JOURNAL OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL WEDNESDAY - 29 MAY 1974

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• Publication Date: May 29, 1974
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OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Wednesday - 29 May 1974
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1. Called Doug Marvin, Senator Roman
Hruska's staff man on Senate Judiciary Committee, for his prognosis on the
muskip tomorrow. Marvin said it will be very close, Senator
IFI-ruska appears tote the only spokesman for the compromise and Senator
Kennedy will support the Muskie amendment. We reviewed the names of a
number of Senators who might be helpful to Hruska's position, including
Senators McClellan, Stennis, Pastore, Jackson and Scott and I said we
would see what we could do to punch through to those on our Subcommittees.
2. Called Norvill Jones, Subcommittee on
Surveillance staff, Senate Foreign Relations Committee, concerning the
Muskie Surveillance Committee questions explaining that although we were
swamped we were not forgetting his requirements, which he appreciated.
I said that if we couldn't get something up to him this week that certainly
with Mr. Cary's return we should have something next week,
3. Met with Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel,
Senate Armed Services Committee, and discussed the upcoming Muskie amend-!-
it to th-a rrp-pdom Information Act gave him a package of material
explaining our position and urged him to end us a hand.
Braswell still has no answer on the $3. 8 million for Laos. He said he has
not had an opportunity to review it with Chairman Stennis. I said we are being
pressed and he replied sharply that he is immersed with larger issues, and
"tell them" that he will get to it when he can.
I provided him with a copy of Warner's statement before the Muskie Sub-
committee. He commented that sessions such as thes e are inevitable, especially
as the Agency branches out into the economic field and that the Committee could not
be expected to successfully maintain the scope of jurisdiction it has exercised
heretofore as the Agency continues on paths beyond the Committee's aegis.
Braswell said Senator Proxmire would be proposing two amendments to the
authorization bill, scheduled for the floor next week. Although the language is not
available, one would restrict CIA domestic operations and the other would make
public overall budget figures for intelligence activities. Braswell will need some
help on these and I said we would provide some backup material for their use and
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4. Attended an open session of the Muskie
Subcommittee on Intergovernmental Relations, Senate Government Operations
Committee, at which John Warner, General Counsel, testified. Senators
Muskie, Chiles and Roth were in attendance at various times. Considering
the atmosphere, the predilictions of the members and the subject matter,
the session went very well. Mr. Warner was pushed in several areas:
reaction to McGeorge Bundy's recommendation that the congressional
committees make greater use of CIA resources .and capabilities and Warner
explained that we were providing a variety of substantive intelligence briefings
to a number of committees; who determines which committees receive
information on Agency operations and Warner replied this was for Congress to
determine and we presently provided this information only to our oversight
committees; a hypothetical example of top secret material which may not find
its way into the Agency's index of classified material and he replied this would
be difficult to do in an open session but when the hypothetical nature of the
question was stressed he indicated such things as a penetration of the Chinese
government. At the conclusion, we were provided a list of questions on which
we are to submit answers for the record. OGC, has action.)
5. (1 P Provided Guy McConnell, Senate Appropriations
Committee staff, -a copy of John Warner's prepared statement before the
Muskie Subcommittee on Intergovernmental Relations. I also reviewed with
him the impact of the upcoming amendment to S. 2543 and left with him a
package explaining our position, that we will need upport and that we have
been dealing with Paul Summitt.
McConnell confirmed that he would be meeting with Harold Brownman,
DDM&S, on Friday on the Renegotiation Board matter.
6. In his absence from the office, left for
Ral ph Preston, ouse Appropriations Committee staff, John Warner's prepared
statement before the Muskie Subcommittee on Intergovernmental Relations along
with a note concerning the two upcoming amendments by Senator Proxmire to
the authorization bill, and reminding him of the Chairman and Mr. Colby's
exchange on Tuesday concerning publication of budget figures.
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7. F :1 In his absence from the office, I left
for Frank Slatinshek, Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee,
a copy of John Warner's prepared statement before the Muskie Subcommittee
on Intergovernmental Relations, Senate Government Operations Committee.
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In response to a request by William Timmons,
and I attended an interagency meeting at
strategy on Muskie's amendment to S. 2543.
9. George Murphy, Deputy Director,
Joint Committee on Atomic Energy staff, called to ask for. an Agency evaluation
of two recent news items. After conferring with I OCI, I 25X1
called Murphy back and provided the required information.
10. Received a call from
FBI, who told me that the Bureau is actively working and may attempt a
specific exemption for themselves from an amendment to be proposed on the
floor tomorrow by Senator Philip A. Hart (D., Mich.) which would implement
a rule (a bad one) put in by Elliot Richardson a year or so ago to the effect
that all investigative files fifteen years or older be opened up for release
to the public. The bad section involved relates to investigative agencies
files. I told that we were working on other portions of the ri
of In nrma+;m? A-4- .hut fortunately this bad part would not be bother-some for
us unless the philosophy carried over into other areas.
11. Talked to John Lally, Counsel, Special
Subcommittee on Armed Services Investigating, House Armed Services
Committee, who told me he has set aside for our security review prior
to publication those portions of the Committee hearings on My Lai that have
reference to the Agency or Agency activities, as well as the interview of
Ambassador Colby in Saigon. I thanked Lally and made an appointment for
EA Division, and myself to meet with Lally tomorrow morning
to review the transcripts.
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