LETTER TO MR. PRESIDENT

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Approved For Release 2004/03/11 : CIA-RDP75B00380R000200010024-7 14 September 1973 Mr. President: I appreciate the concern of the Senator from that the Central Intelligence Agency not engage in domestic activities outside of its statutory charter. But I do feel that it is unwise to legislate in this area without the benefit of hearings where this matter can be thoroughly considered with the care that it deserves. I do not believe there is any disagreement whatsoever on the fact that the Central Intelligence Agency should not engage either in domestic intelligence or in the exercise of police powers. Moreover, the 1947 law (section 102 of the National Security Act of 1947) prohibits such activities: "PROVIDED, That the Agency shall have no police, subpoena, law-enforcement powers, or internal-security functions.... " It is the clear intent of the law that CIA not be engaged domestically in collecting information on citizens of the United States who, unlike Agency employees, for example, are not of legitimate interest to the Agency. Moreover, the CIA quite rightly has no police, subpoena, or law-enforcement powers and as far as I know has never attempted to exercise such powers and its legal inability and lack of authority to do so is abundantly clear. On the other hand, I do not think there is anything in the law which would prohibit CIA from protecting its installations in the United Approved For Release 2004/03/11 : CIA-RDP75B00380R000200010MQ, 8/11/2003 Approved For Release 2004/03/11 : CIA-RDP75B00380R000200010024-7 States or investigating its personnel or other persons having a need for access to its information, or, of course, in engaging in activities in the United States solely in support of the Agency's foreign intelligence mission. I do feel, however, that because of the sum of events the time has come to review the statutory underpinnings of the Central Intelligence Agency to assure that the statutory lines drawn by Congress are clear and where we want them. Such a review can only be conducted properly through the traditional hearings process as the judgment reached by Congress should be the result of comprehensive consideration of all relevant factors. As I stated in my 19 July letter to Senator Muskie, I have already started some staff work review of the CIA Act preparatory to hearings by the Senate Armed Services Committee. During the planned hearings all proposed changes, additions or deletions can be fully developed. One problem I have with the amendment illustrates why I am disturbed about developing legislation on the floor of the Senate without proper background hearings. As I read the amendment, CIA could be effectively prohibited from providing assistance of any kind to any agency engaged in police, law-enforcement, or internal- security functions. Let's consider what this could mean. Approved For Release 2004/03/11 : CIA-RDP75B00380R000200010024-7 Approved For Release 2004/03/11 : CIA-RDP75B0038OR000200010024-7 In the course of its intelligence mission, CIA could develop information on such things as narcotics smuggling, aerial high- jacking, terrorism, and foreign directed espionage and subversion, information which could assist in forestalling serious criminal action or security threats within the United States. Does the Senator really want to prohibit the forwarding of that type of information on to the domestic agencies who could use it to prohibit or solve a criminal offense ? Mr. President, it is hoped that my colleagues will agree with me that the amendment of the Senator from should be rejected with the understanding that all legislative proposals relating to CIA will be given a fair and full hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee during the 93rd Congress. Approved For Release 2004/03/11 : CIA-RDP75B0038OR000200010024-7 Approved For Release 2004/03/11 : CIA-RDP75B0038OR000200010024-7 S 14190 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -- SENATE July 20, ..19'73 Eagleton amendment, now we become Again, this is beyond the ambit of this' that kind could and would be fully consld- lawyers and take a look at it. Here again, bill. ered by the Committee at that time. I could there are Problems. The matter was so eloquently and pro- support some major points In that particular I would like to point out the d efiiled cisely put by the Senator from Maine amendment an a part of a bill on the subject, parameters of the 1 agleton amendment: -(Mr, Musxii,) in what he said in respect but fully oppose the amendment presented an a part; of the War Powers 13111. Any person employed by, under contract 'of the amendment. It simply does not fit The ))ill. now before the .`lnate, as flnn)ly to, or under the direction of any department within this context, and considering the written and improved by the 1Ybrelj(n lhelrl- or agency of the United States Government. historic nature and importance of the tione Committee, is an excellent bill sad in That could include almost anyone; it context we should not burden it with confined to the Constitutional subject of ac- is not confined to the CIA. Indeed, it is substantive questions which in addition tunny committing the nation to war. r i f n I t it r li b ll 1 I b orage may be. Later on, I will explore the jurisdiction of another legislative whether it would cover foreign nationals, standing committee, to wit, the Com- and particularly foreign nationals who mitten. on Armed Services; and where may be covert intelligence agents of the we are not faced with any question of United States, For instance, would Colo- avoiding the Issue, but have the word of net Penkovsky, who was a member of the a man whose word rings as true around Soviet military and who provided so here as that of any Senator of the United much key intelligence to the CIA right States, and that Is that he proposes to out of the Kremlin, the Sovie't~eneral deal with the question. Staff, would he have been covered? One other point which Is Interesting: Lots of things lead to war, A man on I, too, have talked with the Senator from horseback may lead to war; 'national Mississippi (Mr. STENNIS) at length. He hatred could lead to war; anything could was very relucant to make this expres- lead to war. We cannot deal with all those sion on this particular amendment, be- subjects in this bill. cause he felt that he wanted no feel- Another important consideration is ing here in the Senate that he was try- that there outside the Armed Forces, ing to have his voice carry Senators was are covered by the bill, is no agency when he was far away from us. He, too, ol; the United States which has any ap- like everybody else, wanted to be subject preciable armed forces power, not even to debate and cross-examination. But I the CIA, They might have some clandes- think the Senator from Maine (Mr, tine tagge'~.Tits with rifles and pistols engag- Musicm), and I prevailed on him to feel big in dirty tricks, but there is no capa that as he had used his privilege very bility of appreciable military action that 'sparingly and he had this bill so close to would amount to war. Even in the Lao his heart, this was a measure in which thin war, the regular U.S, Armed Forces that was deserved, and I am glad to say had to be called in to give air'support. he acted accordingly. 'd' ho minute Combat air support is re- . Mr. MUSKIE. Mr. President, X yield quired you have the Armed Forces, and myself 2 minutes, the bill becomes operative. A key control Reference has been made to communi- w7hich would not be reached by this cation with the Senator from Mississippi amendment even If it could, would be ' (Mr. STENNIS), and as the Senator from control of the use of money, The fact New York (Mr. JAVITS) has explained, is that vast sums of money were given to the Senator from Mississippi was very Vang Pao in Laos to pay for mercenary reluctant to appear to be trying to in-' Moo army. The use of Air America, which fluence votes here when he could not' was a logistical operation, and not a participate personally. But we prevailed combat operation, presumably would not upon him, and I take the opportunity to be reached by the amendment along read that letter into the RccoRD: it was a key factor ii CIA involvement iii JULY 19, 1873. 11. EumvND ,S. MuSKIV, the secret war in Laos, F51os Finally, one point of draftsmanship. U.S, Senate, It will be noted the amendment starts Washington, D.C. out with the language, "Any person em- ' Dana ED: If I could he on the Floor, I would support you fully as you push for the 01 ploYed by. That includes a foreign per- son, as well. There are many clandestine agents who are foreign and employed by, In the sense of being financed, main- tained by, and directed by Department of the U.S. Government, which is one of the facts of life. Are they covered by this bill? If they are clandestine agents who are members of foreign armies does this amendment apply? Suppose a mem- ber of the Soviet or Chinese, or Vietcong armies is a CyI(1,,, "controlled American source," does this amendment apply if his unit goes into hostilities? Substantive law can determine what activities can be engaged in with respect to foreigners in terms of pay, and so forth. Law can determine that, but it is hardly a methodology. You would be dealing there with substantive a- -passage of the War Powers Bill, as reported by the Foreign Relations Committee, with- out further amendments of any substance. One amendment of substance is by the Senator from Missouri, Mr. Eagleton, who has done much work and has made a fine contribution to this Important bill as it now stands. This amendment has a prohibition of using the C.I.A., or its funds, in war activi- ties of the type we have used in Laos. The experience of the C.I.A. in Laos, as well an more recent disclosures of matters hero at home have caused me to definitely conclude that the entire C.I.A. Act should be fully reviewed. Accordingly, I already have in mind plans for such a review of the C.I.A. Act by the Senate Armed Services Committee and have already started some stall work thereon. All proposed changes, additions or deletions can be fully developed and hearings held thereon at that time. I have already completed, but proaches to the law. Shall the United have not yet introduced some amendments of my own. The proposal by the Senator States employ foreign citizens for these from Missouri, Mr. Eagleton, to explicitly, 1":lrt' st ? r It does, In What mW11101', a11d prohibit any action by the O.I.A. of the typo - -- tbau naatrollad, and an forh1? Wo 11ayu 11 41 111 7afloal Qr 1MV.001er A9t-vlw,y of con net o s p obe e eve Ms , subject matter will pass the Senate by a large vote and will emerge from the Conference Committee as a bill with meaning. There are reports, which I hope are erroneous, that a veto is in prospect if this bill passes. If so, I feel so strongly that a meaningful bill relating to the War Powers, and the, re,ponsi- billties of the President and the Congress, should be passed, and I would strongly urge that that bill pass, the veto notwithstand- ing. If we clutter the War Powers 13111 with other matters we would probably kill what is otheriso a good chance to override a pos- sible veto. Again, I certainly wish you well, and hope the Committee bill in its present form can be preserved and passed and panned by a large vote. Most sincere yours, JOHN C. STENNIS, I think those who read this e~'~eer would agree that this is an extraor- dinarly strong 'tomnutment from the Senator from Mississippi, To have an- ticipated a veto, and to have indicated with such vigor his intention to press for an override, I think is the kind of action the Senator from Mississippi would rarely take. It is because of his voice, and that of the Senator from New York, and my own understanding of the forces that wont into putting this bill together, that X reluctantly oppose the amendment of the distinguished Senator from Missouri, Mr. EAGLETON, Mr. President, I yield myself such time as I may consume. I sat here and listened with deep Inter- est to the comments of both the Senator from Maine (Mr. MusicIE) and the Sen- ator from Now York (Mr. JAVrrs). They are both men of extraordinary capability 'and good will, and I suspect that deep clown in the inner recesses of their hearts they know I am right. I think they would like to vote for the Eagleton amendment. In fact, I think they believe In it, because what triggered tile situation that we find ourselves in today-what triggered the war powers bill pending before this body today-was not the fact that all of us went, during the recess, to academia and hibernated with professors. We did not just sit there and react lots of constitu- tional lawbooks, statutes, and what have you. It was not because a lot of thought had to be given to the methodology, to use the word used by the Senator from Now York, But it was due to the fact that for a decade we had been in all atrocious nightmare In Southeast Asia. This bill was not conceived In the abstract. It was not conceived in the ethereal. It was conceived in blood- 50,000 dead and the whole litany of what occurred in Southeast Asia. That is why we are debating this bill today-not be- cause it is a prosaic idea, but because of our recent tragic experience. That experience has many facets--not Only 1ib4 Quit p9' rjn;"n 11^. 'sit ,4, ,sl4 11 CA U.S. Senator. Approved For Release 2004/03/11 : CIA-RDP75B0038OR000200010024-7 Aidk' pproved For R Iease30~4/03/11: CIA-R P75BO038'OF2000200010024-7 ,' 07 y ~'' :"(;;^{i'? `",''~F jY-{'`iL ,' ~'Y.1,'?`9 1i CI ~~?'`){!:`.} ~1 r?r'.\ y L +,-i ft JL4e1 ~+..J wcl `~.I.IL.W..Ii..la. ILL) h.1 `4-/ .I.i. Sid. ti..J Q '" (/ li .lA ELI W By Judy Nicol `'' ' A 'Iy1 ;~ a tl-? -y in remarks prepared for dcliv- )t'xsl,lnston Po t Staff wrltr, I ~{ (I (r ' - ~~ ZI I ~, Is e cry in the Senate today, called v, f'? :, , .~~J tJ .,,.11 U. /~) G;r1' for it Commission on the Ol- sen. John C. Stennis, chair- flee of the Presidency to ex man of the Senate Armed National Security Act, saysiovcr the 1Valcr,;a~:c tapes and amiuc the institution. Services Committee, Said yes- the ahency shall have no po?:the President refuses. Stennis Sen. Walter F. llondale (D-j terday, that he hopes to hold lice, subpoena, law?enforc~.-?said. "1 think it would be the Minn.) said the American 1 h idings aimed at further r-c-I rent powers or internal secu-; most g r a v e situation that's people seem to have "one he- rgenc ng the Central lntelin I city functions" in the Unied al'isen maybe in a hundred yond simple respect for the of gence Ahency's invohven)ent'In States. years." flee of the Presicicnc?y. . .111 domestic affairs. P,ut the 1947 statute con.; "The main thing is to limit tales a loophole which has ( In an ABC broadcast yestcr- stead we have be u^ to create day, Sen. Howard Hughes (D- a monarchy out of an office in. (CIA) operations, domestic op- served as a charter foi specia'. l.owa) said that the American tended to be the bulwar of orations," said Stennis on foreign and domestic open-1 Face the Nation, a CBS inter tions It say r ., that the agency-people "shoula not be eiraid democracy." of the impeachment process. view pro ;ram, shall perform such other ?To be afraid to use (the im- "I totally disapprove" of do- functions and duties related to mestic political intelligence intel]i,fence atfecting the rill . peachment power) would operations by the CI.1, said tional security as the National mean we would be placing in the Mississippi Democrat who Seeuriy Council may from the hands of this President is chairman of the Central In- time to time direct." and all future Presidents an telligrence Subcommittee of Stennis, speaking of the implied power that they could his ,Armed Services Commit- Watergate scandals that un-;do anything they wanted to in tee. ,folded as he was cons clesciti f cleliance of the lily and the Ile said lie was told in ,Tune, from gunshot wounds received courts . . . with inpunity, 1972, by Richard M. Helms, in a January robbery, said,'tt'ttlt immunity, Hughes said then CIA director, that the ?As an American citizen I'nl~on ABC's Issues and Answer. ashamed of it. (program. CIA had no involvement in the Watergate burglary. He The senator said that he had I "If the facts indicate that said Helms, now ambassador' attended a recent hearing a, the President is in violation of to Iran, "came to Illy office it the U.S. Cotll't of Appeals on ! the law, or if the President isi very-few days tl)ereal'ter tied President li on's refusal tj refusing to obey the direct or- assured me they did not have tin over Tapes of conversa. (lei's of the Supreme Court, anything to do with planning tions relating to the Water- then not to use (impeachment) or anything in connection with; gate matter. would be a failure of the sys-; that. break-in" (of the Demo-' if the Supreme Court rules tern entirely," said Hughes.' cratic National Committee of-'.that Mr., Nixon . should turn; A third, Democratic senator, fices. in the Water' "ate office building,) Helms could not be reached' for comment yesterday. IIclnts' successor, William E. Colby, has acknowledged that the CIA had erred in prepar- ing a psychiatric profile of Pentagon Papers defendant Daniel Ellsherg and in provid- ing cameras, tape recorders r and disguises to White House aides E. Howard Hunt Jr. and G. Gordon Liddy. Liddy and Hunt were later convicted in the Watergate break-in. The CIA's charter, the 1947 Approved For Release 2004/03/11 : CIA-RDP75B00380R000200010024-7