YOUR CONVERSATION WITH SECRETARY VANCE ON 10 MARCH 1977

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• Document Creation Date: December 15, 2016
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• Publication Date: March 22, 1977
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MEMORANDUM FOR: Director of Central Intelligence
VIA : Deputy Director of Central Intelligence
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SUBJECT : Your Conversation with Secretary Vance on 10 March 1977
REFERENCE : Memorandum For The Record dated 11 March 1977 (ER-77-6697)
The following is a status report on action taken on items not
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previously discussed or reported to you through other channels.
1. DDO has been assigned action in coordination with
to define the relationship between Assistant Secretaries
of State and CIA.
the DDI and the D/DCI/NI to work with
2. Ben Evans has discussed with his counterpart in
State the dissemination to us of sensitive political
cables. Evans has been promised full support.
5. See Tab A - Prepared by the Office of the DDI.
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Attachments:
As stated
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Item 5 - DCI 10 March Conversation with the Secretary,of State
Secretary of State indicated that there are times when CIA
sends studies to Congress, some of them unclassified, with
foreign policy implications. Ocasionally these studies
resulted in questions to the State Department from the Congress.
We should work out some way to alert the State Department
in advance and/or coordinate the delivery of these documents.
Background: We provide a good many documents to Committees and individual
members as part of our substantive intelligence support to Congress.
Last year more than 500 were provided. Attached is a list of
documents transmitted from 14 January to 17 March 1977. The great
bulk of these are unclassified.
Seven Committees have access to the National Intelligence
Daily per arrangements with Messrs. Colby an c us .- several
occasions members have questioned State Department officials on
an'issue and cited a particular NID item.
Proposal: We probably do not want to coordinate all CIA publications
going to the Hill with State. This would raise questions about
our objectivity--and there continues to be some latent suspicion
in Congress that intelligence sometimes is tailored to Administration
policy objectives.
. The NID, the most likely source of questions State may find
discomfiting, is coordinated with the Department except for items
added at night. We have taken steps to exclude from the NID the
summaries of estimates addressing sensitive policy options.
We will alert State when we receive a Congressional request
for a document which has possible policy implications (such requests
are checked with the DCI) and on which the Department may be questioned.
We also can provide State with.a weekly listing of substantive
intelligence documents sent to the Hill.
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DOCUMENTS SENT TO THE HILL DURING PERIOD 14 FEBRUARY-17 MARCH 1977
Recent Developments in Soviet Hard Currency Trade - 1 copy
Ruble-Dollar Ratios for Construction - 1 copy
Soviet-East European Economic Cooperation 1 copy
The Soviet Economy: Performance in 1975 and Prospects for
1976 - 2 copies "
A Dollar Cost Comparison of Soviet and US Defense Activities,
1966-1976 - 1 copy
Communist Aid to Less Developed Countries of the Free World
1975 - 7 copies
China: Marking Time in Foreign Trade - 1 copy
Outlook for Soviet Oil and Natural Gas - 1 copy
Soviet Fisheries and Maritime Aid to Less Developed Countries - 1 copy
USSR: Problems in Financing Hard Currency Trade Deficits - 1 copy
Soviet Economic Plans for 1976-80: A first Look - 1 copy
LDC Arms Purchases: 1974-75 - 1 copy
Soviet Arms to LDC - 1 copy
PRC: International Trade Handbook 2 copies
Soviet Merchant Shipping in 1975 and Plans Through 1980 - 1 copy
Soviet Agriculture in 1976: A Preliminary View - 1 copy
USSR: Some Implications of Demographic Trends for Economic
.Policies - 3 copies
USSR: Hard Currency Trade and Payments, 1977-78 - 5 copies
Analysis of Cyclical Dynamics of Industrialized Countries - 1 copy
Estimated Soviet Spending in Rubles 70-75 - 1 copy
USSR: Northwest Atlantic Fishing Fleet Underreports Catch - 7 copies
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China. Agriculture Performance in 1975 - 1 copy
Potential Implications of World Population, Food and Climate - 1 copy
The USSR Leadership: Party Production - 1 copy
Council of Ministers for Socialists of Vietnam - 1 copy
Chiefs of State and Cabinet Members of Foreign.. Governments -- 3 copies
PRC: Timber Production and End Uses - 1 copy
Handbook of Economic Statistics - 2 copies
A Study of Climatological Research as it Pertains to Intelli-
gence Problems.- 10 copies
Soviet.Civil Defense (Secret version) - 1 copy
OGCR FACTBOOK (Unclassified version) - 4 copies
USSR: Impact of Recent Climate Change on Grain Production - 10 copies
PRC Handbook of Economic Indicators - 2 copies
Natural Gas - 1 copy
Soviet Long Range Cruise Missile Systems - 1 copy
Soviet Naval Policy and Programs and Annexes (NIE 11-15-74) - 1 copy
Soviet Forces for Intercontinental Conflict Through 1980 - 1 copy
BIOGRAPHIC'REPORTS
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MAPS AND ATLASES
Compilation of world maps (1 notebook)
Map of Brazil (1)
Indian Ocean Atlas (7)
Panama maps (10)
Western Hemisphere Atlas (14)
PRC Atlas (1)
MISCELLANEOUS
NID articles on Panama (5)
"Problems in Detecting ICBM and SLBM Accuracy" (prepared paper)
"Comparison of 1975 and 1.976 Military Budgets of 17 Coffee
Producing Countries" (prepared paper)
"OCR unclassified article on MAO"
Classified Statistics on "Soviet Technicians in Syria"
Data on "Size of Rhodesian Air Force"
Weekly Surveyor articles on "Soviet Thermal Developments" (2 copies)
Information on "Communist Military Aid Activity in Egypt and
Syria"
DOCEX List of Unclassified CIA Publications available (1 copy)
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'MISCELLANEOUS (continued)
Response-to question about "Concentration o? Soviet Forces"
(followup to House Appropriations briefing)
Bicentenial Booklet
(2)
Recruitment Booklet
(2)
Panama Canal Shipping data (10 copies)
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22 March 1977
SUBJECT Follow-up Action
REFERENCE Mr. Evans' memorandum dated 15 March 1977
Paragraph 6
I called Ito clarify the matter which the
Secretary had raised with the?DC.I. I told
that I had no record whatever of the State Department ever
raising this issue before in this form. We discussed ways
of effectively protecting each of us from being vulnerable-
to this kind of journalistic probing, and, I think, agreed
that prior coordination was impracticable and, certainly from
the point of view of the Agency, -unnecessary. Itold me
that a new position, parallel in essence to that o-.a
public affairs adviser in the geographic bureaus, has been
established in his office; currently holds this
function, and I think that contact with him will effectively
complement the coordination we already have with State
Department spokesman and others.
No further action necessary at this point.
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Andrew T. Falkiewicz
Assistant to the Director
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1. The Secretary of State requests that We have someone work
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between the Regional Assistant Secretaries of State and OR and CIA.
This document would be analogous to the one we have been negotiating'
between Chiefs or -Station and Ambassadors.
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5. Secretary of State indicated that there are times when
coordinate the delivery of these argumr ntts..._.:
in questions to the State Department from the Congress. We should
work out some way to alert the State Departmocrt in -advance and/or
CIA sends studies to Congress, some of them unclassified, with
foreign policy implications- Occasionally these studies resulted
facts the State Department claimed it was basing its policy on.'
that occasionally we had press back-grounders at the CIA and that
these often resulted in the press men coming to State Department
claiming that the facts given by the CIA were di ~`ferent than the
6. Secretary of State also said that he had been informed
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8. I informed the Secretary of State about our meeting with
the President and his indication of a strong desire to be involved
in the process of establishing intelligence requirements. We both
agreed this was a highly desirable thing. I agreed that we would
take the lead in this by developing a draft set of priorities which
we would work with both State and Defense on before taking up to
the President. The Secretary and I both agreed, however, that
once this had been worked out we probably would have to have a
meeting with SecDef, SecState, DCI, and possibly others.
9. Secretary of State reported that he had received the word
that CIA would be working under an NSC Directive to collect infor-
mation on human rights activities around the world. I informed
him that that was an erroneous interpretation of comments I had
made to press the previous morning. What I said was simply that
I wanted to be'sure we were feeding to the President any reports
of adverse reaction by free world leaders to the Administration's
stand'on human rights issues. I simply was indicating that I did
not want the President to receive only favorable information if
unfavorable information also existed. I assured the Secretary
that we were not starting some new program to collect information
about the way in which other countries are performing themselves
in the human rights field.
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