee staff, to visit Headquarters as soon as the budget
book is ready. Once that session is behind us we can then start looking
to a date for the Agency budget presentation before the Special Subcommittee.
Mr. Preston told me also that he has received a question from one of the
sensitive DOD components concerning possible date for that organization's
appearance before the Special Subcommittee and asked that I relay this
item to John Clarke. I reviewed with Mr. Preston the administrative
arrangements for tomorrow's briefing. In part Mr. Preston told me that
an invitation has not been extended to the Military Construction Subcommittee
for attendance at tomorrow's briefing and that the Chairman has not yet
appointed a replacement for Representative Andrews.
12. Spoke wit General Counsel, 25X1
National Security Agency, and he said that they had not received requests for
views from either Office of Management and Budget or Chairman Hebert,
House Armed Services Committee,on H. R. 9853, which establishes a Com-
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understanding of the background of the bill confirms what we have learned.
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Tuesday - 1 February 1972
1. Received a call from Mr. Ralph Preston, House
Appropriations Committee staff, who said that the Committee would be very
interested in Soviet shipbuilding and in particular the vessel under construc-
tion that the Navy thinks is a carrier. I told Mr. Preston that they would
be included. OCI, has been advised.
2. Talked to Mr. Richard Barton, Employee
Benefits Subcommittee, who told me that H. R. 11150, for the protection of the
rights of Federal employees, has been included on the agenda for the full
Committee meeting on Thursday. There are several controversial items
ahead of it, however, Mr. Barton does not feel that this bill will be considered
at this week's meeting. The next scheduled meeting of the full Committee
will be on the 17th.
3. Representative Donald Riegle (R. , Mich. )
and his Administrative Assistant, Mr. Carl Blake, visited Headquarters and
met with Mr. George Carver, SAVA, who updated information previously
provided the Congressman on Indochina. There are no followups from the
briefing. Representative Riegle noted on leaving that overall Indochina
is like a bone in the throat particularly in the appropriations process and he
anticipates serious discussion before final approval of the various measures
pending before the Passman Foreign Operations Subcommittee of the House
Appropriations Committee of which he is a member.
4. Talked to Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate
Armed Services Committee, about the followup on Senator Stennis' request
for a paper comparing Soviet and U. S. navy capabilities. I reminded
Braswell that he would have to go to the Pentagon for the U. S. side, but
he said "this would be a waste of time" and he didn't know how he would
handle it, but he appreciated that we couldn't help him on this. He said
on the Soviet side he would like a paper showing the present strength of
the Soviet navy and also a projection for the next three years, and would
appreciate having it in about a week. I passed this on t
of OSI.
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