LETTER TO THE HONORABLE MCGEORGE BUNDY FROM MARSHALL S. CARTER

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• Publication Date: September 23, 1964
• Content Type: LETTER

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23 3epten ber 1964
The Honorable McGeorge Bundy
Special Assistant to the President
for National Security Affairs
The White House
sbiugton. D. C.
Attached is my formal reply is connection with
audio surveillance and counterxreasiares problems. I
call your attention to State's position as regards the
cha-irxnanship of one of the proposed USEB committees.
I have also attached a draft N3AM to implexr.ent
the proposed recommendations.
Faithfully yours.
Marshall S. Carter
Liestsnant General, USA
Acting Director
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a -inteUtgancee estlttaa.ry operant *s and stastttve
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Embassy indicates some inadequacy in existing procedures.
7. It should be noted that the proposal for a new and independent
USIB committee involves a matter of organization which has wider
significance than the audio and counter-audio problem itself. That
is, this tends to reverse in some small degree the recent trend
toward reducing the number of USIB committees. On the other hand,
this represents a major -- and probably desirable -- concession to
State; and it is in fact logical that this function should be overseen by
an independent committee since it involves activities beyond the
usual role of the Security Committee.
8. The attached memorandum from you to Mr. Bundy
summarizes the present position, as outlined above. It clearly
indicates the recommendations agreed to by CIA and DOD, and "not
objected to" by the FBI. State's dissent to included as an attachment.
9. It is recommended:
a. That you sign the attached letter to McGeorge Bundy.
b. That you or General Carter suggest to Mr. Bundy
that as discussed with him in June the entire matter be referred
to the DCI for resolution, through the -redium of a NSA,,%1,
proposed draft of which is attached. (You will note that the
NSA i4 does not designate the Chairman of the proposed new
come ittee -- which is the point at issue -- since this kind of
stipulation would probably be out of place in such a document.
But it authorizes the DCI to establish the committee and thus
implicitly to choose its chairman..
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JOHN A. BROSS
D/DCI/ NIPE
Attachments:
A. Letter from DC2 to McGeorge Bundy
B. Proposed NSAM
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DEPUTY UNDER SECRETARY, OF STATE
WASHINGTON,
FOR ADMINISTRATION
This document consists of 2 pages
Number / of 5 copies, Series A.
Mr. John A. McCone
Director
Central Intelligence Agency
Audio Surveillance and Countermeasures Problems
Within the U. S. Intelligence Community
REFERENCES. 1. Attached Draft of DCI memorandum to Mr. McGeorge Bundy
the Acting DCI
3. April 15, 1964 memorandum on subject to Mr. Bundy by
the Secretary of State
The Department of State is in accord generally with the referenced
draft memorandum; however, it does not fully concur with the recommenda-
tions contained in paragraph 5c.
The Department of State does not object to the transfer of the present
NSC Special Committee.on Audio Surveillance Countermeasures to full Committee
status under the USIB. However, the Department of State does take exception
to the recommendation that CIA chair the proposed countermeasures committee
of the USIB. The Department believes it should retain the chairmanship of
any inter-agency committee on audio surveillance countermeasures for the
following reasons:
. The diplomatic installations abroad which also house the
military attache and CIA operations are the responsibility
of the Department of State.
These diplomatic establishments have been and always will be
primary targets for technical penetration by the opposition.
During the past 15 years the Department of State has developed:
a staff of security engineers who have a firsthand knowledge of
the unique problems associated with audio surveillance counter-
measures. .The Department of State currently has a world-wide
program in fulfillment of this mission. In recognition of the
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 above, it is the Department's opinion that its experience and
competence in the countermeasures program exceeds that of any
other agency.
4. To date the Department of State has been solely responsible for
security of all diplomatic establishments in Eastern Europe.
The Department has initiated action within the present Committee
on Audio Surveillance Countermeasures which has greatly enhanced.
the cooperation and coordination within the community. For ex-
ample, the Department has invited other agencies to participate
in the Department's Regional Technical Center in Frankfurt, and
thus give them an opportunity to conduct inspections and gain
valuable experience in Eastern Europe.
Section 5.'c provides for the establishment of two subcommittees. The
research and development subcommittee.
is interested in knowing if it is intended that CIA chair the important
Department does not. object to this proposal. Needless to say, the Department
In summary, the Department of State feels that because of its responsi-
bility for targeted installations and its predominance of experience, it
ttee unaer,
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It is requested that this memorandum expressing the views of the Depart-
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McGeorge Bundy
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ment of State be forwarded to Mr. McGeorge Bundy at the time the attached