JOURNAL OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP80-00941A000700020018-8
• Release Decision: RIPPUB
• Original Classification: S
• Document Page Count: 6
• Document Creation Date: December 19, 2016
• Document Release Date: November 21, 2006
• Sequence Number: 18
• Publication Date: September 7, 1978
• Content Type: NOTES

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1. I IPLC) LIAISON Attended a meeting at the
White House convened by Margaret McKenna, Deputy Counsel to the
President, to discuss the Dresser case. In view of the
President's decision to grant Dresser an export license, agencies
and departments were released to cooperate with the Senate
Governmental Affairs Subcommittee on Permanent Investigations
in their investigation of the case. (See Memorandum For the 25X1
Record.)
2. JMS) LIAISON At the request of
I called Peter Sullivan, on the staff of the Senate Governmental 25x1
Affairs Subcommittee on Permanent Investigations, and scheduled
a briefing by OER representatives for him on the Dresser case for
2:00 p.m. Friday, 15 September at 101 Russell Senate Office
Building. This is a follow-up to our earlier briefing.
3. PLC) LIAISON Scheduled a meeting for the
IG to meet with staff members Timothy Ingram and. Dick Barnes,
House Government Operations Subcommittee on Government Information
and Individual Rights, for 3:00 p.m. Friday, 8 September at
Headquarters, to discuss in general the role of the IG in
reporting improprieties to the Intelligence Oversight Board
under Executive Order 12036. This is a follow-up to an earlier
meeting by the staff with a representative of the Office of
General Counsel.
4. (Internal Use Only - GMC) LIAISON Took a call from
Erica Ward, on the staff of the Senate Select Committee on
Ethics - Korean Inquiry. Ms. Ward said that the Inquiry staff's
draft final report was now nearly complete and that sections
dealing with intelligence information were ready for our review.
We arranged for a courier to pick up the draft report sections
this date. Ms. Ward stressed the importance of quick attention
to the draft because the Inquiry staff intended to have it printed
by 15 September. I told her that we would give it our immediate
attention. On another subject we discussed arrangements for
the debriefing of Korean Inquiry staffers cleared for SI and TK,
and agreed that the best time for this debriefing would be the
last week in September, just before the Korean Inq
disbanded.
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5. (Internal Use Only - GMC) LIAISON Called Beverley
Lumpkin, on the staff of the House International Relations
Subcommittee on International Organizations,'to talk about documents
from the John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson Libraries
which he had received via the National Archives. These are
CIA documents which the Subcommittee staff has requested to
see. I told Ms. Lumpkin that it was difficult for me to see
the relevance of many of these documents to the Subcommittee's
investigation. Ms. Lumpkin explained that the Subcommittee had
requested the documents from listings of the two Libraries'
holdings on the general subject of Korea, and that the staff
had little basis upon which to evaluate how relevant they
might be; nevertheless, the staff did not want to take a
chance on missing something that might be important. I told
Ms. Lumpkin that some mechanism would have to be devised for
determining which of these documents the staff had a real
interest in reviewing. I suggested that it might be best
for the Agency to prepare a short description of each document
so that the Subcommittee could eliminate those which were of no
interest to it without us having to expose the staff to documents
that were not relevant to the Subcommittee's investigation. I
later consulted with NFAC/CSS, who agreed to
have NFAC prepare short escriptions of the documents in question.
6. (Unclassified - MC) LIAISON Per her earlier request,
sent via courier to Carol Sacchi Garnett, Senate Energy and
Natural Resources Committee staff, a copy of the Polar Rons
Atlas.
7. (Unclassified - MG) LIAISON Per his request of
5 September, sent via coureir to Jack Ticer, Chief Clerk, Senate
Armed Services Committee, the following: National Basic
Intelligence Factbook, Maps of the World's Nations -Africa,
Ma s o the World's Nations - Western Hemis ere, In ian Ocean
Atlas, People's Republic o ina Atlas, and six copies-of
the~Gui e to Law of the Central Intelligence Agency.
8. (Unclassified - ELS) Jim Bush, House Permanent Select
Committee on Intelligence staff, called and said he was prepared
to restart his briefings on HUMINT. I agreed to schedule some
briefings for him.
9. (Unclassified - ELS) LIAISON I called Tom Getman, in
the L of nator Mark 0. Hatfield (R., Ore.), and told him
had been an independent contractor with the
that
Agency rom to 1976. He thanked me for the information.
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This was in response to a previous inquiry from Getman.
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ELS) LIAISON Delivered a sensitive Special 25x1
report to Jim Fellenbaum, Senate Appropriations
Committee statf. Tried to deliver this report to Chuck Snodgrass,25x1
House Appropriations Committee staff, but he was not available.
The report will go to Mr. Snodgrass by courier Monday, 1.1 September.
11. (Unclassified - DFM) LIAISON OGC, talked 25x1
with Keith Raffel, Senate Select Committee on Intelligence staff,
and passed along his comments on ee report on use of 25X1
classified infofmailan-in court. comments concerned
the sections on 25X1
cases. In addition, I made one suggestion. Later a e was
informed that Tony Lapham, General Counsel, does want to review
the report personally and we will have his comments to Raffel
by 12 September.
12. (Unclassified - DFM) LIAISON Called Mike Gelacak,
Senator Joseph Biden's (D., Del.) designee on the Senate
Select Committee on Intelligence, and informed him of the inquiry
of Mike Brown, a summer intern in Senator Biden's office, for
Agency views on the Hughes-Ryan Amendment. I said we were
puzzled why such a paper would be written by Senator Biden's
personal staff rather than his Committee designee and asked
Gelacak to make sure the request was valid. He agreed. 25x1
13. DFM) LIAISON Called Earl Eisenhower,
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence staff, regarding Senator
Barry Goldwater's (R., Ariz.) letter to the Director on the
William Kampiles case. I asked whether the Senator was asking
for a personal meeting with the Director or for a session with the
Committee. Eisenhower said Senator Goldwater does not need a
personal meeting. We agreed that there would be no need for a
written response from the Director to the letter since arrangements
for a Committee meeting for next week were well underway.
14. (Unclassified -MMP) LIAISON Francis Frazier, Senate
Armed Services Committee staff, called asking for background on
the CIA paper entitled KGB Utilization of the Media. I told
her that it was Appendix of the House Permanent Select Committee
on Intelligence hearings on the CIA and the media. She said she
would obtain a copy on the Hill.
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15. (Unclassified - MMP) LIAISON Called Loch Johnson,
House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence staff, to ask
him whether Representative Les Aspin (D., Wis.) would be able to
address the new supergrade class on 13 September 1978. Mr.
Johnson said that Representative Aspin had said that he would
very much like to, but could not.
I also asked Mr. Johnson whether he thought that Representative
Aspin would be able to conduct hearings on CIA's relationship with
academia prior to the end of the current session and was told that
it looks most doubtful. Mr. Johnson did add that he was sure that
Representative Aspin would hold hearings prior to the end of the
year -- perhaps in the latter half of November 1978.
Mr. Johnson also asked some more questions about the NFAC
Senior Review Panel and other questions on the :regulation governing
CIA's 'r Plationqhin With academia. I have passed these questions
on to NFAC/CSS.
16. MMP) LIAISON Thomas K. Latimer, Staff 25x1
Director, House Permanent elect Committee on Intelligence, called
to find out whether the Committee should contact the Attorney
General's office with regard to his appearance along with the DCI
at 0900 hours on 13 September. I said that this had been taken
care of.
I told Mr. Latimer that I had a copy of Book V of the Agency's
rebuttal to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report
entitled "The Investigation of the Assassination of President
Kennedy: Performance of the Intelligence Agencies." I said that
the House Select Committee on Assassinations has a copy of the
volume which contains strongly worded reactions to the report.
I added that we had not previously made the report available to
the Committee because we were not anxious to rake up old coals.
Mr. Latimer indicated interest in reviewing the volume and promised
to return it after doing so. He said that he fully understood
our sensitivities and would respect them.
17. (Unclassified - JMD) LIAISON Called the Tallahassee
office of Senator Richard B. Stone (D., Fla.), and spoke wi
Sgt. Pete Butler concerning a letter they sent to us from a 2 x1
who is interested in working for the Agency but doesn't want to have
us write to him or contact him. I asked how we were supposed to
respond. He said just write a simple letter explaining how people
should go about applying. I passed this on to 25X1
EO/Personnel, who will write the letter.
Sgt. Butler asked me if he could get an Agency seal for his office.
I told him I was not sure, but I would check on this and let him know.
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18. (Unclassified - LLM) LIAISON DIA, reported
OSD's agreement to participate in a joint session with the House
Appropriations Committee Surveys and Investigations Team on their
study on Estimates to learn more about the thrust; of the study before 25X1
proceeding. OSD representatives will include Pete Oleson, in the
STAT nffirp of the Denuty Under Secretary for Policy/I)OD, either Admiral
from DIA, and
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23. (Unclassified - LLM) LEGISLATION Bill Heckman, Depart-
ment of Justice, called for assistance in connection with turning
around the vote in the Committee of the Whole on the McClory
amendment to H. R. 7308, the electronic surveillance bill, when the
matter comes up for reconsideration. I told him we would do so
but that it seems that the needed votes will be found among those
absent during the initial vote. Subsequently, I reported my call
to Representative Ike Skelton (D., Mo.) and that Representative
Thomas L. Ashley (D., Ohio) would support the Administration. I
also reported to Heckman the need to be sure that the Director's
authority for security protection of information provided the
courts be preserved if the Ertel amendment is not reconsidered.
FREDERICK P. HITZ '
Legislative Counsel
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