FORMER SPY KNOCKS CIA

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TY NEWS '' II OCtC1971 budgeting; as special assistant to the~ClA's-ex- OAKTON, Va. (UPI) Victor Mare;ietti ecutive director; and as executive assistant to embarked 16 years ago on a career that was the agency's deputy director, Vice Adm. Rufus Approved For Release 2005/07/13 : CIA-RDP74B00415R000400160009-8 But two years ago, 'after reaching the high- "This put me in a very rare position with-lev Of the C het be acme disenchant dawith tellige what[llie Agenc rceiv- in the agency and within the intelligency coin- ed to be amorality, overwhelming military in- munity in general, in that I was in. a place' fluence, ' waste and duplicity in the spy buss- where it was being all pulled together," Mar?- ness, Iie quit. c chetti said. Fearing today that the CIA may already' "I could see how intelligence analysis was have begun ? "going against the enemy within" done, and how it fitted into the scheme of the United States as they may conceive it clandestine operations. It also gave me- an op- that is, dissident student groups and civil rights portunity to get a good view of the intelligence organizations -Marchetti has launched a cam- community, too. The National Security Agency. paign for more presidential and congressional The DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency). The na- control Dyer the entire U.S. intelligence corn- tional Reconnaissance Organization. The whole munity. b bit. "I think we need to do this because were "And I started to see the politics within the getting into an awfully dangerous era when community and the politics between the corn- . we have all this talent (for clandestine opera- munity and the outside. This change of p rspec- tions) in the CIA -- and more being develop tive during those three years had a profound ed in the military, which is getting into clan- effect on me, because I began to see things I destine operations) --and there just aren't that didn't like." many places anymore to display that talent," With many of his life-long views about the Marchetti says. 'world shattered, Marchetti decided to abandon ."The cold war is fading. so is the war in his chosen career. One of the last things he Southeast Asia, except for Laos. At the same did at the CIA was to explain to director Rich- time, we're getting a. lot of domestic problems. and helms why lie was leaving. And' there a. e People in the CIA who -if they "I told him I thought the intelligence com- aren't right. now actually already running dom- munity and the intelligence, agency were too big estic operations against student groups, black and too costly, that I thought there was too movements and the like are certainly con- much military influence on intelligence - and sidering it. very bad effects from that - and that I felt "This is going to get to be very tempting," the need for more control and more direction. Marchetti said in a recent interview at his corn- "The clandestine attitude, the amorality of Portable home in Oakton; a Washington suburb it all, the cold war mentality - these kinds where many CIA men live. of things made me feel the agency was really "There'll be a great temptation for these out of step with the times," Marchetti said. people to suggest operations and for 'a presi_ "We parted friends. I cried all the way dent to .approve them or to kind of look the home." , other way. You have the danger of intelligence Marchetti, 41, hardly looks the stereotype of turning against the nation itself, going against a man who spent 14 years in the CIA. `the enemy within."' His dark rimmed glasses, full face, slightly Marchetti speaks of the CIA. from an insid- stout figure, soft voice, curly black hair and er's point of view. bushy sideburns would seem more at home on At Pennsylvania State University he delib- a college campus. Ile pronounces his name the erately prepared himself for an intelligence Italian way - Nlarkett.i, career, graduating in 1955 with a degree in Marchetti's 'first impulse after quitting the Russian studies and history. CIA was to write a non-fiction account of what Through a. professor secretly' on the CIA was wrong with the U.S. intelligence community. payroll as a talent scout, Marchetti netted the But, lie said, he could not bring himself 'to do prise all would-be spies dream of -an inime- it then. .diate job offer from the CIA. The offer came Instead he wrote a spy novel, "a reaction during a? secret meeting in a hotel room, set to the James Bond and British spy story stereo- up by a stranger who telephoned and identi- types," which he says looks at the intelligence fied himself only as "'a friend of your brother." business realistically from the . headquarters Marchetti spent one year as a -CIA agent in point of view he knows so well. the field and 10 more as an analyst of intel- The novel, "The Rope Dancer, was publish- ligence relating to'. the Soviet Union, rising ed last month. It is a thinly disguised view of through the ranks until he was helping prepare the inner struggle over Vietnam and Russian. .the national intelligence estimates for the strategic advances as Marchetti saw them with- White House. in the CIA, the Pentagon and the. White House During this period, Marchetti says, "I was under Prpsident Johnson. a hawk. I believed in what we were doing." Writing the novel took `a year. Then came Then he was promoted to the executive two tries at non-fiction articles, one rejected as .staff of the CIA, moving to an office on the tog dull and the other turned down as too top floor of the agency's headquarters across chatty, and a start on a second novel. the Potomac River from Washington. But Marchetti said the need for intelligence For three years, he worked as special as-..reform continued to gnaw at him, and as his first novel was about to come out he came into contact with others who agreed with him, in- cludin Rep. Herman Badillo D-N.Y. Approved For Release 200510!/1-3 : CIA-RDP74BOd415R000400160009r,t"ntaec: Now., Marchetti said, the . seconu ilvvei liaa A Gt i r air- , 1 which been laid aside so he a~pplv~vb?( JFbrt lefdsb ~ 4B (~ 0444Q009-8 campaign for reform, agree with those. of the generals. Although now a dove, particularly on Viet- "ewith ver you're working on a problem ham which he calls an unwinnable war to sup- that the military is deeply interested in-be- port a croolted, election regime that can not cause it's affectig one of their programs or even -run an election n that looks honest," Mar- their, war in Vietnam or something-and you re f retti elli en still believes strongly in the.need not saying what they want you to say, the for intelligence collection. "It's a fact of life," he said. "For your own brow-beating starts, the delaying tactics, the r essure to et the report to read more like protection, you need to know -what other peo- they want igt to read," he said. "In other . ple are , t intelligence words, influencing intelligence for the bene- i es in and ndig theence ss'just now a too $S big. billion a n b y ber fit of their own operation or activity. done dois and perhaps done better can "Somehow, some way, you've got to keep ne for or a lot less, ss when you cut out the waste." your intelligence objective. It can't be a pri- For instance, Marchetti said, the National vate tool of the military. Nor, for that matter, Security Agency-charged in part with trying a private tool of the White House." to decode intercepted messages of foreign gov- Marchetti said there is also waste in ?almost ernments- wastes about half its $1 billion year- every technical intelligence gathering program ly bud get. such as spy satellites, special reconnaissance aircraft, and over-the-horizon radars-because "They have boxcars full of tapes up at Ft. when either the military or the CIA makes a Meade that are 10 years old. Boxcars full! Be- new advance the rival agency follows suit with cause in intercepting Soviet radio colnmunica- something almost the same but just different tions, for instance, the Soviets are just as sophis- enough to justify its existence. ticated as we are in scrambler systems. It is almost a technical impossibility to break a scrambled, coded message. - "So they just keep collecting the, stuff and putting; it in boxcars. They continue to listen all over the world. They continue to spend for- tunes trying to duplicate the Soviet scrambling and encoding computers," he ? said. "By the time someone can break it, a dec- ade or two has gone by. So you find out what they were thinking 20 years ago. So what?" Marchetti said at one time a National Intelli- gence Review Board tried to cut out an expen- sive NSA program that analysts agreed was useless. The CIA director, he said, wrote a mem- orandunm recommending the program stop. "But Paul Nitze, on his last day in office (as Deputy Secretary of Defense), sent back a 'memo in which he said he had received the recommendation and considered it, but had de- cided to.continue the program," Marchetti said. Ho said this was possible for Nitze because although the director of the CIA is officially in charge of all the nation's intelligence activi- ties, 85 per cent of the money is hidden in the Defense Department budget. This, said Marchetti, gives the military con- siderable power to shape intelligence estimates. He gave as an example a conflict between military and CIA estimates of the number of North Vietnamese and. Viet tong in South Viet- nam during the late 1060's. The military want- ed a low figure "to show they were killing the VC and North Vietnamese and were win- ning the war." The CIA reported far too many Communists in South Vietnam. to support this military desir, he said. ('1'o be continued) Approved For Release 2005/07/13 : CIA-RDP74B00415R000400160009-8 TI MEXICO CITY IEWS 12 Oct 1973. Approved. For Rule, se 2005/07/13 -RDP74B0041 00040.0160 ? (EDITOR'S NOTE: Victor Marchetti embarked 16 years ago on a career that was all any aspiring young spy could ask. But two years ago, after reaching, the highest levels of the Central Intel- ligence Agency, he became disenchant- ed with what he perceived to be amor- ality. overwhelming military influence, (This is the second and last install- unmarked weapons." By Edward N. DeLong UPI Staff Writer i J1 OAKTON, Va. -- The thing that troubles to a group in a place like Guatemala, Marchetti most about the CIA is its penchant ti said. "They even used to send weapons buy- for the dark arts of clandestine paramilitary ers around to buy arms from the (Soviet) bloc actions, an' area made doubly attractive to the countries." To fully understand why the CIA agency because the military scarcely can op- conducts se-nil-legal operations around. the world, crate in this field. why it might begin to conduct them in the "One of the things the CIA clandestine peo- United States, and why more control needs to ple can do is start up wars," he said. "They be exercised over the agency, Marchetti said; it is necessary to understand the - men. of the can start up a private war in a country, clan- CIA. destinely, and make it look like it's just some. Most of them, he said, dot their start in thing ehat the local yokels have decided to do the intelligence business during or shortly aft- the This, eaccording to, Marchetti is how. the . er World War II when the cold war was going ' United States first began active fighting in strong. "These people are super-patriots,? he said. Vietnam. It is the type of activity now goui - "But you've got to remember, too, they're amor- oil ill gtessiottalntbestimonyorevaos, were rent ealed hhe CIA is run- al. They're not inlinoral. They're amoral. niug a 450-million-dollars-a-Year operation, he The director made a speech tothe Nation- 3 al Press Club where he said "you've just got saki. to trust us. We are honorable men.' Well, ~/Iaengtiue ed said he the is c 196 3' overthrow 3 ove d therthrow CIA not the they are honorable Wien-generally speaking: "But the nature of the business is such that D i only e in regime in Vietnam, which President nt Nixon also has said was the case, but was also wrong, good or evil, moral. or immoral. The responsible for the coup that ousted Prince nature of intelligence Is that you do things Norodom Sihanouk in early 1970, making pos- because they have to be done, whether -it's right or wrong.-If you murder..." sible the U.S: South Vietnamese raid on coils. Marchetti did not complete the sentence., munist sanctuaries in that country several Because. the men of the agency are super- we T later o Southeast Asia clandestine* operations patriots, lie said, it- is only natural for them The S Iy to to violent protest and dissidence as a ma- years ago caused ~,he CIA to set up a phoney or threat to the nation. The inbred CIA reac- airline company, Air America, which now has ton, he said, would be to launch a clandestine as many employes as the 1#3,000-member work- ing staff of the CIA itself, lie said. , operation to infiltrate dissident groups. "Well the CIA is not only monkeying That, said Marchetti, may already have start, l around in Vietnam and in Laos," Marchetti ed to happen. said. "They're looking at other areas where "I don't have very much to go- on," he said. 'Just these sorts of opportunities may present them- intelligence community is already targetin Uon selves. "When they start setting up private' air groups in this country that they feel to be companies and everything else that goes with subversive. wer he the wherewithal for supporting a government know Cthis was IA, and being there sse ein t lot or an anti-government movement, this is very, halls of the very dangerous. Because they can do it in a of people who felt this should be done." clandestine fashion and snake it difficult for With the lack of control that exists now the public to be aware of what is going on." over the agency, Marchetti said, an extremely Marchetti said areas where the CIA might reactionary president could perhaps order the launch future clandestine paramilitary activities CIA's clandestine activities to go beyond more include South Ainorica India, Africa and the " infiltration. Philippines - all places in the throes of social "I don't think the likelihood of this is very upheaval. Upheaval, he said, is what prompts great," Marchetti said. "But one of the ways to the CIA director t o begin planning possible prevent this is to let a little sunshine in, to clandestine activities in a country. have some more controls by the Congress. "That is so if the president says ,go in and ? "There's no reason for so much secrecy. do something, he 's already got his fake airlines There's no reason the intelligence community to fly in people. Ile may have a program going shouldn't have its budget examined. Just both. with the police in this country or the military ers the hell out of hie to see this waste go- ing oil and this hiding behind the skirts of. in that," according to 1archetti? national s(Icurity. You can have your national security, with controls, and you don' need 0 Approved For Release 2005)&1'91$ !l` JX- JJP' 'P4Bt00415RO00400160009-8 In addition to Air America, Marchetti said, the CIA has set up both Southern Air Trans, port in Miami and Rocky Mountain Air in Phoenix for possible use in paramilitary opera- 'ions in South America. Similar fake airlines have been bought.and sold all over the world, he said, including one in Nepal and another in East Africa. thing they can get their hands oil-alt over the world-that is untraceable to prepare for the contingency that they might want to ship arms