RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY (IC) AND THE ACADEMIC COMMUNITY (AC)

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• Document Creation Date: December 15, 2016
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• Publication Date: June 23, 1977
• Content Type: MEMO

MEMORANDUM
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23 June 1977
ADM Stansfield Turner, USN
The DCI
SUBJ: Relationships between the Intelligence Community (IC) and the
Academic Community (AC)
This memo contains further reflections on part of the discussion at the recent
lunch in your office including Bob Bowie and the
First, I scrongly agree with all of the key points made by Bowie and
rarticularly:
Those academicians who are friendly, or at least not generically hostile,
toward the IC would be skeptical of any such statement, on the assumption
that our intelligence managers are too smart to really mean it if they say
they are voluntarily cutting themselves off from potentially important sources
that they might need in the future. And those academicians who are
hostile toward the IC would also be highly skeptical of any such statement,
because they think that all press releases from the IC are merely Madison Avenue
gimmicks with no integrity supporting them.
So, you lose either way, if you try to solve the IC-AC relationship problem
by issuing almost any kind of general statement.
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Glenn A. Olds
President,- Kent State University
Kent, OH -44242
Dear President Olds:
2 6 JUL 7977
Thank you for your letter of 11 July. I am
pleased that the students in Kent State University's
Washington Program in National Issues were able to
visit CIA and that we had an opportunity to
contribute to the program.
Programs such as yours are not only valuable
to the students, but also to the governmental units
participating in them. This is especially true of
foreign intelligence, where there is a need for
increased public understanding of the vital role
it plays in national security affairs.
We stand ready to cooperate with you on
future programs.
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Yours sincerely
STANSFIELD TllgkR
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KENT STATE
UNIVERSITY
KENT, OHIO 44242
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OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
[phone]
July 11, 1977
Admiral Turner
Director of CIA
Langley, Va. 22101
Dear Admiral Turner:
The successful completion of Kent State University's
fourth annual Washington, D.C. Program in National Issues
must be attributed to those people in the area who so gen-
erously agreed to speak with our Students and provide them
with the first hand opportunity to explore the policy-making
process. Off-campus programs can be rewarding only if the
students are able to go beyond what they would normally
experience in the classrooms. This is possible only with
the cooperation of people like you.
I have been aware for sometime from those involved in
this fine program of the important role you have played.
The members of your organization greeted the students
with exceptional courtesy. I can assure you that the visit
itself made an impression on them and lerved to dispel
many of the myths surrounding the CIA. I
presentation was lucid, informative, and most convincing.
Next year the program will enter its fifth year. Every
year the program has been able to build on its previous
experiences until now, with the continuous help of the Wash-
ington Alumni Chapter, we believe the Washington Program in
National Issues to be one of the finest of its kind in the
country. Next year's director will be Dr. Byron Lander,
Associate Professor of Political Science at Kent. The Assis-
tant Director will once again be Frank Mosko, a Ph.D. student
in the Political Science Department.
As I leave Kent State, I wanted you to know how much I
personally appreciated your participation. Your assistance
has been invaluable. I hope your schedule, time, and inter-
ests permit you to continue to work with our Alumni Associa-
tion leadership and faculty in continuing this unique program.
Sincerely,
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Glenn A. Olds
President
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Ms. Susanne Methven
President
Student Government Association
Hollins College
Roanoke, Virginia 24020
Dear Ms. Methven:
22 July 1977
A friend of mine whose daughter is entering Hollins College this
September as a freshman sent me a copy of Your June letter to new
students. I was impressed especially by 'your ambitious and worthwhile
orientation program. The fact that you ask incoming students to read
and be prepared to discuss seven books before coming to college is a
true indicator of the serious intellectual philosophy of Hollins
I was, Of course, interested that the CIA is the subject of two
of the books that you recommend. I would note, however, that both
books you single out express strong opinions against the CIA. If you
agree that the hallmark of a first-quality academic undertaking is
to ensure that all sides of an issue are aired and thoroughly
discussed, I think it would be helpful if your new students could read
something that presented the other side of the case. As in almost all
disputations, there is another side. Several books that might balance
your bibliography include: Secrets, Spies and Scholars, by
Ray S. Cline; The Night Watch, by David Atlee Phillips; or The CIA's
Secret Operations, by Harry Rositzke.
Your proposed questions also tend to infer a predisposition to
one side of the issue. I would suggest that some balance and a more
positive and constructive discussion might be encouraged with questions
like:
1. What should be the role of the CIA in the affairs
of the United States Government?
2. Is there a place for secrecy in an open society?
How best can it be achieved without incurring abuses?
3. Do intelligence collection, analysis and dissemination
contribute to a free society? What is the nature of
that contribution?
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At the same time, I recognize that at this late date it is
unlikely you could amend your list of books or your questions or
that the new students would have time to read still another book
or two. To correct this imbalance, if you think it would be
helpful for a representative of the CIA to participate in your
discussions or be available to answer questions I would be happy
to ask one of our people to contact you. I leave that up to you.
In sum, I encourage your stimulating undertaking. An open
and full debate on all aspects of American government is, in my
mind, the best way to understand the process of government and
to develop those criteria which we can use to judge the merits
of any governmental action or agency.
Yours sincer
STANSFIELD RNER
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OFFICE OF THE PRESIDFNT
[phone]
July 11, 1977
Admiral Turner
Director of CIA
Langley, Va. 22101
Dear Admiral Turner:
The successful completion of Kent State University's
fourth annual Washington, D.C. Program in National Issues
must be attributed to those people in the area who so gen-
erously agreed to speak with our students and provide them
with the first hand opportunity to explore the policy-making
process. Off-campus programs can be rewarding only if the
students are able to go beyond what they would normally
experience in the classrooms. This is possible only with
the of people like you.
'I have been aware for sometime from those involved in
this fine program of the important role you have played.
The members of your organization greeted the students
with exceptional courtesy. I can assure you that the visit
itself made an impression on them and ciprved to dispel
many of the myths surrounding the CIA. I
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presentation was lucid, informative, and most convincing.
Next year the program will enter its fifth year. Every
year the program has been able to build on its previous
experiences until now, with the continuous help of the Wash-
ington Alumni Chapter, we believe the Washington Program in
National issues to be one of the finest of its kind in the
country. Next year's director will be Dr. Byron Lander,
Associate Professor of Political Science at Kent. The Assis-
tant Director will once again be Frank Mosko, a Ph.D. student
in the Political Science Department.
As I leave Kent State, I wanted you to know how much I
personally appreciated your participation. Your assistance
has been invaluable. I hope your schedule, time, and inter-
ests permit you to continue to work with our Alumni Associa-
tion leadership and faculty in continuing this unique program.
Sincerely,
Glenn A. Olds
President
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