INTERVIEW AT CENSUS BUREAU

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP79-01153A000100080017-5
• Release Decision: RIPPUB
• Original Classification: S
• Document Page Count: 2
• Document Creation Date: December 9, 2016
• Document Release Date: July 18, 2000
• Sequence Number: 17
• Publication Date: June 6, 1966
• Content Type: MFR

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6 June 1966
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT; interview at Census Bureau
1. This afternoon, Mr. Bramwell and T met at 2200 p.m. with
Paul Meyer, Chief of the Foreign Demographic Analysis Division,
Bureau of the Census, and an hour later with Dr. Conrad F. Taeuber,
Assistant Director for Demographic Fields, Bureau of the Census, to
discuss reallocation of HEW"s ISIS production responsibilities.
2. Mr. Bramwell outlined the problem in both interviews,
explaining that the passage of the International Education Bill
in Congress seemed to be jeopardized by the CIA contract with HEW,
and Secretary Gardner was terminating the contract 3O June, with
the provision that Mr. Kain's unit could remain in HEW for 90 days
while other arrangements were being made. Various alternate
producers, such as CIA, State, DIA, and Labor, had been considered,
3. CIA was not appropriate because HEW personnel wished to
retain their Civil Service status and three of them are past the
CIA retirement age. Also, some of the HEW personnel probably do
not want to work for CIA> Under Secretary Ball and Tom Hughes had
ruled against State assuming the responsibility. Sociological in-
telligence, although regarded as essential by most military users,
was thought to be not within the primary interests o1? DIA; and
Census was preferred to Labor because the production of sociological
information seemed more clearly related to the service mission of
Census.
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~+. Mr. Meyer, in both interviews, pointed out that the GS-15
an the HEW T~0 would be embarrassing to Meyer's Division because
he (Meyer) was only a GS-lg and, as he pointed out to Dr. Taeuber,
there was no prospect of Meyer"s becoming a 16.
The third difficulty was space
limitations; Meyex's present staff of 55 has been crowded to where
two people must work in a fairly large room (the size we have four
people in). The fourth difficulty was that HEW personnel might bring
with them some special arrangements fox' accrued leave tah ieh must be
paid fox.
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5. Dr, Taeubear seemed to take a more favorable view of accepting
HEW's production responsibilities than did Mr. Meyer, and offered
some rebuttal to Mr. Meyer's objections. Dr. Taeuber retained the
data we had (two memos which explained budget, production data, and
T~0) and said that he would consult with the Bureau of the Census
administrative people tomorrow and meet on it with the Director of
the Bureau of the. Census on Wednesday.
Deputy Director of Basic Intelligence
cc: Ex.Dir.-Comptroller
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