MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION WITH MR. BENJAMIN READ

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• Publication Date: January 1, 1964
• Content Type: MEMO

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:fir. T njenln Read, .i xecutivo Secretary
.tJe-aartsnent of State
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This is to con-firm the substance of our conversation of
2 March responding to your letter of 24 February to Mr. Kirkpatrick
regarding the proposed oxctiange of representatives between the
Oaerp.tioris Centel.s of the Department of State and CIA,
As I Indicated to you, our Operations Centers have different
functto ss; yours is in ra position to monitor the flow of com-,
a unl.cati,:ors nz~d to serve the role of an executive or expediter;
ours, on ttae other tend, has primarily a service fu'.*. -tion of
bringing t~3gether information from all sources on U.ts. and ene*y
capabilities and intentions as they bear on >BituatJons on con-
cern to the X1, the Ageflcy and the Intelligence co=unity.
Another or o r,nter`s functions is to maintain an in or
.X 'U nd allied to .r.tto>t~ Cwt at~ili sears t: udin thass f
CLAts4s glen +est-1,re f ervie- a asts~ ear cxmtic technJca cap action
Jyi~ir,mruzy. e!ow Y4'.r, :7u E'Jf'at.~.01-atu Cen coon not deal sepes ific'all,y
with the sorts of intelligence products which I feel would be
of the great?3st interest to you---?thaat Is, the substantive analyses
and views of our analysts and evaluating groups on developing
situations which concern both ourselves and the Department of
State.
I would therefore pr3poae that Mr. ietainger be assigned
to my Immediate office where he could keep a aabreesst of our
activities and substantive Judgments without eicountering the
difficulties Involved in working in an area where C landeaatine
Service operrationai data Is being processed. My `Executive
Staff is such more a counterpart of your Secretariat than is
our Operations Center, and I believe that Mr. Getasinger's
assi.ggnaeent with us would be mare productive to you it he
were closer to it.
I f this nrr aax gement is not satisfactory, we have agreed
to explore the r>'ossssibi It ty of using Mr. Davis, INR's representative
State Department review completed
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to the Central Intelligence Bulletin panel, as a point of
contact - h "my asecu v"e i an for Operations Center
during his daily visits to Langley. You have agreed to
consider accepting in your Operations Center
any case, our Operations Center will respond as promptly
sad effectively as they can to any questions you may put
which our Operations Center can be of service t, you. In
whom you could use as your po n o. contact :for matters in
to them d_.rectly.
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RAY S. CLINI
Deputy Director (Intelligence)
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bEPARTMENT OF STATE
February 24, 1964
Dear Mr. Kirkpatrick:.
I understand you are aware of discussions which I-'
and members of my staff have had with Mr. J. J. Hitchcock
and other members of your Collection Guidance Staff re-
carding a proposed exchange of personnel between our re-
spective Operations Centers. Such an exchange would corn-
plement parallel exchanges which have taken place between
our Operations Centers and the National Military Command.
Center..
The purpose of the exchange would be to facilitate to-
ordination and improve the flow of inforn}ation between our
two agencies. In this connection, we believe it would be
desirable for your man to be able to draw upon the resources
both of DDI and DDP and for ours to have access to infor-
mation about the work of both staffs in your Operations
Center.
For our part we shall seek to. assure that your repre-
sentative has prompt access to operational and other infor-
mation from State Department sources of interest to your
agency. However I must emphasize that this arrangement
would not in any way affect existing relationships and
channels, particularly those. established with our Bureau
of Intelligence and Research.
Mr. Lyman B. Kirkpatrick, Executive Director,
Central Intelligence Agency,
Headquarters Building,
Langley, Virginia
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We are not able to judge in advance how mutually ad-
vantageous an exchange of this nature would actually prove
to be in practice. For this reason, we would prefer to
try it out first on an experimental basis.
I propose, therefore, that we commence'with a trial
period of a month and that we-consider at the end of the
month whether the~arrangement should be continued, modi-
fied or terminated.
During this trial period I believe it would be ap-
propriate for each of our agencies to make available one
officer for assignment to the Operations Center of the
other for as many hours a'week as circumstances appear to
require.
We plan to send over Mr. Norman Getsinger, an FSO-3.
who is currently serving as a Senior Watch Officer in the
Operations Center. Background information on Mr. Getsinger
may be found in the State Department's biographic register.
If this proposal is acceptable to yoti, please let me
know when you would like to commence the trial period-and
whom you would expect to assign here as an exchangee.-
Sincerely,
Benjamin H. Read
Executive Secretary
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On March 26, Me s . -t f&-rand Borel
met in the office of Mr. Ben Read, Mr. Bill
Connett being also present, to discuss
subject of exchange of personnel between
Ops Centers. Memorandum of Conversation
attached. Original has been passed. to
Mr. Read. and is considered. by him and
Mr. Cline as a counterproposal to State
letter of 24 February and hence a reply to
same. No further action needed by CIA
until State views on our proposals have
been ascertained. Have so informed
Messrs. Helms and. Hitchcock.
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