VIETNAMESE COMMUNIST FORCES IN LAOS

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• Collection: General CIA Records
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• Original Classification: S
• Document Page Count: 15
• Document Creation Date: December 15, 2016
• Document Release Date: June 24, 2003
• Sequence Number: 45
• Publication Date: August 18, 1962
• Content Type: MF

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18 August 1962
M CMOV ANDUM Pmt: Assistant to the Director of Central
Inte,' ligorlce
SUBJECT:
Vietnamese Communist Forces in Laos
Ion 18 August, Souvan
stein no North Vietnamese
troops in arews e*nWd1 ed by his forces although some North
Vietnamese nta expe
Jarres. Such starts ar,
struetot s" were in the Plsine des
contrary to the fad.
2. The five American prisoners released by the Pathet Lao on
"17 August have ram the presence of North Vietnamese forces
in Laos. Grwd WoUkill, NBC eameramsn?eorre sponderlt, has
described his own personal experiences with North. Vietnamese troops
and has estimsted th+et 10, 000 North Vietr were in Laos--a guess,
incbetIy, close to own estimates of between 9, 000 and
10,000.
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mad Watch teams have also reported the
movement of trio ka containing North Vietnamese troops toward the
DRY border. However, these sources of intelligence an not going
to provide a final tad definitive answer to the question of whether
or not all North Vietnamese have left Laos and certainly will not
support a tegal c*se, before the ICC. The attitude taken by Souvanna
Phounaa and Souphanou ong 25X
have been prompted by the reported "deal" In wbith on-vanx Phounna
promised the Vietnamese and t inese Comm - that he would keep
their presence a riet. In turn, they promised to withdraw !from.
Lane. Therefore this suggests that it will be di cult to determine
if the Vietnamese unsts withdraw and mainly difficult to
"prove".
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ER 62-5931
17 August 1962
MEMORANDUM FOR: DDCI
Exec. Dir. (Action)
DD/I
DD/P
DD/ P
At the Special Group (CI) meeting of 16 August, there was
a discussion of the interdepartmental survey teams required
under NSAM 173. The Department has decided to survey
Guatemala instead of the Dominican Republic in addition to
Colombia. The reason is that State expects disorders in the
Dominican Republic and felt it would be inadvisable to have
a survey team there now. Mr. Byroade will be chairman
of this group and Mr. Belcher the executive secretary.
The DCI reported, that George Carey will be our representative.
Action: George Carey to be formally assigned.
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ER 62-5933
17 August 1%2
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MEMORANDUM rOk: DD/P
Direct" of Training
Exec. Dir.
DO/P
DDCI
1. At the Special Group (CI) meeting of lb August
is dealing with the training c e's report on the
country team s.r, it was agreed that the aaame
"Problems of Development to Internal Defense" should
be retained alb there was some objection to this
and it was agreed that that reference to "country team semi.
nar" could be used as a short farm reference. There was
general satisfaction over improvements in the curriculum
and quality of instructors. An appeal was made that
faculty assignments be for a year.
Action: The DCI wants to know prior to next
week's Special Group meeting how the Agency feels about
the question of bculty assignments for a year's duration.
Training should prepare a memo and forward it through
the DD/ P by Wednesday, August ZZ.
2. In further discussion of this subject, the DCI
criticised security practices at the foreign Service Institute
and it was agreed that this matter would be reviewed and
security should be tightened.
Action The DCI wants to be informed periodically
on the status of the Foreign Service Institute's security
practices.
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17 Auger 1962
MEMORANDUM FOR: DDCI
Exec. Dir.
DD/F
DD/ P
At the Special Group (Cl) meeting of 16 August, there
was a discussion of future lectures by Government officials
at the Foreign Service Institute.
The DCI believes considerable care and thought should be
given to any addresses by feral Carter and Messrs.
Kirkpatrick and Helms. Subjects of their talks should be
related to other presentations to avoid duplication. Also,
to avoid speeches which merely trace past history,
some thought should be given to describing the case history
of the past situation as it relates to lessons learned for
future situations.
H. Knoche
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ER 62-5929
11 August 1%2
MEMORANDUM FOR: DD/P
C/CA fActiomal,
DD/ P
At the Special Group (CI) =meeting of 16 August, the
Attorney General brought up the question as to why
Cord Meyer could not address a group at the Foreign
Service Institute on
Action: The DCI would like to have C/CA report
to him as this mstter in order that the DCI may inform
the Attorney General.
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ER 62-5928
17 August 1962
MEMORANDUM FOR: DD/ R (Action)
Exec. Dir.
DD/ R
DDCI
At the Special Group meeting of 16 August, the various
cover stories were reviewed. Questions were raised about
No one like it but it was pointed out that
alternatives which had been explored would raise serious
questions.
Action: The DCI wants further thought to be given to
to see if it can is any way be improved.
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ER 62-5927
MEMORANDUM FOR: DD/P
DDCI
17 August 1962
At the Special Group (CI) meeting of 16 August, General
Taylor made reference to the DCI's letter of 13 Augutit on
intelligence required for Counter-Insurgency. The General
accepted the letter as responsive to his request of 22 April
and he asked that the letter and attachments be circulated
to members of the CI group.
Action: The DCI wants immediate follow-up to
General Taylor's request.
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Eft 62-5926
17 August 1962
MEMORANDUi4 FOR: DD/P
DD/P
C/irs
DDCI
At the Special Group (CI) meoVAg of 16 August in a discussion
of the establishment of additional training camps in South Vietnam.
the DCI emphasised the importance of the early establishment
of camps in the western part of the country.
The DCI also reviewed the procedure followed by CIA in
maintaining a rear and record of arms issued and he
strongly urged that the DOD follow the same procedure in the
future.
The DCI posed me objection to the transfer of responsibility
for training from CIA to DOD.
H. Knoche
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Luc. Dir.
MEMORANDUM FOR: DD/P
DD/ P
DIiCI
ust 1962
Action)
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At the Special Group (CI) meeting of 16 August, the
DCI briefly reported on the status *IT I STATINTL
It was generally agreed that 25X
had gotten off to a good start.
Action: A copy of the report used by the DCI an
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cable) are to be submitted to General Taylor.
H. Knoche
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1? August 1962
Exec. Div.
MEMORANDUM FOR: Ells/R
DD/I
DDIR
DDCI
Action)
STATINTL
STATINTL
At the Special Group me" of 16 August a question was
raised an to whether operation
should not come before the Epecial Group. This apparently is
a Naval opera ti o well off share conducted by the Navy for the
purpose of determing Soviet defensive reaction time. Decision
as to whether the matter should come before the Group was
left anaresollved.
Action: Please advise me so that I can inform the
DCI the details as to what this operation is.
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raised a + st a abeam eenualisis re nds of XIi clearances
He said that a record was k%* of all daanestc clearances but
there- was NO "ewd of fore *rs who had base n briefed as KB.
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DiroeW Seewrity (Action)
DD
Ex". Dior.
At the Spe" Clwomp = of 16 Aa t.
wants this mater reviewed immediately
and a memo to the DCI should be prepared ou diniad what are
the its In this matter. pit&se s .it the memo an Mead ay,
20 August,
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MEMORANDUM FOR DD/ P
DD/1
DD/P
DDCI
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17 August 1962
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(Action)
At the Special Group (CI) meeting of 16 August, the DOD
Pifer concerning the status of the Cambodian Army's Civic
Action Program was discussed.. There was general agree-
meat that the program seemed sound and encouraging. The
DCI noted the reservations of this Agency on the subject,
and these reservations were to be noted in the official
minutes.
25X1 Action: The DD/ P L---thould make sure th,
minutes reflect the DCIfs r rvations and the DD/P u
is asked to provide occaai*W status reports to the DCI, based
on the coordinated %ieewe of DD/P and DD/Jon the subject of
the Cambodian, program.
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17 August 1962
MEMORANDUM FOR: D
Exec. Dir.
DD/ R, (Action)
DD/R {
DD/I
DD/P
At the Special Group meeting of 16 August,
explained a plan to brief NATO representatives and heads of
NATO states on certain aspects of KH. The DCI urged that
these briefings be kept to an absolute minimum pointing out
security hazards infolved. It was agreed that the briefings
should be kept limited. The DCI plans to discuss this matter
with 8ecrcry Rusk and the President.
Action: DD/R, should prepare a position paper for the
DCI to use when taking this subject up with higher authority,
no later than Tuesday, 21 August.
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