CONVERSATION WITH DR. BRZEZINSKI AND DAVID AARON, 16 NOVEMBER 1977

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• Publication Date: November 18, 1977
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SUBJECT: Conversation with Dr. Brzezinski and David Aaron,
16 November 1977
1. NIE 11-3/8. Harold Brown had talked to Brzezinski abou
this being too much of a net assessment and something that would
inevitably drive the DCI into talking about US force levels in
testimony before Congress. Brzezinski's idea is that maybe the
study should be a CIA study for the NSC rather than an NIE. I said
I didn't think that.it was truly a net assessment and that there was
no way to hide from the Congress that'we were doing an annual NI--,
especially after last year's fiasco.
a. I then described the four static and eight
quasi-dynamic charts to Brzezinski and Aaron. They
were quite enthusiastic about them. Brzezinski said
this work must continue. We will talk with Harold Brow;i
after the PRC meeting on Friday as to what form it will
take.
b. Brzezinski is interested in the further iteration
of the quasi-dynamic indicators as to what they would 1G)ok
like if each side launched on warning. I told him I
thought they would be about the same, only the curves
would each be depressed.
c. Aaron was interested in making sure the text had
a good explanation of two-on-one versus one-on-one.
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2. I delivered copies of our ma~tricef
on these and discussed them at some length.
3. Executive Order. Brown has submitted a two-page paper on
the GDIP question. I pointed out this was not fair to us; they
agreed and suggested I put in a paper on this. Please have one
prepared.
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4. PRM-22. They gave me a copy of the Decision Menorandum.
There will be a meeting at 1600 tomorrow [17 November] with Press.
Duncan, Turner and Aaron to map out the strategy for the 1700
briefing of the SSCI. The idea is to have the briefing before the
PD leaks. Press will lead off in the briefing.
5. I mentioned that I had made a speech in Chicago. Brlezirs:i
reminded me there was a directive out that all speeches shoulc be
cleared with the NSC. I can't remember whether I've seen this or
not--I think I have. Would like to look at it again and set t:p a
system so we comply.
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TANSFIELD TURNER
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