JOURNAL OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP75B00380R000700030048-4
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• Document Page Count: 6
• Document Creation Date: December 19, 2016
• Document Release Date: November 21, 2005
• Sequence Number: 48
• Publication Date: June 4, 1974
• Content Type: NOTES

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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Tuesday - 4 June 1974
1. (Unclassified - GLC) Senator Henry M. Jackson called this
morning and asked if we would check and see if any democratic country
in the world made its intelligence budget public. He said he knew that
the identity of the head of MI-6 was known only to the Prime Minister but
he would be interested in knowing what the situation was in other countries.
The Senator wants this information for use in a floor statement against the
roxmire ame ndrn hick would require the Director to submit annually
t e o a budget figure for the National Intelligence Program. I told the
Senator that was on the Hill and I would have him get in
touch with Dorothy Fosdick, of the Senator's Subcommittee staff, and
give her some material on this.
2. (Unclassified - GLC) Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate
Armed Services Committee, called and said Senator Stennis wanted to
have available for his own use in connection with t Proxmire amendment
debate today a classified rundown on where the intelligence money went.
He said he would like Ito give him a call so he could check a
few items in 8-page letter to Braswell.
3. (Unclassified - GLC) Called Chris Sylvester, in Senator Milton
Young's office, and Jim McKenna, in Senator John Pastore's office, to be
sure that they and their Senators were aware of the floor debate on the
n~today. I told them we had provided material ttoo~`
Jim Calloway, Counsel, Senate Appropriations Committee, and Guy McConnell
of the Committee staff, and would be happy to be of any assistance to their
Senators.
4. (Unclassified - GLC) Senator Milton Young called to advise us that
xmi ' admendment had been defeated by a vote of 55-33. 25X1
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the Senator for his efforts on our behalf.
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5. I Called Guy McConnell, Senate Appropriations
Committee staff, and thanked him for his work in our behalf in defeating the
Proxmire amendment today.
6. I called Jim Calloway, Counsel, Senate
Appropriations Committee, to thank him for his efforts in our behalf in
fighting the Proxmire budget amendment today.
8. Talked to Frank Slatinshek, Chief Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, concerning the Prc~srrnira amendment
Slatinshek stated that he would appreciate an
analysis of the amendments for Committee review.
9. Talked to Ralph Preston, House Appropriations
Committee staff, and brought him up-to-date on yesterday afternoon's floor
debate in the Senate o amendments to the Security Act.
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10. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Met with Jack Ticer, Chief Clerk,
Senate Armed Services Committee, in the absence of Ed Braswell and Clark
McFadden, of the Committee staff, who were with the Chairman at the time
and reviewed with him the contents of our package " e' e
udaet D sclos " on amend a@& Ligg-.11" -1 -0 11 - -
inc u ing our proposed suggested floor statements an certain
~^~ a~gro u nc zaterial. I said I would be delivering the identical material to
the Senate Appropriations Committee staff and to Tom Korologos, White House
staff, and coordination to avoid duplication in use of the material would depend
upon them.
11. (Internal Use Only - LLM) In the absence of Jim Calloway, Chief
Counsel, Senate Appropriations Committee, met with Guy McConnell, of the
Committee staff, and reviewed with him our package "Foreign Inte Iliprence
- explaining our plans for further distribution of the package and
the need for coordination.
12. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Met with Tom Korologos, White House
staff, and reviewed our package " Disclosure" on
mend ent No 1369 of the Procurement Authoriz
rovided to him. o im w o we had been in contact with and who-we were
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planning to contact on the subject. Korologos appreciated being read in and
asked me to stay on tap on the Hill until the amendment was disposed of.
13. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Met with Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel,
Senate Armed Services Committee, who had a copy of our package 'i
Intelligence " on amendment No. 1369 of the Procurement
u or -"'_1,;11 (.-q 300 1 in hand and he said a propose e n s were
verkillloon the basis that they think they have the situation well in hand. He
was obviously under some pressure and complained that we were late in pro-
viding the material since he had alerted us to the amendments by Proxmire
last week. I reminded Braswell that we did not get the details of the Proxmire
amendment even in draft form from the Committee until late Friday night that
I had met with Clark McFadden on Saturday to discuss this in general and that
as promised we had a complete position paper in McFadden's hands first thing
Monday morning. Braswell asked if that position paper covered the National
Intelligence Program disclosure amendment and I said it did and pointed out
that we had carried over that portion of the paper into the package he had in
hand. He reviewed that statement in the package and concluded it was too
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14. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Met with Frank Krebs, Legislative
Assistant to Senator Howard W. Cannon (D., Nev.), who said the Senator
might want to make a statement on amendment No. 1369 to S. 3000. the
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15. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Met with Ed Kenney, Senate Armed
Services Committee staffer assigned primarily to help ranking minority
member Senator Strom Thurmond (R., S.C.), and provided him with our
package "Foriegn Intelli ence Budget s " on amend ment No. 136
0 w is he appreciated.
During the debate on amendment No. 9 Senator Thurmond used
statement "D" in our package. Also during the debate he used item "E" in
response to assertions that Colby/Schlesinger foresee no problem with budget
disclosure. I had earlier pointed out to Kenney that this would be one of the
prime arguments by Senator Proxmire.
16. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Met with Dorothy Fosdick, Senator
Jackson's Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations staff, and reviewed
with her the problems posed by upcoming amendment No. 1369 to S. 3000.
She said she was aware of the situation u i not ee that Senator Jackson
would want to get out in front on it but she was going to reconnoiter on the
floor to see which way the sentiment was flowing.
Later, after contact with Mr. Cary, I met with Fosdick and Senator
Jackson and drafted a short statement which he used in the debate on amend- STAT
ment No. 1369.
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18. (Internal Use Only - LLM) In response to a call from Mr. Cary,
met with Tim Furlong, Legislative Aide to Senator Lloyd Bentsen (D., Texas),
and reviewed with him the pros and cons of amendment No. 1369 to S. 3000,
the Procurement Authorization bill. Furlong seemed convinced of the merits
of our position and said he would set to drafting a statement for the Senator and
asked if I had any material he could draw upon and I gave him a copy of our
package "Foreign Intelligence Budget Disclosure. "
Furlong made it clear that much of the steam behind the Proxmire
amendments concerning CIA was not an anti-CIA bias but a feeling that CIA
was playing favoritism with Senators like Scoop Jackson who then can use the
secret material to overwhelm the opposition. In response I pointed out that
this just is not so and that as a matter of fact we provide a great number of
congressional briefings but in light of the obvious drain on our resources we
concentrate on briefing committees on the substantive areas within their
jurisdiction. I stressed the extent to which we try to be responsive to the
interest of members of Congress.
19. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Witnessed the debate on the Proxmire
amendment No. 1369 to S.-U-01-0, the Procurement Authorization bill, which
would have required the Director to submit an annual unclassified report to
the Congress on the budget for the National Intelligence Program. The amend-
ment was defeated by a vote of 55 to 33 following spirited debate, particularly
by the opponents of the amendment. Highlights of remarks of Senator's
Pastore, Humphrey, Stennis, McClellan, and Jackson indicated certain things
just must be secret, that we are more open about foreign intelligence in our
society than any other democracy, that information on a need to know basis
is available to any Senator, and that disclosure of the National Intelligence
Program if not bad enough by itself would be only the first step in pressing
for further disclosures which would be damaging to our national interests.
Senators Goldwater and Bill Scott (of Virginia) associated themselves with the
above remarks. Statements in support of the amendment were generally
limited to those of Senators Proxmire and Hughes. Among the points stressed
by Proxmire was that the report by the Special Committee to Study Questions
Relating to Secret and Confidential Government Documents recommended
itemization in the TlcafanSp Annronriations hill for intelligence activities of
each agency within the intelligence community and this recommendation was
supported by the Majority and Minority Leaders (Senators Mansfield and Hugh
Scott). Interestingly, Scott voted against the amendment. Senator Hughes
principal concern seemed to be that the greatest threat to the nation is not
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20. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Following the debate on amend
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No. 1369 to S in a cInce meeting
-George Murphy, Joint Committee on Atomic Energy staff, said that he was
going to Senator Pastore's office to review for accuracy the Senator's remarks
on the Senate floor today concerning the amendment. Murphy wanted to know
if I had picked up any misstatements and I said that I had not and that Pastore's
remarks were forceful and persuasive and that he had made an outstanding'
case against the amendment.
21. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Following the debate onmen
No. 1369 , in a chance meeting
o ar McFadden and Jack Ticer, Senate Armed Services Committee staff,
McFadden thanked us for all the material we had supplied, noting that I had
been in the gallery and had observed for myself how it had been put to effective
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23. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Mike Madigan, Senate Select Committee
on Presidential Campaign Activities staff, called to determine the status of
the sanitization of the Baker report. (This is not the first time I have reviewed
the status with Madigan or Thompson, of the Committee staff.) I again referred
to the 3 April letters to Senators Stennis, McClellan, and Baker on this subject
indicating that we had complied with the request for suggested security deletions
and substantive comments but that, as the letters clearly state, this is a
matter contrdled by our oversight Committees. Madigan claimed to be puzzled
by this and said he had just talked to Jim Calloway, Counsel, Senate Appro-
priations Committee, who said that the declassification was beyond the authority
of the Appropriations Committee and was up to CIA. Madigan is trying to get
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and I said I hoped he could et clarification from him.
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