SOME ITEMS CONCERNING THE NSA AND THE CIA

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• Document Creation Date: December 19, 2016
• Document Release Date: May 4, 2005
• Sequence Number: 16
• Publication Date: February 18, 1963
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ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.
DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF
DEFENSE RESEARCH AND ENGINEERING
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1. Preparation of the CCP.
Good progress has been made, in my opinion, in the
formulation of the CCP. It is being put together this year on an
entirely new basis. We have defined thirty-six "intelligence
targets". Each of these is specified in considerable detail.
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Having defined these targets, the NSA is requiring the SCA's
(Service Cryptologic Agencies) to indicate precisely the resources
devoted at every station around the world to the acquisition of
intelligence and its processing from each of these thirty-six
targets. In addition, certain "overhead" activities have been
carefully defined and the allocation of effort against them is being
made at the same time.
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MEMORANDUM FOR MR. GILPATRIC
18 FEB 1963
SUBJECT: Some Items Concerning the NSA and the CIA
We have formed a small informal group to participate
in the formulation of the major procedural and substantive aspects
of this CCP. It includes a CIA representative
It also includes a DIA representative, In
addition, is taking the lead in pulling together the
efforts of these people, along with members of the Comptroller's
office, to furnish an on-going review of all these activities. In
this way, the CIA and the DIA are able not only to observe but to
influence the manner in which this basic framework is being evolved.
I had lunch with a couple
of weeks ago. expressed their appre-
ciation for these arrangements and their feeling that their ability
to understand and to influence the formulation of NSA planning
had enormously increased in the past year.
NSA, OSD reviews completed
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I called Mr. McCone to ask him whether he felt that
he was satisfied with this arrangement. While I am anxious to
avoid creating a bureaucratic procedure that automatically in-
volves large numbers of people in every activity, I have been
equally anxious to permit key people in the affected agencies to
have an effective voice in these matters. I believe we have ac-
complished that to a substantial degree. I found that Mr. McCone
did not know much about it, but said that he would contact
2. Relations Between the NSA and the CIA.
4. Appraisal of
Space Results.
Following the I got
together with Bob Seamans and with Bud Wheelon of the CIA and
established an Ad Hoc Subcommittee of the GMAIC Committee
under Bud Wheelon for the express purpose of working out the
details of that xploit on a timely basis, utilizing all
agencies at once. is Subcommittee included an NASA repre-
sentative, Dr. Shea, who is very knowledgeable in the space
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I wanted to sound out Mr. McCone on his feelings con-
cerning the functioning and adequacy of management within the NSA.
In fact, I think General Blake would like to get that kind of feed-back,
but I was not able to get it at the time I talked with McCone because
he had to leave very suddenly.. I think it would be useful, however,
to solicit his feelings on this matter and specifically to ask if he
has any concrete suggestions for areas of improvement. If, in
particular, he has words of approbation for General Blake, it
would be useful to have them and to pass them along to General Blake.J
It is my opinion that in most areas he has been doing a very out-
standing job. Perhaps you will be able to sound him out on this.
3. Other Problems in the NSA. V/
I have recently reviewed certain personnel matters with
General Blake. Speaking generally, the NSA has cleaned up most
of the difficulties that seemed so acute somewhat over a year ago.
We still have about four cases that are held over from that period
and as a result of our recent meeting we resolved to take positive
action on each of these within thirty days.
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field and formerly worked at STL. The Air Force furnished one
of their best people from the Foreign Technology Division. We
also had a DIA and a CIA representative, and the NSA cooperated
by furnishing representation and permitting the group to physically
work at the NSA when necessary.
The results of this were very useful. It was the first
time that a report of this kind had been put together in this manner.
If we had not done it this way, the NSA would have gradually acquired
the data and when they had gotten most of it together they would have
distributed it to a variety of agencies. Each of these would have
made its analysis and finally the GMAIC Committee would probably
have reviewed the independent analyses and ultimately come out
with some kind of report.
As it was, the people worked very closely together even
while much of the data was still coming in. They had the benefit of
consultation from people who ordinarily don't get involved in this
sort of activity, including from our office, who
is one of the country's authorities on space dynamics. The result
was a comparatively quick analysis and virtually complete agreement
among everybody concerning the principal features of that mission
and even its implications for the future.
On the other hand, the Committee which prepared the
final report for distribution has made it clear that they cannot do
this sort of thing on a continuing basis. The NSA feels the same way.
A few weeks ago Jim Webb, Dr. Seamans and Dr. Dryden visited
with Mr. McCone and expressed their willingness to set up an NASA
group that would support a continuing, all source group effort of this
kind for future use.
It is my opinion that this is a very good idea. A couple
of people each from the Air Force, the DIA, the NASA, and the NSA,
working under the aus ices of the CIA, ought to be available to
exploit the results of xploits as quickly as they occur. The
expertise and sources of information should be on hand and "matched".
I think it is almost certain that other exploits will occur from time
to time in coming years. I believe we must be in a position to
analyze them accurately and swiftly. A group, as proposed by
makes sense. I have not been able to dis s this subject with
Mr. McCone either, but perhaps you will wi h to do so.
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