MEMORANDUM FOR: DEPUTY DIRECTOR FROM MARSHALL S. CARTER

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MEMORANDUM FOR: Deputy Director (Intelligence)
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The DCI has directed that briefings4prepared for his or my
use before Congressional committees, or other such high-level
bodies, include a statement' at the outset along the following
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We have a high degree of confidence in our estimates
because they come from intelligence from a variety of
Satellite
photography has been reasonably successful and we consider
it essential for the security of the Free World.
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Marshall S. Carter
Lieutenant General, USA
Acting Director
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Executive Director
General Counsel
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Director of Security
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Note to General Carter
When giving briefing at White House include
following statement:
We have a high degree of confidence in t4w
estimates because they come from intelligence
from a variety of sources.
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successful and we conside sential for the
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18 January 1964
SUBJECT: Disarmament Meeting on 18 January 1964
at the White House
1. At 2:45 this date Mr. Alexis Johnson informed me that
there would be a meeting with the President at 3:15 p. m. , in
the White House to discuss the most recent revision of his
proposed statement to the Geneva Conference, and that I was
expected to be there. Upon arriving at the meeting place I was
handed a draft by Adrian Fisher. It subsequently developed
that McNamara, Rusk, Taylor, and the President must have
had this draft for at least long enough to have thoroughly reviewed
and considered it. In any event, I read it immediately and was
struck by the fact that in those areas of the original draft as
given to Mr. Mc Cone by Dr. Scoville in which the DCI had taken
exception, ameliorating language had been inserted in the new
draft to considerably temper and meet objections of-Mr. McCone.
The draft was now much more a speech by the President as to
what he hoped might develop as a result of mutual give and take
rather than a statement of U. S. policy and definite intentions.
2. The President entered the room shortly, accompanied
by Bill Moyer and Jack Valenti. Others present were Rusk,
McNamara, General Taylor, Dr. Seaborg, Adrian Fisher, and
myself. Alexis Johnson was not present.
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3. The President opened by stating that he had read the
revised draft and wanted to know if there were any objections to
it. Dr. Seaborg pointed out that he had some hesitancy about
opening totally his closed-down plants for international inspection
(paragraph 3, page 3) but that there were many ways of deter-
mining whether or not the reactor was in fact shut down -- he
simply did not want to give carte blanche to inspectors overrunning
the entire plant. This position was adopted. Dr. Seaborg then
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said that he wanted it understood that the closing down of the
plants was not necessarily a permanent commitment and that
whenever it became necessary or desirable, in the absence
of international agreement to the contrary, we should retain
complete freedom of action to reopen a reactor any time we
chose. This position was agreed.
4. Mr. McNamara pointed out that he had been working
steadily the last few days to get agreement in the Pentagon on
a paper substantially in accord with this draft and that the only
thing that now gave them a problem was subparagraph (c) on
page 4 as to the establishment of nuclear-free zones. He said
if this could be deleted, the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the
Department of Defense would buy the paper. Their concern
was that we would get so involved in these zones that we would
lose freedom of action to shift nuclear weapons through the
Canal Zone, for example, or by air through overflights.
Secretary Rusk pointed out that they had discussed this a num-
ber of times before, that it was nothing new, and that he would
hope we could establish nuclear-free zones in Latin America
and Africa for example. The President said that when the
crunch came he depended on the Joint Chiefs of Staff and that
he must have them on his side. Accordingly the paragraph on
nuclear-free zones was eliminated.
5. I then stated that the President should know that there
was on record a letter from Mr. McCone pointing out some
problem areas that could develop ii a number of these points,
particularly as to our getting bacl into a position. of letting up
on the need for full and adequate verification. I further said
that aside from the intelligence aspects of the problem, there
were certain policy matters as regards reaction of West Germany,
and particularly France, that should be considered. The President
then asked for Mr. McCone's letter and glanced through it rather
hurriedly. General Taylor asked to see the letter and he did the
same. I then gave a copy to Secretary Rusk, particularly pointing
out those portions of DCI's letter concerning his membership on
the Committee of Principals and his reservations at the policy
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level. Mr. Rusk indicated he had seen Mr. McCone's letter.
(Subsequently Mr. Adrian Fisher stated that they had worked
all afternoon and most of the night in revising the original
draft to meet the objections raised by the DCI and he thought
that they had moderated their language and weasel-worded the
statement adequately to meet DCI's objections.) The President
then asked me if I had any specific, further objections to the
statement now that the nuclear-free zone problem had been
eliminated and that the DCI's letter was on record. I stated
that depending upon what was actually finally determined as an
international agreement, we might be in serious trouble on
verification but that this problem would come later. I felt that
as a statement by the President there was adequate protection
in future negotiations to ensure the best interests of the United
States. (I subsequently checked with Adrian Fisher who assured
me that there was no backoff in ACDA and State from the require
ment for adequate verification and that the additional words
inserted in the latest draft were specifically to meet DCI's prior
objections. In other words, DCI's letter of comment is a matter
of record with the President and the other principals at the
meeting, and the President commented that the Central Intel-
ligence Agency was certainly a smooth-operating outfit. It was
obvious that he had his tongue in his cheek in this regard to
indicate that we not only covered our rear but our flanks as well.
The President then directed a number of actions as regards
Congressional briefings, preparation of a talk for him to make
to the American public in explanation of his Geneva Conference
statement. In connection with this speech for American con-
sumption, he directed that it be prepared so that any tenant
farmer could understand it -- ten words per sentence, four sen-
tences per paragraph, and four-letter words throughout.
6. This ended discussion of the Geneva Conference statement.
7. New subjects:
a. There was then a discussion of a letter to Khrushchev
but I was not aware of the contents nor were the contents
mentioned. The discussion revolved around the date at which
such a letter would be made public.
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b. The President then expressed his great concern
over the emergent situation in Panama. He said that he
had proposed injecting himself directly into the problem
yesterday with a public statement and approaches to the
OAS specifically to lay down publicly exactly what the facts
were as regards Panamian aggression, intrusions into the
Zone, killing of American soldiers with rifle bullets by
snipers while they were armed only with bird shot, etc. ,
etc. He said that he had been dissuaded from this course
by the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of State and
others. He said he was shocked to read in this morning's
New York Times a story (presumably the Tad Szulc article)
that pretty well covered exactly what his proposals were.
He said he still felt i~t was a good idea and that he thought
Harriman, Rusk, McNamara, Johnson, and others should
assemble small groups of Latin American Ambassadors and
tell them what he, the President, wanted to tell them. He
thought it was an even better idea if he did it himself. I did
not get the impression that a decision was made in this
regard nor do I think any action will be taken as a result of
this meeting. Unfortunately the discussion centered then
on the security aspects of leaks to the public and the President
expressed in no uncertain terms, with great persuasiveness
and even more emphasis, his unhappiness at his complete
inability to say anything to anyone without its immediately
being in the papers or getting around town. He made some
very pointed comments reflecting on the integrity of the State
Department and of the Department of Defense in this regard.
He felt the situation had become extremely serious in the past
two months since he had become President and did not recall
any such problem when he was meeting periodically with
President Kennedy. He said he was prepared to clean house
wherever necessary to overcome this. Secretary Rusk pointed
out that this had been going on for twenty years and was nothing
new and McNamara agreed. The President thought it was
worse than he had ever seen it before and that in his 22 years
on the Armed Services Committee and around the Hill he had
never been involved in anything like this nor had he ever been
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bothered by reporters once he had made it clear that he
was not the talking kind. No decisions were taken, no
actions directed although both Rusk and McNamara indi-
cated they would immediately take whatever steps were
feasible to improve the situation.
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d. There was minor discussion as regards the situation
in ZA Vietnam with no one indicating any great enthusiasm
or any great surge of hopefulness as to the present situation.
The President stated he was most unhappy to be making a
speech indicating that things were improving and then to have
a USIA spokesman and an Embassy spokesman state in Saigon
that things were falling apart. He said somebody was getting
poor advice as well as poor information and he was inclined
to think it was he. He said that he was new in the job and
that he had in the past several months based his actions on
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the advice and guidance he had received from his principal
advisers whom he considered professionals and experts
in their fields. He said he was beginning to have serious
doubts that his own judgment had been wrong in a number
of cases although he was the first to admit that he had been
wrong in the past throughout his life at various times and
was certainly no more immune than anyone else from
making mistakes. I got the distinct impression that he was
mighty unhappy with some of the actions he has taken as a
result of recommendations from State. I also got the feeling
that from here on out he is much more liable to use his own
intuition and prescience as to what should be done and what
should not be done in the daily operations of his actions in
the foreign policy field.
e. Turning to more pleasant matters, the President
noted that the dinner he had given for the Congressional
Committee leadership had been a complete success and that
he was going to repeat it again on the 23rd and the 30th. He
had received nothing but highly favorable accolades from
the people who had attended and many of them indicated it
was the first time they had ever been in the White House and
certainly the first time they had had an adequate briefing by
the Administration leadership. The President said that he
had received a phone call saying that he should continue this
and he was certainly going to do so. He had also been
promised that at least in large measure as a result of this
briefing he would have a tax bill reported out by Wednesday.
The President then said we could do a lot better. He told
Rusk and McNamara that they should take a nap in the after-
noon prior to these two dinners so they would be much
fresher and more alert -- that they had done an A No. 1 job
but not quite up to the caliber that they had put on for the
labor leaders -- in his mind that performance could not have
been better. The President said he had planned for the
briefing to be twenty minutes and that instead it had lasted
an hour. He said that this was entirely too long and that
Mr. McCone alone had spoken for seventeen minutes. He
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then said that for the next two dinners he was going to have
only two briefers and the briefing would be scheduled for
fifteen minutes and that twenty minutes was the absolute
maximum he would sit still for. He said he wanted Mr.
Rusk and Mr. McNamara to work this out together, with
Mr. McNamara covering both the U. S. military and the
Soviet military as covered by Mr. McCone, and Rusk
covering the Soviet economy and the world roundup as
covered by Rusk and McCone at the last hearing. I sub-
sequently checked with Bill Moyer to determine whether
this was a change from the President's instructions to Mr.
McCone or whether it might have been an oversight. Mr.
Moyer stated that the President had given much thought to
this and since Mr. McCone would be away, he had changed
the system to the one just enumerated. This makes abun-
dant sense to me under the circumstances and I considered
any further discussion either with Moyer or the President
inappropriate.
8. The meeting then broke up at 4:15 because the President
had to go out to dedicate a building.
9. The foregoing notes are in a single copy and will be shown
only to the Director upon his return. Any actions indicated will
be directed by me at the Monday morning meeting. I will send a
very short, sanitized report of this meeting to Mr. McCone by
cable.
Marshall S. Carter
Lieutenant General, USA
Acting Director
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Substitute for paragraph 2:
News media contact for background briefings are to be on
a non-attributable basis and are to involve areas of disnussion
approved by the Director or the Deputy Director after coordination
by him with the White House, Department of, State, and the Department
of Defense, as appropriate. Such briefings must always be conducted
on an individual and never on a collective basis and with customary
care to avoid disclosures with respect to intelligence information,
estimates or admijnistration policy resulting therefrom. Briefings
involving attribution should be avoided at all times except under the
specific authority of the Director or Deputy Director, such authority
to be granted after receipt of policy guidance from the White House.
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Ii,MwORANDUM FOR THE DIRECTOR
16 January 1964
1. Attached is a proposed memorandum for you to sign.
Copies will then be given to each of the officers who attend
the morning :meetings. This memo has already been read
almost verbatim to the members of the Executive Co mittee
by me and was handled as a directive for their guidance. Its
phraseology corresponds to that proposed by you in your draft
memorandum of 13 January (attached as Tab A).
Z. Discussions with Mr. Bross, Iv.r. Kirkpatrick, and
riIr. Chretien resulted in this final memo. A separate proposal
will be made later for the establishment of a guidance cQm mttee
to study means by which the Agency "image" can best be put
forward in accordance with paragraph 5. This committee will
have the benefit of the reports called for in paragraph 6. The
makeup of this committee has not yet been agreed but my own
inclination is to avoid using our senior corn rnander s whose time
is already too heavily absorbed by other matters. I would prefer
to use some of our more senior officers who do not have Lrx r :edi-
ate operating and command responsibilities and possibly with
some assistance from consultants lilye Frank Wisner.
3. 1 recommend that you sign the attached nieraorandum
as written.
/S/
Marshall S. Carter
Lieutenant General, USA
Deputy Director
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16 January 1964
MEMORANDUM FOR: Executive Committee
SUBJECT : Agency Relations with News Media
1. Policy guidance concerning the handling of relations with
news media will be issued from time to time by the Director or
Deputy Director, and under no circumstances is to be changed or
modified except by the Director or Deputy Director in written form,
or orally and confirmed by implementing memorandum.
2. News media contacts for background briefings of either
attributable or nonattributable nature are to be coordinated by IV, 'r.
Chretien with the White Mouse, Department of State, and Depart-
ment of Defense as appropriate, or other departments and agencies
of the Governrnent as may be indicated and approved by the Deputy
Director.
3. As a general rule, in the absence of specific instructions
and coordination in accordance with paragraph 2 preceding, CIA
shall make no releases on any of its estimates, analyses, or reports,
whether classified or not. It is considered preferable that such
releases be made, if at all, by departments or agencies other than
CIA.
4. The substance of personal contacts with individuals of the
press, either socially or otherwise, will be recorded in a memo-
randum for the record as is the Agency's present practice, and a
copy forwarded to Mr. Chretien for his information.
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5. It continues to be my desire to create an "image" of CIA
which identifies the Agency with its statutory responsibility for
assembling, analyzing, and evaluating all intelligence of national
significance and reporting the substance of this intelligence to
policy makers. This image can be conveyed 1;y emphasizing the
sgexxcy's statutory role, as contrasted to its operational activities,
in private discussions with our counterparts in Government, with
members of Congress and in occasional meetings with influential
members of the press or general public. It Is not desirable in
discussions of this character to refer to operational achievements
or substantive production or to make any statements bearing or
susceptible to attribution.
6. As recent publicity involving the Agency has probably had
a varying impact upon different components, Deputy Directors are
requested to submit to the DDCI statements which assess the
implications of this publicity for their particular areas with recom-
mendations as to what action they consider appropriate to accomplish
the purpose outlined in paragraph S.
John A. McCone
Director
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will be issued from time to time by the Director or Deputy Director,
and under no circumstances is to be changed or modified except
by the Director or Deputy Director in written forn-~or orally
and confirmed by implementing memorandum.
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3. As a general rule, in the absence of specific instructions
ao?n r Qn -- -- - ~ CIA shall make no releases on
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any of its estimates, analyses, or reports, whether classified or
not. It is considered preferable that such releases be mad) if
at allj by departments or agencies other than CIA.
.4 The substance of personal contacts with individuals
of the press, either socially or otherwise, v2eL be recorded in
a memorandum for the record as is the Agency's present practice,
and a copy forwarded to Mr. Chretien for his information.
5. It continues to be my desire to create an "image" of
CIA which identifies the Agency with its statutory responsibility
for assembling, analyzing and evaluating all intelligence of national
significance and reporting the substance of this intelligence to
policy makers. This image can be conveyed by emphasizing the
Agency's statutory role, as contrasted to its operational activities,
in private discussions with our counterparts in Government, with
members of Congress and in occasional meetings with influential
members of the press or general public. It is not in
discussions of this character to refer to operational achievements
or substantive production or to make any statements bearing or
susceptible to attribution.
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6. As recent publicity involving the Agency has probably
had a varying impact upon different components, Deputy Directors
are requested to submit to the DDCI statements which assess the
implications of this publicity for their particular areas with
recommendations as to what action they consider appropriate to
accomplish the purpose outlined in paragraph 5.
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16 January 1964
Lieutenant General Joseph F. Carroll
Director
Defense Intelligence Agency
Washington, D. C.
Dear Joss
This is the full text of a message received this
morning from our a .igon station quoting a message which
Dappareutly is unable to locate and which may not yet
have been transmitted from .ACV.
E asked me to get this to you soonest in order
to alert cretary McNamara since Mr. McCone told me he
would discuss the matter with Mr. McNamara as soon as he
saw him. This could occur tonight at the White House. I
think the subject will also be discussed at USii3 tomorrow.
Faithfully yours,
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lv:araball S. Carter
Lieutenant General, USA
Deputy Director
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TO DIRECTOR
FROM; SAIGON
0705116 JAN 64
1. GENERAL HAR UNS HAD RECEIVED SIMILAR PROPOSAL
FROM ,GENERAL FITCH, AND REPLIED TO GENERAL FITCH IN
MESSAGE IDENTIFIED AS 2 TC4 40 ..b4, PERTINENT PARAGRAPH
THAT MESSAGE READS AS FOLLOWS:
"TILE MOSAIC MIGHT BE USEFUL IF IT IS UP'.-TO-DATE,
I. E. , IT MUST BE BUILT IMMEDIATELY AFTER PHOTOGRAPHY.
THIS COUNTRY CHANGES RAPIDLY FROM DRY SEASON TO RAINY
SEASON AND THE JUNGLE TAKES OVER IN A MATTER OF DAYS.
DUE TO THE LIMITED IN-COUNTRY READOUT CAPABILITY
1HIC;H IS FULLY COM) ITTED TO RVNAF TACTICAL SUPPORT,
AND THE VOLUME OF COVERAGE INVOLVED IN THIS MOSAIC
UNDERTA1ING, MACV/?.AD PARTICIPATION IN THIS PROJECT
VOULD BE RESTRICTED TO COORDINATION. TTERE IS CON-
SIDERABLE IN-COUNTRY COVERAGE OF SVN AVAILABLE THROUGH
CURRENT RECONNAISSANCE EFFORT." SAIG STATION CONCURS
IN THIS VIEW.
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CIV433 OF ` .IJ.) OPINION THAT 3
NOT SEE HOW PRQPC;;,S .D PHOTO COVERAGE AA& ULD BE USEFUL
FUTURE PROGRESS OF COUNTJOINSUROENCY
PROGRAM. IN SVN, BUT DOES NOT HOLD STRONG OPINION FOR
OR AGAINST PROPOSAL4. HZ h AS RitA) GENERAL HAR N '
1U ?LY QUOTED ABOVE, AND AGREES WITH IT.
Eh D OF : E " ' .CAE
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15 January 1964
EMORAN.DUM FOR: x:xecutive Director
1. I happened to mention to the Director that while
Chief of Staff, NORAD, I had hired a fully qualified public
speaking professor for the Headquarters and had required
all of my senior staff to take a course in public speaking.
This was mandatory, regardless of the officeres current
capabilities. The course was conducted for two hours, once
a week, and lasted eight weeks, for a total of sixteen hours.
Classes were small, of about ten or twelve pereplee, so that
toward the end during the two-hour period each of the students
could give a. ten-minute presentation.
2. The course involved all facets of public speaking,
beginning with development of a theme, rough outline, prepa-
ration of notes, preparation of a finished talk, reduction to
speaking notes, and presentation. The idea was to develop
the product you were to sell and then to sell it. The presents-
tion part involved standing on your feet, avoiding inept manner-
isms, and all of the various tricks of the trade which a good
and convincing speaker must acquire.
3. We already have some very competent briefera and
speakers, none of which, however, would suitor by attending
a refresher course somewhat along the foregoing lines, We
also have our fair share of relatively inadequate briefers and
speakers, and at the top level, whose image could be tretnen-
dou+ely improved by such a course.
4. The Director thought well of the idea and I would
appreciate your views and perhaps, if you think it appropriate,
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a consensus obtained by you of whether or not such a project
-would be of value to the Agency and should be initiated. If
affirmative, it must have top-level backing. You might also
consider including an abbreviated course in the Midcareer
Training Program.
Marshall S. Carter
Lieutenant General, Uri.
Deputy Director
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15 J'a.xneary 1964
EMORANOUM FOR: Deputy Director (Plans)
1. 1 have looked over the request of the Executive
Director for development of an itinerary for his trip to the
Far East and have compared it with my own plans. I find no
conflict that would in any way be troublesome to anyone and
have made changes in my own Itinerary, as well as the
Executive Director's, to avoid any substantial conflict.
2. 1 will not visit I
Mr. Kirkpatrick will not visit
4. Accordingly, the only duplications are as follows:
a. Th 1 will be at and see no
need for meeting with
patrick's visit.
who has urged Mr. Kirk-
b. Vietnam -- Everybody goes here and we will be
at least several weeks apart.
C I will interest myself almost entirely
with Mr. Kirkpatrick will be
meet
th the officers at least in part.
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5. Since there will be at least a month's difference in
our trips, I can see no problem that should require adjustment
in the scheduling.
2 ars ll S. Carter
.L.ieutendx t General, USA
Deputy Director
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Far Ea 3t Itinerary
you please have, dram up for me an itinerary for a
to the :'&X J ast to come ence approximately the first week in February
anwl to return me to Washington by not later than the middle of the last
i in February, covering specifically the following countries:
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ible, and again, if practic
I would like to spend sufficient time in each country to be able to get a
thorougr briefing on our activities, to visit the Ambassador and other
appropriate embassy officials in order to ascertain their vievfs of our
work and effecti?,eness, and also to make the appropriate call an liaison.
I believe that FE can burst judge as to what is the appropriate length of
time to spend in each country.
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