DEAR MR. BAIRD:

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• Document Creation Date: December 9, 2016
• Document Release Date: April 17, 2001
• Sequence Number: 80
• Publication Date: May 28, 1964
• Content Type: LETTER

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DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE SCHOOL
MAIN NAVY BUILDING
WASHINGTON, D. C.- 20305
Mr. Matthew Baird
Director of Training
Central Intelligence Agency
Washington, D. C.
Dear Mr. Baird:
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Members of my staff who participated in Project reported to me
that the two days spent at your Langley Headquarters were most enjoy-
able and highly educational. They were impressed with the caliber of
the speakers and the frankness in which they handled their subjects
and answered questions.
This program was extremely profitable and we sincerely hope that the
Defense Intelligence School will be afforded the opportunity to
participate in future classes. Also, we are very appreciative of
efforts in making it possible for us to exceed the
established attendance quota. At this particular time our scheduling
permitted us to take full advantage of these additional quotas that
he obtained for the School.
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of the agency and our relationship with it in the terms of cooperation,
coordination, and integration of our mutual training efforts.
Sincerely yours,
,E16447
Captain, SN
Commandant
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Comments on Project by Yaj Gen. J. T. Kingsley, Jr.,
Special Assistant for Military e'tas stance Affairs, The Joint Staff
In response to a query wbether the increased knowledge of CLA
gained in would facilitate his working with CIA, Gen. Kingisey
stated that he felt very definitely yes". He said that gaining an under-
standing of the breakdown of the Agency and knowing what component
carried out particular functions woulti be of considerable assistanze in
Mating with his staff in the Pentasoe. He *leo said that knowing to
whom requests go will enable him to better understand the result
received.
When asked if he now had btter appreciation of CIA4. require-
ments for operational sv.pport :_rore the Department of Defense, G,!..n.
Kingsley stated that he now her a :ruch clearer understanding of the
Agency's need for DOD gupport. As said that the increased knowledge
of the Agency to him made the Agency a real headquarters and not just
a building "over there in Langley
Gen. Kingsley s that in his ray.to.may work he would am;
2 X1A2g that Project would serve him in his duties. He explained
this by stating that he now hi better informed and will be able to direct
his staff more explicitly in any costimunications that they may have
with CIA.
Gen. Kingsley. when asked If there were any organisations or
functions which the briefing had not coffered in sufficient detail,
suggested that we might have teerl more clear in explaining what
the component "plans for". He st.ggested that in a functional brie I.
we attempt to give one c,r two cerzrete examples, either actual or
fictional. He suggested fiat we could take approximately two-thirth.
of the time to give the funictional briefing and use the remaining one-
third for example* of one type or another.
When asked for suggestions 03 irrprove the CIA briefing,
Kingsley suggested the
a. Mixing of Flag an.1 ,:trioral rank officers with the field
grades inhibits questions.
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b. He felt that brlefini of General and Flag rank officer;
as a group would likely Wing about a freer exchange of questions .
c. He ausgestet a possible tailored to the -las
and General rank officers' jobs. He said he realized that it *mit
be very difilcult to get a group conposed of only Geeeral officer.
Gen. Kinesley concluden ty stating that he was interested more
in the field setup. He wris intcrea too in knowing more about the
position of the military man in supporting the Agency in the field.
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helpful in any future WAAG work which he might undertake, and adde4i
that a description of a typical 'Job: station without necessarily ide
ntiiyin
an area would be a useful sedition.
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Comments on t'ro
S&T Intelligence Office
t. Colne
stated tb.t the *Ingle most valuable part of
was the opportunity to toe and hear ClA's top-level people, an
some instances (in the breaks) to get to meat with them. He felt
that the overview given et the Olgsrcy wee invaluable for senior I ft,
personnel.
He felt that up -level DIA personnel (at the Lt. O1. ancl
level) should have the benefit of ails type of briefing.
He stated that the violent a the program was quite adequate for
Ide needs and that a two-day program was the proper length. He
felt that a longer program wouid place an undue burden an the attendi
officers.
H. stated that the aarrtinistration of the program was aU that
could be asked for and the officer's personal needs were taken care
of.
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Comments on Project b) Sear Adm. L. A. ryi
Deputy Director for Lctgintics. The :eine Staff
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Adm. Bryan stated that Project== had given him a better
picture of the Agency and a bode, luidorstanding of the complexity of
the problems facing Cit. The .sktrniral stated that Project 25X1A2g
was of particular interest and ia:-.portance to him in view of his upcon-sin
assignment to
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The Admiral said that :Froject had given him a much
clearer understanding of haw '11A would be able to support him opera-
tionally. He said that he will now be better able to call upon the Agency
for assistance when needed. ]le again emphasized the importance of
this to him in his assignment to 25X1A6a
When askec if had given him a better appreciation of
CIA's requirements for o?erational support from the MD, the _Admire I
said to a certain extent "yes". He added that he was not too clear as
to the support needed by CIA in this area from DIA. However, it is
clear to him the type of sepport needed by the Agency from the UN,
USA, and the USAF. Arlre..r yen stated that he definitely would make
use of what he has learned d4r ins the neat six months mad referred
back to his impending assignment to
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When askec if there were any pima*. of CIA organization or
functions which were not cOlfereCt in sufficient detail, Aden. Pry-an
stated that he felt the DIXIAcT coverage was riot completely clear to
him. He felt that the briefing on CDS1sT contained too many abbrevia-
tions and was not quite down to the Leyman's level.
Adm. Bryan. suggesting iniprovervents to the CIA briefing, irkt:icattl.,
that in some Canes it was too generalised. He suggested that wherever
possible examples be seised. Me Jotted that it was obvious to him that
security or operational need* 3r *chided the use of a groat man
examples, but felt that even a. few, although perhaps necessarily
fictitious, would be a definite improvement. To this Adm. Etrys.n
added that it n:ight be worthwhile to consider moving the class crew
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suggested this raeve to
place in order that studs*
dispel the impression that
a visit would also give tbm!
tbAtn into the fold, so to r,
Aild , if oMy for a half k He
visit to the Library, or (b) some ot1-ter
co not fitei Tspenissu Us", and it would
we vivre holding out. He suggested that
ti.tudolti.. the feeling that we were taking
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Adm. Bryan concluded by statiss that a PjeCt for
Flag officers only would prcibe.bly promote greater class participatioi,.
He said that he WM El aware .0 tht- fikzt that it would Le difficult to ovsemble
a large clasp of Flag or (3* e rat oUicers.
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Strategic Intelligamme Appartsemt, Defames Matelligemae
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it ahead be a oars* fer stator officers; that
Camainierst or better, loat foes Oat in the Mal onalysie
individual amid be toes criteria for aarolineat.
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mate showed water diepth them vao taige of wet oother presentaticain.
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agrees that for the nos% port Vert? was adopashe ooteropt of the subject.
wad Iwo Mod mare co the MUM of the Agemats traising ofrort -
thin primarily beamise tot is in traisdag himself. Ho felt that the SW
presagatiog is. limited Us) wok to armaiestias and he read have Ligoi
to haws heard more co the ituictdonal efforts of Mt.
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point the protease of ClA IlLeisce officals sesoelated eith the military
down tbriatab West ehberaillete comagends so tlat ~riot personnel VCiack
Writ sew guide es to where the, aifila go for memistenee.
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it vas ezeoUsat eel semetking tlat ahould be enetimad 1k etulted that
the observation of the five DIA ofrieers were reported to the Commendent,
Mir who in tatfli in correapcndosoe to the Director of Traladag stated that
he hoped the program walla' be aontivateg snit ma persamand weld be inaludo.,
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25X1 A2g Go *rite on Project ti Captain J. S. Elkins, USN. National.
Military Command Gael 'Chief, JCS
Respondent indicated that he lid net find the questionns.ire distri-
buted at the end of the tour** preoer. He was reluctant to have to grade
individuals of the stature of the DM: IMO the DCI? He also Indicated
that in order to do a proper IGO, II-10ra time end thought was neceeserie
than permitted to catriilete the etkitaaaCIRD1113141. He suggested that the
grading of individual speakers be eliminated, that the questions Le
broadened, and that the shidarts be permitted to take thorn to their
offices for ccrraeletion anst rnseil thein hack to the Agency.
Regarding e overali cur ruiurn, the respondent indicated that he
thought the first day, although at iret glante appearing to be dry and
dull was better than the leccrie cay. He indicated that certain stair
chiefs tended to talk around thei 'abject and assumed a body of know-
ledge which %vat not poseesset- by ihi average student. Recognizing
the need for security arid corntlartrnintatiort, the respondent indiratee
that specific examples, h-ypothetiimil or blown operations, could welt be
used to be more specific. R.e p3Tvicr t indicated that the only thing lackirt
in the schedule which he woult hare liked to have seen included was
something on warti:ve role. perticularly its relationship to the
Respondent eaid that he would have appreciated having the group
taken anywhere in the Ireileing. Thi e would have broken up the n:onotoni
and as he put rt. "just to sheer therm -.hat there is nothing to see",
said that the stvderits felt that the, were restricted anci confined.
Regarding the gratis end rank oi participants, the respondent Inciicatec
that he thought the course shcelle OA open to Lieutenant Colonels -
C,omrn.anders, i?ut priorities shook! be given to Colonels - Captains aTIC,
higher, thcludir. eneral offier3.
Respondent was very o prt saying that attendance in the cOlinie
had increased his knowlesiffe of would faeilitate his working with
the Agency. Specifically, he stated the fact that on his team, as all tea..iis
in the NM CC, there is a :IA representative and this will certainly give
him a better knowletiee oi CIA's capability in supporting the NleC.0 effort.
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was very entbusiastc about havin as many members or
the NIviCC teams as possible at+ent Protect in the future-) 25X1A2g
Respondent tale_ that he Vieliffq Project as a necessary 25X1A2g
part of all NMCC C1140141 orientation before assuming their duties.
Respondent also thought that it wcolid be appropriate to have each of
the team division duty officers (Gfenerai and Flag rank) attend the two-
day briefing.
Respondent expressed his grit hide for being able to get an oppor-
tunity to hear deputy director* env statif chiefs. He indicated that shig
first-hand information was necessary, regardless of the eloquence of
the speakers. Respondent felt that ell speakers were as forthright as
they could be considering the wide ,nitrety of backgrounds and clearances,'
of the student participantu?
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DIA Seeretariat
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of correspondence- tsau the AoPerey &soling with a
a result odilliiillall of this mom become* medh more
him, especially the moose that appmer ea the eorresponienee
elongate neetimed therein. Me mistimed having just received &d
meet in thieh WM appeared, and via heardJim
on the /00,na, thellatter at hand bemuse much more meanvat
to Ida.
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organised he is
correspondence.
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appreciation of CIA's
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result at' kneed"; hear the Agency
wition to more specifically direct
tice, "Do
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I*ty put what he has learned in 25X1 A2g
in the next led that it would outataly
the handling of orrespondence on t day-to-dier basis.
With reference to igeeific Quverese, Ciptain Quinn fSlt that all
presentations provided a twoa cowrtge, recognising 'that the presen.
tedious tgrAh.. Males ana by their very nature to be
lted. Re utead have liked -to Love had emcee definitive presehtat
Me suigmatc az pow-4bl? oddities* to the schedule a tour of the
Machine Resarle and Meaccde ratemistion Snits end en exhibit of the
of intelligence produced vithin Un Agency. Also be suggeete just a ven,
several tour of the grovel; floor ti. the building so that the visitorz to
not have the feeling that they lux, heiig shouted tram 3t
entrance to the classroom and beet. Ootes I thought he gis15X1A9a
it emit* clear that the bodges iscned did permit then to row skeywhere :2
the firet_floor with the tnycurlitel ell highly classified areas behindbszTiers1 tho
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thet the endience should, be a neeSte
and isp. MA felt that the most ontirtanding thing o
fact vhich flattered him veryiswai use peeing and hearinc men
Of the Ageseccf1z. eannot every j_etitence.
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