JOURNAL - OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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• Document Creation Date: December 16, 2016
• Document Release Date: September 2, 2004
• Sequence Number: 31
• Publication Date: September 25, 1975
• Content Type: NOTES

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Journal -- Office of Legislative Counsel
Thursday - 25 September 1975
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LIAISON Bill Hogan, House Armed
Services Committee staff, called and said since tomorrow has been
designated a "legislative day" the visit to Headquarters by the
Intelligence Subcommittee, scheduled for tomorrow morning, will
have to be cancelled.
16. LIAISON Guy McConnell, Senate
Appropriations Committee staff, called and said that Senator Milton
Young (R. , N. Dak.) had an inquiry from a newspaper man and would
like me to pick it up for comments. I did this late in the day.
17. LIAISON At the request of Bill Wright,
in the office of Senator Milton Young, I dropped by to see him and he
gave me a copy of a letter from Hal Simons, staff writer for THE,
FORUM, posing a number of questions to the Senator concernin C?
activitias.-aid Senator Young's role as a member of ie Intelligence
Operations Subcommittee of Senate Appropriations.
18. LIAISON Frank Slatinshek, Chief
Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, called to review the
circumstances surrounding the current issue between the Agency and
the House Select Committee. He asked if there was any current dialogue
going on and I said at the moment there was not although we and the
White House were trying to work out some sort of agreement to resolve
the problem. I told him in the meantime we are declassifying as much
of the material as possible.
Slatinshek mentioned he had heard rumblings about the possibility
of an amendment being offered to our appropriations bill, but he had
no details at the moment.
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DDO, to a briefing of Representative Barry M. Goldwater, Jr. (R. , Calif.) on.
the People's Republic of China. Joseph Overton, Legislative Assistant also
participated. The briefing went well and the Representative appreciated getting
educated on what he considers to be an important area of the world.
7. THIRD AGENCY Spoke with. Mr. Greenwood,
Congressional Research Service, Library of Congress, and told him that this
Agency had no statistics on the number of U. S. citizens employed by our
Government overseas. Greenwood replied that he thought this would be the
case but appreciated our checking anyway.
8. DEBRIEFING Accompanied
Ito Representative Bi.1 1
Archer's (R., Tex.) office to debrief him on his recent trip to the Soviet Union.
The debriefing went well and it is apparent that Archer.
and is also a supporter of the Agency. He promised to forward copies of the
.notes he made on his trip together with a list of the people he met on his trip,
all of which is to be forwarded tol He was also shown photos
of various meetings in which he participated and asked for copies of them.
will have the copies made and send them to me for forwarding to
Archer. One comment of significance was that on one of the. legs of the trip,
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15. INTELLIGENCE BRIEFING Accompanied
Ted Shackley, C/EA, to a briefing of Representative Lester Wolff (D., N. Y. )
on a question he had left with the DCI on opium traffic in the Tri-border
area. Shackley discussed the Shan State Army and the Shan United Army and
their role in open smuggling as well as the drawdown of ChiNat forces in
the area. Shackley also mentioned that we had information similar to t:he
Congressman's info on the 4 or 6 tons of opium which might be coming down
the trail. Mr. Wolff said he did not favor pre-exemption buying by the U. S.
Government and only wanted to pass the information on to the Agency as he has
done in the past. Shackley also took this occasion to deny any Agency
support to resistance groups in and around Burma. This should close out
Mr. Wolff's request by letter to OLC. Mr. Wolff said he was a supporter
of the Agency and felt that, the only solid information he gets from. the Government
on these kinds of matters is from the Agency. He felt that the current public
discussion of CIA's covert action activities was harmful to the Agency's
collection capabilities. He noted he was against police brutality in New
York, but he was not about to suggest that all the cops be fired. He had
another letter'on the Shan situation which he said he will send to the Agency
for our information.
16. LIAISON Left with Carolyn Courbois,
secretary to J. Sourwine, Chief Counsel, Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on
Internal Security, a listing of several commercially available pocket recorders.
This was in response to Sourwine's earlier request to assist him in making a
purchase for the Subcommittee. She said she would discuss the list with
Mr. Sourwine.
17. I I LIAISON Left with Frank Slatinshek,
Chief. Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, a blind memo dated
11 April 1975 prepared by John Warner, General Counsel, concerning the
historical background and authorities of congressional access to executive
information. This was in response to Slatinshek's earlier call for any background
information on the problem now being faced by the Agency with the House
Select Committee. I also left with Slatinshek a copy of Chairman Otis G. Pike's
(D., N. Y.), House Select Committee on Intelligence, letter to the President
dated 17 September in response to the President's 'request for the retu:-n of
classified information previously provided to the Committee.
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Wednesday - 17 September 1975
LIAISON Took a call from
James Michie, Investigator, and Thomas Susman, Chief Counsel,
Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Administrative Practice and Procedure,
who asked for a response to their request for information on the hospital
in Boston and Lexington, and Dr. Abramson, in connection with drug
experimentation. I said it was my understanding that this information was
history and it was being looked into by the Senate Select Committee. Further,
that the principals involved had concluded that to be the case. The Agency was
prepared to cooperate with Susman's Committee on on-going programs
going back as far as 1970, and in fact. had told Walter Sheridan, also of
that Subcommittee, that we would come down and brief him whenever he
is ready. Susman thought the understanding dealt only with the II 25X1
case and not the other questions he had asked and that the Senate Select
resolution is not an exclusive one. I said that the information he wants
dates back to the same period as the case and that I was not disagreel
with him on the Senate Select resolution I simply would like hirn to sort
out who should investigate what and in what time frame. He said he will
take that ball. and I will stand ready to come down on their call and brief
them on on-going programs by my understanding with Sheridan-
`Comment: Have since checked with John Warner, OGC, and I ,
SC /DCI, and found that we cannot use the Senate Select Committee to hide
behind our refusal to answer the Committee's requests in any time frame.
In any event, I will let the matter stand and let Susman call me back and
tell me I am.wrong. )
14.1 1 THIRD AGENCY Called Les Janka, NSC
staff, and advised ham that there was not very much we could do to assist
his efforts. He should be aware that we have provided considerable
intelligence support to Ambassador Moore in formulating the Government's
position in this matter. He said he fully understood and really did not
expect anything from CIA at this time, but, perhaps later. His main
pitch was to some of the other principals around the table. I did mention
that at some later date, should it be helpful, the Agency could provide
intelligence briefings to certain key members of Congress on. the foreign
intelligence of our unilateral action. (Mr. Janka had levied a request
upon all of the representatives who attended the LIG meeting on Friday,
12 September, for them t:) call him today with any suggestions they rr ay
have regarding the 200-Mile Fishing Legislation which was the topic ~f
the meeting. )
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Tuesday - 9 September. 1975
LIAISON At the request of
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Mr. Warner, OGC, placed a call to Thomas Susman, Chief Counsel,
Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Administrative Practice and Procedure,
to inform him that had talked to Senator Frank Church (D. , Idaho),
Chairman,Senate Select Committee, advising him that Susn:ian's Subcommittee
had requested all of the Agency's material concerning the II case and t:haf 5X1
Senator Church had requested that the Agency do nothing until he talked to
Senator Edward M. Kennedy (D. , Mass. ), Chairman, Serrate Judiciary
Subcommittee on Administrative Practice and Procedure. In the interim-11,
Mr. Warner called me to advise that Susman, had called him. and that final
arrangements had been made for the package of material to be kept at the
Agency's Watch Office for delivery this evening to Susman. should Senator Church
have talked to Senator Kennedy and cleared the material for delivery to the
Subcommittee. Susman subsequently returned my call and confirmed the
arrangements with 141arner. No call was received to deliver the material.
14. THIRD AGENCY At the request of
C /CC 7, I placed a call to Charles Gladson, General Counsel,
A. I. D. , to press him for a decision as to whether A. I. D. can declassify
the material requested by Senator Richard S. Schweiker (R. , Pa. ), including
The call was not returned.
and not involving the Agency. said he was
being pressed heavily from the office of Robert J. McCloskey, State, to give
Schweiker an answer. Gladson was not in the office and I explained. the
situation to his secretary and asked that Gladson call me as soon as possible.
Acting Legislative Counsel
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Monday - 8 September, ,1975
to a meeting with James Cline, Counsel, House Judiciary Subcommittee
on Immigration, Citizenship and International Law. His problem was
what to do with the 1, 800 Vietnamese who wanted to go back to Vietnam.
His specific interest was whether this feeling was genuine in terms of
family consideration, whether there was communist agitation in the camps
in Guam, and whether they would be shot if they did go back. I explained
the extended family concept in Vietnam and how important it is to each
Vietnamese. I said we had some reports that the communists had directed
some people to infiltrate the refugee flow for intelligence purposes and
that I did not think that the communists would shoot these people once they
returned to Vietnam, at least not right away.
LIAISON Accompanied
1g. I ILIAISON Spoke with Daphne Miller, on
the staff of the Republican Study Committee. She referred to an earlier
request for "a list of Agency documents that could be made available to
the public. " She was referring to documents released under the DOCEX
project of the Library of Congress. I told her I would send her information
on this project in the next day or so.
19. LIAISON Met with James Cline,
Counsel, House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship and
International Law, in response to his call to Mr. Cary last week inquiring
as to whether the Agency had any information concerning the allegations in
the press that former Nazis were in Interpol. I told Cline that I made pre-
liminary inquiries and we have no information to support the allegations.
I explained that the Agency has no direct relationship with Interpol as this
is principally left to the FBI. I told him that should anything develop, I
would let him know. This request had been referred tol who
had contacted several appropriate offices in the DDO.
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