VIETNAM ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION

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• Publication Date: April 19, 1972
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trpversy have been voiced in more than
three years of debate. At least 12 exhaustive
federal reports have been compiled. Interior
Secretary Morton is expected by bath sides
to issue the go-ahead permit, but to date it
remains mysteriously withheld aftet a nttrn-
ber of pastponenteuts.
Wo urge granting the permit with no far-
ther delay. Even that would not mean an
all-out green light. The conservationists
could and presumably would block actual
pipeline construction for another year or
even permanently by appeals up "to the Su-
premo Court.
The permit should be hedged around with
every rational condition possible to prevent
permanent environmental injury, and to re-
quire repair of temporary injury during con-
struction. But the overriding point is: It
should be done as soon as possible.
27 issue of Railway Age contains a fas-
cinating statistical table that demolishes
the myth that nationalized railroads
often return a tidy profit to their share-
holders-the taxpayels of the various
countries which have nationalized raii-
roads.'Tlle truth is very different. Tho
truth Ls that whole railroads are nation-
alized, taxpayers must make up stagger-
ing losses.
I ask tuzanimous consent that the table
be printed in the RECORD.
There being no objection, the table
was ordered to be printed in the RECORD
as follows:
MYTH: NATIONALIZED RAILWAYS OFTEN RETURN A TIDY PROFIT TO THEIR "SHAREHOLDERS"
` , -TRUTH: WHERE RAILS ARE NATIONALIZED, TAXPAYERS MUST MAKE UP STAGGERING LOSSES
' pn thousands of dollars)
. Total ?
Defeits Lost to
Subsidy after tex- Taxes
payments subsidy payers paid Net profit
Subsidy
payments
Deficits
after
subsidy
Total
cost to
tax?
payers
Taxes
paid
Net profit
____ 19,300 22,176 41,476 0 0
_
Netherlands Railways
Italian State .......................
167,788
397
200
410,150
845
306
577,938
045
704
0
0
0
0
___
_______
89,200 26,989 116,]89 0 0
__
Canadian National
German Federal____________________
,
637
23
,
41]
247
,
884
900
0
0
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________________
353,700 353,760 0 0
h R
il
B
t
French National ....................
4
,
,
,
946
334
677
633
__
________________________ _.
a
ri
is
Japanese National______________________________ 375,850 375,850 0 0
U.SCiasslRailroads_______________
0
0
0
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Alaskan pipeline- are 'being unrealistic in
their zealous attempts t.o preserve Alaska as
a iro2,en wonderland.
David R. Brower, a leading spokesman for
the coltservationists, has said that the Alas-
kan controversy is "nothing less than a test
case of what the struggle 'to save this planet
is all about .. we need a cooling of this
? drive for more energy ... we mast cut down
on the use of fossil Puels:'
We submit that this concept, if extended
to its irrational coticluslon, would mean a
return to travel by horse and buggy and
.illumination by candlelight. By practical
contrast, the U.S. is being forced to rely in-
creasingly on oil imports from the turbulent
Middle F,a,st, where Russian influence leaves
us dangerously and increasingly exposed to
potential coercion.
All the pros and cons of the pipeline con-
Note: These statistics, and others used throughout this article unless otherwise specified, are
tar calendar 1968, the most recent year for which comparable figures are available due is changed
methods of reporting. While the actual figures have not changed, the relationships remain much
the same. For example, while U.S. railways earned less and paid smaller taxes in 1911, the French
Railways' total cost to taxpayers that year rose to;],200,000,000. And British Rail is still deep in
the red, despite a 1969 Act of Parliament which wrote off much of BR's debt and provided grants
COAST GUARD BUDGET AUTHOR-
. IZATIONS
Mr. PACKWOOD. Mr. President, the
Senate Commerce Committee is current-
ly considering. authorizatiotls for the
U.S. Coast 'Guaid. The President's
budget request for fiscal year 1973
includes funding for the construction of
a Coast Guard air station in North Bend,
Dreg: The establishment of this a.ir
station would allow more effective en-
forcement of American laws. It would
also help to protect 01?egon's commercial
fishing industry from those foreign fish-
ermen who continue to ignore our terl'i-
torial integrity.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous con-
sent that the statement which I made
before the Senate Subcommittee on
Merchant Marine on April 18 be printed
ifl the RECORD.
There being no objection, the state-
- ment was ordered to be printed in the
RECORD, aS fO11owS:
STATEMRNT BY SENATOR BOB PACKWOOD BE-
FORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON MERCHANT
MARINE,, APRIL 16, 1972
Mr. Chairman, and members of the sub-
committee, Iwant to thank you for this op-
portunity to appear before you today, and
for holding hearings on Coast Guard au-
thorizations.
I am testifying today in behalf of the
authorization of a Coast Guard air station in
North Bend, Oregon. In addition to providing
Increased surveillance of the Oregon coast,
this air station would supply the increased
search and rescue operations desperately
needed in this area.
Throughout the commercial fishing sea-
son, I regularly receive letters and telegrams
" ~ .from irate Oregon fishermen who complain
in advance rather than subsidies after the fact. Not included in the,U.S. figures are comparatively
smaller payments made by public authorities to railroads in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and fdassa~
chusetts to help offset rising commuter-service losses. Biggest such payment in 1968 was 56,374,-
219 by New Jersey to 5 commuter roads.
Source: International Railway Statistics (Paris), as extracted by Union Pacific researchers;
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about the intolerable invasion of our fishing
zone by foreign fiskting fleets. The presence
of foreign ships presents a tremendous threat
to Oregon's commercial fishing industry.
Oregonians are understandably bitter about
lengthy r;:Or15t Guard delays hi answering
their complalltts of Soviet, Korean, and Jap-
anese violations of our 12-mile limit.
In response to this problem, I have a
tempted since joining the Senate to insur
that the interests of our commercial flshin
industry receive the high priority .they de-
serve.
In 1970, for example, I cosponsored a bill,
which eventually became law, to increase the
maximum fine for illegal fishing from $10,000
to 550,000. That same year, I cosponsored an
amendment to the military sales act which
prohibited assistance to the Republic of Ko-
rea until the President of the United States
determined that no citizens of the Republic
of Korea were fishing for salmon east of the
line 175 degrees west longitude. More re-
cently, Ihave cosponsored legislation to re-
quire that all fish aboard any foreign vessel
found fishing in American waters must be
forfeited.
Mr. Chairman, each of these proposals
represents a major step toward achieving a
solution to our foreign fishing problem. We
must realize, however, that strong laws are
not worth the paper they're printed on unless
they are strictly enforced. Unfortunately,
strict enforcement has been tl}e exception
rather than the rule in protecting America's
commercial fishing Industry from foreign.en-
croachments. Until we provide adequate man-
power and equipment to patch the violators,
and impose the fines we legislate, foreign
fishermen will continue to ignore our terri-
torial integrity. Tho construction of an aft
station at North Bend would allow more ag-
gressive enforcement of existing law..
Oregon fishermen have assured me that
their bitterness stems not so much from the
action of foreign fleets as from the inaction
of Federal departments and agencies. In the
past, the justified concerns of Oregon com-
mercial fishermen have been met with mere
expressions of sympathy or apology. I can
assure you, Mr. Chairman, that Oregon fish-
ermen deserve and expect better treatment.
I am here today to insure that they receive
VIETNAM ROUNDTABI,1;`
DlscussiON
Mr. MOSS. Mr. President, first, what
has been the price of the Nixon war
policy?
When is the President prepared to ful-
fill his promise to the American people
to end the war? On August 8, 1968 in
accepting the Republican Party nomina-
tion, the President said:
I pledge to you tonight that the first pri-
ority foreign policy objective of our next
Administration will be to bring an honorable
end to the war in Vietnam. .. My fellow-
Amerlcans; the dark long night for America
is about to end.
What honor is there for the President
to be known as "the greatest bomber in
history? Since President Nixon's "inau- "
guration, more than 6 million tons of
bombs have been dropped in Vietnatn-
i ton for every minute he has been in
office-more than the combined total
dropped during World War II and I~o=
res. In a mere 3 years, Nixon llas
dropped more bombs than President
Johnson did in 5 years.
There is a deepening despair increas-
ing in this country as .a result of Presi-
dent Nixon's resumption of the bombing
attacks against major ports of North
Vietnam.
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