PROCEEDINGS AT THE CLOSED-DOORS SESSION OF THE SENATE ON JULY 14, 1965

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• Publication Date: July 27, 1966
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PROCEEDINGS AT THE CLOSED- The Staff Director of the C
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DOORS SESSION OF THE SENATE on Foreign Relations, Mr. Marc a inc VICE PRESIDENT. Is there
dtion? Hearing none, It is so or-
ON JULY 14, 1066 The Chief of Staff of the Committ
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,ER TO PUBLISH on Armed Services, Mr. Darden. Mr. MANSFIELD. If I may make one
Mr. MANSFIELD, I now ask unanl- den tr was the n
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when
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hour
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mous consent that there be a sanitized ? the Committee on Appropriations, 1 o'clock arrives, if the matter now beforb
version of these proceedings prepared,' called? ,the Senate has not been concluded-and
that It be under the authority of the Mr. MANSFIELD. No. -.'I feel certain that will not be-tho
chairman and the ranking minority Mr. RUSSELL of Georgia. He has just time be ignored and Iw continue on the
members of the Armed Services Commit- taken the oath. Does the majority present subject.
tee and the Appropriations Committee leader wish to hnvn 71R.. ... _~ ..,.
?.?,.~ Lit; a-vrc,g^ nc1aDions committee; )remain? 'Inc VICE PRESIDENT. Is there ob-
that they will take out anything which Mr
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Jection? Hearing none
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s so ordered.
IELD, Mr. President, I
might be detrimental and that the record. would include also the name of Mr, . . Has the Senator from Montana now
be made public, and that qby Senator Woodruff, who, I understand, has been placed before the Senate his requests on
who partici
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have the right,, sworn. all the Matters to be. presented?
to correct his own remarks, The VICE PRESIDENT. Without ob Mr, MANSFIELD. I have.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. (Mr fenfion w"
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ELD. Mr. president, I. " Muaunule(;iIMI-Y inquiry.
The Chair hears none 'and .'It is so 'ask unanimous consent that the Official The VICE PRESIDENT. The Rannfnr
elf;: ordered- J,? - . ^ --
Mr. MANSFIELD.. Mr. President; I rv -v ^va,deu w mKC proceed- acorn Iowa will state it.
:., . ings of the closed session in shorthand " Mr. HICKENLOOPER. My question,
move that the Senate go, into'i closed but that the notes not be transcribed; ? goes to thi
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session. ac
on: I merely wonder how
:; and that, when the session Is concluded, anyone hereafter who wants to announce
Mr. DIRKSEN. I second tj}p,Yiotion. '' they be placed in the custody of the See- his vote or wants to say anything about
'he VICE PRESIDENT
retasy of the Senate
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and
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ept secret by . his vote in public can do so if the action
I,'r; < : } ? wishes to make a statement. him along with other minutes and mat we take here Is secret with the exception
di` ~. ~...~. The motion hnvlnn been ,,,,,a.. -ters of such nature already in hi
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go into closed If the vote is to be announced?
session, the Chair, pursuant to Rule Mr. FULBRYGHT. Mr, President, a Mr. MANSFIELD. Well, the votes
? XXXV, now directs the Sergeant at Arms parliamentary inquiry. have been announced,
The VICE PRESIDENT. The Sen-
to-clear the galleries, close the of Mr. the I under
phis Chamber, and that all officials of the ator from Arkansas will state it.
doors '- stand that hat the unanimous-consent
pienate not cleared for secrecy be ex- ,--M! F't?LIIRIGHT. Does this proposal
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" this matter? If so, I think t that should meeting. How do we get around that?
, o'clock and 25 minutes
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doors of the Chamber were closed,) be stated. Mr. MANSFIELD. The subject, of
Mr. MANSFIELD. Going back to the course, and the vote would both be made
PROPOSED COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE only previous closed session of which I' public; and before we went into closed
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...... e, and believe - the result was taull unar, raised by the distinguished
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addition to the demand or the request announced. Senator or from Georgia
RUSSELL]
or the suggestion of the Presidin
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Mr. RUSSELL of Georgia. I ask that' chairman of the Committee ttee on Armed
that the Senate Chamber and the gal-.` the distinguished majority leader with- Services,
leries be cleared of all pers
ons except hold that for the time being. I do not Mr. HICKENLOOPER. I have no ob-
the Senators, I move that the followin
'know th
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T shall have any objection. I jection to making the result of the vote
k? Vii. staff members be allowed to remain: really did not see any necessity for going public.
' ~?:,,? The Secretary of the Senate_ into a closed sessi .
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an, anr. rwaafck; thhe
combines wisdom Is greater than Mr; SYMINGTON. Mr, President, re-
The Legislative Clerk, Mr. Mansur; mine. . Certainly any vote that has been serving the right to object, I am disap-
The Journal Clerk, Mr. Somers; taken In a closed session that I hav
e over ;pointed we are now going into a closed
The Official Reporters. Messrs, l attended has been made a matter of pub- session. There has been some criticism.
Drescher, Attig, Cinciotta, and Perry; ie' Iecord. of the Senate being a club, that the
The Secretary to the Majority and Mr. MANSFIELD I think it should be. Members do not like to have facts dis-
Minority,.Messrs. Valeo and Trice; The VICE PRESI-.DENT, Will the cussed released when It Is not to their
The Assistant Secretaries to the Ma Senators Indulge the Chair for a mo- convenience. I would therefore ask this
jority and the Minority, Mies tot the Ma Graves
ment? The precedent In the rules' Is . question, and premise it by the statement
and Brownrigg; that any action taken now In the closed that there has been, In my opinion, many
The General Counsel to Majority, Poi session Is closed, and that means that It assertions which are unfounded, with
icy Committee, Mr. Ferro; Is in secret. It can be divulged only by ' respect to the-0 perations of-.the Con-'
TCommitee at. Arms Mr. Dun specific affirmative action by the Mem- trat._Intelllgence Agency, I say that
? phyi tiers of the Senato or by a majority of after having made extensive trips to the
The Deputy Sergeant at Arms, Mr, the Senate.
Wannall; Far East, Middle East and Europe, and
Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr
The wa.,,o..I-a__u~_ - 1~renfAena r ,
Sergeant at Alma, Mir. LaootarMl w aav ? tham unaramous consent at fe taken be made piubl cat A - to q ally vice, to and
>LI' Vole out whether this basin make on was true
;~ or not: Dow the CIA make policy?
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,,,? o:,, GRL~~TON ~ RECORD - SENATE July 27. 1966
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They
are at1j nve bccn4ventllntcti this afternoon anything, butt1they are Wo nderinnSC~e''ing 1-Mr., MUNDT. It would make me very
order, that we bury this issue In the
Armed Services Committee, in limbo and
in perpetuity. If a majority of the Sert-
,i ate decide they want to bring it back for
an opportunity to look at this. If we mittee and the Foreign Relations Com-
The Senate can force its will, and I think
that the proper thing to do, under t eso can do it by agreement, I think It would mittee; that they will take out anything
look a lot h ? ?
tions for the CIA, because we can put it
ta1111ng the point of order, to the Armed
Services Committee means that it is
buried there. I do not think it tyould
be, but let us assume that. May I Joint
out that the Senate Is not without it
great family of legislative tools by which
we onn reactivate this discussinn 'rhra?a
hi tnrougn a series of approaches. We
can do it by an amendment to an anrr?n-
more comforting and reassuring to the however wedo~it, we a riveoat tile r_tme W1611 Lo out, that
people of the United States of America, legislative home, with the sane results
when we go out of here, if they learn and the same opportunities to reactivate
that as gentlemen we agreed to do some- I It at any time a majority of the Senate
thing, not that we had to split our lines desires.
and be recorded as being pro or con on sv 1 S
era
enatois. Vote. Vote.
tile Proposition.
Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, I.
As the senator has pointed out
am
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e certain in my own mind, at
not a final vote. It will decide nothing, least, that the distinguished Senator
This is merely 'a vote on jurisdiction; from Georgia and his committee will not
and many of us feel-I
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one-that
oo un
easonable in seeking a solution
possibly there ought to be some particl- to the question which Is before us at tho
pation on the part of the Foreign Rela- moment.
Lions Committee on some sort of com- ? But, having said that, I now ask unnn--
mittee, whether a standing committee
Imous consent th
t
,
a
there be a snnl?
a select committee, or some group of the' lzed version of these proceedings pre.
Senate. pared, that it be under the authority
I am one of those wh
of th
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hat the
rman and the ranking mi-
Armed Services Committee has primary ' nority members of th
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order, see what happens for a given
period of time In the Armed Services
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