JOURNAL OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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• Publication Date: May 22, 1972
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OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Monday .- ?2 May 1972
Met with Senator Harry Byrd (I., Va.) and
explained our problem with the amendment to the Foreign Relations Authorization
Act (S. 3526) requiring a ten percent cut in the overseas personnel of certain
agencies. Senator Byrd said that he thought such a cut would be desirable as
applied to most agencies and would not be willing to :vote to strike the amendment,
however he would be willing to support an exemption for CIA.
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In the absence of Senator William Spong, I talked
to Thad Murray and Carolyn Fuller, of his staff, regarding the ten percent
cut in certain overseas personnel (S. 3526). They said Senator Spong would
probably support an exemption for CIA but would not support a motion to
strike the entire amendment.
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Monday - 22 May 1972
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9.1 1 Met with Hannah McCornack, in the office
of Senate Minority Leader Hugh Scott (R., Pa.), and left with her a package
.of material on section 504(a) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act of
1972_(. 3526. Included in the package was a- suggested floor statement,
(Miss McCornack had previously received a copy of this from USIA with some
additions USIA is suggesting. ), a copy of the committee report pertaining to
this section and an extract from the Congressional Record containing the
discussion on Senator Bellmon's amendment exempting the Department of
Agriculture from the 10 percent personnel cut provided for in this section.
Miss McCornack said Senator Scott had returned to Washington this morning,
but she had not yet had an opportunity to talk with him about introducing the
amendment to strike section 504(a).
Later in the day we were advised that Senator Scott had agreed to
introduce the amendment.
10.1 IMr. Scott Cohen, Executive Assistant to
Senator Charles Percy (R., Ill. ,addressed the Advanced Intelligence Seminar
in one of the Senate Appropriations subcommittee rooms.. Cohen's remarks
and request for the views of the seminar members stimulated a lively discussion
of issues facing the Congress in which the Agency has a particular interest.
He spent a considerable amount of time discussing Senator Cooper's bill (S. 2224)
to provide for the passage of intelligence information and analyses thereof to
the Congress.
In talking with Cohen after his address about the possibility of Senator
Percy supporting Senator Scott's amendment to strike section 504(a) of S. 3526,
Cohen said he was sure Percy would support a specific Agency exemption
from this section but was equally as certain that it would be difficult to get
him to vote for Scott's amendment especially in view of the fact Percy is a
member of the Foreign Relations Committee which reported this bill out and
he is also up for reelection this year.
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11. I I Met with Sam Goldberg, Legislative Assistant
to Senator Charles McC. Mathias (R., Md.), to obtain Senator Mathias' support
for the Scott amendment to strike section 504(a) of S. 3526. Goldberg said he
thought the Senator would be sympathetic both to the Scott amendment and to our
position on the dissemination of information provision (section 205) of this bill
which I had also discussed with him. He pointed out, however, the Senator
would be out of town from tomorrow until 4 June and therefore he would be
unable to cast a vote if either of these amendments came up during that period.
12. Mr. Maury and I met with Senator Ernest
Hollings (D., to solicit his support for Senator Scott's amendment to
strike section 504(a) of S. 3526. The Senator asked a number of pertinent
questions both as to why the Agency should not be cut and why he should support
the amendment to strike all of this section. He seemed particularly persuaded
by the judicial argument which we presented that this added to an encroachment
by the Foreign Relations Committee on judicial responsibility of other committees
(such as the Senate Armed Services and Appropriations Committees) in making
cuts in the personnel departments and. agencies under their jurisdiction. The
Senator said he would support both Senator Scott's amendment and the proposal
by Senator Stennis to exempt CIA from this section if the Scott amendment fails
to pass the Senate.
13. I (Received a call from Charles Ablard, General
Counsel, USIA, who said they have been talking with Mr. Bob Mosbacher,
Legislative Assistant to Senator Howard Baker (R., Tenn.), about the Senator's
amendment to strike section 205 of S. 3526 having to do with the dissemination
of information abroad by U. S. Government agencies. Ablard suggested we
contact Mosbacher and see if we can be of any assistance to him.
Mr. Maury and I visited with Bob Mosbacher who said they thought of
calling up the Senator's amendment the latter part of this week but he was having
second thoughts about this since he has some concern about the support they will
get on the floor. We agreed it would be wise to hold off a few days on this if
possible in an effort to try to get more favorable votes. Mosbacher said he had
the feeling Senator Cooper might be sympathetic to the position of USIA, CIA
and others concerning this section and suggested we talk with Senator Cooper
and sound him out on this. He said if Cooper seems at all sympathetic, Senator
Baker will follow up on this in an effort to gain his support for Baker's amend-
ment. He also said David Abshire, Assistant Secretary of State for Congres-
sional Relations, would be asked to contact Senator Aiken in support of the
Baker amendment. Meanwhile Mosbacher asked if we would provide him with
the language we have already developed modifying section 205, as reported by
the Foreign Relations Committee, in order to meet the requirements of USIA,
and CIA in case Senator Baker needs this as a fallback position. We told him
we would get this material to him.
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Monday - 22 May 1972
14.1 I Met with Jack Ware, Administrative Assistant
to Senator Gordon Al ott, regarding the amendment to the Foreign Relations
Authorization Act (S. 3526) requiring a ten percent cut in the overseas personnel
of certain agencies. Ware thought Senator Allott would probably not support
a motion to strike the amendment, but would support an exemption for CIA.
15.1 Talked to William Woodruff, Counsel, Senate
Appropriations Committee, regarding the amendment to the Foremen Relations
Authorization Act, who said he was sure Chairman Ellender would not vote to
strike the amendment but might support an exemption for CIA.
16.1 I Talked to Chris Sylvester, Administrative
Assistant to Senator Milton Young, regarding the ten percent personnel cut
amendment to the Foreign Relations _Authorization Act (S. 3526 who said
Senator Young would undoubtedly support an exemption for CIA but probably
would not support a motion to strike the amendment.
17.1 11n the absence of Senator Henry Jackson, talked
to Richard Perle, on the staff of the Subcommittee on National Security and
International Operations, regarding the ten percent personnel cut amendment
to the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, who said he thought Senator Jackson
would support a motion to strike the amendment or, if such a motion failed, 25X1A
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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Friday - 19 May 1972
Discussed with Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel,
ena a rme bervices ommi ee, the problem of the ten percent cut in
overseas personnel called for in one of the amendments to the Foreign Relations _
Authorization Act (S. 35.26). ' Braswell pointed out that the White House strategy
calling for a motion by Senator Scott to strike the entire provision in question,
involved certain hazards. He said if this motion is defeated, it will then be more
difficult to get exemptions for individual agencies such as CIA. However, the
White House has made up its mind and we agreed there was nothing much we coy;~1
do at this stage but try to pitch in and get all our friends alerted to support
Senator Scott's proposal.
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4. I I Jim Halmo, Congressional Relations of State
Department, called in behalf of David Abshire, Assistant Secretary of State for
Congressional Relations, to say that they had arranged for Senator Hugh Scott
to introduce a motion Monday to strike the ten percent personnel cut provision
of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act (S. 3526). He suggested that we alert
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11.1 I Marshall Wright, Deputy Assistant Secretary
of State for Congressional Relations, called to say Tom Korologos, of the White
House, has been in touch with Senator Hugh Scott's (R., Pa.) office and believes
the Senator will introduce an amendment to the Foreign Relations Authorization
Act of 1972 (S. 3526) striking section 504(a) which would impose a 10 percent
personnel cut on U. S. personnel abroad. Wright suggested we get in touch
with Scott's office and support this move with whatever material we could
provide them and then make our contacts on the Hill to line up votes.
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Talked to Hannah McCornack, on the staff
or Hugh cot (R., Pa.), about the Senator introducing an amendment
to strike the 10 percent personnel cut provision in the Fore n1jtiona-_
Authorization Act of 1972 (S. 3526) and offered to provide her with some
material for this purpose. Miss McCornack said Senator Scott is out of the
city and they will not know until Monday whether he will agree to submit the
amendment, but said she would like to have whatever material we could provide
her by Monday morning. I subsequently talked with Charles Ablard, USIA,
who said he had given Miss McCornack our material on the motion to strike
the 10 percent cut with some modifications which they had made. He said
they would send us a copy over the weekend.
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Friday - 19 May 1972
20. In accordance with Circular A-19
instructions, advised Ralph Malvik, in the Office of Management and Budget,
of Mr. Helms' 18 May letter to Chairman Stennis on section 504(a) of the
Foreign Relations Authorization Act of 1972 (S. 3526), explaining that the
Senate Armed Services Committee had made an urgent request for a letter
concerning'the implications of the 10 per cent overseas personnel reduction
on the Agency. In response to his request, a copy of the letter was sent to
Mr. Malvik. I IOPPB, was advised.
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Thursday 18 May 1972
1 I I Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate Armed
Services Committee, caned the first thing this morning in connection with
the Senate's action last night in approving Senator Bellmon's amendment to
section 504(a) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act of 1972 (S 3526)
exempting the Department of Agriculture from this section. Braswell said
the Bellmon amendment was brought up without prior notice and since Senator
Fulbright has indicated he would fight an amendment to delete all of section
504(a) Braswell was going ahead with the specific exemption for CIA. He
asked us to provide him with a letter to the Chairman signed by the Director
which could be used by Senator Stennis on the floor indicating the Director
was seriously concerned about the amendment, pointing out that overseas
personnel have already been cut by 20 percent since 1967, and that further
cuts would impair activities vital to the national security. Such a letter was
prepared, signed by the Director, and delivered to Braswell by mid-morning.
In discussing the personnel cut provision with Messrs. Maury and
Cary, Braswell expressed exasperation with the White House in not having
Senators on the floor to follow the legislation and coordinate the Administration's
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Senator Stennis or himself. Braswell said he would ask Senator Stennis to
submit the amendment for an Agency exemption today.
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3. I I Talked with Marshall Wright, Deputy
Assistant Secretary of State for Congressional Relations, and expressed
our concern over the unilateral move by Senator Bellmon yesterday in
obtaining an exemption for the Department of Agriculture from the provisions
of section 504(a) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act of 1972 (S. 3526).
I told Wright that Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate Armed Services Com-
mittee, was proceeding with his efforts to have Senator Stennis obtain a
specific exemption for CIA. See Memorandum for the Record.
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7. I I Met with Senator Milton Young whom I briefed on
recent developments regarding Indochina, including merchant ship movements
and the Soviet and Chinese propaganda line; latest information on Soviet ICBM
development; and demonstrations of Soviet military support for Egypt.
I called the Senator's attention to our problems with certain pending
legislation, including Foreign Relations Committee amendments to the Foreign
Relations Authorization Act (S. 3526). I also commented on some recent
malicious allegations about the Agency in the press. The Senator said he
would be glad to say something about this if we thought it useful, and I said
we might take him up on this.
8. I I Charles Ablard, General Counsel USIA, called
to say Senator Howard Baked introduced a motion to strike the amendment
to the Foreign Relations Authorization Act (S. 35261 dealing with dissemination
of information by Federal agencies. I told Ablard of our continuing concern over
another amendment to this bill, calling for a ten percent personnel cut in the
overseas strength of the Agency and other departments. I complained that
Senator Bellmon had "jumped the gun" by introducing an amendment exempting
the Department of Agriculture from this provision, thus disrupting what I thought
had been our coordinated plan. Ablard said Bellmon would have been glad to
include other agencies in his amendment but received no support from the White
House or anyone else. He commented that it might still not be too late to get
Bellmon to introduce a substitute amendment except Bellmon planned to be out
of town for the next several days. I said that in view of the present situation
we felt we had to move quickly and, in response to a request from Chairman
Stennis, had already provided him with backup material for an Agency exemption.
However I said if the provision in question could be struck entirely, that would
suit us very well. I said we had put our case in the hands of Stennis and it was
up to him as to how to handle it.
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