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• Publication Date: June 13, 1977
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Mr. Carl De&loom
Executive Editor
Columbus Dispatch
34 South Third Street
Columbus, Ohio 43216
Dear Mr. DeCloom:
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I have Just belatedly seen your editorial of May 14th, New
CIA Director Offers Good Image." I very much appreciate your
kind remarks about me and what we are trying to do here at CIA.
More than that, I appreciate your giving us a chance to tell it
like it is.
It is my objective to make more information about what we
do and the products of our analyses available to the media and
the public. It is my hope that all members of the Fourth Estate
and other citizens of our nation will receive that information and
data in the same positive spirit you have shown. I know the
American people will be as proud of the outstanding members of
the CIA as I are.
Yours sincerely,
STANSFIELD TURNER
A/DCI/PAO/HEH/kgt/6 June 1977
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 COLUMBUS, OHIO
DISPATCij
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liking and for. that reason he is the, mandate: He doubts the CIA can
'best thing to-happen to the Central abandon _covertaction in .carrying
Intelligence ~'Agency. ;in_a ;long... out assignments in this-' wholly
time. dead-serious wortd:LL
` KULKING in a trenchcoat. is: been. dispiaying remarxaoie can-
not-to Adm.;Stanfield-Turner's dor concerning..the CIA's'primary
commanded the U.S. Second Fleet
my,. he __was _ a '. Rhodes- Scholar;; ;;,though thus; may mea.n:_a_ whole
This new: :director- of the-:.CIA And he-`is cognizant. that every
-has all the `needed credentials. A-, CIA officer. takes an oath to defend
`graduate.of-the U.S.- Naval- Acade.- "..-.,the interests -of;this country--even
broad view;o the. CIA's'.gffective
ing that, mission. in the correct dential oversight committees have
manner:. _` . been suggested for the;CIA
Unlike: his predecessors, he is .President Dw gh$ Eisenhower
eveling with the American: people bncehad such an advisory group~.to
without jeopardizing their securi- provide the. White.: House; with.a
American people. And fiefs pursu-?.:, Both _ congressional. and presi-
What Admiral Turner is seek-: phere. It cannot.- -_-=,-
- operate in a goldfish bowl atmos-
must have'to carry out-its mandate
to catalogue.: intelligence vital to-.-. - It is '-unfortunate% that some
the security of this nation: congressmen demand that the CIA>
and served as a NATO naval chief. --`-'...The CIA has erred in'the?`past;
particularily with regard-to inves-
But his most admirable trait is a tigations within this country, con
desire to give the CIA. the image it, trary to its congressional mandate.
track in retaking the CIA: the
Even so: Admiral Turnery has reliable agency it was meant to be.
and abuse of all necessarily classi-
fied data. 'Admiral rurner"is`on! the right
classification breeds disrespect for- :-so. = = +=
'in declassifying. information:whicfi_ -.not- supervisory.-:Ttie =EIA ..,was
will be of interesttothe- public He"`established to,aid the chief-execu
correctly contends: that excessive- dive and shouId.-continue to dos
This new GIA'diFector.believes`:ed,Lhe group was.aa_ beadvisoly,
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SUBJECT: Double Dippers on the Federal payroll.
TO Congressman George Mahon, Chairman
House Appropriations Defense Subcommittee
House of Representatives
Washington D.C. 20515
Dear Mr.' Chairman:
We strongly endorse and support your move to eliminate
dual compensation or double dipping (federal pay plus federal
pension) for all newly hired federal employees after 1 Oct 77.
We are not against hiring retired'military in federal
jobs. We're against paying them double while retired in
second-career jobs on the federal payroll. Nobody else is
allowed this windfall. We know of no business, company or
corporation that retires its executives or employees and then
rehires them in full-time, permanent, second-career jobs
paying them both a full pension and salary. The stockholders,
employees, and union officials would raise hell..
Most importantly, the US Government is an inconsistent
employer in this matter. Social Security retirees are limited
to an annual $3,000 a year income ceiling. Civil Service
retirees must forfeit their entire pensions if they come back
on the federal payroll. Even welfare and food stamp recipients
are subject to limited income ceilings. Only the retired-pro-
fessional military are allowed-"unlimited" dual compensation.
Prior to 1964, a $10,000 a year (pay plus pension) ceiling
was in effect on military retiree "dual compensation".
Many are now collecting from $35,000 to around $70,000 a year
while retired on the federal payroll. By 1982, some may be
making over $106-.000--a year. This is an outrageous abuse
of taxpayer monies-. -
- The villain in this case is the Dual Compensation Act
of 1964. It was passed by a voice vote (nobody knows who voted
for it):in a Congress (the 88th) which had about 175 members
who held military'reserve commissions granted to them by the
Pentagon. In this sense, this act was illegally, if not
unconstitutionally enacted into law. It involved conflict
of interest, self-enrichment and violation of the constitutional
doctrine of separation of powers. Some who apparently
"voice" voted for it have been or are now "double-dipping"
themselves while sitting in Congress.
NATIONAL TAXPAYERS UNION, 325 Pennsylvania Avenue. S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE: Robert D. Kephart, Publisher, Inflation Survival
Letter; Murray N. Rothhard, Economist; Andrew Thomas, Jr., Scranton, Pennsylvania; EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: James Dale Davidson; ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR: William
Bonner; RESEARCH DIRECTOR: Sid Taylor; LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR: Donald Baldwin; LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVES: Roger Tresolini; Jill Greenbaum; OFFICE
MANAGER: Rita Smith; BOARD OF ADVISORS: Elizabeth Ashley, Actress; Frank Bond, Chairman, Holiday Universal, Inc.; Oakley Bramble, Lansing, Michigan; Inman
Brandon, Attorney, Atlanta, Georgia; J.E. Brandon, Columbus, Ohio; Robert B. Dresser, Providence, Rhode Island; F.R. Gardner, Winter Haven, Florida; Evan T. Garrison,
Atlantic Heights, N.J.; Henry Hazlitt, Economist; Ronald Hertz, Accountant, New York City; Hon. Louis Jenkins, Member, Louisiana Legislature; George E. Judd, Ft. Meyers,
Florida; S. Charles Lee, Ar ~~j^^ ~SU F~l~`yCF I~art~J ~Q Fpres4}{lirt~f~s~r{~&~J(,~(JJ+L+SdS~Ahg~~~frrill, Author, Washington,
D.C.: Harry Schultz, Finan a ConsuTFant; Hon. elixiTftSel-GrFe vc , LdhrT. lrli s R vlVfvv t v ri vL4U 1 J `J
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This act has cost about $6 billion to date. It is
adding about $1 billion a year to military retirement fund
outlays. Significantly, the military retirement fund now
has an actuarial deficit or unfunded liability around
$200 billion. To add "double dipping" to this mountain of
red ink is an insult to millions of unemployed, overtaxed,
un-retired, fixed-income, or poverty level Americans. It
is a clear example of Pentagon Fat. As President Carter
has said "I think it ought to be eliminated". We fully
,agree and commend the President for his position. However,
we feel that this matter doesn't need to be studied any
more. The Defense Manpower Commission of 1973 spent 2 years
and several million dollars looking at this problem.
Needless to say, nothing happened. The DMC_was loaded down
with "double dippers". Now we have another Pentagon committee
(the Commission on Military Compensation) about to study this
matter. This is like asking the foxes to redesign the
chicken coop. By the time they get done studying this
problem again, about $2 billion of taxpayers' money will go
down the "double dipper" drain. This issue involves a clear
cut example of federal pension fund misspending. It's time
for Congress to turn off the fiscal spigot. In 1977 alone, the
150,000 double dippers now on the federal payroll will get two
pension increases (CFI) plus one pay increase. And this is on
top of their dual compensation income!
It's time we faced fiscal reality. We now have about
68 federal pension or retirement systems (excluding Social
Security) with a combined actuarial deficit or unfunded
liability of over $550 billion. This is in addition to our
growing national debt of $700 billion. When the Social
Security System is added with a $4.1 trillion actuarial
deficit, we are faced with a $4.65 trillion dollar pyramid-
of unfunded federal pension. liabilities. Most of this
pyramid is "double indexed" so as to escalate in costs and
deficits each year through automatic annual federal pay and
pension increases.. To allow "double dipping" on top of all
this is the final insult to the already overburdened American
taxpayer.
We are now reaching a point where pension outlays are
starting to consume the operating budgets of some federal
agencies. This is particularly true in the Dept. of Defense
with a $9 billion a year military pension outlay. And
because it is indexed, this outlay is increasing by about
$1 billion each year. Who are we kidding?. There are not
enough taxpayers left in the United States or a large enough
tax base to ever pay off or amortize our federal pension
liabilities. In actuarial terms, the United States Government
is now bankrupt.
Double dipping is only one facet of this problem,
but it is a good place to start. We are now paying "double
taxes" to support "double dippers" on the federal payroll.
In some cases, through revenue sharing money, we are even'
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in plush, well-paid, lifetime federal jobs. I also feel
that the federal employee labor unions (AFGE, NFFE, and the
Postal Unions) have been asleep on this issue. When you
dump 150,000 retired military "double dippers" into
second-career federal jobs, it has a direct impact upon the
job opportunities, promotions, morale and career advancement
of-thousands of first-career, Civil Service employees, inclu-
ding young un-retired veterans. Is it possible that AFGE,
for example, is so preoccupied with "unionizing" the military
that it is neglecting the long term career interests of its
own civilian dues-paying members?
supporting double dippers on some State payrolls. As one
of 29 million un-retired veterans, I feel that the American
Legion and the VFW, for example, should support the elimination
of dual compensation on the federal payroll. Why should
un-retired veterans pay extra taxes to support retired veterans
Federal employee labor unions should strongly support
elimination of the Dual :Compensation Act of 1964. It involves
special pay/pension privileges (not allowed Civil Service or
Social Security retirees), plus abusive spending of federal
pension funds, and it permits raiding the Civil Service
Retirement Fund by military retirees. This act also generates
and subsidizes military "Buddy System" hiring and promotion
abuses. Some, federal agencies-are now loaded down with
"clusters" of double dippers - sometimes including their
relatives. Loopholes in the American Civil Service System
(Unassembled Exams, back-door recruiting, rigged job de-
scriptions. and classification gobbledygook) are creating a
new bureaucratic "spoils system". With a good ghost-writer,
a gorilla could qualify today. as a GS-12 "Tree Climbing
Specialist". It's time that first-career federal employees
got into this fight too. This act is making a farce of equal
employment opportunity, merit promotion and competitive
selection. Their careers, promotions and even job retention
may soon be at stake.
With 177 "double-dipping" Generals or Admirals now on
the federal payroll, we-also are concerned by the "unwarranted
influence" of professional military retirees at policy making
levels throughout dozens of key federal agencies.
In summary,- as, we consider this a key fiscal issue, the
NTU respectfully requests that you as Chairman provide us with
a tabulation of any roll-call vote, in committee, should
there be one. We again commend you and your committee for a
step towards fiscal sanity. Keep up the good work. We
taxpayers of America support and endorse your move to at
least eliminate "future dippers" from the federal payroll.
10 June 1977
Taxfully,
SID TAYLOR
Research Director
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