MEETING WITH WILLIAM G. MILLER IN HIS OFFICE ON 28 FEBRUARY 1975

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• Document Creation Date: December 19, 2016
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• Publication Date: March 3, 1975
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Meeting with)William G. Miller in his Office
on 28 February 1975
1, and myself met with William. Miller in
Senator urc s o ice as a follow-on to the discussions held
between Senator Church and the Director 27 February. The
meeting was held to discuss the preliminary planning which
Mr. Miller has under way with respect to various procedures
for the Select Committee's inquiries. 'Mr. Miller was given, per
his request, a copy of the drafts of a paper on CIA legislative
history classified Secret. It was explained that the classification
grew out of third agencies' inclusions but that generally the paper
was unclassified and the substance of it contained in public records.
2. The undersigned reviewed with Mr. Miller the range of
Annexes the Director had mentioned to Senator Church and went
over their content in some detail. We specifically asked Miller
when he would be ready to receive Secret level information of
this kind. Miller stated that he should be ready the latter part
of next week and that he would appreciate receiving a set of Annexes
at that time. These Annexes were also discussed in terms of
Mr. Schwarz's arrival -- Schwarz to be the Counsel for the
Committee.
3. I then reviewed a very preliminary draft of an Agency
notice which Miller found "very forthcoming and straightforward. "
He asked only that it be made more specific that Agency employees
need not be inhibited by the secrecy agreement with the Agency in
their communications with the Committee. I advised that the ideal
would be to develop an employee notice which would satisfy House
needs also and apply as a format for other Community agencies
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using Secrecy Agreements. I inquired whether we could work out
with Mr. Schwarz an appropriate statement for the Committee to
use with U. S. Intelligence Agencies' employees prior tq testimony
in advising them of their Constitutional right. Miller was amenable
.to working out an appropriate statement. He also indicated we could
discuss the Secrecy Agreement format with Schwarz. He observed
that for the most part he anticipated that testimony would be taken
informally and not under oath and would be more fact-finding in
nature. He noted that at the outset there would be a lot to learn
in order that the Committee Staff have a better understanding of
where to focus specific inquiry and opined that the Annexes would
be a very useful start.
4. I asked how he planned to organize to do the job. He
responded that the Committee members had various interests and
that it would be the plan of the Staff Director to divide the overview
in terms of particular Committee member interests -forming sub-
groups of inquiry. He noted that the Committee would want to look
into clandestine operations not for the particulars of an operation
but rather to acquire an understanding of the patterns of clandestine
activities, the types of operations 'and the nature of such operations
as they relate to the rights of individuals in this country and abroad.
He observed that in the case of allegations with respect to domestic
operations the Committee and particularly Senator Baker would want
to have fairly full disclosure and be somewhat more specific. He
agreed that names and incidentals important to security should be
able to be masked if done in such a way so as to avoid disfiguring
the pattern of activity, its purposes and value. He generally agreed
with the approach the Director had addressed in his meeting with
Senator Church and indicated that in the course of the next week or
so he would like to consult with us on how this sanitization can work
in a constructive way.
5. I noted that the "Q" clearance arrangement described by
Senator Church should clear the way for providing selective staff
members with compartmented clearances on a need-to-know basis.
We would need from Miller clarification as to which if any Committee
staff would have a need-to-know of these compartmented matters.
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Miller understood the importance of holding down staff access
to certain technical operations and stated that he would address this
subject as the investigation unfolds. He observed ,that he hoped that
his staff could talk with as many officers in the Community as time
permits so as to gain a clear picture of what people are doing, how
they approach their job, and degrees of supervision and responsive-
ness to policy directions. He reiterated that formal testimony to Corn-
mittee Staff would probably be restricted to possible or suspected
violations of the law.
6. I showed Miller a paper prepared on CIA history which
contained five organization charts from 1947 to the present. I asked
whether this. would suffice in meeting the Senator's request. He felt
it would help but considered it only as a partial answer. He reiterated
the Committee's desire to have annual organization charts with a
breakdown of personnel names by branch. I emphasized that he
could get an adequate histgrical perspective by the provision of names,
say, at the Division level and stated that we would begin to respond to
his request that way--noting that it would be extremely difficult to
recapture the details of branch level assignments. He generally
acceded to this incremental approach but did not withdraw the general
requirement although admitting that perhaps he might find the Branch
level information not too valuable as the investigation unfolds. He
reiterated the need for comprehensive treatment as a principle.
. 7. I asked for some clarification on rrcash flowv" as the Senator
had used. the term in coversations with the Director. He said that
basically, as concerns CIA, he was interested in the disposition of
funds in such areas as proprietaries where allegations had been made
with respect to "avoidance of the appropriations process. " He noted
the Director's certification authority and observed that examination
of unvouchered funds could be part of a. cash flow'study from 1947
to present. He noted CIA received moneys from other intelligence
agencies which added to the certifications of the Director. He ob-
served that the requirement for the specifics of these things would
probably not be immediate and down the road some but that we should
be on notice to do the necessary pulling together now.
8. I offered to give him and his staff--when appropriate--
briefings on the budget of CIA and the Intelligence Community as
suggested by the Director. Miller felt this should be very helpful,
but was noncommittal.
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9. It was agreed that we would meet again Tuesday, 4 March,
or shortly thereafter, in order to introduce Mr. Warner and Mr.
Schwarz and to specifically focus on the employee notice, possibly
secrecy agreements, and other procedural and/ox~ legal"ssues.. We
will also attempt to deliver to him at that time the Secret-level
Annexes.
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Meeting with William G. Miller in his Office
on 28 February 1975
Distribution:
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Attached is the corrected M.O.H.
The copy provided earlier had not been
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ment Committee Meeting. It should be
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