PHOTOGRAPHIC QUALITY NECESSARY FOR TANK IDENTIFICATION

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February 20, 1962
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1 .4 .?selL:"..."-'.. ir?a. Declassified in Part- Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014101107. CIA-RDP781305707A000300080003-1 o.. i o 1 ? ? ..-.. mer ? a r . ',b. ......?dr- 20 if:a& es aa. 1,11 L / TO: ROOM STAT SrSued. ? REMARKS: rL eats-me 44. 4 Ii44 ass- o ke?-?.--_ Ott 1 lit :Nrbt, 64).4 sea., . tts. *ace NSire r-td. Wqm, _A STAT 6 cl 447r 44, LSTAT-. ((I 74 50 MA FROM: ROOM NO. SCLI BUILDING A *Arc 4.4c Declassified in Part - San tized Copy Approved for Release 20 4/01/07 CIA RDP781305707A000300080003-1 s USED. 50X1 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP78805707A000300080003-1 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP78805707A000300080003-1 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP78605707A000300080003-1 CHAiWELS ONLY SCS-11293/62-EH 20 February 1962 C 0/- a- MEMORANDUM FORt Director, NM SUBJECT: Photographic Quality Necessary for Tank IdentificatIon o? 1. On Friday, 16 February,hpresentatives of the Office of National Estnatee and of(ArnifIntelligencebriefedDro Jerome Wiesner, Scientific Adviser ta7ihe loreslEe'lfit, on our estimates of Soviet tank production and tank inventeries. The briefing, prepared at Dr. Wiesnorls request, was designed to review our current estimates, the evidence and analysis underlying them, and our degree of confidence in their accuracy. The discussion ineluded both the modern types of Soviet tanks (e.g. T4541 1.100 fl-?6) and older types (e.g. T..34, JS-3), in the hands of Soviet forces and other countries. 2. During the course of the briefing, the point was made that aerial photography could sometimes reveal the presence of tanks at factories and tank parks, but often was not sufficient to detect tanks and usually was not sufficient to identify the type of tank. Dr. Wiesner asked what photographic resolution was thought to be necessary. We could not answer specifically, but pointed out that resolution was not the only factor involved and promised to get an answer. 3. It is, therefore, requested that you provide us with a brief memorandum responding to the following questions: (a) What resolution and quality of photography are believed necessary to identity an object of the size and general configuration of a Soviet tank? onitiortPir (b) What resolution az d qtalitykere believed necessary to distinguish tanks from other objects or vehicles of similar size and configuration?. d. lttA46 at (c) What resolution andonotography are believed necessary to distinguish one type of tank from another? (d) By What means and ten are these resolutions and qualities believed achievable? eS717.11i7..71.7 77.:1 717 IrTA TALTI:IT Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP78605707A000300080003-1 o Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP7813g70000300018101-00 TCS-11293/62-KH 44. The memorandum should be addressed to Assistant Director, National Estimatee, Attention Mr. Ststertz. '.0 will be forwarded under 0* our cover note to W. Wiesner. If possible, we wish toreply to Dr. Wiesner no later than COB Monde, 26 February, 5. This request has been coordinated informally with Col. Sanders of Army Intelligente, DISTRIBUTIONs Orig. and lt Copy 31 90PY Copy Copya Director, EPIC I ' Army, Attn: Col. Sanders ONE Plle (5028) Extras SECT HOWARD STOERT2 JR. 9/NE Staff 50X1 HITTME 7 ."'.77 ITT KLY:CLE C7Li-LALS 0 7:1: 50X1 ? 2 ? Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP78605707A000300080003-1 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy App CIA-RDP781305707A000300080003-1 Liviv11/111UU19 F Un oved for Release 2014/01/07 : ? d*-0 .2f 00 frievt k^ ?kPbS STAT STAT Declassified in Part- Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: ICIA-RDP781305707A000300080003-1 I 0? 101 (DATE) 1471 , Declassified in Part- Sanitized Copy Approved knkelease_S014/01207; CIA-RDP781305707A000300080003-1 km, at' V 1'14,1 re' r?A ke &bit Declassified in Part- Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP781305707A000300080003-1 tsiArk Declassified inPart - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP78805707A000300080003-1 WORISIPILA tfArttc at' I DRAFT 23 February 1962 Photographic resolution is dependent on several factors, i.e., object contrast, photographic lens and film used, the dynamics of the system, that is system vibration, shutter speed and efficiency, image motion control and correct exposure. Of course, proper film processing is vital. Ground resolution is dependent upon Photographic Resolution, the focal length of the camera, and the altitude of the camera system. Quality of photography is certainly subjective and would depend upon a standard being arrived at. What is high quality today might be average tomorrow. The questions asked are very vague since po figures are attached. 50X1 TRIOS A state-of-the-art camera system exists that will give 85-90 lines/mm for low contrast target (2:1 brightness ratio which is Standard) in a dynamic environment. This gives a ground resolution, when used at 50,000 feet altitude, on the order of one foot. From AFM 200-50, Photographic Interpretation Handbook, 1953, a scale of 1:2000, with the quality of photography performed then, is necessary to determine the difference between a 24 and 4 ton truck. The quality of photography in terms of resolution available now is four to five times better than in 1953. Therefore, a minimum scale of 1:8000 is required to do the same thing. With the above in mind the photography would have to be enlarged. The current quality of the negative material will easily support an enlargement of 20X giving a scale of approximately 1:1000. Photo interpreters indicate that Soviet tanks are primarily identified by the size and position of the turret. Average tank size is 10 xare feet and 1 ? 7:3.2.1.05ZNING PAgFil SECRET Declassified M Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP78805707A000300080003-1 9,111% talk Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP78805707A000300080003-1 tinaLIM. WORKING PAPER turrets, pear shaped, are approximately 2i to 3 feet across the "bulb" of the pear. Fairly precise measurements could be made of the image of the vehicle. The requirements can be presently met by both resolution and quality with an existing camera system. ?SECTIET woratNG ?JAM Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP78805707A000300080003-1 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07 : CIA-RDP78605707A000300080003-1 aa___ Cal B-35.?SCALES 30-245/NAVAER Common representative Ira/thins 2,500 10.000 31 180 80.000 W Figure Inches per mile 61000 @QV 01 is 00 ttea 8110 aeo moo tato omo GOB B-36.? MINIMUM 10-35-610/AFM MILE COMMON Centimeters pefkiliThreter 80 AND 200-50 CENTIMETERS 03 Olt COM Ilion representative Inactions W 150.00001 01 250,000_ 1/ 253,440_ 300,000 400,000__ UI 01 01 Ill 01 01 500,000__ 506.880_ 600,000__ 7. , 1,000,000_ 1,013;760_ WM, 1X13 cattet) designed aCe(n) Caffignellie photo mission one It Omuta twal anze 10thn =Sp Wawa co cam= (MEG They is being that INTERPRETATION acceptable photographic AND Appendix B Tables and Graphs KILOMETER Inches per ndle Cit Geld inlet e I's kilometer IDENTIFICATION. 21) eel? mom engem) lb awwws0 These minimum scales are the educated con iusions of NIL IOUS Wilallibacwwwwith fif the opinions or experience of will, however, serve as a guide to the minim11111 scales at. which object-itnages can to which an aerial photo is exposed falibenslan qualified I'll lie identified and analyzed. caeca ?dub einiev waBlu variables in atmospheric conditions and quality photography mount vibration, aim edge compensation, establishes scales req represents scales necessary f lir2l,Throin 11-50 s, etc planning operations cl are the minimum scales for camera ( ?Minn 11 glib Woofiementas Itiannetfie eamm0as currently gradient produced. Improvements of gamin dam to alter factors these pan ?I [Cr 06 wauw, as dams, mu& WI* re( oreeo on of an object. class e. g., motor vehicle, multi-engine aircraft,. detaile anal?sis of specific objec_ts within an objiLct class (e.g.. to distinguish 2c-,or rt ale- ,o1 11 arc=FM=1-forWif ed photograph specific installations for dotal ed norinal intelligence requirements. is indicated as extremely If photography Clattemb 'Transportation___ gi or continuous-strip photography Breakdown rucks Othittrargamtgame wow wIttto technical analysis. t ho All scales refer to vertical stereo photo coverage. OBliM200101b Coni =Dam op tam pe r421 pretation; e. leum,ealinninum, etc. (AL217M1)_ _ _ _ _ _ - - (Petroleum aja efj=9 plants 1/6,000 for technical analysis.) Industries which do en lend 036:211 iron and steel, interpretation; inentronics, etc. Coastal delouses guns._ Heavy LIght, AA Searchlight Mr vehicles lb almmte (WM> ball-bearing Xmimplmi.A.p=oarirroMmAp.m Rail (to include streercar)_ _ Road_ (R=ble Goa S given from aerial photography. Inland waterways Bridges 100')_-- conditions eal1110 1123101012m231119S, Minimum scale idefitific7ition 1/30,000,, 1/15,000 1/10 000 1/20,000 1/15,000_ 1 /10,000_ 1 10.000._ I/10.000_. 1:1,0 1/3b,-000. ,0 1/30,000__ scale technical analis LO'? 1 12,000 1 '8.000 1 6.000 low-level tinuous strip. WS amp SSE I 3,000. low-level oblique. 1/5,000 low-level 1/2,000 low-level oblique. 1/2,000 low-level oblique. zoog. 1/8,000. Immo. 1 10.000 1 10,000 oblique al) Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP78605707A000300080003-1 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP78805707A000300080003-1 Ara' Appendix B tables and Graphs ral B-36.?MINIMUM 30-245/NAVAER FOR 10-35-610/AFM INTERPRETATION 200-50 IDENTIFICATION.?Continued. 02augli awAirear Minimum. Scale identification 11 Alinimum scale technical atalysis Sewage___ Water purification. ______ Gas plants ..... _ _ anaara Municipal?thermal power plant (typical)._ tlrei=1 power Plant (qpical)_ 1/20,000._ I /20,000._ 1/20,000_ 1/30,000_ _ 1/15:000_ 1/10,000 1/10,000 1/87000 1/110000 1/87000 I /6,000 Central he plant (typical) Itraroclectric pout; plant. 1/107000 ?traCTO__ 1/57060 Terrain Major land forms_ r Aa 1/207000 aralaAaaaaaaaaaaarAi -form limit _ _ Minor laurel? o a a a.a.a ariS 1/20,001L.. 1/_8-,090 Vegetation (Scales given are applicable to Optilinlin az> son only.) 1/2(00(1. 08,000 low-level tinuous-strip Shipping NavM-ssels-1313, 011 1137 ealb largeraan DD). alf-aril minor combatant 105,000- 012:000 1/7,000 Merchant55 anarana--] vessels: 1/25,000_ 1/000 low-level oblique. Units above 200' aapa.a.aaa.M.Al 1/25,000_ _ 1/12,000 Units below 200' _ _ 1/5:000 Shipping facilities Ports. 1/25:000. _ 1/12-000 Docking facilities (piers, wharves, etc.)..._ -41 1/20,000__ 1/8,000 3.777s (cranes, l?har(.trackage, et.c.)- 1/12,000_ 1/6,000 Electronics Radar: 1/5,000 Fixed _ 1/12,000... MbiIe ac?ZA aaaa 4 _ 05 000 0 Fire control__ 1/000._ _ 1/2,000 Communications: Lattice masts_ . 1/15,000_ -.. 1/6,000 Stick 1/10,000._ I /4 000 Open adeock a OCALA a? a 1/18,000_ 1/11,000 Portable or liii usual types__ _ _ Ap}ara 1/87000____ 1/3-000 Navigationsaids... 1/187400._ 0117100 Major (With facilities GE10 ilia landing Nc7Iiinit_ area). 1/10,000 Auxiliary landing area?no facili 1/30,000._ ties). 1/10,000 Auxiliary (unsurfaced landing area?no facili-I /.I0,000__ ties). 1/10,000 Al Wing span: Under 40 ft I/10,001k._ 1/2,000 40 to 60 ft 1/12,000__ 1/3,000 60 to 10-0:ft A A 'AAA -ea a a a a Ana a a a...a 015,000_ 1M,000 100 feet 1/20,001k- - 1/5,000 I er onn Personnel y tit-known 1/5,000 comparative cover sentialtevel oblique. Continuous-strip(along travel routes including t_ Individual personnel aala aqba Structural analysis a a ar a eZer?Zwaso 1/12,500 1/1,000 low-level (Alive tinuous-strip, 1.11-117sis I/12,500__ astgation charts) 1/60,000 Verticall(fW4Fiiig) 1/40,000._ A a a a r Supplemental (fOrnir cao (=Dap I/20,000__ 3 ED Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP78805707A000300080003-1 Declassified jznvl in Part - Sanitized CopyApproved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP78B05707A000300080003-1 INNORANDUM PORI Direetor, IFIO 2122-22193/6s4, 10 February 1962 -60 '104D \kMM4 4-4 pi c SMUT. Photegraphie Quality Meseery for IS Identifiestiom Wee) ? 24 Cm Friday& 16 February* representatives of tr. Win at National bet mates and atcarey Intelligeneiihriefed Dr. Jerome Wegner& Scientifis Adviser te tin litideste en ear estimates et Nevis% tank predilection and teak insteriee. The briefing, prepaid at Dr. Wleaseris request& was deeigeed to review oar sorrow% estimates, the evidence and aselysie underlying them& ad emr degree of confides in their suracy. The discussion ineluded both the modern types of Soviet tanks (e.g. ?-54. 1-10, PT-711) ad Older types (e.g. 2..3%, .11?)), in the hands of Soviet fors end ether gauntries. I. ?urine the course of the briefing& the point nes made that aerial photn-raphy co-.d sometimes reveal the press of tanks at factories ard tank parks& but often was not Inefficient to detect tanks and us ly was not sufficient to identify the type of tank. Dr. Wiesner asked Meat photographic resolution as thought to be neoessary. We mild not anewer esifieelly& but pointed out that resolution was not the only faster involved and to got an sewer. AO"t is, therefore& requested that yes provide us with a memorandum responding to the following (poetise (a) What resolution and quality of Tplatiograplay are believed nevessamry to identify an object of the ads al general confireration of a Soviet teal 1 PI chi "A I (b) What resolution ard quality/Imre believed neesery two distinguish tanks from other otleeta or Sidles if similar site and configuration/ , 984../fy etc (o) What resolution andmphotegraphy are believed neeess.ry to distinguish one "type of tank true another/ (d) Sy what nes and ten are these solstices ad satin believed achievable/ I Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP78B05707A000300080003-1 ob 7LITDLE VIA TALENT JO ? ;14)i J. Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP78B05707A000300080003-1 ; OEL Y TES-11293/66411 he The menrandas should be addressed to Assistant Ihrestar. National Intimates, Attention NW. Steerts. It will be fmrsardmi ISM our one note to NW. Wiesner. If possible. we Irish to regty 60 Dr. Wismar no later then 001 Mondays 26 February. ? O. This request has bees oeordinated informally with Oale Sanders of Army Intelligens. DISTRIBUTION s Orig. and 11 teir, 12449- In Antis as. Sanders ?P7 Si on File (5028) ,047. 6,788 Extras IQ NOWA= STO,A1171. 0/M1 Matt ? 4 ? 50X1 50X1 ctr*,,% ,2"1 li;DLE VIA TALENT- - ,,o? la.," ? Ll..? ? h?Vet;. ? IHOLE Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07 : CIA-RDP78B65707A000S66080003-1 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP781305707A000300080003-1 ? tedil44,60.: ave IL, Se a- 3 2nat4,.4( ? p aVe 12 44,-Lt1-&-40 al et: .4 4 e erres.44 - 0 - Ai ? CIA - Ti D - 11/0 Tr t DS ? eer 4 I )r y(v 2 STAT Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2014/01/07: CIA-RDP78605707A000300080003-1