JOURNAL - OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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Tuesday - 29 April 1975
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At a reception for Chairman Thomas Morgan,
House Interna iona e a ions Committee, several. current and former
Congressmen privately expressed deep concern over the security of sensitive
intelligence information in the current environment.
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15. Accompanied , OCI, to a
briefing of Senator ick ar . , Iowa) on the situation in Vietnam.
Richard Moose and Charles Meissner, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
staff, were in attendance.
Following the briefing, Senator Clark expressed his deep gratitude
for the almost constant briefing service we had provided him; observed his
obviously would be the last session on Vietnam and suggested that we might,
however, be meeting with him on other issues in, the future.
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16. I In the company o OCI
met with Senator Charles Percy (R. , Ill.) in response to his earlier inquiry
to Pat Holt, Senate Foreign Relations Committee staff, and advised him what
information he could not use from the NID in discussing issues with a. foreign
visitor later in the day. Scott Cohen sat in on. the session and the Senator
was very appreciative of our corning by. We stressed the absolute essentiality
that no attribution be made to the Agency on any information he used and
the particular sensitivity of the information in the NID which he cannot: use..
17.. In the company of " OCI
met with Eric Foreman, in the office of Senator Dale Bumpers (D. , Ark.
and gave him a general review of the situation in Greece and. Turkey,
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Richard Schulze (R., Pa. ), called and said that the 94th Club of the
Freshman Republicans had their meeting and decided that their group
was not large enough to warrant Mr. Colby coming up to the Hill to
talk to their Club, and decided a breakfast/briefing at Headquarters would.
be better. After checking the Director's calendar, the briefing was scheduled
for Wednesday, 14 May at 8:00 a. m.
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Patrick J. . , Vt. ), and asked if it was necessary for the Agency to reply
to the latest letter from the Senator on behalf of his constituent, Professor
concerning his FOI request. She said no reply was necessary
ponded directly to the Professor on 24 April 1975.
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20. I Galled , DC/EA/VNO, and
provided the local address of in response to a cable from
Vietnam that they had not been able to locate him, (See Journal Item #12,
25 April 1975) II said he would send this out immediately.
I later called Peter Sheridan and informed him. that we had not
yet been able to locate however, the listing of those evacuated were
incomplete and a check wou be made to determine if he is among those
who were able to leave,
a copy of the food production report to her today but that the Agency was
issued a limited supply to be distributed only directly to either Representatives
or Senators. She said she understood.
21. I I Called Mrs. Yates, on the staff of
Chairman Charles C. Diggs, Jr. 's (D. , Mich.) Subcommittee on Africa,
back and told her we would get
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13. I IMrs. Yates, on the staff of Chairman
C; harlPa _C_._.niatYc t.r tic T) T~/Tirh ) Subcommittee on Africa., use
7nf rnaf.innal Pt Intinng nm.rn.f+W, called and asked for a copy of 717
report, "Potential Implications of Trends in World Population, Food
Production and Climate" and we said we would get one to her shortly.
14. Gordon Frey, in the office of Senator
Thomas J. McIntyre (D. , N. H. ), called to advise us that he had received
a complaint from a constituent, , that the
Agency was not promptly handling his request under the Freedorn of
Information Act. I explained to Frey that a large volume of these requests
had been received in a very short period of time and they could not be
handled promptly, however, all efforts were being made to handles them
as quickly as possible. Frey said he understood this completely and made
it clear that he would not press us in this matter. I told him, however, f
would check on the status of this request and let him know.
15.1 1 George Gilbert, OMB, called and requested
fifteen additional copies of the Agency's revised package proposing legislation
to protect intelligence sources and methods. He asked for the copies as
quickly as possible and stated that they intend to expedite the handling of the
proposal through OMB. Copies were sent immediately.
16. Pat Yack, in the office of. Representative
Alan Steelman (it. , Texas), called and asked if the Agency had any non--sensitive
information which can be given to Mr. Steelman concerning the world grain
situation. I discussed this with OCI, and a paper is being
prepared to be used for official purposes only,
17. I Ed Terrar, on the personal staff of Representat
Bob Wilson (R. Calif. ), called and asked for assistance in the handling of a requ(
from a major in the U. S. Army who is a close friend of Mr. Wilson and a former
Green Beret in Vietnam. who had a list of about 70 Vietnamese military and civilia
whom he asked be given assistance in evacuation. from. Vietnam. The major c:la.io-
these individuals worked closely with him. Terrar and I agreed that it would be
better if the major goes through Army channels since the U. S. military would
have undoubtedly sponsored their evacuation. Terrar said be would check with the
Army Legislative ffi d would call me back if necessary.
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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Wednesday - 23 April 1975
1. I I Called Ralph Malvik, OMB, to report:
that the Agency is In u suppor of GSA's draft bills to amend 5 U. S. C.
5724a(a)(3) and (4) to liberalize conditions under which an employee may
be entitled to subsistence expenses while occupying temporary quarters;
and liberalizing code provisions which authorize reimbursement for the
expenses of sale and purchase of a residence upon the transfer of an
employee. No written response is required.
2. At Mr. Cary's instruction, called
Russ Rourke in the White House regarding H. Res. 400. I inquired whether
his office had been requested for comments by the No 7 Committee on
intevnatinnal xzPlaFinns and what the Administration's position was.. I. told.
him we had some special problems with this because of the section of our
charter which exempted the Agency from the provision of any law requiring,
disclosure of the names, numbers, or functions of personnel. Rourke was
quite sympathetic to our problem but said he believed this resolution was being
handled by the office of Phil Buchen, Counsel to the President. He then
suggested I call Rod Hills, whom he said had been newly appointed as deputy
to Mr. Buchen and who would know what action was being taken. I subse-
quently called Hills at the number Rourke provided but he was tied up and
said he would get back to me this afternoon.
3. I I Called the office of the Senate Committee
on Government Operations regarding S. 653, Senator William Proxmire's
(D., Wisc.) bill to permit GAO audits of CIA accounts and operations. I was
referred to Elizabeth Priest, one of the clerks for the Committee, who said
that the bill had not been assigned to a subcommittee and that no agencies
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4. Called the office of the Eou.se Committee
.[~tltnrn;rfn Aff-.;,-e fo discover the status of H. Res. 400, Representative
Elizabeth I-Ioltzman's (D., N. Y.) resolution of inquiry directing the
President to release to the House of Representatives information o?.
Americans remaining in Saigon. I was told that the seven-day limit for the
resolution had been exceeded but that due to the press of the Committee's
business regarding Vietnam aid, the. Committee hoped to convince
Ms. Holtzman to allow them a few more days to act upon it. With
Ms. Holtzman's consent the Committee would very likely consider the
resolution April 24th or 25th or the first of the following week..
5.1 Called Cliff Hackett, House International.
Relations ( nmm;ft a~ staff, in connection with, his query-y-377-77777y and to. .
TATOTHRhim since n was apparently an American citizen with no
association with the Agency that we could be of no "help 'in locating him,
for visiting West German Parliamentarian, Bernhard Bussman. No
further action is necessary.
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6. Met with Charles Snodgrass, House
Appropriations Committee staff, and told him because of the press of other
business Mr. 1 :1 OCI, had not been able to pull together the paper
on the various publications which Snodgrass understood. He also said. that:
he had finished the review of the NIE had provided hina which
Snodgrass characterized as an outstanding paper and asked if we could
provide him a similar paper on similar sources. Mr. Q has been
advised.
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7. Accompanied Carl Duckett-, and
DDS&T, to a briefing of the staff of the Senate Aeronautical and.
Space Sciences Committee staffers on the Soyuz program. Those in
attendance were: Robert Allnutt, James Gehrig, Charles Lombard, and
Craig Voorhees. Mr. Duckett covered the program from the aspect of
safety to U. S. astronauts and success of the overall mission. As a follow
up, which we promised to provide for their review but not retention,
a draft of a related paper being prepared by which will be
ready in about a week.
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5: Accompanied , OCI, to a briefing
of the Senate u iciary committee and the House Judiciary Subcommittee
on Immigration, Citizenship, and International Law, as part of -Ambassador
Brown's task force on evacuations from Vietnam., See Memorandum. for
the Record.
6. In follow up of his earlier request,
updated Guy c onne Senate Appropriations Committee staff, on
Agency action with respect to Agency personnel and 0
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Elmer Henderson, Staff Director, Subcommittee
on Legislation and National Security, House Government Operations Committee,
called to cancel Wednesday's 3:30 p.m. briefing and recommended another
time.
8. I I In response to her earlier call, called
Julie Marshall, in the o i.ce of Senator Dick Clark. (D., Iowa), to set:
up a briefing for the Senator on Vietnam at 10:30 a.m., Wednesday,
23 April. NIO/SEA, will do the briefing.
9. I I Bob Hull, State Department, called and
asked for the Agency's position on a proposal by OMB now being circulated
for comments on striking the 1% "kicker" from. the cost-of-.living adjustment
formula of annuities. He said State recognized that annuitants had been
over compensated and the 1% added on should be struck but was suggesting
a flexible formula. I said I would check and let hint. know.
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o a continuation of last week's briefing of the House Appropriations
u comma ee on Defense on the intelligence community budget. See Memo
for the Record. The Subcommittee asked that the briefing be continued again
next Tuesday, 29 April 1975, at 10:00. After checking the Director's calendar
this time was confirmed.
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Accompanied , NIO/SEA, to a
briefing of Marian Czarnecki, Chief of Staff, H-,,- Tnt:n..r., s
Committee on Vietnam.
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may have on this document. will stop by.
Peggy Welsh, in the office of Senator
Dewey Bartlett, called and asked if someone could stop by and pick up a
.document which one of the Senator's constituents had sent them. The Senator-
would like to know what we know about the publishers and anything else we
13.1 1 Attempted to see Tom Smeeton, Houge,
4^rnafir l Polafir f"nmmiff staff, but in his absence spoke to Ev Berman.
iand asked him to tell Smeeton that IC Staff, and I would like to
meet with him at an early date.
14. Susan Boone, in. the office of Represehta.ti:ve
Robin Beard, called and asked how they should go about endorsing someone
who has applied for employment with the Agency. I suggested she have the.
Congressman address a letter to me and that I would send it to the Office of
Personnel. I said in the meantime I would alert Personnel of the Congressman's
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21.1 I Al Tarabochia, Chief Investigator,
Senate Judiciary u commit ern Internal Security, called and referred
us to a floor statement in yesterday's Record by Senator Richard Stone
(D. , Fla.) introducing a Senate Resolution 131 to require Senate approval
of any change in American foreign policy toward Cuba. Tar.aboch.ia stated
that Senator Stone introduced his Subcommittee's annual report describing
the Soviet and Cuban intelligence efforts against the Ven.ceremos Brigade-
22. I I Called Mike Van Dusen, LIause Int-ea-.naf;ionn.1.
PoInf4nns C"rtmmitfF.a staff, to learn if the Subcom.ndttee on Investigations f,.a-d
firmed up a date for the proposed briefing on Diego Garcia. He said it. might
be Thursday or Friday of next week but he would have to check on the Cau.ctu ss.
schedule but he would check and let us know.
23.1 Called Charles Snodgrass, House
Appropriations Committee staff, and confirmed that Jack lams, Comptroller,
would not have to be present for the continuation of the Defense Su.bcom.nrj%t:tec
briefing on Tuesday, 22 April.
1947 and 1949 Acts. There are several follow up items and
IC staff, has been notified.
At his invitation, met. v it;jx 11l.a:o4:t
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article in the Los Angeles Times on the briefing given the Subcommittee
on Investigations by , NIO/SEA on 16 April, Van. Dusen. agreed
with me that the article was distorted in major aspects and that any coat ments
by the committee members on the briefing violated the agreement reached.
with him and Chairman Lee Hamilton (D., Ind.). Van Dusen was deeply
disturbed by the revelation and said that the Chairman would be also and. in.
response to his request for guidance, I suggested that at a minimum the
Chairman might wish to consider calling Mr. Colby to provide necessary
reassurances so that we can continue to comply with the interests of the
Subcommittee in substantive intelligence information in consonance with the
groundrules which must apply to avoid politicalization and. to protect; the
sensitive information involved.
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office of Representative Peter A. Peyser (R., N. Y.). Their office had
received a postcard suggesting the recipients can the main CIA number for
harrassment purposes. Lucas asked if we would be interested in having this
postcard, and I said to send it to my attention.
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Mike Van Dusen,. -?nns Tnf arna -jr 1 Y
-_Rel2.f ons ommittee staff, called to say he had spoken to Chairman. Lee
Hamilton (D., Ind.) about the revelations in the Los Angeles Times
of the classified briefing of the Subcommittee on Investigations on. 16 April.
Van Dusen said that the Chairman intended to call the Director. Later in
the day it was learned that Mr. Hamilton also called Mr. I
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Elmer Henderson, Staff Director,
Subcommittee on Legislation and National Security, House Government
Operations Committee, called to request a briefing on the military situation,
in South Vietnam and evacuation therefrom for 23 April at 3:30 p.m. He
explained that this' in effect would be an update to a previous briefing by
State Department representatives and DIA. I told Henderson that we would not
be prepared to talk on the evacuation program which was not within. our
jurisdiction but that we would be pleased to provide an intelligence briefing,
on the military situation in South Vietnam, not as part of a presentation
by State and DIA, but as a separate input suggesting that we could lead
off with our briefing and then leave. Henderson said he would review
these suggestions with Chairman Jack Brooks (D., Tex.).
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14. (Secret - LLM) Called Bob Kuttner, Senate Banking, Housing
and Urban Affairs Committee staff, and informed him that the Agency had
no interest in the transactions he had provided me that had occurred -he
and that the only service performed by that account was as I had discussed
with him in our session of 16 April.
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Called Marian Czarnecki, Chief of Staff,
Hn?ca__r,etc.s=xsa.ica~l_B.al~_t,_ctr.~ f??mmirlPP and advised him of an unfortunate
Los;.Angeles Times article by Paul Houston which quotes from a briefing given.
to the Committee staff on Wednesday concerning Vietnam., I said the article
also quotes information that is very inaccurate. I told Czarnecki, we wanted
to cooperate with the Committee but we did not want our closed sessions
leaked to the press. I said if we can't be assured this will. not happen, we
will have to take another look at our briefing policy. Czarnecki said he had
not seen the article but that he would bring this to the Chairman's attention.
He asked that I send him a copy and I said I would send one on Monday morning.
Czarnecki asked me what members were present and I told hima:,, I only had a
partial list available at the moment and he said he would. ask Mike Tan Du.sen
for the full list.
17.1 11n connection with Mr. Colby's request
to prepare a response to statements made by Congressman Paul Findley (R., J11.)
I called Roger Knapp in the office of the Undersecretary for Congressional
Relations of the Department of Agriculture. Knapp explained how the, House
Committee on Agriculture handles oversight of the Departnaeni: of Agriculture.
18.. I ICalled Mike Hall in the office of
Representative Paul Findley (R., Ill.) to inquire about the basis for Certain
statements made by Congressman Findley regarding CIA. After searching
for a couple of minutes Hall said he couldn't find the file he had accumulated
in preparing the Congressman's remarks and would call mare back as soon as
he located it.
19. Delivered, to the, offices of Senators
Mike Mansfield (D., Mont.), Dale Bumpers (D., Ark.), Representatives
Daniel J. Flood (D., Pa.), George Miller (D., Calif.), Anthony Moffett
(D., Conn.), and Morris K. Udall (D., Ariz.) in. which their
names were mentioned.
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20. 'stall, I Met with. Sandy Gilbert, Defense Sub-
committee House Appropriations Committee, and told her that we
had received an original only of the Director's testimony of 17 April before
the Committee, that it covered pages 1 through. l93,,. and that it was available
to the Committee upon their request.
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5. Met with Bill Ashworth, Senate Foreign Relations
Committee Stall, an reviewed with him the subject matter to be covered. in
the Director's briefing of the Arms Control, International Organizations and
Security Agreements Subcommittee. It will be essentially the same briefing
that was given to Senator Jackson's Senate Armed Services Arms Control
Subcommittee, i. e. , the limits of SALT, Soviet compliance, ambiguities, etc.
I stressed with Ashworth that the Director would not take a position on the issue
of possible violations other than to discuss instances of ambiguities. We
settled on 10:00 Thursday, 10 April for the briefing. He mentioned that
Secretary Kissinger was scheduled to appear before the Subcommittee on
11 April and Secretary Schlesinger later in the month.
6. I Jack Marsh, Counselor to the President,
called late in the day to say he had received calls today from two congressional
offices (Representative John McCollister and Senator Jesse Helms) conveying
reports that missionaries are being advised to evacuate Saigon by boat and that
people are going about the streets in Saigon giving this advice over loudspeakers.
Marsh said if there was any truth to these reports he would like to be advised.
I checked with , Deputy Chief, EA Division, who said he was
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to Marsh until State receives a reply to a cable sent to Ambassador Martin on
this subject this afternoon.
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6. J Received a call from NSA General
Counsel, regar ing the implications of House Rule XI and the Harrington
episode on Chile. I briefed him fully on this and then asked him if NSA had
focused on H. R. 1674, the Daniels bill giving Government employees ra ht of
counsel. II did not seem to be familiar with the bill so I had
of this Office, discuss it with him in detail.
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Keiat,nnG called and we confirmed arrangements for
NIO/SEA, to give the Committee staff an updated briefing tomorrow at 10:30..,
8. Talked with Bill Ashworth, Senate Foreign
Relations Committee staff, about the desirability of 9 ..!April versus 10 April for
the Director's briefing of the Arms Control, International. Organizations and
Security Agreements Subcommittee. We will get together tomorrow to set:tle..
on a time and review the substance to be covered.
9. I j John Warner and I met with Mike Ler ov and. Tom
Greene, staff n the Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee of House
Interstate and Foreign Commerce Committee, to discuss the various aspects
of Global Marine Incorporated filings with the SEC. See Memo for. Record.
10.1 I Mr. Cary put me on the line to talk toll
about 16'14. He did not appear to be familiar with the bill,. but
I outlined it for him and pointed out that it was a lift from the Ervin. bill of
the last Congress, S. 1688. I reminded him that the I-louse Post Office -and.
Civil Service Committee appeared willing last Congress to give NSA and CIA
a full exemption from S. 1688. He said he was all for getting full exemption.
this time around. I told him we were submitting a report on the bill to the
Chairman of the Post Office and Civil Service Committee via OMB, in which
we would express opposition to the bill and ask for an exemption.. He said he
would o to the committee as well.
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in the office of Representative Thomas E. Morgan (D., Pa. who requested.
that one of our recruiters contact Pennsy.l -.
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vania, at her home. I called Personnel, gave address
and phone number and was told that C/Recruitment Division,
would have someone phone her within the next two to three weeks. I passed
this information on to David Smith, in the Representative's office, (Chesney
being gone for the day had informed him of the call), who requested that
they be kept informed as to progress on the case. I suggested they send
a letter indicating the Congressman's interest in this application so that we
could keep them posted and gave them the proper address..
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7. 1 1 Called Chris Sylvester, Administrative
Assistant to Senator Milton R. Young (R., N.D.), and advised him that a
25X1A constituent, . who applied to the Agency, was being notified
by a letter this date that we did not have a suitable vacancy. I assured
25X1A Sylvester that we had give application a very careful review and,
because of the Senator's interest, wanted to advise him of the outcome of t:be
application.
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25 tX1A s Accompanied , OCI, who
briefed Marian Uzarnecki, Chief of Staff, r rri f r,i H-H r.~ e
on the situation in Vietnam and Cambodia. The only follow up
also responded to several questions relating to Turkey and
Portugal. The purpose of the briefing on Vietnam was to update Chairman.
Thomas Morgan (D., Pa. ), who is in Pennsylvania, which Czarnecki, will do
by phone.
In response to my query, arrangements for reporting to the Subco?.u-nit:f:ee
on Oversight, pursuant to the new requirements of the Foreign Assistance
Act, Czarnecki said they would follow the organizational meeting schedu3ed
for 8 April. In connection with that meeting, I told him Mr. Cary would
advise him on the procedures followed with the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee since Czarnecki feels the Subcommittee will. want to adopt similar
procedures. In connection with Rule XI problem, Czarnecki is in favor of
the A e Sion of the transcripts.
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item was a list of the Cambodians who left Phnom Penh with Lon Nol,
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6. (Called the office of Representative Robert:
McClory ann poTce with nis appointment secretary Betty Teitgen, regarding
our interest in having the Congressman come out for, a background briefing
on the Agency at his convenience. She said he would be back from the IPU
meeting in Ceylon around 10 April. and she will remind him at that time.
7. I ICalled Mildred Ward, secretary to Senator
John Stennis, in DeKa i, Mississippi, and told her that and I
would come down and brief the Senator tom orrow it the , ena.t:or wished , I
said, however, there really wasn't anything we could add to what is in the
papers on the Indochina situation. She said she would pass this on to the Senator.
and call us if he wanted us to come down.
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25X1 8. Received a call from Nancy Carmen, secretary
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who said Czarnecki would likel to come up tomorrow at 9: 00 a. m. to'
brief him on Vietnam. After talking with Jack Brady, of the Committee staff,
and finding out that the Chairman had asked Czarnecki. to get an update on
25X1A Vietnam, and after checking wit I called Miss Carmen and ex.pla.ined.
that I couldn't possibly make it tomorrow morning due to an important
meeting but I would be there at 9:00.
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25X1 9. Called Julie Dutterer, in the office of .
Representative Glenn English, in response to her request td , and
asked her for the name of the individual involved. She gave me the name in
strict confidence. I told her she really should contact State but I would check to
see what our people had to say.
I called her back and told her that I had checked here and we just did not
know if the woman's name was on the list for evacuation, but we could only assume
that because of the work she was doing her name in all probability would be on
the list. She then asked me if the list was available and I told her I didn't know.
I suggested if she wished to pursue the matter further, that she go back to State
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confidential basis.
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10. Called Herb Roback, who is now a staff
member of the House Armed Services Committee, regarding the call John
Warner had received from Tom Greene. Roback said he did not know Greene'
personally but had heard of him and he said we might find ourselves in a bit:
of difficulty with him. Roback, as usual, appreciated our dilemma. He
said he thought we might find an analogy in what he thought was a similar
situation involving the Defense Department and C-5A.cost records on overruns.
He suggested that we might want to call Gordon Niederlander in DOD to see
how he has handled problems of this sort. I discussed this with Warner later
who said Defense has specific regulations covering its actions in matters of
this sort and pointed out as a matter of fact their situation is quite different
from the one we are now working on.
11. I 1 Tom Greene, who said he is Representative
John Moss' Special Counsel for the House Subcommittee ot-1 Investigations, for
Interstate Commerce, called me this afternoon indicating that Moss was looking
into SEC problems. , Greene indicated he had been briefed byM.r. Loomis of
SEC and had been given my name. He said Moss was most anxious to get the
facts on this and wanted to know what CIA authority existed which could override
SEC law and regulations. As I attempted to think about explaining this, it- was
clear this could not be done by telephone. Tentatively, a meeting has been set
in Moss' office with Greene present for 11:45 a. m. tomorrow, 2 April.
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staff,
confidential package on
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Delivered to the office of Senator. Edmund
S.. Muskie (D., Me.) a letter for the Senator to forward to
Met with Tom. Smeeton, Minority
Delivered a letter addressed to
Mr. Frederick Schwarz, Jr., ie Counsel, Senate Select Committee to
Study Government Operations With Respect to Intelligence Activities. The
letter was written by Mr. John Warner, General Counsel.
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