DCI VISIT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
• Release Decision: RIPPUB
• Original Classification: S
• Document Page Count: 20
• Document Creation Date: December 15, 2016
• Document Release Date: December 22, 2003
• Sequence Number: 4
• Publication Date: November 2, 1977
• Content Type: MF

Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00160
,be
MEMORANDUM FOR: Director of Central Intelligence
VIA : Director, National Foreign Assessmen s Center
FROM : Coordinator for Academic Relations a d
External Analytical Support
SUBJECT : DCI Visit to the University of Chicago
1. Action Requested: None at the moment, this is mainly for
information.
2. Professor Morton Kaplan of the University of Chicago, and old
friend of mine and yours, I believe, is in charge of the International
Relations portion of the program for the 1978 meeting of the American
Political Science Association. I have been in communication with him
on the subject you authorized me to explore some time ago, namely, a
possible appearance by you at that meeting. I shall have a report on
that subject later.
3. Meantime, Mort Kaplan says that if you should wish to include
the University of Chicago on your program of university visits he will be
happy to arrange it at almost any time to suit your convenience. He says
he could arrange for you to address students and faculty and, if you wish,
also arrange a luncheon or dinner meeting with "businessmen downtown."
4. I understand from
is probably exhausted for this
of Mort Kaplan's wish to be h
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
that your capacity for these visits
year. I thought you'd want to know, though,
pful.
 25X1 Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
 - Approved For Relee 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A00b800290004-2
SUBJECT: DCI Visit to the linivesity of Chicago
Distribution:
Orig. - Addressee
1 - A/DDCI
1 - D/NFAC
1 - Exec. Reg.
1 - NFAC Reg.
2 - NFAC/CAR
NFAC/CAR/
(2 November 1977)
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
 25X1 Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
Next 3 Page(s) In Document Exempt
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
 Approved For Releases 89A1 W66; 800290004-2
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
 STAT Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
 Al,rWe 3,244-77
Approved For F ase 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M001654900800290094 2
MEMORANDUM FOR: Director of Central Intelligence
VIA : Director, National Foreign Assessment Center 1(
FROM : Coordinator for Academic Relations
SUBJECT : Plans for the American Political Science-Association
Meeting-in New York, August 31 - September- 31478
1. .Action Requested: --Guidance as indicated below.
2. Background: You will recall that in July I obtained your approval
to explore a possible appearance by you at the APSA annual meeting next year.
By memo dated 2 November I informed you that I had been in touch with Professor
Morton Kaplan at the University of Chicago, who is in charge of the international
relations part of the program for that meeting, and with Evron Kirkpatrick,
Executive Secretary of the APSA, and that I would soon have a report for you on
their recommendation.
3. We considered two possibilities: a-luncheon appearance before a small,
select"group of"leading political scientists (who-for administrative reasons
would...be..invited and:asked to. pay:.for the. lunch in advance of the meeting) and
a larger meeting in the late afternoon open to all registered attendees at the
meeting. After consulting together, Kaplan and Kirkpatrick recommend the luncheon.
Evidently they are a bit uneasy that an open meeting might prove an irresistible
stimulus for demonstrative action on the part of the minority of activists in
the Association.
4. The-4uncheon would-be-sponsored&by the University`of-Chicago'.s.Center
for---S~trateegic?-andi'?fbreign Policy' Studi es . As noted above, attendance would- bex be,
by'invitation and prepayment only. Kaplan, Kirkpatrick, and-.I can put together
a list of the leaders of the profession, not necessarily all of whom would need
to be known friends of the CIA, though all responsible and sober scholars. We
ccould-,shoot for a.:sma-ll luncheon-of around, 25, (which Kirkpatrick favors.):. or a
.,rather-larger luncheon of between-40t and 50- (which: Kaplan suggested) . The latter
is about the largest group that could be handled in this format effectively.
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
 Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165"008002.'90004-2
SUBJECT: Plans for the American Political Science Association
Meeting in New York, August 31 - September 3, 1978
6. The questions, then; are:
a. Whether you consider itworth your time.to make a commitment
to..sa.small a meeting...in..New-York eight months. from now.
b. Whether you, have-.any preference as. between a maximum of 25
at-.the luncheon (which would,~.b~. small enough for some genuine give-
and-take) or-the maximum of 50 `which would reduce the interchange
to questions from the floor
c. Whether you.wish to select a day at: this earl That
decision could be delayed, of course, until abou .six wee efore
the meeting (there must be time to get out the in onis, get back
the money, and make the arrangements with the hotel -- the New York
Hilton).
7. I am1disappointe h~a't Kaplan and Kirkpatrick chose the luncheon rather
than the open eta r perhaps both, which we also discussed). But I am
compelled to bow to their more intimate knowledge of the state of the discipline.
I do recommend the luncheon appearance. We would get most'-of the-stars of the
--prof ession-and the-,wor..d:?would- get around to the remainder at the: meeting.. .But-
, whether-the! is;worth-'your time, I cannot' determine.`
5. The meeting begins on Thursday and proceeds through Sunday
morning. Kaplan says, and I agree, that the first and last days are the
worst. So the best.chaices would be.Friday.or Saturday,,l or 2-September.
25X1
Approved For Release 2004/01/212: CIA-RDP80MOO165A000800290004-2
 Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
 The D re for
Central Intelligence Agency
Approved F,.pr Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M09rt65A0008002900d
Executive Registry
-2 3 Vc d77
Dear Professor Nash,,
I am pleased to learn that you and a group of
Hollins students will be in Washington in January
as part of their studies of the US foreign policy
process. This Agency will attempt to assist you in
whatever way we can.
I have asked , our Associate
Coordinator for Academic Relations, to be in touch
with you directly to make arrangements for your
group to visit CIA and to meet with appropriate
officers.
Dr. Henry T. Nash
Professor' of Politics
Hollins College
Hollins College, Virginia
24020
1 - DCI
1 - NFAC
1 - ER
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00155A000800290004-2.
 25X1 Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
 Approved For ,elease 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80MO01W000800290004-2
Hollins College, Virginia 24020
E- LLINS COLLEGE
November 23, 1977
Adm. Stansfield M. Turner
Director, Central Intelligence Agency
Washington, D.C. 20505
rxecuti"e
!-` -_~ ~' T_ 7
On 22 July 1977 you wrote to Ms. Susanne Methven, President of the
Student Government Association at Hollins College. In this letter you
mentioned that you had learned through a friend that entering Hollins
students were invited to read several books to be discussed with
members of the faculty after they arrived at college. Two of these
books were about the CIA and both were strongly critical of the Agency
(Marchetti and Marks, THE CIA AND THE CULT OF INTELLIGENCE and Patrick
J, McGarvey, CIA: THE MYTH AND THE MADNESS). You mentioned the titles
of three books that might offer balance to our bibliography and sug-
gested that a representative.of the CIA might be made available to
participate in our discussions and answer questions. Since I am the
Professor who selected the books to be read and was responsible for the
related discussion, your letter was brought to my attention. Although
there has been a lapse of four months since you wrote to Ms. Methven,
I wanted to respond to your letter with the following request. ,
During the period from January 10 to February.11 I am offering a short
program of study concerned with the functions and operations of govern-
ment agencies in the field of foreign affairs. Students will spend three
weeks studying the activities of agencies such as the State Department,
Defense Department, and CIA. Hollins has no regular classes during the
month of January which means that the academic focus of my students will
be exclusively devoted to this project. The dual objective of this study
is 1) to identify strengths and weaknesses of these agencies as advisory
bodies to the President and 2) to examine these agencies from the stand-
point of career possibilities. Following three weeks of study and dis-
cussion we would like to come to Washington to meet officials working
in the agencies we study. Now, for my request. Could you help us to
arrange a meeting-.with one or two Agency employees with whom we could
discuss some aspect of CIA activity (particularly in the area of research
and analysis) and also the subject of career opportunities for women (all
of my students will be women) with the Agency? What I had in mind was
an informal meeting of approximately one hour. There will be 15 students
in the group and we could come to any office you suggest at any time on
January 31, February 1 or February 2.
I shall greatly appreciate any help you can provide. If there are any
questions about my plans or objectives for this project,.pledsA1eall me
collect at [phone].
Sincerely,
Henry Ta stove o elease 2004/01/21: CIA-RDP80MOO165A000800290004-2
Professor of Politics
 UNCLASSIFIED C' NFIDENT!AL SECRET 1
Approve r Release 2004/01/21: CIA-RPP80M00165A000800290004-2
ExEc JTWE SECRETARIAT
11
15
i6
17
18
19
DCI.-
Compt
DTR----' .
A/DC!/PA
AO/DC!-~
C/!PS
DCt/SS
Routing Slip
INITIAL
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
 The Director
Central Intelligence Agency
Approved For (ease 2004/01/21-~.:~CIA-RDP80M0016,5*600800 nOD4-2
22 July 1977
Ms. Susanne Methuen
President
Student Government Association
Hollins College
Roanoke, Virginia 24020
A friend of mine whose daughter is entering Hollins College this
September as a freshman sent me a copy of your June letter to new
students. I was impressed especially by your ambitious and worthwhile
orientation program. The fact that you ask incoming students to read
and be prepared to discuss seven books before coming to college is a
true indicator of the serious intellectual philosophy of Hollins
College:
I'was, df course, interested that the CIA is.the subject of two
of the books that you recommend. I would note, however, that both
books you single out express strong opinions against the CIA. If you
agree that the hallmark of a first-quality academic undertaking is
to ensure that all sides of an issue are aired and thoroughly
discussed, I think it would be helpful if your new students could read
something that presented the other side of the case. As in almost all
disputations, there is another side. Several books that might balance
your bibliography include: Secrets, Spies and Scholars, by
Ray S. Cline; The Night Watch, by David Atree Phillips; or The CIA's
Secret Operations, by Harry Rositzke.
Your proposed questions also tend to infer a predisposition to
one side of the issue. I would suggest that some balance and a more
positive and constructive discussion might be encouraged with questions
like:
1. What should be the role of the CIA in the affairs
of the United States Government?
2. Is there a place for secrecy in an open society?
How best can it be achieved without incurring abuses?
3. Do intelligence collection, analysis and dissemination
contribute to a free society? What is the nature of
that contribution?
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA RD~80~VI00165A000800290004-2
 A
Approved For.Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M001 000800290004-2
At the same time, I recognize that at this late date it is
unlikely you could amend your list of books or your questions or
that the new students 'would have time to read still another book
or two. To correct this imbalance, if you think it would be
helpful for a representative of the CIA to participate in your
discussions or be available to answer questions I would be happy
to ask one of our people to contact you.' I leave that up to you.
In sum, I encourage your stimulating undertaking. An open
and full debate on all aspects of American government is, in my
mind, the best way to understand the process of government and
to develop those criteria which we can use to judge the merits
of any governmental action or agency.
cc: President, Hollins College
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
 Appr%jed or Release 2004/01/21: CIA-RDP80MO 65A000800290004-2
TTAL SLIP DATE
TRANSP
1.
t=v
TO:
ROOM NO.
BULL
REMARKS:
I
FROM: o
?
ROOM NO.
BUILDING
EXTENSION
ICH FORM 36-8
16EB N.D. 24 t REPLACES MAY
WH BE USED.
 Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165AQQ0800290004-
9 December 1977
Mr. Gordon Borrell
Editor in Chief
Mace & Crown
Oda Dom in on University
Norfolk, Virginia 23508
Dear Mr. Borrell,
Thank you for your letter of November 29 to Admiral
Turner, which has been forwarded to this Office for response.
I am referring your requests for information on any previous
relationships between the Central Intilligence Agency and Old
Dominion University to the Agency's Freedom of Information
office. Mr. Gene Wilson, who is the Freedom of Information
Coordinator, will at no cost to you conduct a search for
relevent information and inform you of his findings as seon
as possible. You will understand that he handles numerous
such requests and that some delay is unavoidable.
As for your question regarding CIA's involvement with
college campuses, the Agency has a variety of relationships
with colleges throughout the United States. For exempke, the
Office of Personnel recruits talented students for work at this
Agency at numerous colleges. The single reference to Old
Dominion University in the 67 docueeents you cited was in this
connection. I am enclosing for your further information a letter
Admiral Turner worte to President Bok of Harvard in which he
discusses in some detail the importance the CIA attaches to its
relationships with un$$ersities and colleges, and expilins the
guidelines followed in these relationships.
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
 Approved For Rase 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165AD00800290004-2
Your second question concerning the surveillance of Iranian
students at Old Dominion University with the Iranian Secret Police
(SAVAK), can only be answered by the federal Bureau of Investigation,
which has responsibility for domestic counterintelligence activities.
As to your third question, the CIA does not find it necessary to
monitor student dissident groups on college campuses today and
does not do so.
We appreciate your interest in the Central Intelligence
Agency and hope this information is helpful to you.
Sincerely,
Enclosure
Herbert E. Hetu
Assistant for Public Affairs
to the Director of Central Intelligence
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
 Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2
 pproved FmoReWase 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00 00800290004'-2
OLD DOMINION
UNIVERSITY
Admiral Stansfield Turner, director
Central Intelligence Agency
Washington, D.C. 20505
Gordon Borrell, editor
Mace & Crown student newspaper
Old Dominion University
Norfolk, Virginia 23508
November 29, 1977
Dear Admiral Turner:
It has come to my attention that the CIA has had contact with Old Dominion University
in previous years. I cite specifically 67 documents made public recently which
revel your Agency's interest in political activity on American college campuses.
The documents were obtained via a Freedom of Information Act suit by Morton Halperin
and John Marks.
I am extremely interested in all the information and assistance you can supply
concerning the specifics of any contacts the CIA may have had with ODU in previous
years. In addition, there are three questions I would like to ask you.
First, Do you believe this involvement with college campuses was necessary, given the
tide of the times?
Secondly, Is there any evidence within your department to prove (or even suggest) the
presence of Iranian secret police (SAVAK) on the Old Dominion University campus? We
have a significant number of Iranian students at ODU who swear to this surveillance.
And the third question, Do you find it necessary to monitor student dissident groups
on college campuses today?
These are all very important questions in the minds of ODU students today, in light
of the recent release of declassified information concerning this university. Your
reply would be most appreciated and most generous.
Sincerely,
EXHUTINE K6 My RE
l
GB/db
-editor in Chief
!oxdon Borrell
Approved For Release 2004/01/21 : CIA-RDP80M00165A000800290004-2