VISIT OF MR. CHARLES JOYCE, JR., NSC STAFF

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• Publication Date: January 14, 1970
• Content Type: MFR

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14 January 1970
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Visit of Mr. Charles Joyce, Jr., NSC Staff
25X1A 1. On the afternoon of 13 and 14 January, I accorr anied Mr. Jo ce
on orientation tours, arranged at his request, of CRS
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2. Mr. Joyce stated at the outset that he had two purposes: first,
to see and hear something of the Agency's activities in information
processing; and second, to try to bridge the evident gap in understanding
between the Baker Panel members and the Agency. He has been exposed
to the PFIAB side of things in EOB and he is setting about to try to under-
stand the community better in the hope that ultimately, perhaps, differences
can be narrowed or resolved.
3. Mr. Joyce was treated to an excellent series of discussions. He
was obviously very favorably impressed by the people to whom he was
exposed and their efforts. Joyce, himself, showed a good grasp of
systems and technology, and- a fair knowledge of intelligence organizations
and processes. He asked searching questions and clearly absorbed most
of what he saw and heard. He was urged to return for more detailed
discussions at every stop and there is good reason to believe he will do so.
He looked on the visit as a first step in the process of getting acquainted.
4. The Agency's attitude toward community efforts in the ADP field,
and particularly COINS, was put forth to Joyce on several occasions, most
notably in a brief talk with Colonel White who underscored the point that
CIA will strive to do what is meaningful and clearly in line with needs
insofar as resource constraints will allow. Joyce himself seems to have
an open mind in these matters although he does give some weight to the
proposition that needs might not always be fully understood. and that the
creation of a system tends to generate the need for it. Interestingly enough,
5. Joyce' told me that he was disappointed that it had been decided
beforehand that the, PFIAB-sponsored seminar on 8 January would not get
into the question of community organization. He hopes to look into.this..
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 6. Mr. Joyce also said he would like to have an opportunity to discuss
in some detail with someone or some group of people in the Agency the
point-by-point responses to PFIAB's recommendations which were forwarded
in the Director's reply of 1 December 1969 to Mr. Kissinger. This is in
line with Joyce's desire to close what he sees as a communications gap
between PFIAB's views and those of the Agency. I said we would welcome
an opportunity to discuss these points and would be glad to arrange for this
at his convenience.
7. I believe Mr. Joyce is worth cultivating. He could be a help to us
in our efforts to make sense out of the community's information handling
problems. This is his area of responsibility on the NSC staff and it could
serve us well for the Agency to have his confidence and backing.
8. Mr. Joyce, whose background and experience is in systems design,
is engaged in studying new systems for the White House situation room.
OCS is currently working with him on some aspects of this, and I think it
important that we keep track of his thinking on the project, so that we can
keep our oar in.
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Chief, Information Processing Staff
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After you have had a chance to read
FR (PPB 70-0100) on the visits of Mr.
Joyce of the NSC Staff, copies of which have been
distributed to each IP Board member, I would
appreciate learning more about Agency plans, if
any, for I (paragraph 4) and the
White House situation room changes (paragraph 8)
since a significance to us, especially OC, would
seem very likely. 25X1A
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